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[kebena05]

ውሽዬ እኔ ላነቺ ጭንቅላቴ ዞረ።
ስንቱን መንግስታት፥ነገስታት፥ፓርቲወዎች፥ነጻ አውጪዎች ደገፍሽ፣ተቃወምሽ?
ለመሆኑ አንቺ ያልደገፈፍሽውና ቆይተሽ ያልተቃወምሽው ነገር አለ?

How in the earth one can comprehend; the same head that praised Hailesellase is praising Mengistu?
It is like you are a Jewish Rabai but you also love Hitler
Only an Agame with FKD Up brain would think that.

[Lakeshore]

I don't disagree with any of your points actually I agree completely. however, you are comparing apples and oranges. The previous guy said Mengistu is to blame for the lack of quality in Ethiopian education. In response, i wrote that TPLF is worth than Mengistu and tried to point out that even the TPLF member in the leadership position falsified their credential and perpetuate that kind of behavior as a policy.

They did this for two main reasons. The first action was taken by Melese Zenawi because of personal reasons inferiority. As you know he was a dropout but he presents himself as an intellectual for the member of TPLF since that was the highest level of education in that group. The first thing he did was to fire those about 40 professors from the aa university who know him very well. So he can't continue his narrative of being an intellectual at list psychologically they remind him that he is a dropout.

The second reason was by the design of TPLF policy. They believe that 90% of the Ethiopian intellectuals are amharas origin and dismantling the educated seen as destroying Amhara in TPLF's policy. on top of that, it is done to degrade the value of the previous graduates (Aluminay ) of AA university, Asmara University, and Gonder medical school etc. in the society and in the industry and create a vacancy for the incompetent new TPLF cadres. So cheating and deception is TPLF's policy by design. Once meles says I quote " stealing a job as long as you are not caught"

Back to your argument even if I was not in part of the education system to say much, I have seen many world-class doctors, engineers, and economist come out of HM education system and some of them, for example, dr bahiru history, doctor alemayeh maths , dr, girma mulisa engineering and some of them were my teachers even Dr.Taye mekuria surgeon close friend of my mother, doctor paoulos Kenea ( Optalmologist) my friend while I was swimming at ghion and many others, there was no doubt about it.

The issue was the HM education system was elitist and it was not available to the mass on a larger scale. it always needs the blessing of the king or his right-hand men. Because it can't be as effective as it should be. There was no enough school, especially in rural areas.

During Mengistu, if you remember the adds Ababa's high school becomes three shifts each period lasts about 30 minutes and if it is Friday 20 minutes because of the teacher's meeting. of course, that hurts the quality of education a lot. Saying that still, students have to pass their exams and matric to go to higher education and so on. plagiarism was not a policy as it was in the past 20 years. Corruption was not rampant.

hear I am not to glorify Mengistu or I am not saying everything he did is write. What i am saying is comparing to the past 20 years he was a much better leader for Ethiopia and Ethiopians. I know when I say this I put salt in many ppls wounds who missed their loved ones under his administration but keeping aside that because a lot has been said about it blatantly, he also did many good things for the country economically, in education, women's rights, workers rights, industrialization, land reform, house reform, strengthen the defense and i believe it must be told and that is what I am trying to do supporting his good deeds by facts, not by hearsay.

I think he should come to the country he loves with honor. Now the criminal agames are quarantined in the agame land, who barred him from returning back using their kangaroo court. Abiy should have the courage to bring him back if he wants to win the election next year. This the quwstion of many ethiopians.

[Lakeshore]

my support for Mengistu is that under all these challenges and war he faced from inside and from outside he still managed to steer the country to prosperity while dismantling the monarch and the feudal system. On top of that, the Americans imperialism as he called them posed the ultimate opposition so that they pushed him to declare socialism and get help from the USSR

I simply called that igneous. despite all the internal and external opposition he managed to realize the land reform, literacy campaign, modernization of the country, for that matter most of the current industrial projects that agame tried to take credit for were planned and started during Mengistu. Thousands of engineers, doctors, surveyors, military personnel from poor families got a chance and sent to socialist countries with free scholarships. Free education, even after education a graduate shouldn't worry about getting a job because the job is waiting for him/her.
as the book says give caesar whatever it is his. Yes, many peoples especially young peoples lost their life. could it be done better yes but we should also see what was the alternatives? I heard about red terror a lot but who instigate it first the EPRP and EPLF they declare war in the city called white terror. they underestimate the power of the military and started to shoot elected kebele chairmen and some cadres. Then the decisive Mengistu declares red terror under the slogan " one comrade blood will be replaced by ten anarchist blood". And given the lower party members full power to arrest and kill. That was a mistake but again what was the alternative for the derg during the revolution. Still, his immediate action shows the leadership quality and love for his country. (which is a rear quality in the current one)
mistakes are made grave one but Mengistu keeps the country intact and lays the foundation for development that needs to recognize that is my point.

[Zmeselo]

Exactly!

Haile Selassie would sentence him to death for supporting Mengie, & vice versa.

ውሽዬ እኔ ላነቺ ጭንቅላቴ ዞረ።
ስንቱን መንግስታት፥ነገስታት፥ፓርቲወዎች፥ነጻ አውጪዎች ደገፍሽ፣ተቃወምሽ?
ለመሆኑ አንቺ ያልደገፈፍሽውና ቆይተሽ ያልተቃወምሽው ነገር አለ?

How in the earth one can comprehend; the same head that praised Hailesellase is praising Mengistu?
It is like you are a Jewish Rabai but you also love Hitler
Only an Agame with FKD Up brain would think that.

[Lakeshore]

" The Ethiopian revolution by Senaye likke" it was very telling of the situation at that time frame.

It shows how the anti-Ethiopian group attacked the revolution coordinately from every direction at its infancy by keeping their difference aside because of few foreign aids. They also thought Ethiopian is weak and every group saw an opportunity to advance their hidden agenda.

As the article shows in real-time Derg has brought a fundamental change in all aspects of life in Ethiopia. However, those remnants again supported by some foreign agents, like Egypt, Audi Arabia , Qatar, and Somalia mainly USA and Britian, TPLF and EL, sworn enemy of the Ethiopian ppl able to grab power and threaten our unity and integrity into question again.

As the article pointed out for every problem Derg faces they come up with a solution that participates all of the Ethiopian peoples, not only Amhara, Oromo, afar Somali, or others.

The same organization came to power again in current Ethiopia with different names like TPLF, OLF, West Somali front, IFLO, and OFECO supported by Arabs specifically Egypt and Sudan are trying for the second time to dismantle Ethiopia.

By know, most Ethiopian are aware of their intent and are waiting to vote them down if the election is not rigged. If that is not the case then another revolution will be inevitable. Mercenaries can not hold ppls will by the mussel of a gun.

In conclusion, despite the staggering opposition Derg faced, they were second to Minelike in contributing to social, cultural, and economic prosperity to the masses of Ethiopian people. Where people were proud to call themselves Ethiopian and leave and work everywhere in Ethiopia. Free health care was realized during the Derg. Muslims celebrate their holidays officially started during Derg. Regional Autonomy was realized during Derg later each provinces had its own administration represented in parliament. Huge power plants, weapon factories Cement factories built by Derg. Later TPLF divides the regions based on race and called it federalism and used it to undermine others and build Tigray only and steal all the resources from the other regions.

One act of the TPLF that depicts its true un Ethiopian nature is that After they came to power by the help of Egypt, USA, and Britain they did return the extra houses in cities and lands nationalized during derg to their owners in Tigri only. But they didn't return in other parts of Ethiopia. from the very get-go, these parasites were crooks they after looting Ethiopia and benefiting themselves.

The current opposition to the criminals in mekele supposed to be obvious and should happen the moment the criminals run away and hide to the axum hotels. People of that place should show opposition to these criminals but they didn't because they thought they might still benefit from it.

They don't believe in the change that is happening in Ethiopia, rather they protest in support of them. I know many individuals told me how strong TPLF is and will destroy the whole Africa if provoked and they bought into self-deception and couldn't see their demise.

What i suggest to Abiy is that not to support any group in Tigray let them fight TPLF by themselves and prove to us that they genuinely detest TPLF otherwise from their nature they infiltrate any struggle in order to save their and their family.

[Lakeshore]

Well, it is imperative not to focus on an event and able to see the general intention of the leader. He has never shown any wavering in loving Ethiopia. Yes, one of the requirement to build socialism is an industrialized society or the country should be in the last stage of capitalism in order to fulfill the fundamental principle of socialism I quote "everyone works according to its ability and earns according to his needs" where peoples conscious is so high they do not have the need for individual belongings according to Marx.

However, for countries like Ethiopia, more than 90% of the tiny economy is based on agriculture and has no room for the proletariat to lead the nation and the revolution. There fore national democratic revolution was designed to bring the country to the highest level of industrialization. in order to do that the playground needs to be cleared by making swift and decisive reform. Those actions and the hidden agenda of some groups cause unprecedented opposition from inside and outside. The Ethiopian army was equipped with backward weapons and ideology to be the vanguard of the revolution. The opposition realized that Ethiopia is at its weakest point in her history. And they attacked the revolution from every direction.
The EDU operating from Sudan in collaboration with help to ELF, TPLF, OLF, EPRP tried tirelessly to Topel Mengistu and grab power unsuccessfully. In the south and southeast the OLF, IFLO, WSLF ( west Somali liberation front supported bay the late Said bare) declare open war against Ethiopia and reached till Dire Dawa. Killing innocent children, raping girls, and pregnant women. Their action was so brutal and savage most of Ethiopian ppls were requesting Mengistu to arm them.

Mengistu realizing that all of the Ethiopian armies were trained and armed by weapons from USA he decided to buy more weapons and gave USA $400 million dollars at that time. To make things even worth the Carter administration took the money and refused to supply the weapon in order to help EDU. The nationalist Mengistu request the help of the USSR and they respond quickly and supplied an armament worth close to 3 billion rubles. Mengistu declares the proclamation " everything to the war front" build a huge training camp Siga meda later ( tateq tore sefer) tolay , wurso and many others. Retrain about 70 000 regular armies on how to use the new soviet weapon and about 300 000 militias and marched in all direction. At first, they crashed the Somali invasion, the most historic one was the victory of Karamara, EDU, ELF, and EPRP from inside retreat to Asimba and joined TPLF but later they were destroyed by TPLF, and at last, the Sudan aggression was quelled.

Actually, Mengistu was shot on his groin and came out the next day on tv and make a speech and uplift the people's morale on the contrary to Meles zenawi who died by Abebe Gelaws voice imagine if he was shoot hahha. Look at the other TPLF's quarantined for the past two years. Now their own ppls are ready to eat them alive.

In short, if we take into consideration the tremendous opposition Mengistu faces be it social, ideological, economic, cultural, and literacy by far he was the most genius leader Ethiopia had. Yes, he has his flaws and it was said a lot about it in a profound way so I don't want to repeat it again here. I believe it was a mistake but the good thing he did outweigh his mistakes.

I want to add one more thing just for you to know. somehow my family was a victim of Mengistu's administration at the time. I was sixteen and i was arrested for two weeks at Mekelawi prison. I was with Dejazmach asegagn and his groups in cell number 5. sisay nigusu he was my Amharic teacher yo never know who met there, Hagbes the owner of Hagbes international company, At that time Asefa chamo, aba biya , .they were in cell six. In cell number 8 thee were ELF and TPLF war prisoners about twenty of them. They have no visitors. Those of us who have families and visitors contribute one pack of food from every cell and will give them. Since i was the youngest among the prisoners I used to deliver the food to them for a week. They were not allowed to join the general public of the prison so when they come out for exercise we will get locked in but we could see them only through the grills. My dad had 4 hectare ( gasha) coffee farm in Sidamo and in Ejere taken by the land reform. I moved didn't feel very bad about it probably i was released quickly without any much suffering i don't know
over there I met members of
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