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Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Misraq » 27 May 2020, 09:50

Happy birthday brother Menge. Long live

You lived long enough to witness coward agame running tail behind legs. Hang on there, buddy and you will see more shortly :mrgreen:

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Sadacha Macca » 27 May 2020, 10:04

shout outs to him for playing a role in dismantling the old shawan elitist system/monarchy. he did bad, but some good, as well!

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by tarik » 27 May 2020, 10:33

Misraq wrote:
27 May 2020, 09:50
Happy birthday brother Menge. Long live

You lived long enough to witness coward agame running tail behind legs. Hang on there, buddy and you will see more shortly :mrgreen:

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FKKK Galla MOZERFUCKER dengue and full u Galla Misraq and Galla sadacha mecca, slaves of donkeys. FKKK all cancer Ethiopia. Somebody need 2 put a bullet in his Galla head.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Lakeshore » 27 May 2020, 13:05

His love for Ethiopia is exemplary. I believe God keep him alive to see these days i.e the fall of agmes. He was elequant and determined. He has no tolerance for anyone perceived anti-Ethiopian. However, he has his flows since he was a military man and believed to solve everything by force and that was wrong.
His intent is genuinely for the poor and the nation.

Long live Mengistu he reminded me my childhood.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Eripoblikan » 27 May 2020, 13:22

Mengistu decimated at least 250,000 intellectuals and skilled civil servants that helped bring about the revolution of 1974. Mind you they are the ones who provided him with the ideology of Marxism-Leninism.

On top of that, he mercilessly killed his fellow generals for simply disagreeing with him. Aman Andom, Teferi Banti and Atnafu Abate come to mind.

And he was responsible for butchering civilians in Eritrea, Tigray, Ogaden, Wellega and other parts of Ethiopia under the pretext of supporting combatants.

Good intentions aside, Mengustu was one of the most power-hungry and blood-thirsty politicians Africa has seen.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Lakeshore » 28 May 2020, 08:58

Eripoblikan

I disagree completely. Every generation has to pay its share sacrifies to keep our country free and intact. Yes, most of the, Derg, party members were uneducated of democracy however, they were more advanced than the later agames. Saying that we have to look in that time frame. The revolution was not started by the military but by the intellectuals and students. when a power vacuum created the military stepped in and resume power. Then they form a coalition of parties called " Ethiopian Marxist Leninist leag" incorporating five different groups " Meson, echat , sudded and wezleag" during that time they were inexperienced and there power struggle between some of them. Among those groups, some are armed and had different agendas. Meson for instance lead by Haile Fida brought the Oromo separation agenda and started to kill opposing party members. Making every other party react in fear and self-defense. During that time Mengistu who was the member of sudded and many of its members from the military take advantage of their experience and organization to take the upper hand. Their first agenda was Ethiopian unity. After that, anyone who raised a separatist idea became the enemy of Derg. Aman amdom he is known for his arrogance tried to undermine the junior officers like Mengistu and brought the Eritrean separation agenda then he got eliminated. Teferi banti raises the Oromo separation and got eliminated. Atinafu abate , alemayehu haile involved with EPRP Edu and TPLF and EPLF and the Somali war and also they are called the fifth liners officially became enemy the derge.

my support for Mengistu is that under all these challenges and war he still managed to steer the country to prosperity while dismantling the monarch and the feudal system. On top of that, the Americans imperialism as he called them posed the ultimate opposition so that they pushed him to declare socialism and get help from the USSR

I simply called that generous. despite all the internal and external opposition he managed to realize the land reform, literacy campaign, modernization of the country, for that matter most of the current industrial projects that agame tried to take credit for were planned and started during Mengistu. Thousands of engineers, doctors, surveyors, military personnel from poor families got a chance and sent to socialist countries with free scholarships. Free education, even after education a graduate shouldn't worry about getting a job because the job is waiting for him/her.
as the book says give caesar whatever it is his. Yes, many peoples especially young peoples lost their life. could it be done better yes but we should also see what was the alternatives? I heard about red terror a lot but who instigate it first the EPRP and EPLF they declare war in the city called white terror. they underestimate the power of the military and started to shoot elected kebele chairmen and some cadres. Then the decisive Mengistu declares red terror under the slogan " one commerade blood will be replaced by ten anarchist blood". And given the lower party members full power to arrest and kill. That was a mistake but again what was the alternative for the derg during the revolution. Still, his immediate action shows the leadership quality and love for his country. (which is a rear quality in the current one)
mistakes are made grave one but Mengistu keeps the country intact and lays the foundation for development that needs to recognize that is my point.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Eripoblikan » 28 May 2020, 13:57

Will you grow up and stop blaming Eritreans for your own failures?
present wrote:
28 May 2020, 13:47
Ascari Eritrean cockroach


We Ethiopians killed eachother before him. All out kings came to power the same way. He is not any different. Dr Abiy is trying to change that pattern now

Anyway he killed lots of cockroches, that is one reason we love him for!

He is our king, I know you have a good idea of how many million Ethiopians are crazy about him! :lol:

Well, we will soon see his statue in Addis. Who is going to stop us!

Ethiopians in general love the way he loves Ethiopia!




Eripoblikan wrote:
27 May 2020, 13:22
Mengistu decimated at least 250,000 intellectuals and skilled civil servants that helped bring about the revolution of 1974. Mind you they are the ones who provided him with the ideology of Marxism-Leninism.

On top of that, he mercilessly killed his fellow generals for simply disagreeing with him. Aman Andom, Teferi Banti and Atnafu Abate come to mind.

And he was responsible for butchering civilians in Eritrea, Tigray, Ogaden, Wellega and other parts of Ethiopia under the pretext of supporting combatants.

Good intentions aside, Mengustu was one of the most power-hungry and blood-thirsty politicians Africa has seen.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by tlel » 28 May 2020, 13:58

Lakeshore wrote:
27 May 2020, 13:05
His love for Ethiopia is exemplary. I believe God keep him alive to see these days i.e the fall of agmes. He was elequant and determined. He has no tolerance for anyone perceived anti-Ethiopian. However, he has his flows since he was a military man and believed to solve everything by force and that was wrong.
His intent is genuinely for the poor and the nation.

Long live Mengistu he reminded me my childhood.

Your logic is sick. You can't kill Ethiopians and say he is true Ethiopioan, really? Do you know it was Derg caused the rise and strength of Liberation Fronts? It is one thing to be staunch nationalist but another not to negotiate. Apparently he didn't learn from great diplomacy of Ase Minilik and Ase H/Selassie, they get sacrificed because they are soft. With Mengistu, there is nothing soft about him, even if he was agressive, he still lead ethiopia to disaster even in the end gave it to Liberation Fronts and left, so tell me, what is the positive he accomplished? NOTHING. He left the country to the hyenas, and yet boasting saying I will die for Ethiopia. Most Ethiopians are turning to eprp and Derg now because they think they will save them from debacle. Go back to your roots, unite and oust every party, we don't need any party, unite the country, bring back 14 or even more regions, tell every ethiopians, where ever you are develop the country economically, exercise your culture, and shut up. When you take a country more unecessary complicated situations, then the result is no surival. Look at Scandinavians, they have simple lives but they work hard, educate themselves (even when you educate yourself, you make sure you learn from good resulted education, not copy and pasted). Eprp, Derg, Tplf = communist education that killed billions in the world and today putting the creators of communist as world leader and does absolutely nothing to those converted to communists, poor dictatorship is the result.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Naga Tuma » 28 May 2020, 18:51

Eripoblikan wrote:
27 May 2020, 13:22
Mengistu decimated at least 250,000 intellectuals and skilled civil servants that helped bring about the revolution of 1974. Mind you they are the ones who provided him with the ideology of Marxism-Leninism.

On top of that, he mercilessly killed his fellow generals for simply disagreeing with him. Aman Andom, Teferi Banti and Atnafu Abate come to mind.

And he was responsible for butchering civilians in Eritrea, Tigray, Ogaden, Wellega and other parts of Ethiopia under the pretext of supporting combatants.

Good intentions aside, Mengustu was one of the most power-hungry and blood-thirsty politicians Africa has seen.
Are you able to attribute the tragic episode of Ethiopia between 1974 and 1991, one of many in its long history, to all parties that were on the scene or left behind during that period or are you just comfortable ranting out of Cadre Zone? If you are able to do the attribution, and I am guessing that you might have been active in the scene during that time in one way or another, do you take any responsibility, even if it might be 0.01%, for both the progresses and failures during that episode or only Colonel Menghistu is to take any credits and all the blames 100%?

Also, your lump sum statements here reminded me about individuals that I had heard about who were on the scene during that time: Drs. Senay Likke, Haile Fida, and Tesfaye Debesay, to mention a few. I googled the name of the first one after reading your lump sum statements here and I found the document at this link: The Ethiopian Revolution.

So, has your judgment taken into account expressed perspectives like what is written in this historical document? Your lump sum statements gave me an opportunity to come across this historical document for the first time. I thank you for that.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Lakeshore » 28 May 2020, 21:27

Naga Tuma,

Thank you for sharing the article " The Ethiopian revolution by Senaye likke" it was very telling of the situation at that time frame.

It shows how the anti-Ethiopian group attacked the revolution coordinately from every direction at its infancy by keeping their difference aside because of few foreign aids. They also thought Ethiopian is weak and every group saw an opportunity to advance their hidden agenda.

As the article shows in real-time Derg has brought a fundamental change in all aspects of life in Ethiopia. However, those remnants again supported by some foreign agents, like Egypt, Audi Arabia , Qatar, and Somalia mainly USA and Britian, TPLF and EL, sworn enemy of the Ethiopian ppl able to grab power and threaten our unity and integrity into question again.

As the article pointed out for every problem Derg faces they come up with a solution that participates all of the Ethiopian peoples, not only Amhara, Oromo, afar Somali, or others.

The same organization came to power again in current Ethiopia with different names like TPLF, OLF, West Somali front, IFLO, and OFECO supported by Arabs specifically Egypt and Sudan are trying for the second time to dismantle Ethiopia.

By know, most Ethiopian are aware of their intent and are waiting to vote them down if the election is not rigged. If that is not the case then another revolution will be inevitable. Mercenaries can not hold ppls will by the mussel of a gun.

In conclusion, despite the staggering opposition Derg faced, they were second to Minelike in contributing to social, cultural, and economic prosperity to the masses of Ethiopian people. Where people were proud to call themselves Ethiopian and leave and work everywhere in Ethiopia. Free health care was realized during the Derg. Muslims celebrate their holidays officially started during Derg. Regional Autonomy was realized during Derg later each provinces had its own administration represented in parliament. Huge power plants, weapon factories Cement factories built by Derg. Later TPLF divides the regions based on race and called it federalism and used it to undermine others and build Tigray only and steal all the resources from the other regions.

One act of the TPLF that depicts its true un Ethiopian nature is that After they came to power by the help of Egypt, USA, and Britain they did return the extra houses in cities and lands nationalized during derg to their owners in Tigri only. But they didn't return in other parts of Ethiopia. from the very get-go, these parasites were crooks they after looting Ethiopia and benefiting themselves.

The current opposition to the criminals in mekele supposed to be obvious and should happen the moment the criminals run away and hide to the axum hotels. People of that place should show opposition to these criminals but they didn't because they thought they might still benefit from it.

They don't believe in the change that is happening in Ethiopia, rather they protest in support of them. I know many individuals told me how strong TPLF is and will destroy the whole Africa if provoked and they bought into self-deception and couldn't see their demise.

What i suggest to Abiy is that not to support any group in Tigray let them fight TPLF by themselves and prove to us that they genuinely detest TPLF otherwise from their nature they infiltrate any struggle in order to save their and their family.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by kibramlak » 28 May 2020, 22:55

Lakeshore,

Well articulated with excellent summary of the facts. To add one very important quality of Mengistu, he never discriminated between north and south, east and west within his power chains. How about his anti-corruption stance ? I think even in our current time no Ethiopian leaders of recent time could equate him. The ones who diabolise him are also the most cruel ones who killed hundreds of thousands, by far bigger than what he did with red terror. When I reflect as an adult man now, Ethiopia has missed one of its pearl with the best leadership trait. As a country what did Ethiopia get since then? Bunch of narrow minded anti Ethiopian elements (tplf) followed by the current one which we sometimes get confused whether a paster is leading.

I am really glad for him that he is alive to see the downfall of the anti Ethiopian tplf and his prophecic words would remain in the center of Ethiopian history when he predicted what damage the anti Ethiopian elements would BRI g to the country. And if I compare him with his own time, there was no any one who could equate him. I wish he could come back again and give a lesson to all of these anti Ethiopian elements who brought socio economic miseries on top of the viscious political crisis which won't be solved any time soon.

God give him more long years !
Lakeshore wrote:
28 May 2020, 08:58
Eripoblikan

I disagree completely. Every generation has to pay its share sacrifies to keep our country free and intact. Yes, most of the, Derg, party members were uneducated of democracy however, they were more advanced than the later agames. Saying that we have to look in that time frame. The revolution was not started by the military but by the intellectuals and students. when a power vacuum created the military stepped in and resume power. Then they form a coalition of parties called " Ethiopian Marxist Leninist leag" incorporating five different groups " Meson, echat , sudded and wezleag" during that time they were inexperienced and there power struggle between some of them. Among those groups, some are armed and had different agendas. Meson for instance lead by Haile Fida brought the Oromo separation agenda and started to kill opposing party members. Making every other party react in fear and self-defense. During that time Mengistu who was the member of sudded and many of its members from the military take advantage of their experience and organization to take the upper hand. Their first agenda was Ethiopian unity. After that, anyone who raised a separatist idea became the enemy of Derg. Aman amdom he is known for his arrogance tried to undermine the junior officers like Mengistu and brought the Eritrean separation agenda then he got eliminated. Teferi banti raises the Oromo separation and got eliminated. Atinafu abate , alemayehu haile involved with EPRP Edu and TPLF and EPLF and the Somali war and also they are called the fifth liners officially became enemy the derge.

my support for Mengistu is that under all these challenges and war he still managed to steer the country to prosperity while dismantling the monarch and the feudal system. On top of that, the Americans imperialism as he called them posed the ultimate opposition so that they pushed him to declare socialism and get help from the USSR

I simply called that generous. despite all the internal and external opposition he managed to realize the land reform, literacy campaign, modernization of the country, for that matter most of the current industrial projects that agame tried to take credit for were planned and started during Mengistu. Thousands of engineers, doctors, surveyors, military personnel from poor families got a chance and sent to socialist countries with free scholarships. Free education, even after education a graduate shouldn't worry about getting a job because the job is waiting for him/her.
as the book says give caesar whatever it is his. Yes, many peoples especially young peoples lost their life. could it be done better yes but we should also see what was the alternatives? I heard about red terror a lot but who instigate it first the EPRP and EPLF they declare war in the city called white terror. they underestimate the power of the military and started to shoot elected kebele chairmen and some cadres. Then the decisive Mengistu declares red terror under the slogan " one commerade blood will be replaced by ten anarchist blood". And given the lower party members full power to arrest and kill. That was a mistake but again what was the alternative for the derg during the revolution. Still, his immediate action shows the leadership quality and love for his country. (which is a rear quality in the current one)
mistakes are made grave one but Mengistu keeps the country intact and lays the foundation for development that needs to recognize that is my point.
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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Naga Tuma » 28 May 2020, 22:55

Lakeshore wrote:
28 May 2020, 21:27
Naga Tuma,

Thank you for sharing the article " The Ethiopian revolution by Senaye likke" it was very telling of the situation at that time frame.

It shows how the anti-Ethiopian group attacked the revolution coordinately from every direction at its infancy by keeping their difference aside because of few foreign aids. They also thought Ethiopian is weak and every group saw an opportunity to advance their hidden agenda.

As the article shows in real-time Derg has brought a fundamental change in all aspects of life in Ethiopia. However, those remnants again supported by some foreign agents, like Egypt, Audi Arabia , Qatar, and Somalia mainly USA and Britian, TPLF and EL, sworn enemy of the Ethiopian ppl able to grab power and threaten our unity and integrity into question again.

As the article pointed out for every problem Derg faces they come up with a solution that participates all of the Ethiopian peoples, not only Amhara, Oromo, afar Somali, or others.

The same organization came to power again in current Ethiopia with different names like TPLF, OLF, West Somali front, IFLO, and OFECO supported by Arabs specifically Egypt and Sudan are trying for the second time to dismantle Ethiopia.

By know, most Ethiopian are aware of their intent and are waiting to vote them down if the election is not rigged. If that is not the case then another revolution will be inevitable. Mercenaries can not hold ppls will by the mussel of a gun.

In conclusion, despite the staggering opposition Derg faced, they were second to Minelike in contributing to social, cultural, and economic prosperity to the masses of Ethiopian people. Where people were proud to call themselves Ethiopian and leave and work everywhere in Ethiopia. Free health care was realized during the Derg. Muslims celebrate their holidays officially started during Derg. Regional Autonomy was realized during Derg later each provinces had its own administration represented in parliament. Huge power plants, weapon factories Cement factories built by Derg. Later TPLF divides the regions based on race and called it federalism and used it to undermine others and build Tigray only and steal all the resources from the other regions.

One act of the TPLF that depicts its true un Ethiopian nature is that After they came to power by the help of Egypt, USA, and Britain they did return the extra houses in cities and lands nationalized during derg to their owners in Tigri only. But they didn't return in other parts of Ethiopia. from the very get-go, these parasites were crooks they after looting Ethiopia and benefiting themselves.

The current opposition to the criminals in mekele supposed to be obvious and should happen the moment the criminals run away and hide to the axum hotels. People of that place should show opposition to these criminals but they didn't because they thought they might still benefit from it.

They don't believe in the change that is happening in Ethiopia, rather they protest in support of them. I know many individuals told me how strong TPLF is and will destroy the whole Africa if provoked and they bought into self-deception and couldn't see their demise.

What i suggest to Abiy is that not to support any group in Tigray let them fight TPLF by themselves and prove to us that they genuinely detest TPLF otherwise from their nature they infiltrate any struggle in order to save their and their family.
Lakeshore,

When I say tragedy, I mean tragedy. If you haven't gotten it, get it. If you can't, get off your horse of blaming those who came before you are the devils and asserting that you are an angel. Grownups have learned to ask more the judgment of anybody than his or her motive. I just hope that that kind of political inculcation and the people that still gallop on that kind of horse either grow up and see the merits and demerits of any undertaking side by side or retire sooner than later from that kind of unnatural and unhealthy political preaching.

I could poke so many holes in the paper I came across for the first time today, even after reading it only once. When people start to practice theory, it is called when the rubber meets the road. In one local parlance, it is called ከበሮ ስያዪት ያምር፣ ስይዙት ያደናግር። In another, it is called አከ አበሉተን ስርባን ሞርመ ነመ ጨብሰ (እንደ እከሌ እስክስታ እመታለሁ ማለት ኣንገት ይሰብራል።)

Making a difference between ambition and reality takes a lot of experience. The rubber meeting the road was screeching for many years in Ethiopia during that period and after that as well.

I could read well meaning ambitions, realistic practices such as expanding education to remote corners of the country, and historically unforgivable mistakes in the paper, at least in my judgment.

Even then, all of that evidently was coming from a class of Ethiopians. The class as a whole, along with its former supporters, deserves to be criticized or credited for all its failures and contributions. This article presents an inescapable exhibit for this point, my main point here.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by tlel » 29 May 2020, 01:22

Lakeshore,

After listening to by the name B/General Hailu Berawerk, video I just saw, your eyes will open. Basically, Ethiopia ate eachother starting the down fall of the Monarchy. The story is so sickening how each betrayed and ate eachother prior to the Liberation Fronts. go listen to this interview. sooooo sad

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Sabur » 29 May 2020, 06:54


Naga Tuma:

You wish Eritreans, even honest Ethiopians for that matter, to fall for the gibberish and fabrications of Senai Likke about Eritrea's Quest and Struggle for Independence (pg. 16 and 17).

When will it stop this charade of re-writing history based on fabrications.

Suffice it to say that "Forget your fabricated History, Man makes History and Eritreans Made History !!"

By the Way, the current expansionist Ethiopia is less than 120 yrs old country.



Naga Tuma wrote:
28 May 2020, 18:51
Eripoblikan wrote:
27 May 2020, 13:22
Mengistu decimated at least 250,000 intellectuals and skilled civil servants that helped bring about the revolution of 1974. Mind you they are the ones who provided him with the ideology of Marxism-Leninism.

On top of that, he mercilessly killed his fellow generals for simply disagreeing with him. Aman Andom, Teferi Banti and Atnafu Abate come to mind.

And he was responsible for butchering civilians in Eritrea, Tigray, Ogaden, Wellega and other parts of Ethiopia under the pretext of supporting combatants.

Good intentions aside, Mengustu was one of the most power-hungry and blood-thirsty politicians Africa has seen.
Are you able to attribute the tragic episode of Ethiopia between 1974 and 1991, one of many in its long history, to all parties that were on the scene or left behind during that period or are you just comfortable ranting out of Cadre Zone? If you are able to do the attribution, and I am guessing that you might have been active in the scene during that time in one way or another, do you take any responsibility, even if it might be 0.01%, for both the progresses and failures during that episode or only Colonel Menghistu is to take any credits and all the blames 100%?

Also, your lump sum statements here reminded me about individuals that I had heard about who were on the scene during that time: Drs. Senay Likke, Haile Fida, and Tesfaye Debesay, to mention a few. I googled the name of the first one after reading your lump sum statements here and I found the document at this link: The Ethiopian Revolution.

So, has your judgment taken into account expressed perspectives like what is written in this historical document? Your lump sum statements gave me an opportunity to come across this historical document for the first time. I thank you for that.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 29 May 2020, 16:15

The Man who singlehandedly started the disintegration of Ethiopia is eulogized and worshiped by biased Ethiopians who interpret history as it suit them. Let his eminence start with reality check. having good will or making an attempt are not parameters on which you can evaluate the performance of a political leader, in the end of the day, what matter is result, result result. When this is the case, What did the son of the slave Mengistu achieve to be praised and glorified by some narrow minded Ethiopians? Absolutely nothing.

The Soviet Union was generous to provide technical know how to all its satellite states but Mengistu was just a stupid negro to take advantage of this opportunity. Smart vassal states of the Soviet Union mimicked Stalin style industrialization of their country. Some took advantage to build their own nuclear plan or produce AK47 in their own country under the license. But the Negro was content with the donation of second world war tanks and artillery and rifles. Students who enrolled 12th grade during the Derg are ignorant and dumb, they can't even solve basic mathematics. This is the achievement of this dumb negro Mengistu Haile Mariam.

BTW. Mengistu used to boast that running out of Ethiopia was not an option but he would rather mimic Emperor Theodros and blow his head and commit suicide. But as we know, the negro run away from Ethiopia the sooner it got hot. This is Mengistu.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Lakeshore » 29 May 2020, 19:35

I think you are mistaken about what you are saying. We are the living proof those in the past 20 years are the ones who bought fake degrees including your leader Debretsion it is very hard for me to call him Dr. because i know him personally even spent significant time training him and others for 7 weeks. I saw him the day they arrived in Addis Ababa. He has been assigned to work under a TPLF guy called Issayas woldegiorgis in the pervious internal security agency office for a few months located around the army hospital close to the old airport. You might not know that because you came from the jungle or [deleted].

From my evaluation and some conversation, with him he was their radio technician. He told me that when they bought a communication radio the purchase came with training and he was trained for a month how to use that communication radio.

After we gave them a tour of all the equipment and showed them how the system works. He approached me and asked if I can explain to him and a few others in more detail and I agreed. After a few days, there were about 10 peoples came to be trained in the operative undertakings, espionage and counterintelligence
among them Debretsion, Aranshi, Measho, Ahemedin hagos, Wedi belay, Gebremedihin who is killed, Isayas woldegiorgis, hassan shifa . It lasts for about 7 weeks. The bigest challenge was that they had no background what so ever. lack of technical terms , basic circuit theory, basics of radio communication, i have to explain every thecnical word and also terminologies. Some of them got overwhelmed and quit training. Among them yes Debretsion had a better understanding of the fundamental theories beside that he was also the same.

After all this, few months later he called me to his office and asked me what do you think he should i study in AA university? buy the time he already registered in the second years of electrical engineering in Amist killo in the evening program. Before i say anything he told me. I was shocked because i didn't know how he is going to do it without any maths like calculus, differential equation, vector, and high school physics and chemistry.
in there month time he moved to third year and then i understand he just need the paper.

The reason why i explained is to show you that the agames who destroy every academic honor in the country. On top of that, they have to courage to call themselves educated.

So spare the accusation of the academic integrity of the derg. It is the agames who falsify everything including their identity as Eritrean. In the early years of TPLF most of agames i know some still claimed to be eritrean, they even say they born in asmara from agame family. after the ethio eritrea war they flip floped back to be agame.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Naga Tuma » 29 May 2020, 22:05

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
29 May 2020, 16:15
The Man who singlehandedly started the disintegration of Ethiopia is eulogized and worshiped by biased Ethiopians who interpret history as it suit them. Let his eminence start with reality check. having good will or making an attempt are not parameters on which you can evaluate the performance of a political leader, in the end of the day, what matter is result, result result. When this is the case, What did the son of the slave Mengistu achieve to be praised and glorified by some narrow minded Ethiopians? Absolutely nothing.

The Soviet Union was generous to provide technical know how to all its satellite states but Mengistu was just a stupid negro to take advantage of this opportunity. Smart vassal states of the Soviet Union mimicked Stalin style industrialization of their country. Some took advantage to build their own nuclear plan or produce AK47 in their own country under the license. But the Negro was content with the donation of second world war tanks and artillery and rifles. Students who enrolled 12th grade during the Derg are ignorant and dumb, they can't even solve basic mathematics. This is the achievement of this dumb negro Mengistu Haile Mariam.

BTW. Mengistu used to boast that running out of Ethiopia was not an option but he would rather mimic Emperor Theodros and blow his head and commit suicide. But as we know, the negro run away from Ethiopia the sooner it got hot. This is Mengistu.
Deqi-Arawit,

I have engaged you before and I did not want to engage you again because I did not and do not enjoy [deleted]-for-tat. But you are forcing me here to do so once more. You have remained the same bull unashamed to call himself his eminence endlessly. I know neither you nor hmantes personally. But I have engaged both of you on this forum in the past and have never heard him call himself his eminence. He earned my highest respect even when we disagreed. He earned my highest respect because the power of reason overpowers what his faculty may have harbored before he meets a new power of reason. Unlike his, your faculty seems to be ossified in its own already formed world, whether that is rational or irrational or a mix of both.

If Africa is to rise, it can't rise out of half-cooked faculties. You have all the reasons to be sad because of what happened in Eritrea during Colonel Menghistu's time, whether he is to shoulder all or part of the blame. That is well understood. But you have no right to force on others your irrational fantasy and self-destructive preaching.

I am guessing that you went to school in Ethiopia and learned from the curriculum that was laid down by HM who worked with the best schools in the U.S. and U.K. to do so, if my limited reading about it serves me right. Instead of building on that, some of the beneficiaries of that competitive curriculum condemned HM in absolute terms and drove the country into a political turmoil for years. As I noted earlier, the document by Dr. Senay Likke is a historical exhibit.

I am a living witness both in Ethiopia and the U.S. that the curriculum that HM laid down didn't evaporate overnight because of Colonel Menghistu. During all the years when he was in power, Ethiopian School Leaving Certificate Examinations were held. If there is any rationality in your faculty about results, there are about 17 years of Ethiopia's national matriculation, including in Math, and results from every high school in Ethiopia that administered it during that time. It only takes to sample those exams and compare how competitive they were and how many students did well enough to pass them. I don't think Colonel Menghistu had as much hand in the competitiveness of those exams as did HM.

I am also a beneficiary of an elementary school that was opened near a village where I was a kid in the early days of the revolution and was able to complete elementary school in four years on merit. I am not biased because of that.

I grew up hearing his speeches about his love for Ethiopia. I only question the irrationality about it when the lack of due process was blatantly evident. So, when you try to insult everybody's intelligence that he is the 'man who singlehandedly [sic] started the disintegration of Ethiopia," I tell you that your irrationality there is unfathomable.

He has been wrongly accused for his heritage, including by those who harbor their own inferiority complexes. As much as there are Eritreans on this forum that I respect for getting rid of that inferiority complex, empirical evidence suggests that it afflicts your types disproportionately. I hope you will be able to be free from it before you go to your grave.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by Zmeselo » 29 May 2020, 23:50

Ethiopia would've been way better off today, had the Neway Brothers succeeded in ousting the Emperor in the '50's rather than Mengie in the '70's.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by kibramlak » 30 May 2020, 01:15

Mengistu the disintegrater?? Lol

All the fvcked up so called leaders who came after him in Ethiopia and the neighboring countries included never equate this patriotic iron man. I could say a lot but dont want to harm other genuinely thinking Eritreans.

If Mengistu is a negro, you too are. Dont forget that.

By the way discrediting any of his achievements reminded me what some other African naive people discrediting the battle of Adwa ...... All a loughing stock

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
29 May 2020, 16:15
The Man who singlehandedly started the disintegration of Ethiopia is eulogized and worshiped by biased Ethiopians who interpret history as it suit them. Let his eminence start with reality check. having good will or making an attempt are not parameters on which you can evaluate the performance of a political leader, in the end of the day, what matter is result, result result. When this is the case, What did the son of the slave Mengistu achieve to be praised and glorified by some narrow minded Ethiopians? Absolutely nothing.

The Soviet Union was generous to provide technical know how to all its satellite states but Mengistu was just a stupid negro to take advantage of this opportunity. Smart vassal states of the Soviet Union mimicked Stalin style industrialization of their country. Some took advantage to build their own nuclear plan or produce AK47 in their own country under the license. But the Negro was content with the donation of second world war tanks and artillery and rifles. Students who enrolled 12th grade during the Derg are ignorant and dumb, they can't even solve basic mathematics. This is the achievement of this dumb negro Mengistu Haile Mariam.

BTW. Mengistu used to boast that running out of Ethiopia was not an option but he would rather mimic Emperor Theodros and blow his head and commit suicide. But as we know, the negro run away from Ethiopia the sooner it got hot. This is Mengistu.

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Re: Menge celebrating his 79 Birthday

Post by simbe11 » 30 May 2020, 01:56

With all the bad things he might had done, the good things out weigh.
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