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በ3 ሺ ዘመን የኢትዮጵያ ታሪክ ዳግማዊ አጼ ምኒልክን የሚያክል ንጉስም መሪም ኖሮዋት አያውቅም

Post by Horus » 26 Jun 2020, 01:01

ይህ የኢንተርኔት ዘመን ስለሆነ ማንኛውም ደንቆሮ፣ መሃይምና እረኛ ያሻውን በሚዲያ ያውጃል ። ግን ሃቅን ማንም ሊሽረው አይችልም። ንጉስ ምኒልክ ገና በአፍሪካ ታሪኩ ይዘከራል ። ምኒልክ ማለት አዋቂ መሪ ወይም ሰለሞን ማለት ነው ። ጥበበኛ ብልህ አዋቂ መሪ ማለት ነው ።


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Post by Horus » 26 Jun 2020, 01:11

አበሻ እነደ ቀርው ጥቁር አፍሪካዊ እንደ እቃ ተሽጦ እንደ በግ ተነድቶ ያውሮፓና ያሜሪካ ጥጥ ለቃሚ ከመሆን የዳነው ምኒልክ የሚባል ሰው ስለ ተወለደ ነው።


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Post by yaballo » 26 Jun 2020, 03:39

Our Ethio-Sumerian/Assyrian; :shock:

Still pushing the silly '3000 year-old history of Ethiopia'? ..

Mi amor, do you know that dozens of tribes in what is today southern, south-western & eastern Ethiopia were NOT even part of Menelik2's empire when his mostly Oromo-slave/gebbar soldiers & Amhara peasants soldiers were forced to march towards Adwa & were sacrificed in the so called Battle of Adwa? Yes - that was the case. :idea:

Of course, the famous battle of Adwa was NOT fought to defend the freedom of the mostly enslaved population [duh!] but to defend/protect the system that enslaved most of the population in the Abyssinian empire from foreign imperialist/colonialist competitors.

For example, my homeland of Borana was incorporated into the 'Ethiopian empire of permanent miseries' a full 5 years after the battle of Adwa [1896] .. in 1899-900 A.D; Konso & Omo Valley tribes in 1900 A.D.

Same was the case for Konso, the tribes of the Omo Valley [Gamo-Gofa], Southern regions of the former province of Kaffa, Gambella [1897-98], Afar 1909; Benishagule & Shanqila regions west of the Amhara+Tigre highalnds around 1899-1900, etc. Some Somali clans/regions in Oagaden were forced into the same empire even a lot later than the Borana & southern Ethiopian tribes in 1897-98; 1914 & 1942 [Haud region].





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Post by Selam/ » 26 Jun 2020, 07:03

Yaballo - My loyal Arab puppy,
Hmmm...... How did that tiny empire of the sedentary Menilik conquered the vast wild territories of the east, west and south? Were those people not nomads and herders like the Mongols back then? Or, do you think this ‘illiterate and backward’ Menilik was in fact a super human being? How did he manage to expand his territory on a donkey back? You’re a knob-head baboon, to say the least.

yaballo wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 03:39
Our Ethio-Sumerian/Assyrian; :shock:

Still pushing the silly '3000 year-old history of Ethiopia'? ..

Mi amor, do you know that dozens of tribes in what is today southern, south-western & eastern Ethiopia were NOT even part of Menelik2's empire when his mostly Oromo-slave/gebbar soldiers & Amhara peasants soldiers were forced to march towards Adwa & were sacrificed in the so called Battle of Adwa? Yes - that was the case. :idea:

Of course, the famous battle of Adwa was NOT fought to defend the freedom of the mostly enslaved population [duh!] but to defend/protect the system that enslaved most of the population in the Abyssinian empire from foreign imperialist/colonialist competitors.

For example, my homeland of Borana was incorporated into the 'Ethiopian empire of permanent miseries' a full 5 years after the battle of Adwa [1896] .. in 1899-900 A.D; Konso & Omo Valley tribes in 1900 A.D.

Same was the case for Konso, the tribes of the Omo Valley [Gamo-Gofa], Southern regions of the former province of Kaffa, Gambella [1897-98], Afar 1909; Benishagule & Shanqila regions west of the Amhara+Tigre highalnds around 1899-1900, etc. Some Somali clans/regions in Oagaden were forced into the same empire even a lot later than the Borana & southern Ethiopian tribes in 1897-98; 1914 & 1942 [Haud region].





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Post by yaballo » 26 Jun 2020, 07:28

Selam - our other member of the FUGA crew on ER;

Don't forget that a substantial percentage of Menelik2's slave/gebbar-soldiers were cattle-herding Gallas most of whom had been conquered by other Galla armies as part of a 'curse' known as inter-clan warfare that devastated cattle/camel-herding communities such as Gallas, Somalis, Afars, Nilotic tribes of Gambella+South Sudan, etc. Heard of 'Ras Goobana Daacee'? [Gobana Dache] who was the commander-in-chief of Menelik2's conquering armies? .. Hope so. He was a Galla cattle herder.


photo: Ras Gobana Dache ...




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Post by Selam/ » 26 Jun 2020, 13:18

Yaballo the Arab puppy - Your mirage of fallacy and fiction amuses me more than it confuses me because you’re one of the clueless woyane knobheads whom I knew about even before you were conceived. If the current map of Ethiopia is a result of Oromos fighting against each other, then why in the hell do you bring Menilik into the mix and call him expansionist? You should rather blame the Oromos and pity their unawakenedness or whatever was going on through their minds. I bet, Menilik didn’t have the capacity or technology to put a leash or webcam on any of them. They must have fought for a holy, and good and justifiable reason. If the King managed to put so many Oromos on his side that amassed the entire East, south, and west regions then he must have been a charismatic genius of a superior order. No black leader has ever achieved such a victory in the history of Ethiopian or Africa as a matter of fact. Peekaboo, knucklehead Woyane, drooling over it?
yaballo wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 07:28
Selam - our other member of the FUGA crew on ER;

Don't forget that a substantial percentage of Menelik2's slave/gebbar-soldiers were cattle-herding Gallas most of whom had been conquered by other Galla armies as part of a 'curse' known as inter-clan warfare that devastated cattle/camel-herding communities such as Gallas, Somalis, Afars, Nilotic tribes of Gambella+South Sudan, etc. Heard of 'Ras Goobana Daacee'? [Gobana Dache] who was the commander-in-chief of Menelik2's conquering armies? .. Hope so. He was a Galla cattle herder.


photo: Ras Gobana Dache ...




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Post by sun » 26 Jun 2020, 15:56

Horus wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 01:11
አበሻ እነደ ቀርው ጥቁር አፍሪካዊ እንደ እቃ ተሽጦ እንደ በግ ተነድቶ ያውሮፓና ያሜሪካ ጥጥ ለቃሚ ከመሆን የዳነው ምኒልክ የሚባል ሰው ስለ ተወለደ ነው።

Horus, :P

Liar... liar... liar
whose dirty tattered pants are on hot fire
While his pathological liar tongue is loooonger than the rusty barbed wire!
:lol: :lol:

You always talk bullsh!t high sounding phrase mongerin emepty talks but can never ever support your propagnada claims using sources or credible evidences which we are forced to do just to teach the chest pumping baboon, one or two bitter sweet lessons.

Otherwise slavery was endemic and very much loved trading practice and major economic sources at the courts of the Ethiopian kings by the Ethiopian kings themselves.
:mrgreen:

Slavery in Ethiopia existed for centuries, going as far back as 1495 B.C. There are also sources indicating the export of slaves from the Aksumite Kingdom (100–940 AD). The practice formed an integral part of Ethiopian society, from its earliest days and well in to the 20th century so much so even Ethiopian rulers, including those who did not approve of the institution, such as Emperor Menelik II (1889-1913) and Emperor Haile Selassie (Ethiopia’s regent, 1916-1930 and Emperor of Ethiopia, 1930-1974), are said to have owned slaves by the thousands (Pankhurst, 1968, p. 75.) :oops: :oops:

In Ethiopia, slavery was legal and widespread; slave raiding was endemic in some areas, and slave trading was a way of life.
( Hinks, edited by Peter (2006). John McKivigan; R. Owen Williams (eds.). Encyclopedia of antislavery and abolition : Greenwood milestones in African American history. Westport, Conn.: Greenwood Press. p. 246. ISBN 0313331421.)

The largest slavery-driven polity in the Horn of Africa before the nineteenth century was the Ethiopian Empire. Though its intercontinental slave trade was substantial, the Ethiopian Highlands were the largest consumer of slaves in the region.

Slavery was fundamental to the social, political and economic order of medieval Ethiopia. Racism in the territory was traditionally mainly directed at ethnic minorities, as well as other individuals from the south of the country. Collectively, these groups are locally known as barya, derogatory terms originally denoting slave descent, irrespective of the individual's family history.

According to Henry Salt, the Abyssinian highlanders also actively hunted the Shanqella during the 19th century. Following the abolition of the slave trade in the 1940s, the freed Shanqella and barya were typically employed as unskilled labour.
(Congrès international des sciences anthropologiques et ethnologiques, Pierre Champion (1963). VIe [i.e. Sixième] Congrès international des sciences anthropologiques et ethnologiques, Paris, 30 juillet-6 août 1960: Ethnologie. 2 v. Musée de l'homme. p. 589.)


Traditionally, racism against perceived barya transcended class and remained in effect regardless of social position or parentage. (Newsweek, Volume 85, Issues 1-8. Newsweek. 1975. p. 13.)

One of the first written laws to regulate slavery in the Ethiopian region was The Fetha Nagast (The Law of the Kings), a traditional law for Ethiopian Orthodox Christians. Under this law, one category of people that could legally be enslaved was prisoners of war. It declared.

Emperor Tewodros II (1855-1869) and Emperor Yohannes IV ( 1872-1889) both attempted to end slavery in 1854 and 1884 respectively.
The abolition of slavery as far as a modern written constitution became a high priority for the Haile Selassie government in 1942. The abolishment of slavery was put into law during the Italian occupation period with the issue of two laws in October 1935 and April 1936.

Emperor Haile Selassie (Teferi Mekonnen Guddisa Nagawo) put this in a written constitution in 1942 After the Italians were expelled Ethiopia officially abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, by making it a law on 26 August 1942. BINGO! :P

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Post by Horus » 26 Jun 2020, 17:56

ዳግማዊ አጼ ምኒልክ፣ ባለ ልሂቀ አይምሮ ፣ ጠቢብ መሪ የኢትዮጵያዊ ሰው ሁሉ ነጻዊነት ሳይኮሎጂ አባት፣ የጥቁር ዘር ሁሉ ነጻዊነት ምልክት !!! :!: :!: :!:

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Post by yaballo » 26 Jun 2020, 20:18

Fugaw Selam;

1) - remember that the question you asked was meant to disprove a curious & well-documented social phenomenon where tribes that specialised in cattle-hearding type of agriculture or whose diets tended to be rich in animal protein had, as a rule, managed to beat the crap out of 'cabbage-eating fuga tribes' [hutus]. Hence, the fact that Menelik2's Shoan regime managed to harness Oromo warriors of Shoa to enhance his territorial expansion does not contradict this claim or theory. Does it? No, it does not! Good fuga boy!.

2) - the fact that Menelik2 managed to collaborate with some clans of the Oromo to conquer other clans & non-Oromo tribes has its own reasons or rationales. One of this was his expansionist agenda was not necessarily in opposition to what some Oromo clans had themselves been doing in a bid to find new territories on which to heard their cattle. Hence, the two parties [Menelik2 & Oromos of say Gobana Dache's clan] entered into what could be described as "an alliance of convenience" to defeat other clans of the Oromo or non-Oromo tribes.

3) - of course, I forgot to mention the factor of 'maxim gun' in highlighting another important factor that helped Menelik2's expansionist strategy. 'Maxim gun' was a type of gun that allowed the British to defeat the formidable Zulu warriors of South Africa & other tough tribal warriors in what is today Zimbabwe/Zambia, after a series of humiliating defeat sustained by the British army at the hands of the Zulu warriors armed with nothing more than spears & wooden clubs.

Similarly, Menelik2 had a structure that vaguely resembled an organised state+bureacracy [Shoan Kingdom] - unlike the disroganised & warring semi-nomadic Oromo clans - allowed him to engage envoys of ferenji countries & gun sellers to purchase firearms used in his wars. Of course, almost all the guns his regime purchased were paid-for by exporting hundreds-of-thousands of slaves that included the famous category of "Gurage Slaves" [we will discuss this some other time]. Hence, guns enhanced Menelik2's ability to succeed where the disorganised & warring Oromos failed.

To sum it up:

a) - Meneik2's better organised state bureacracy,

b) - Meneik2's massive & organised export trade in slaves that allowed the purchase of lots of guns &,

c) - Meneik2's ability to exploit the inter-clan warfare among the Oromos were some of the main factors that allowed Menelik2 to triumph over his habesha competitors for power, over the Oromos & other tribes. Hence, the credit goes to Menelik2 & his war bureaucracy. :idea:

And, there is a lesson in all that for today's Oromos & other tribes who are still not well-organised &, more importantly, remain COMPLETELY DISARMED!! :evil: . OK?

Bye my fugicho .. baricho .. gudeelicho brother.


photo: the famous 'maxim gun' - rather a machine gun - that helped the British defeat the formidable Zulu warriors of South Africa in the Zulu vs British wars.


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Post by Selam/ » 26 Jun 2020, 23:12

Appalling how stupidity has become a virtue in the Arab puppy land. Knob-head, you’re getting dumb and dumber by the hour. Your bulletins contradict each other as usual but you proved my point one or the other way. I will pick two words out of your rambling and sum up your ignorance in plain English: harnessing and collaborating.

The first one proves that Menilik was indeed a mobilizing and war genius of the highest order. His adaptive leadership and organizational skills were unparalleled and they propelled him to victory over outside invaders and local bushmen. Without that skill, your’maximum gun’ or ‘supreme gun’ is a piece of crap just like you are.

Here is the kicker though that shows your slapstick and sentimental infantilism. You should have used the word ‘collaborating’ to the Oromo warriors, who per your allegation voluntarily subdued themselves to the King and his authority. Because it’s the host body that collaborates with the outsider, not the other way round. And collaborating with one’s enemy is a punishable crime. Woyane snake, do you want to prosecute Balcha Safo, Gobana Daaccii? Those Ethiopian giants wouldn’t have even allowed you to l!ck the hooves of their horses.

You have no other choice than glorifying Meniliki’s commanding excellence and achievements or condemning the weaknesses of the Oromo collaborators. You can’t have it both ways. KIFU!
yaballo wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 20:18
Fugaw Selam;

1) - remember that the question you asked was meant to disprove a curious & well-documented social phenomenon where tribes that specialised in cattle-hearding type of agriculture or whose diets tended to be rich in animal protein had, as a rule, managed to beat the crap out of 'cabbage-eating fuga tribes' [hutus]. Hence, the fact that Menelik2's Shoan regime managed to harness Oromo warriors of Shoa to enhance his territorial expansion does not contradict this claim or theory. Does it? No, it does not! Good fuga boy!.

2) - the fact that Menelik2 managed to collaborate with some clans of the Oromo to conquer other clans & non-Oromo tribes has its own reasons or rationales. One of this was his expansionist agenda was not necessarily in opposition to what some Oromo clans had themselves been doing in a bid to find new territories on which to heard their cattle. Hence, the two parties [Menelik2 & Oromos of say Gobana Dache's clan] entered into what could be described as "an alliance of convenience" to defeat other clans of the Oromo or non-Oromo tribes.

3) - of course, I forgot to mention the factor of 'maxim gun' in highlighting another important factor that helped Menelik2's expansionist strategy. 'Maxim gun' was a type of gun that allowed the British to defeat the formidable Zulu warriors of South Africa & other tough tribal warriors in what is today Zimbabwe/Zambia, after a series of humiliating defeat sustained by the British army at the hands of the Zulu warriors armed with nothing more than spears & wooden clubs.

Similarly, Menelik2 had a structure that vaguely resembled an organised state+bureacracy [Shoan Kingdom] - unlike the disroganised & warring semi-nomadic Oromo clans - allowed him to engage envoys of ferenji countries & gun sellers to purchase firearms used in his wars. Of course, almost all the guns his regime purchased were paid-for by exporting hundreds-of-thousands of slaves that included the famous category of "Gurage Slaves" [we will discuss this some other time]. Hence, guns enhanced Menelik2's ability to succeed where the disorganised & warring Oromos failed.

To sum it up:

a) - Meneik2's better organised state bureacracy,

b) - Meneik2's massive & organised export trade in slaves that allowed the purchase of lots of guns &,

c) - Meneik2's ability to exploit the inter-clan warfare among the Oromos were some of the main factors that allowed Menelik2 to triumph over his habesha competitors for power, over the Oromos & other tribes. Hence, the credit goes to Menelik2 & his war bureaucracy. :idea:

And, there is a lesson in all that for today's Oromos & other tribes who are still not well-organised &, more importantly, remain COMPLETELY DISARMED!! :evil: . OK?

Bye my fugicho .. baricho .. gudeelicho brother.


photo: the famous 'maxim gun' - rather a machine gun - that helped the British defeat the formidable Zulu warriors of South Africa in the Zulu vs British wars.


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Post by EPRDF » 26 Jun 2020, 23:21

Ethiopian nation is divided. Part of the nation worshiping Menilik and the rest of Negestat, part of the nation demonize Menilik and part of the nation doesn't give a hoot for what had happened and century ago.

Ethiopian diverse communities have a different version of past histories of their own which is a completely separate one from another.

In recent days, for example, in the cities of southern states of America, we have been witnessing the removal of some century-old sculptures because of some awful historical background of the events back then, and we see a consensus among the overwhelming majority. We see no Problem but a little resistance comes from old-timers.

Now what I don't understand in our case is, in a country of ours where seventy percent of its population is under the age of thirty, why those who cherish Menilik and his bravery celebrate Menilik's achievement and his statue in their hometown and leave the rest alone at least until we have one agreeable a common version of history that we all be proud of, because we lack a common history that can bring us closer at the moment. Let's admit this simple fact for god sake.

If Wajo Horus loves emeye Menilik, that is fine he can commemorate and celebrate Emeye Menilik's glory in WolQixe, but he has no right to go all the way to Bale Robe and to tell Obbo Yaballo to celebrate Emiye with him. Cmon guys we are living in the 21st century eko!

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Post by Selam/ » 26 Jun 2020, 23:34

You got it all wrong. Buda Yaballo isn’t in Bale Robe. He is in front of a monitor in Mekelle.
EPRDF wrote:
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Ethiopian nation is divided. Part of the nation worshiping Menilik and the rest of Negestat, part of the nation demonize Menilik and part of the nation doesn't give a hoot for what had happened and century ago.

Ethiopian diverse communities have a different version of past histories of their own which is a completely separate one from another.

In recent days, for example, in the cities of southern states of America, we have been witnessing the removal of some century-old sculptures because of some awful historical background of the events back then, and we see a consensus among the overwhelming majority. We see no Problem but a little resistance comes from old-timers.

Now what I don't understand in our case is, in a country of ours where seventy percent of its population is under the age of thirty, why those who cherish Menilik and his bravery celebrate Menilik's achievement and his statue in their hometown and leave the rest alone at least until we have one agreeable a common version of history that we all be proud of, because we lack a common history that can bring us closer at the moment. Let's admit this simple fact for god sake.

If Wajo Horus loves emeye Menilik, that is fine he can commemorate and celebrate Emeye Menilik's glory in WolQixe, but he has no right to go all the way to Bale Robe and to tell Obbo Yaballo to celebrate Emiye with him. Cmon guys we are living in the 21st century eko!

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Post by EPRDF » 26 Jun 2020, 23:47

Selam/ wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 23:34
You got it all wrong. Buda Yaballo isn’t in Bale Robe. He is in front of a monitor in Mekelle.
![/i]
NO, you got it wrong wendime/ehte Selam,

Obbo Yaballo is a proud Oromo from Bale region. We cannot label everyone who disagrees with what we believe in a Woyane. That is wrong. I have seen in many threads when you have been labeled as Woyane, Ascari, and so on. But I didn't buy it because I know you are not, simple.

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Post by yaballo » 27 Jun 2020, 01:08

Selam;

I thought that I highlighted how the bureaucracy of Menelk2 - no doubt manned by a bunch of bright Oromos 8) unlike the spastic fungas :shock: - managed to harness & exploit the advantages and disadvantages [inter-clan warfare] that the cattle-herding Oromos had in the expansionist agenda of the Shoan state of King Menelik.

Now, If you - like most of your fuga relatives brought-up on protein-deficient cabbage+qocho - can't or won't understand any of that; then, there is no much we can do for you. OK? SORRY. :oops:

Bye my fugicho+gudelicho+baaricho brother.



Obbo EPRDF;

Baara fayyaa, obboleessa keena/keenya?

WOW - that is a very apt assessment of the never-ending & most depressing dilemma faced by Ethiopians who are divided into the two major opposing camps you highlighted. Well done & galatoomi!

Yes, those who admire Menelik2 & fancy to elevate him to the status of a black saint [DINQEM!], should be free to prostrate at his alter 24/7. But, they should allow others to have a different view [not that doing so is part of their DNA]. Anyway, it is very exhausting to try to reason with these SPASTIC FUNGA lots.

Oh, well .. we tried. We might as well leave them by reminding one of their own adage: mikerew .. mikerew .. imbii kaalee mekera yimkerew/ምከረው ምከረው፣ እምቢ ካለ መከራ ይምከረው።

Let me invite you to an old & popular Oromo song by Abdullahi Arusi [of raadonii moqdishoo's fame].

Nagaatti obboleessa keena.


song: ABDULLAHI ARUSI Laali BEST of Mid of 1970s.




EPRDF wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 23:21
Ethiopian nation is divided. Part of the nation worshiping Menilik and the rest of Negestat, part of the nation demonize Menilik and part of the nation doesn't give a hoot for what had happened and century ago.

Ethiopian diverse communities have a different version of past histories of their own which is a completely separate one from another.

In recent days, for example, in the cities of southern states of America, we have been witnessing the removal of some century-old sculptures because of some awful historical background of the events back then, and we see a consensus among the overwhelming majority. We see no Problem but a little resistance comes from old-timers.

Now what I don't understand in our case is, in a country of ours where seventy percent of its population is under the age of thirty, why those who cherish Menilik and his bravery celebrate Menilik's achievement and his statue in their hometown and leave the rest alone at least until we have one agreeable a common version of history that we all be proud of, because we lack a common history that can bring us closer at the moment. Let's admit this simple fact for god sake.

If Wajo Horus loves emeye Menilik, that is fine he can commemorate and celebrate Emeye Menilik's glory in WolQixe, but he has no right to go all the way to Bale Robe and to tell Obbo Yaballo to celebrate Emiye with him. Cmon guys we are living in the 21st century eko!

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Post by Horus » 27 Jun 2020, 01:19

yabbbblllooo,

ዝንጀሮ ሰማይን ለመንካት ለሊቱን ሁሉ እንጣጥ ስትል ታድራለች ይባላል ። ያ ዕበት አፍህ ከርፍቶ ትል እስኪያበቅል ብትለፋደድ ከሆረስ እንካ ስላንቲያ አትቸርም ። ከኩዮችህ ጋር ተግማማ :oops: :oops: :oops:


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Post by Selam/ » 27 Jun 2020, 09:08

Knob-head Arab puppy - You slyly dropped the word collaborating. Good boy, you’re learning slowly:

Let’s break up your new theory:
- Bright Oromos led by King Menilik: proves the latter was super bright.
- Expansionist agenda of cattle herding Oromos: it is then called inter-ethnic reunification.
Peekaboo! :lol: :lol: :lol:

yaballo wrote:
27 Jun 2020, 01:08
Selam;

I thought that I highlighted how the bureaucracy of Menelk2 - no doubt manned by a bunch of bright Oromos 8) unlike the spastic fungas :shock: - managed to harness & exploit the advantages and disadvantages [inter-clan warfare] that the cattle-herding Oromos had in the expansionist agenda of the Shoan state of King Menelik.

Now, If you - like most of your fuga relatives brought-up on protein-deficient cabbage+qocho - can't or won't understand any of that; then, there is no much we can do for you. OK? SORRY. :oops:

Bye my fugicho+gudelicho+baaricho brother.



Obbo EPRDF;

Baara fayyaa, obboleessa keena/keenya?

WOW - that is a very apt assessment of the never-ending & most depressing dilemma faced by Ethiopians who are divided into the two major opposing camps you highlighted. Well done & galatoomi!

Yes, those who admire Menelik2 & fancy to elevate him to the status of a black saint [DINQEM!], should be free to prostrate at his alter 24/7. But, they should allow others to have a different view [not that doing so is part of their DNA]. Anyway, it is very exhausting to try to reason with these SPASTIC FUNGA lots.

Oh, well .. we tried. We might as well leave them by reminding one of their own adage: mikerew .. mikerew .. imbii kaalee mekera yimkerew/ምከረው ምከረው፣ እምቢ ካለ መከራ ይምከረው።

Let me invite you to an old & popular Oromo song by Abdullahi Arusi [of raadonii moqdishoo's fame].

Nagaatti obboleessa keena.


song: ABDULLAHI ARUSI Laali BEST of Mid of 1970s.




EPRDF wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 23:21
Ethiopian nation is divided. Part of the nation worshiping Menilik and the rest of Negestat, part of the nation demonize Menilik and part of the nation doesn't give a hoot for what had happened and century ago.

Ethiopian diverse communities have a different version of past histories of their own which is a completely separate one from another.

In recent days, for example, in the cities of southern states of America, we have been witnessing the removal of some century-old sculptures because of some awful historical background of the events back then, and we see a consensus among the overwhelming majority. We see no Problem but a little resistance comes from old-timers.

Now what I don't understand in our case is, in a country of ours where seventy percent of its population is under the age of thirty, why those who cherish Menilik and his bravery celebrate Menilik's achievement and his statue in their hometown and leave the rest alone at least until we have one agreeable a common version of history that we all be proud of, because we lack a common history that can bring us closer at the moment. Let's admit this simple fact for god sake.

If Wajo Horus loves emeye Menilik, that is fine he can commemorate and celebrate Emeye Menilik's glory in WolQixe, but he has no right to go all the way to Bale Robe and to tell Obbo Yaballo to celebrate Emiye with him. Cmon guys we are living in the 21st century eko!

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Post by Selam/ » 27 Jun 2020, 09:18

Entitled to your opinion. To me, he is a hardcore Woyane, cheers!
EPRDF wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 23:47
Selam/ wrote:
26 Jun 2020, 23:34
You got it all wrong. Buda Yaballo isn’t in Bale Robe. He is in front of a monitor in Mekelle.
![/i]
NO, you got it wrong wendime/ehte Selam,

Obbo Yaballo is a proud Oromo from Bale region. We cannot label everyone who disagrees with what we believe in a Woyane. That is wrong. I have seen in many threads when you have been labeled as Woyane, Ascari, and so on. But I didn't buy it because I know you are not, simple.

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Post by Horus » 29 Jun 2020, 18:31

የክሪስቲያን ብህሌ ስለሆነ አጫሉን ነፍስ ይማር እላለሁ ። ግን ምኒልክን አትንኩት ።

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