Mereja Forum

[Lakeshore]

True ormos are the pillar of our freedom. For example, Abdisa Aga, General Mulugeta Bulti,Degach Gobena Dachew, and many others are true Ethiopians who are respected by all Ethiopians and the enemy too.
Here some peoples listed below as an example, who are uneducated and blinded by hate and tribalism have been instigating hate and war fro the past 50 years without any success destroying many young Oromo Ethiopian life. while they hide in Germany , Eritrea, Kenya , Madagascar, and so on. to mention some of them. Gelasa delbu, Dowd ibsa, Merrara gudina ( real merara), Abadula gemeda andy the new one like Jawar Mohamed who works for a penny for Egypt and Qatar, Bekele geriba even if the agames whip him so bad he still didn't get it and work for them again and many others.

If you really think about it. something must be wrong and should be changed. I mean after 50 years of sacrifices still, you are following the same ppls adding some more and live a fantasy life. Your leaders that I mention above use Oromo politics as a way of life, job. Now they are old and they spent most of their life following wrong idea without success and they are disappointed ppls. they never had a stable life in Germany and other countries. Now they want to leave some legacy behind to their families and get something out of their lost life.
Therefore, they will do anything and align themselves with any group to clinch to power. once that happened they are the ones who will jail you again. This is the same drama happening in mekele as you can witness.

My advice to the young Oromo people is to use the current situation for leverage and negotiate for wider self-administration if you feel you are marginalized.You have to see the reality your self you don't need a fake leader or I call them an interpreter to tell you who you are and tell a false narrative about your ancestor's life of the past 200 years which is self-serving and false. you should move on and build a better place for you and your children. However there are some groups of hooligans wielding a machete and raping innocent people are the product of helplessness and lack hope and work. If you show them real path to prosperity and equality they will be a good productive society. it has been proven time and time again.
They can be reformed.in order to do that it is necessary to understand the hidden agenda of Jawar, Bekele griba, Abdula and ppls like that.
you can see how quickly they change their stance according to the political heat. They are there to grab to power not to help the oromo ppls.

Actually, they despise the Oromo ppl. and undermine their intelligence that is why they present themselves to speak for the oromo ppls without any representation, and on top of that, they live in Addis Ababa far from their ppls. Since they can't live with Oromo ppls in Oromia they came up with the stupid idea of Addis Ababa is Oromia.
because they don't want to move to oromia they are comfortable here therefore they try to bring Oromia to them. hypocrisy at its best.
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[banebris2013]

True ormos are the pillar of our freedom. For example, Abdisa Aga, General Mulugeta Bulti,Degach Gobena Dachew, and many others are true Ethiopians who are respected by all Ethiopians and the enemy too.
Here some peoples listed below as an example, who are uneducated and blinded by hate and tribalism have been instigating hate and war fro the past 50 years without any success destroying many young Oromo Ethiopian life. while they hide in Germany , Eritrea, Kenya , Madagascar, and so on. to mention some of them. Gelasa delbu, Dowd ibsa, Merrara gudina ( real merara), Abadula gemeda andy the new one like Jawar Mohamed who works for a penny for Egypt and Qatar, Bekele geriba even if the agames whip him so bad he still didn't get it and work for them again and many others.

If you really think about it. something must be wrong and should be changed. I mean after 50 years of sacrifices still, you are following the same ppls adding some more and live a fantasy life. Your leaders that I mention above use Oromo politics as a way of life, job. Now they are old and they spent most of their life following wrong idea without success and they are disappointed ppls. they never had a stable life in Germany and other countries. Now they want to leave some legacy behind to their families and get something out of their lost life.
Therefore, they will do anything and align themselves with any group to clinch to power. once that happened they are the ones who will jail you again. This is the same drama happening in mekele as you can witness.

My advice to the young Oromo people is to use the current situation for leverage and negotiate for wider self-administration if you feel you are marginalized.You have to see the reality your self you don't need a fake leader or I call them an interpreter to tell you who you are and tell a false narrative about your ancestor's life of the past 200 years which is self-serving and false. you should move on and build a better place for you and your children. However there are some groups of hooligans wielding a machete and raping innocent people are the product of helplessness and lack hope and work. If you show them real path to prosperity and equality they will be a good productive society. it has been proven time and time again.
They can be reformed.in order to do that it is necessary to understand the hidden agenda of Jawar, Bekele griba, Abdula and ppls like that.
you can see how quickly they change their stance according to the political heat. They are there to grab to power not to help the oromo ppls.

Actually, they despise the Oromo ppl. and undermine their intelligence that is why they present themselves to speak for the oromo ppls without any representation, and on top of that, they live in Addis Ababa far from their ppls. Since they can't live with Oromo ppls in Oromia they came up with the stupid idea of Addis Ababa is Oromia.
because they don't want to move to oromia they are comfortable here therefore they try to bring Oromia to them. hypocrisy at its best.
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You repeatedly mention that the leaders of oromo politics in the past 50 years achieved nothing. If so where does the current qubee generation come from? What about oromo children learning afaan oromo in schools? what about the term oromumaa? It is easy to dismiss everything you do not like. But facts matter.
Needless to mention the cultural progresses made in the last 50 years.
So if you truly want progress in Ethiopia based on common goal, take off your hate hat and promote facts.

[tlel]

Bingo!!! Yabello proved to be the Italian Mulatoo enriching in Oromia

[tlel]

True ormos are the pillar of our freedom. For example, Abdisa Aga, General Mulugeta Bulti,Degach Gobena Dachew, and many others are true Ethiopians who are respected by all Ethiopians and the enemy too.
Here some peoples listed below as an example, who are uneducated and blinded by hate and tribalism have been instigating hate and war fro the past 50 years without any success destroying many young Oromo Ethiopian life. while they hide in Germany , Eritrea, Kenya , Madagascar, and so on. to mention some of them. Gelasa delbu, Dowd ibsa, Merrara gudina ( real merara), Abadula gemeda andy the new one like Jawar Mohamed who works for a penny for Egypt and Qatar, Bekele geriba even if the agames whip him so bad he still didn't get it and work for them again and many others.

If you really think about it. something must be wrong and should be changed. I mean after 50 years of sacrifices still, you are following the same ppls adding some more and live a fantasy life. Your leaders that I mention above use Oromo politics as a way of life, job. Now they are old and they spent most of their life following wrong idea without success and they are disappointed ppls. they never had a stable life in Germany and other countries. Now they want to leave some legacy behind to their families and get something out of their lost life.
Therefore, they will do anything and align themselves with any group to clinch to power. once that happened they are the ones who will jail you again. This is the same drama happening in mekele as you can witness.

My advice to the young Oromo people is to use the current situation for leverage and negotiate for wider self-administration if you feel you are marginalized.You have to see the reality your self you don't need a fake leader or I call them an interpreter to tell you who you are and tell a false narrative about your ancestor's life of the past 200 years which is self-serving and false. you should move on and build a better place for you and your children. However there are some groups of hooligans wielding a machete and raping innocent people are the product of helplessness and lack hope and work. If you show them real path to prosperity and equality they will be a good productive society. it has been proven time and time again.
They can be reformed.in order to do that it is necessary to understand the hidden agenda of Jawar, Bekele griba, Abdula and ppls like that.
you can see how quickly they change their stance according to the political heat. They are there to grab to power not to help the oromo ppls.

Actually, they despise the Oromo ppl. and undermine their intelligence that is why they present themselves to speak for the oromo ppls without any representation, and on top of that, they live in Addis Ababa far from their ppls. Since they can't live with Oromo ppls in Oromia they came up with the stupid idea of Addis Ababa is Oromia.
because they don't want to move to oromia they are comfortable here therefore they try to bring Oromia to them. hypocrisy at its best.
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You repeatedly mention that the leaders of oromo politics in the past 50 years achieved nothing. If so where does the current qubee generation come from? What about oromo children learning afaan oromo in schools? what about the term oromumaa? It is easy to dismiss everything you do not like. But facts matter.
Needless to mention the cultural progresses made in the last 50 years.
So if you truly want progress in Ethiopia based on common goal, take off your hate hat and promote facts.

Every thing you mentioned above is not native to Oromo or Ethiopia: Qubee is Latin which you inherited from colonial Italy, Oromoumma is mixture of Oromo with Wahabi,, achieve for the Oromo generation you said, yes by recolonizing their mind making them kneed infront of colonialists. Is that your achievement? inheriting and submitting to colony?

[EPRDF]

ግልገል ነፍጠኞች፣ ጣልያንን የሚጠሉት ልክ ዛሬ ሕወኃትን በሚጠሉበት ኃይለ-ስሜት (passion) ነው። የጥላቻቸው ዋናው ምንጭ የእነሱ የበላይነት መቀነስ ወይም መንኮታኮት

አሁን የኛ ችግር እኮ ነፍጠኛ አይደለም። የዛሬ አርባ ስድስት ዓመት፣ ሺ አለቃ መንግስቱ ኃይለማሪያም ስልሳ የንጉሱን ሚኒስትሮችና ባለሞዋሎች በረሸናቸው ሌሊት ነበር ለአንዴም ለመጨረሻ ጊዜም የነፍጠኛው ስርዓት ያከተመለት፣ ወያኔም ተው እረፍ እያልነው አልሰማ ብሎ በራሱ ጥጋብና ዕብሪት ከተንኮታኮተ እነሆ ሁለት ዓመት አስቆጥሮዋል። እኛን አ ንቅልፍ እየነሳን ያለው አሁን፣ ታዘይ ብዬ ባዝላት ተንጠልጥላ ቀረች እንዳሉት፣ መሬት ላራሹ፣ የብሄር መብትና እኩልነት ብለን ስላሳ ሚልዮን ኦሮሞ አሰባስበን አንድ ላይ ከምረን፣ኦሮምያ ብለን ፈጥረን፣ ይሄው ያ ኦሮሞ ዛሬ ሁሉም የኔ ነው፣ ዓይናችሁን እንዳያሳይኝ፣ በሉ ድራሻችሁ ይጥፋልኝ እያለ የሚፎክርበት ቀረርቶ ነው። ነፍጠኛን አባሮ ወያኔን፣ ወያኔን አባሮ ኦሮሙማን ለማንገስ አልነበረም ትውልድ ያለቀው። አንዴት ያች ሐገር የሁሉም የዜጎችዋ ሐገር ትሆናለች ነው ፍለሚያው።
ምን ይላሉ እዚህ ላይ ኦቦ Yaballo?

[Lakeshore]

This OUERRO, olf< ofeco, SHENE these are mobs, hooligans who terrorize the same people they are claiming to represent. How do they get the mandate to represent the Oromo peoples? The answer is easy because they don't value their own life. They don't have a job, they do not have education so they can't be higher in peaceful Ethiopia therefore they took hooliganism as a way of life and endanger most of Oromo's life. In order to reflect and understand their mistake, the government shows them patience but they interpret it as a weakness . They keep terrorizing small villages where the government forces are few and try to sneak up in the night and kill individual government employees. Is this really a struggle or a crime. You did it for the last 50 years and nothing happened and will never happen in the future too.

Now when Abye is pressured and starts to crack down on these hooligans they start to cry and asked amnesty international, on BBC, Aljazeera to save them. If you are brave as you claimed then do not complain. The sad thing about this Oromo libration hooligans is that for the third time they are closing the chance for self-administration by violating individual rights and committing very savage crimes that never happened in Ethiopia. They are trying to slander our Christian name as the land of pagan.

Neftegna " Amhara peoples are believers they forgive but they do not forget. They do not believe in ethnicity but in unity. as you said if you do not want unity you can't act like a child with tantrum. There are rules and procedures you have to follow that but if you choose to continue fighting after you came to Ethiopia by the mercy of Ethiopian then you do not want to stand on the wrong side of Amahara people trust me.

ዓማራ ሲጥል አንጂ ሲተኩስ ኣይታይም ሲባል ኣልሰማህም የኣጋመውን ህውሃት በቁም ያሰረው ኣማራ ነው without any bullet shot they quarantine the agame TPLF in agmeland.No matter what is your agenda you have to abide by the law of the land. You can't carry your old gun and roam around the bushes and terrorize poor Oromos. At the same time, do not come here and open your filthy mouth as Oromo you are an Arab agent who works for pocket money. No these hooligans do not represent the peace-loving Oromo people.

[TGAA]

የዚህ የቦዘኔ ስነፍ አእምሮ በየጊዜው የሚያቀረሸውን እንደቁም ነገር ወስዶ መተቸትም እራሱ ስራፈት መሆን ነው ፤ ነገር ግን እንደ ኮሚክ ድራማ ይህንን ምስኪን አስተሳሰብ በመለጠጥ፣ መሳቅ ፤ በጣም መሳቅ ይቻላል ፡ ነፍጠኞች ጣሊያንን የሚጠሉት (አማሮች) ፤ ሌሎች ኢትዮጵያዊያን የኦሮሞ፤ የትግራይ፤ የወላሞ ወይንም ሌሎች የዘመቱት ኢትዮጵያዊያን ለዚህ ተረት ተረት ስለማይመች የነሱ ተጋድሎ ለዚህ የአረብ እግር ላሽ ያቢሎ /ጸጋዬ አራርሳ መነሳት የለበትም፡፡

“በነገራችን ላይ የነፍጠኝነት ወራሽ የሆኑ የአማራ የፖለቲካ ልሂቃን፣ ጣልያንን የሚጠሉት፣ ቅኝ አገዛዝን ስለሚቃወሙ፣ ወይም የግፍ አገዛዝን ስለሚጠሉ፣ ወይም ጣልያን ያደረሰውን የመብት ጥሰት ስለሚጠየፉት አይደለም። (ጉዳዩ፣ ለእነርሱ፣ ቅኝ ግዛትንና ሥልጣኔን [እና ክርስትናን] በማስፋፋት ሥም ሕዝቦችን መውረር፣ 'እኛው ልክ እንደ ነጮቹ እያደረግነው ያለ ነገር ነው፣ ወይም እኛ ማድረግ የሚገባን ነገር ነው' ብለው ስለሚያምኑ፣ ከቅኝ ገዢዎች ጋር የመፎካከር ጉዳይ እንጂ፣ የነፃነት ታጋይነት ጉዳይ አልነበረም፤ አይደለምም።)”



ሀ፣ በጣሊያን ቅኝ አገዛዝ መውደቅ ምንም እንኳን በጣም የሚያመረቅን ነገር ቢሆንም ኢትዮጵያዊያን እራሳቸው ቀኝ ለመግዛት ባላቸው ፍላጎት ባይኖራቸው ኖሩ አሜን ብለው ይቀበሉ ነበር ፤ ሌሎች በቅኝ አገዛዝ የወደቁ ሀገሮች ያገኝትን ጸጋ ተካፋዮች ይሆኑ ነበር ፤ ለምሳሌ በባርነት ወደ አሜሪካ ወደ ካሪብያን ፤ ወደ ደቡብ አሜሪካ፤ ልክ እንደ ኮንጎ አምስት ሚሊዮን ኮንጎዊያን የቤልጅግ ግድያ ጸጋ የጎናጸፉ ነበር ፤ አያችሁ እንዴት ሌሎችን ለመግዛት ፍላጎት ምን ያህል ሲሳይ እንደሚያሳጣ፤፡}
ለ፣ ያቢሎ ጅልነት ሲለጠጥ ፤ ባህር አቋርጦ አንተ ሰው አይደለህም ዝንጀሮ ነህ ብሎ ሊገዛህ፤ ሊረግጥህ የመጣ የነጭ ገዥ እሺ ትክክልነህ ብለው ኢትዮጵያዊያን መገዛት ነበረባቸው ፤ እኛም መግዛት አለብን ብለው ፉክክር ባይገቡ ኖሮ፤ እርግጠኛ ሆኖ መናገር የሚቻለውህ ያቤሎ ይህ ደደብ ከጥላቻ በስተቀር ቅኝ መገዛት ምን እንደሆነ ምንም ፍንጭ የሌለው እንስሳ መሆኑን ነው የሚያሳየው ፡ ኢትዮጵያዊያን ፍክክር ገብተው ክሆነ ጣልያንን ያርበደበዱት ሁሉም ቅኝ ግዥ የወደቁት በሞላ ከቀኝ ገዥዎቻቸው ጋር ፍክክር ቢገቡ ኖሮ ያቤሎ ውስጥ ያለው የበታችነት ስሜት ለልጅ ልጆቻቸው አያስትላልፉም ነበር፡፡

“ግልገል ነፍጠኞች፣ ጣልያንን የሚጠሉት ልክ ዛሬ ሕወኃትን በሚጠሉበት ኃይለ-ስሜት (passion) ነው። ዋና የጥላቻቸው ምክንያት ደግሞ፣ በጣልያንም ሆነ በሕወኀት አስተዳደር፣ ፍትህ መጓደሉ፣ ነፃነት መታፈኑ አይደለም።

ዋናው ምክንያታቸው፣ በእነዚህ አስተዳደሮች ሥር፣ የአገሪቱ ብሔሮች፣ ማንነትና ሰ”ብዓዊ ክብራቸው (ለገዢዎቹ የፖለቲካ ፍጆታና ለይስሙላም ቢሆን) እውቅና ማግኘቱ፣ እና የነፍጠኛ-ገባር (የባላባት) ሥርዓት--በጣልያን ጊዜ፣ ለጊዜውም ቢሆንከ1966 በኋላ ደግሞ በተሻለ ዘላቂነት-- በመንኮታኮቱ ነው።”

ይሄ ብሄራዊ ትያትር መቅረብ ያለበት “ የተሀድሶ ኮምክና ሊባል ይቻላል “ ያቤሎ /አራርሳ (
ይህንን ጹፉፍ ጸጋዬ አራርሳ በፌስ ቡኩ ላይ አስፍሮታል ፤
በጣልያን ቅኝ ግዛት ወቅትና በወያኔ የጥቁር አፓርታይድ ስርአት ውስጥ የብሄሮች ስብአዊ መብት የተጠበቀ ስርአቶች ስለነበሩ ፡ ውስጡ ቀፍ የሆነ ሰው ያልሆነ የሰው ጭንጋፍ ያብሎ/ጽጋዬ አራርሳ የደቡብ አፍሪካ አፓርታይድ ስርአት እኩልነት የሰፈረበት የብሄሮች ሰብአዊ መብት የተጠበቀበት የነበረ ስርአት ነው እያለን ነው; ምን ያህል ቀፎ ስብእና ያለው ባዶ ሰው መሆኑን ነው የሚያሳየው ፤ ጸጋዬ አራርሳ አንዴ በአዲስ ስታንዳርድ እንደጻፈው አጼ ሚኔልክ እኔ ጥቁር አይደለሁም እኔ ፍረንጅ (caucasian) ነኝ ብሎ ተናግሯል ብሎ የጻፈ ኮሜዲያን ነው ;
እነ ያቤሎ/ አራርሳ / ገመቹ የሚጽፉት ሰብስቦ ትልቅ የኮመዲ መጻፍ ማተም ይቻላል

[Lakeshore]

That is an old Western slogan. The current situation in Ethiopia is about the rise of false ethnicism advocated by Arabs, the west with different agenda and followed by their agents like Jawar, Bekele Geriba, Dawed Ibsa, Merra, Melese.

These organizations started as Marxists. But when socialism start to fail because of Gorbachev's perestroika and USSR internal power struggle. The support of money and armaments drained both for Ethiopian government and these foreign agent groups. Then the Arab, to spread Islamism and the west i.e USA, Britania, Germany, Italy and so on, to completely eliminate the last socialist nation in Africa, approach this groups at list twice, in Italy Bologna Italy, London England and instruct them to keep their differences aside, change their ideology and fight Mengistu if they want to stay relevant in Ethiopian politics.

The west didn't see them as a reliable agent because of two major reasons. first, all of them organized under Marxist Leninist ideology even if they do not understand it fully the reason why I say that they didn't have a formally educated person in them, plus they were practicing different from Marxism. for example, Melese Zenawi follows the Albanian style Enver Hoxa's distorted version. Isayas was practicing the Mao Tse-tung version and OLF similarly.

Second, contrary to the communist ideology they were deeply divided and organized under ethnic lines. However, their belief was to form their own separate nation and till then agreed to fight the most dangerous enemy for both of them the Ethiopian government even if they are feeding on it.

Prior to approaching these groups, the west tried to topple Mengistu multiple times. They tried to assassinate him. They conducted many subversive actions in the country like organizing EDU lead Cudeta which failed prematurely resulted in the arrest of its 18 members. example Degazmach Asegahegn, Degazmach Ketsela from inside and many others from Somalia, Egypt and many other Arab countries. After that the CIA and MI5 attempt for the second time by infiltrating the Ethiopian army and recruiting some military Generals and officers to topple Mengistu. The depth of the infiltration was limited to top brasses only because of the very sophisticated and feared Ethiopian security agency.

The final plan of the cudeta started on May 8, Ethiopian calendar to shoot down Mengistu's plane when he was traveling to East Germany ( GDR) for an official visit as all of us know that cudeta failed miserable and coast many lives.

The west was baffled by the successive failer and loyalty of the people to Mengistu. As a resort to remove him they fledging a full-scale war against Ethiopian people. For this action, the west approached these terrorist organizations like TPL,ELF, EpLF, OLF, IFLO actually any group that was engaged in destabilizing the country invited to Italy Bologna. At this time Mengistu was ready to launch its final offensive under the slogan " The red star call" those groups were terrified so they agree to everything, including to denounce their Marxist ideology, on the table In exchange for armament, training and battlefield information, logistic and Immigration status for the leaders of these registered terrorist group members in the west.

At the same time, the west approached Mengistu as a mediator and arranged negotiations with these groups again In Italy. This time the negotiator from the Ethiopian side includes x EPLF members who surrender to Derg, Example, Teklay and his brother they were high raking EPLF members and Abraham Yayeh from TPLF Gebremedihin was left because of the language barrier. Then before the meeting started when they see Teklay and his brother the EPLF got furies and left the negotiation.

On the other hand, the west organized the formation of the united front against Ethiopia. Creating EPRDF during the so-called second congress.
The west made them fledge unity between EPLF, TPLF, EPRP, OLF, IFLO. They reorganize them and started a full-scale war supported by them and some Arab countries like Egypt. This time the cash flows in the pocket of these group leaders started. Even if they are fighting and negotiated together OLF and IFLO didn't get as much as the others because they are not tigree and they were not that effective in the war front. The leader of these groups started to live a high life for example Meles in Mogadishu. This was the money Aboy Sibihat of TPLF's old dog always saying we ( EFERT) had money before we came to Addis from business dealing but it was tied to the war and he doesn't have direct access.

The problem of this agreement with the west was so secret to fighters at the ground. As the fighting continued and Tplf and EPLF told to continue to Addis Ababa, even if they are enjoying the new weapons, and more food than before the fighters started to raise questions. why are we fighting out of our province as their name implies TPLF is by design tigrea libration and EPLF was Eritrean libration. The answer was it is wartime no and we will explain that later. When they reach Addis Ababa the EPLF leadership sticks to their promises and went back to Eritrea but TPLF guesses what they didn't instead they arrest all who raises the question. They arrested more than 15 000 tgree fighters after a few weeks of reaching Addis Ababa. Among the prisoners, 5000 of them died of torture and excution. The rest deported back to Tigray after deeply reformed some of them given land in Oromia, Gambela, Welqiyet, Wello, Amachiho, Addis Ababa, Hawassa, Nazeret. Among them, Debretsion who exiled later after few years to Tigray when TPLF splits into two factions this was the main reason, not the Eritrea war. Meresa, hassan shifa to mention few.

Read any history you will not find any libration front lead country prospering because they fight for a very long time they get addicted to the chaos they get institutionalized. It is like a prisoner who spent decades in jail and when they come out can function in normal society. Mujahidin,Unita, Isis, PLO, POLISARIO, Rwnada, ZANU any many groups

These groups in Ethiopia are different because they betrayed their own ideology, their own people, their own country basically themselves. They do not represent Oromo or Tigree they are living day by day. However, Abiy didn't come through war addiction and he is practicing faith he has family and young so he is different and we should give him a chance.

[TGAA]

La Luta Continua' yabllo . It is gratifying to see you turn from a cocksure social engineer into a self debuting mumble. You know it is not about self-administration because Oromos are their own administrators, and those who like to beat Abiy they can do it in the election booth. Your instinctive drive to mogasized Ethiopia is a no-no. All can sit down and discuss how to perfect the union taking into consideration all stakeholder's interests. without imposition and with goodwill towards each other. But by attacking groups not by their ideas but by their blood and location is the most archaic politics ever. ከወደቁ ወዲያ መንፈራገጥ ለመላላጥ, for now, you can continue your defeatist song La Luta Continua' yabllo . It is music to our ears. Good over evil. " we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil."
Selected Speeches of H.I.M. Haile Selassie I

[banebris2013]

That is an old Western slogan. The current situation in Ethiopia is about the rise of false ethnicism advocated by Arabs, the west with different agenda and followed by their agents like Jawar, Bekele Geriba, Dawed Ibsa, Merra, Melese.

These organizations started as Marxists. But when socialism start to fail because of Gorbachev's perestroika and USSR internal power struggle. The support of money and armaments drained both for Ethiopian government and these foreign agent groups. Then the Arab, to spread Islamism and the west i.e USA, Britania, Germany, Italy and so on, to completely eliminate the last socialist nation in Africa, approach this groups at list twice, in Italy Bologna Italy, London England and instruct them to keep their differences aside, change their ideology and fight Mengistu if they want to stay relevant in Ethiopian politics.

The west didn't see them as a reliable agent because of two major reasons. first, all of them organized under Marxist Leninist ideology even if they do not understand it fully the reason why I say that they didn't have a formally educated person in them, plus they were practicing different from Marxism. for example, Melese Zenawi follows the Albanian style Enver Hoxa's distorted version. Isayas was practicing the Mao Tse-tung version and OLF similarly.

Second, contrary to the communist ideology they were deeply divided and organized under ethnic lines. However, their belief was to form their own separate nation and till then agreed to fight the most dangerous enemy for both of them the Ethiopian government even if they are feeding on it.

Prior to approaching these groups, the west tried to topple Mengistu multiple times. They tried to assassinate him. They conducted many subversive actions in the country like organizing EDU lead Cudeta which failed prematurely resulted in the arrest of its 18 members. example Degazmach Asegahegn, Degazmach Ketsela from inside and many others from Somalia, Egypt and many other Arab countries. After that the CIA and MI5 attempt for the second time by infiltrating the Ethiopian army and recruiting some military Generals and officers to topple Mengistu. The depth of the infiltration was limited to top brasses only because of the very sophisticated and feared Ethiopian security agency.

The final plan of the cudeta started on May 8, Ethiopian calendar to shoot down Mengistu's plane when he was traveling to East Germany ( GDR) for an official visit as all of us know that cudeta failed miserable and coast many lives.

The west was baffled by the successive failer and loyalty of the people to Mengistu. As a resort to remove him they fledging a full-scale war against Ethiopian people. For this action, the west approached these terrorist organizations like TPL,ELF, EpLF, OLF, IFLO actually any group that was engaged in destabilizing the country invited to Italy Bologna. At this time Mengistu was ready to launch its final offensive under the slogan " The red star call" those groups were terrified so they agree to everything, including to denounce their Marxist ideology, on the table In exchange for armament, training and battlefield information, logistic and Immigration status for the leaders of these registered terrorist group members in the west.

At the same time, the west approached Mengistu as a mediator and arranged negotiations with these groups again In Italy. This time the negotiator from the Ethiopian side includes x EPLF members who surrender to Derg, Example, Teklay and his brother they were high raking EPLF members and Abraham Yayeh from TPLF Gebremedihin was left because of the language barrier. Then before the meeting started when they see Teklay and his brother the EPLF got furies and left the negotiation.

On the other hand, the west organized the formation of the united front against Ethiopia. Creating EPRDF during the so-called second congress.
The west made them fledge unity between EPLF, TPLF, EPRP, OLF, IFLO. They reorganize them and started a full-scale war supported by them and some Arab countries like Egypt. This time the cash flows in the pocket of these group leaders started. Even if they are fighting and negotiated together OLF and IFLO didn't get as much as the others because they are not tigree and they were not that effective in the war front. The leader of these groups started to live a high life for example Meles in Mogadishu. This was the money Aboy Sibihat of TPLF's old dog always saying we ( EFERT) had money before we came to Addis from business dealing but it was tied to the war and he doesn't have direct access.

The problem of this agreement with the west was so secret to fighters at the ground. As the fighting continued and Tplf and EPLF told to continue to Addis Ababa, even if they are enjoying the new weapons, and more food than before the fighters started to raise questions. why are we fighting out of our province as their name implies TPLF is by design tigrea libration and EPLF was Eritrean libration. The answer was it is wartime no and we will explain that later. When they reach Addis Ababa the EPLF leadership sticks to their promises and went back to Eritrea but TPLF guesses what they didn't instead they arrest all who raises the question. They arrested more than 15 000 tgree fighters after a few weeks of reaching Addis Ababa. Among the prisoners, 5000 of them died of torture and excution. The rest deported back to Tigray after deeply reformed some of them given land in Oromia, Gambela, Welqiyet, Wello, Amachiho, Addis Ababa, Hawassa, Nazeret. Among them, Debretsion who exiled later after few years to Tigray when TPLF splits into two factions this was the main reason, not the Eritrea war. Meresa, hassan shifa to mention few.

Read any history you will not find any libration front lead country prospering because they fight for a very long time they get addicted to the chaos they get institutionalized. It is like a prisoner who spent decades in jail and when they come out can function in normal society. Mujahidin,Unita, Isis, PLO, POLISARIO, Rwnada, ZANU any many groups

These groups in Ethiopia are different because they betrayed their own ideology, their own people, their own country basically themselves. They do not represent Oromo or Tigree they are living day by day. However, Abiy didn't come through war addiction and he is practicing faith he has family and young so he is different and we should give him a chance.

Did you count how many times you copied and pasted? You seem to be one of those so called habasha elites , who are deranged and filled with hate. No one expects your leprosy infected brain to do better than this.

[Lakeshore]

Mengaw yabello
Still, you are talking unrelated gibberish. May I ask your level of education, please? It looks like something is not sinking i mean you also have a problem getting facts let alone abstract ideas. However, you tend to focus on petty things and word splitting. I realized that when I read most of your posts.

Again it is not about portages or Spanish it was used metaphorically meaning you do not take it literally word by word and completely forget the argument. Unless and otherwise, you conceded to the other side point of view.

Yabello mengaw said:

That means that in Oromia ONLY the citizens & accepted residents of Oromia can decide on issues that concern their region. Those who refuse to learn Afaan Oromo & try to undermine the laws of Oromia WILL BE DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR HOME REGIONS WHERE MILK & HONEY FLOWS LIKE THE MIGHTY MISSISSIPPI RIVER [SIC], OR THEIR HEADS CHOPPED-OFF

This by itself violates the fundamental rights of individuals be it Oromo or other ethics. By doing so yo make 75% of other Ethiopians your enemy and destined to be eliminated let alone creat Ormia. According to your idiocy who is determining who is Oromo or who is not Oromo in your fantasy land. Jawar, Bekele Geriba, Merrara, or Egypt and Quatar. stupid animal.

OLF,IFLO,OFECO and Qurro are enemies of Ethiopia and most of the Enemies of Oromo people will be jailed for life.

[TGAA]

TGAA,

1) - Mi monito hambriento [my little starving baboon],

You completely missed the main point of my argument in the above post in relation to the number one desire of the Oromos [self-rule]. By logic, the right to a 'self-rule' implies that ONLY those that are part of that self-ruling entity or region have the actual right to determine what goes on in their region.

That means that in Oromia ONLY the citizens & accepted residents of Oromia can decide on issues that concern their region. Those who refuse to learn Afaan Oromo & try to undermine the laws of Oromia WILL BE DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR HOME REGIONS WHERE MILK & HONEY FLOWS LIKE THE MIGHTY MISSISSIPPI RIVER [SIC], OR THEIR HEADS CHOPPED-OFF .

Hence, NO FUNGA ZINJEROS FROM other regions outside Oromia - not even the USELESS & AMHARIC-SPEAKING BABOONS who reside in the capital Addis Ababa - can have a say on what goes on in Oromia, unless their input is sought by Oromos. Capito?? .. EASY!


2) - regarding the phrase 'LA Luta Continua..'

But, just how many things do I have to teach complete donkeys like you? .. Oh dear.

Anyway, that Portuguese phrase made popular by famous revolutionaries such as 'Ernesto Che Guevara', 'Fidel Castro', 'Samora Machel' [Mozambique], etc, is made-up of TWO phrases, not just the first phrase that most people use [La Luta Continua].

The phrase embodies the resolve & determination of revolutionaries, freedom fighters or combatants seeking national liberation to WIN no matter what. OK? .. Not that your spastic brain can grasp concepts that does not suit your 'little corner of hell & permanent misery' known as 'Etiopía la mierda' [=the little [deleted] called Ethiopia]..

Hence, the complete phrase is:

“A Luta Continua, Vitória é certa”.

In English, it means “The struggle continues, victory is certain”.


Or, its Spanish version made popular by Ernesto Che Guevara & Fidel Castro goes like this:


"La Lucha Contunua, Venceremos!"


photo: Samora Machel .. "La Luta Continua, Vitória é certa" ..



photo:"Hasta La Victoria Siempre .. La Lucha Conitunua, Venceremos!" .. Ernesto Che Guevara.



photo: La Lucha Contiunua, Patria O Muerte, Venceremos! ... Fidel Castro Ruz.



song: Mozambique .. La Luta Continua .. (By the late & greatest, Miriam Makeba).

song: Miriam Makeba singing Amharic song ... Yetentu Tizaleny (Stereo Version).

La Luta Continua' yabllo . It is gratifying to see you turn from a cocksure social engineer into a self debuting mumble. You know it is not about self-administration because Oromos are their own administrators, and those who like to beat Abiy they can do it in the election booth. Your instinctive drive to mogasized Ethiopia is a no-no. All can sit down and discuss how to perfect the union taking into consideration all stakeholder's interests. without imposition and with goodwill towards each other. But by attacking groups not by their ideas but by their blood and location is the most arcohaic politics ever. ከወደቁ ወዲያ መንፈራገጥ ለመላላጥ, for now, you can continue your defeatist song La Luta Continua' yabllo . It is music to our ears. Good over evil. " we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil."
Selected Speeches of H.I.M. Haile Selassie I

You are not that complecated --- the more you scrabble -- your simplton nature becomes apparent . There is no an Oromo citizen there is only Ethiopan citiznary an Oromoia region and Oromo nationality within Ethiopia.

"That means that in Oromia ONLY the citizens & accepted residents of Oromia can decide on issues that concern their region. Those who refuse to learn Afaan Oromo & try to undermine the laws of Oromia WILL BE DEPORTED BACK TO THEIR HOME REGIONS WHERE MILK & HONEY FLOWS LIKE THE MIGHTY MISSISSIPPI RIVER [SIC], OR THEIR HEADS CHOPPED-OFF .

Hence, NO FUNGA ZINJEROS FROM other regions outside Oromia - not even the USELESS & AMHARIC-SPEAKING BABOONS who reside in the capital Addis Ababa - can have a say on what goes on in Oromia, unless their input is sought by Oromos. Capito?? .. EASY!"

You are an eptomy of sexually fustrated baboon "“Sexual frustration is a natural response to there being an imbalance between what you want (or need) sexually and what you're currently getting or experiencing.” It manifests differently in everybody. For some people, it may present as generalized anger or agitation, for others, depression or anxiety" Change the word" sexually furstrated" to "politically furstrated "you will understand the state of mind you are in , although it is most likely both could be true. Your weyae trained shennes are running for their life , so are you going to raise your rifle and join as a man the fighting or are you going to b---tch from your down under wholle . you don't have to work up your self to explain what LA Luta Continua -- What I tring to hint you is that -- you once thought that you were close to undone Ethiopia with ayatolla jawar those days are way far from being realized -- now we are back to square one LA Luta Continua . There is noting you can do about but complain and wallow and LA Luta Continua. Nothing left you dork .

[Lakeshore]

አኔ ነሞትኩ ሰርዶ ኣይብቀል ኣለች ኣሀያ አናንትን ማለቱ ይሆን

[EPRDF]

Obbo EPRDF;

Akkami?

NaguumaJiirrna attiho akamiin jiirta yaa oboleysa guudaa?

1) No, Oromos are NOT in-charge in today's Ethiopia. In fact, Ethiopia has headed back to the old & pre-woyane era of the Derg & the emperors when Amharic-speaking elites coming mostly from Shoa (including Amharic-speaking or assimilated Oromos from Shoa) lorded over the rest.

Wannabe-emperor & ethnic Amhara Col Abiy (yes, he is not Oromo at all!) is aiming to re-make what he calls "the old & glorious Ethiopia" -

I am lost here and I want to ask if you don't mind..

In the collaboration of OPD formerly opdo and ADP formerly andm, after TPLF had successfully been forced to descend from its hegemonical power, the central power has been controlled by Oromo and Amhara elements of formerly ehadeg organization. So it is pretty hard for me to agree with your thought that "Oromos are not in charge of in today's Ethiopia".

Some even argue that Oromos' control of the government is disproportionate and they stress that Oromos' control is overwhelmed, and Abiy is even being accused of working for Oromo political supremacy clandestinely. So how would you reconcile these two diametrically opposite and growing perceptions of his opponents towards Abiy?

Another point for a question I want to raise is the labeling of Obbo Abiy as Gobena.

Obbo Abiy is hailed from Oromo ethnicity/linguistic group and came to power. He is in charge of the affair of a country and home for diverse ethno/linguistic groups numbered over hundred million. By takin the current Ethiopian political context under consideration, so tell me Obbo Yaballo, what this man(Abiy) got to do to be Abdisa Aga or Taddasa Biiru and not to be Gobana thus he can serve best the interests of Orommuma. What exactly is he supposed to do in your opinion?
Galatoomi.

[Lakeshore]

yaballo wrote: ↑Yesterday, 22:17

1) No, Oromos are NOT in-charge in today's Ethiopia. In fact, Ethiopia has headed back to the old & pre-woyane era of the Derg & the emperors when Amharic-speaking elites coming mostly from Shoa (including Amharic-speaking or assimilated Oromos from Shoa) lorded over the rest.

Wannabe-emperor & ethnic Amhara Col Abiy (yes, he is not Oromo at all!) is aiming to re-make what he calls "the old & glorious Ethiopia"


So that is the prove by your admission The old useless OLF, Querro and OFECO and Bekele Geriba, Dawd Ibsa, Jawar and likes failed again for the 51 years again. You can't get a new result by doing the same thing. Assimilated or be eliminated no other way. Egyptian agents.

[TGAA]

Yabllos missed opportunity! Dame those Amharas.



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[Lakeshore]

Yabello you didn't answer my question but you pose another instead.

just to answer your question that was addressed my Mengistu since the name-calling can be interpreted both ways as derogatory for the laborers and just a name for laborer and innocent mistake. The British introduced it in Ethiopia it is not an Amharic word. After Mengistu, it is replaced by Wezader or Serategna. a mistake happened but correcting it more important than dwelling over it. I didn't remember Gurage Gurage that must be your agame usual fabricated story.
Actually I remember the agame going around and saying for the sake marry give me Enjera" sle minte mariam" and Lewach lewach while spying for Italy and TPLF. The generous Addis Ababa people aways give them something to eat to this ungrateful agames.

Gurage is a God-fearing hard-working tribe that is what unites them with Amhara and they are not liers.

[Lakeshore]

Yabello As i said before you didn't answer my question yet.
By your admission currently, Oromo is in power. So why are you foreign agents especial agents of Oromigna speaking Egyptian agents like Bekele Griba, Dawed IBsa, Jawar Mohamad, Merrara, Takele goma, of OLF, OFECO, Qerro, Shintamu shene are fighting In Oromia to liberate them from what? Or they want their region of all of them and give us five or six presidents. In a country, there is only one presidency. Can you explain to us this instead of posting the fake history like Anole and make them a statu for Graziani and Mussolini in Arusi?

This fiction of yours is one of the proofs that shows you and those groups who claim to be Oromo actually are enemies of Oromo because it shows how to flow you can go when you are cornered and to please your Arab masters. You are insulting the great OROMO children like Abdisa Aga, Dejazmach Bekele Weya, Geresu Duki, Bacha Abanebso, Habtegiorgis Binegde, and many others. These groups OLF, OFECO,QUERRO,shinatmu SHENE are ready to eleiminate every Oromo if it doesn't fit them in their narative. Like the Agame's your days are numbered.

[TGAA]

This is my humble opinion that you haven't gotten to know the person called Yabllo . Your attempt to reason with him is not going to be reciprocated in kind. This debased creature is beyond redemption. He collects garbage and spews out garbage, thus you need to treat him as such.

[Lakeshore]

I realized that now thanks TGAA.