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Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 04 May 2020, 12:29

Election in Tigray nation must be held on schedule per the constitution tie us together for the last 30 years, regardless what Abiy and Issayas say or other ethnics, Tigray must go ahead because everything about Tigray will tell the world who we are as Tigrayans period.

We heard many times Sebhat Nega cares for the north Tigray people at the same time we have witnessed he blocked the ultimate solution for their nightmares for the last 20 years. The same can be said for Debretsion, he invited them many times the rest of Tigray is their home and you are welcome but I have not seen any kind of strategy and plan to expedite to end their pain and all Tigray ethnic pain.

Debretsion main task to plan and strategize is to invite all Agaazians and bright future around the world Tegaru to come to Tigray and let them organize and work with you and they can save you huge amount of time and resources in the long ran and this is what Tigray best investment the present and future Tigray ethnic and the other ethnics who live north of Angareb river and Alowuha Melash to garnish and enjoy centuries to come. Let them come and unite the divided Tigray ethnic peacefully and the Tigray ethnic controls their destination and focus how to regain all our looted lands from Angareb or Atbara river to Alowuha Melash. This makes you a giant founder modern Tigray nation and all Woyenti will make them the special era of Tigrayans in the history book. No other things you should think and do specially about Ethiopia, that is not our country but Tigray can play huge role to dismantle and let each ethnic form their nations and it will be very easy for Tigray nation to deal business with each individual than with the enemy Amhara. This was where you and all Woyane made huge mistakes three to five years ago.

The worst thing you can do is wait and see until events fall on your head and punch your bloody nose and your tongue tell you Tigray is in danger after you tested your running blood to your mouth, this is what Debretsion and the veteran leaders of Woyane did three years ago and learn from your mistakes and never repeat them again.



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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 04 May 2020, 12:46

The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they died with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.
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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by pushkin » 04 May 2020, 12:56


Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:46
The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they dead with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.

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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by sebdoyeley » 04 May 2020, 13:07

Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:46
The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they dead with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.
Halafi, it is very hard to wake up a dead creature, weyane was dead the day they picked up a fight with the very person who created them, so Halafi, come down and drink some cold, if you have some, the people you shouted is already kissed goodbye to their surrounding and reached to the invisible man in heaven or hell. :lol: :lol:
If I was you Halafi, I would dust off myself and pack up my laptop and scan the area around me then jump from higher place to visit the people who lied to me for long time. and ask them, If they have the MALELIT manifesto files.

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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 05 May 2020, 01:37

This is it all the talks of 5000 years civilization and heroism to show the world, we were the fourth super nation and the first currency introduced and we were printing currency for other nations. No more Menelik rope to pull us back words, we must move forward.



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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 05 May 2020, 01:48

Our bright future is securing our freedom and an independent nation, no more bickering with Amhara drugged us backwards for 120 years.



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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Follower » 05 May 2020, 05:16

Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:29

We heard many times Sebhat Nega cares for the north Tigray people at the same time we have witnessed he blocked the ultimate solution for their nightmares for the last 20 years. The same can be said for Debretsion, he invited them many times the rest of Tigray is their home and you are welcome but I have not seen any kind of strategy and plan to expedite to end their pain and all Tigray ethnic pain.

Debretsion main task to plan and strategize is to invite all Agaazians and bright future around the world Tegaru to come to Tigray and let them organize and work with you and they can save you huge amount of time and resources in the long ran and this is what Tigray best investment the present and future Tigray ethnic and the other ethnics who live north of Angareb river and Alowuha Melash to garnish and enjoy centuries to come. Let them come and unite the divided Tigray ethnic peacefully and the Tigray ethnic controls their destination and focus how to regain all our looted lands from Angareb or Atbara river to Alowuha Melash. This makes you a giant founder modern Tigray nation and all Woyenti will make them the special era of Tigrayans in the history book. No other things you should think and do specially about Ethiopia, that is not our country but Tigray can play huge role to dismantle and let each ethnic form their nations and it will be very easy for Tigray nation to deal business with each individual than with the enemy Amhara. This was where you and all Woyane made huge mistakes three to five years ago.

The worst thing you can do is wait and see until events fall on your head and punch your bloody nose and your tongue tell you Tigray is in danger after you tested your running blood to your mouth, this is what Debretsion and the veteran leaders of Woyane did three years ago and learn from your mistakes and never repeat them again.

ኣይተ ላፍላፊ ኣድጊ,ብልብኻ ዲኻ ኤርትራውያን በዚ ናይካ ሃጠው ቀጠው ተዓሻሽዮም እንደገና ስረ ከዕጥቁካ ትሓልም ዘለኻ?ቅበጽ/ተበራበር ዑጉመይ ዝሓለፈ ዘዕጠቅናኩም'ኳ ዮግህየና ኣሎ።,ወይ መዓንጣ ጌርካ ምውጋእ ወይ ከኣ እሺ ጌታይ ኢልካ ተበልጺግካ ምንባር፡ሓገዝ ኤርትራውያን ከም ጡብ እኖኹም ቅበጽዎ።ዙሩጋት መዓንጣ፡ኩሉ ግዜ ኣኣብ ዝተመድመደልኩም ምስፋሕ ኣይኮነን,በይንክን ዉጸኣ ደኣ ሎምስ።
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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 05 May 2020, 08:41

Why you bring the sore nose Bereket Simmon???

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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Aurorae » 05 May 2020, 09:22

Halafi,


You have a meaningless life. You have been wasting your brain cells for a long time over something that is impossible to achieve. Eritrea is a sovereign country with 1000 kms of coastal lines. There is no such thing as bahri tigray unless you are talking about the litte lake in Wuqro :lol: .There are only two groups of actors in Eritrea. Government supporters and reform or change of government seekers. Noting else matters in Eritrea. Tigray's problem is how to adjust or make a transition for TPLF from central government to regional government and secure Tigrays place in Ethiopia. Ethiopia will never be dissolved for it is very impractical to do so. Both Western and Eastern powers love Ethiopia the way it is. Africans see Ethiopia as the vanguard nation for the continent. Worst yet, there is no accepted boundary lines between the regional players in Ethiopia. Tigray itself is bitterly engaged with the amhara nation as to where the border should be. In other words, Tigray is stuck in Ethiopia. If you feel like you are being raped, you might as well learn to enjoy it. Almost all of Tigrayans see themselves as Ethiopians. Stop wasting your life for something that is not there.

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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by wegri » 05 May 2020, 11:17

Aurorae wrote:
05 May 2020, 09:22
Halafi,


You have a meaningless life. You have been wasting your brain cells for a long time over something that is impossible to achieve. Eritrea is a sovereign country with 1000 kms of coastal lines. There is no such thing as bahri tigray unless you are talking about the litte lake in Wuqro :lol: .There are only two groups of actors in Eritrea. Government supporters and reform or change of government seekers. Noting else matters in Eritrea. Tigray's problem is how to adjust or make a transition for TPLF from central government to regional government and secure Tigrays place in Ethiopia. Ethiopia will never be dissolved for it is very impractical to do so. Both Western and Eastern powers love Ethiopia the way it is. Africans see Ethiopia as the vanguard nation for the continent. Worst yet, there is no accepted boundary lines between the regional players in Ethiopia. Tigray itself is bitterly engaged with the amhara nation as to where the border should be. In other words, Tigray is stuck in Ethiopia. If you feel like you are being raped, you might as well learn to enjoy it. Almost all of Tigrayans see themselves as Ethiopians. Stop wasting your life for something that is not there.
Halafi Adghi,
Please listen to your brother, it's a good advice. :mrgreen:

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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Aurorae » 05 May 2020, 12:30

ወግሪ
አንታ ፈራሕ ኣድጊ ካን በቃ ደድሕረይ ከም ዑቡድ ከልቢ ክትነብሕ ድርባይ ሓላፊ ናትካ እምበር ናተይ ኣይኮነን ሕተቶ ክማኻ ቦቶ እዩ ሓንጎሉ Sh---it head :evil: :lol:

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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by wegri » 05 May 2020, 12:57

Aurorae wrote:
05 May 2020, 12:30
ወግሪ
አንታ ፈራሕ ኣድጊ ካን በቃ ደድሕረይ ከም ዑቡድ ከልቢ ክትነብሕ ድርባይ ሓላፊ ናትካ እምበር ናተይ ኣይኮነን ሕተቶ ክማኻ ቦቶ እዩ ሓንጎሉ Sh---it head :evil: :lol:
Did I say something wrong? Why are you so mad? I just told him to listen to his brother. BTW, you gave him a good advice. :lol: :lol:

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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by YAY » 05 May 2020, 13:40

Dear Halafi Mengedi: The "Sea" of Tigraiy is known as White Sea, and not Red Sea

Some times you get carried away with your perceptions. Just because you said something you desire your statement to be taken as truth. You are trying to distribute fake information, and it definitely is not going to work for you. You are trying to create Bahri Tigraiy, and you could but it is not going to be the Red Sea. Bahri Tigraiy is not red. It is the White Sea.

Bahri Tigraiy is called Lake Hashengee.
The British explorer Henry Salt, who notes that the Tigrinya name of the lake is Tsada Bahri ("White Sea")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ashenge
No matter who possessed or defended the Red Sea in the past, it is now Eritrean and not Tigraiy's. That is the fact, and legal. You cannot show us any proof that Tigraiy ever existed for 5000 years. Tigraiy is south of the Mareb River and west of the Dankalia region and east of the Takkeze River. And Tigraiy, as a social or political unit, is different than the Aksumite Kingdom or Empire. Please don't confuse yourself or confuse others.

There are Tigrawian ethnic groups in north Tigraiy--i.e. south of the Mareb River--and north of Tigraiy is Eritrea and every ethnic group in Eritrea is Eritrean. Ginbar Weyyane Tigraiy has tried hard to fracture and divide the Eritrean people into several groups and has failed miserably. ShaEbiyya was not an ethnic organization, did not fight against any particular ethnic group anywhere, and fought for the independence of Eritrea as a whole as well for the implementation of its National Democratic Program.

Not the Red Sea, but TsaEda Bahri (or "Bahri Tigraiy" if you want to name it that) is Tigraiy's Sea. It is 20 sq. Kms. big, and that all yours.
Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:46
The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they died with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.
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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 05 May 2020, 17:07

Eritreans were evicted from our land Tigray at the end of second world war.
YAY wrote:
05 May 2020, 13:40
Dear Halafi Mengedi: The "Sea" of Tigraiy is known as White Sea, and not Red Sea

Some times you get carried away with your perceptions. Just because you said something you desire your statement to be taken as truth. You are trying to distribute fake information, and it definitely is not going to work for you. You are trying to create Bahri Tigraiy, and you could but it is not going to be the Red Sea. Bahri Tigraiy is not red. It is the White Sea.

Bahri Tigraiy is called Lake Hashengee.
The British explorer Henry Salt, who notes that the Tigrinya name of the lake is Tsada Bahri ("White Sea")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ashenge
No matter who possessed or defended the Red Sea in the past, it is now Eritrean and not Tigraiy's. That is the fact, and legal. You cannot show us any proof that Tigraiy ever existed for 5000 years. Tigraiy is south of the Mareb River and west of the Takkeze River. And as social or political unit is different than the Aksumite Kingdom or Empire. Please don't confuse yourself or confuse others.

There are Tigrawian ethnic groups in north Tigraiy--i.e. south of the Mareb River--and north of Tigraiy is Eritrea and every ethnic group in Eritrea is Eritrean. Ginbar Weyyane Tigraiy has tried hard to fracture and divide the Eritrean people into several groups and has failed miserably. ShaEbiyya was not an ethnic organization, did not fight against any particular ethnic group anywhere, and fought for the independence of Eritrea as a whole as well for the implementation of its National Democratic Program.

Not the Red Sea, but TsaEda Bahri (or "Bahri Tigraiy" if you want to name it that) is Tigraiy's Sea. It is 20 sq. Kms. big, and that all yours.
Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:46
The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they died with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.

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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Aurorae » 05 May 2020, 17:17

Wegri,

Stop craving my attention. I beg you :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Final exam for woyane: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 05 May 2020, 18:21

Aurorae wrote:
05 May 2020, 09:22
Halafi,


You have a meaningless life. You have been wasting your brain cells for a long time over something that is impossible to achieve. Eritrea is a sovereign country with 1000 kms of coastal lines. There is no such thing as bahri tigray unless you are talking about the litte lake in Wuqro :lol: .There are only two groups of actors in Eritrea. Government supporters and reform or change of government seekers. Noting else matters in Eritrea. Tigray's problem is how to adjust or make a transition for TPLF from central government to regional government and secure Tigrays place in Ethiopia. Ethiopia will never be dissolved for it is very impractical to do so. Both Western and Eastern powers love Ethiopia the way it is. Africans see Ethiopia as the vanguard nation for the continent. Worst yet, there is no accepted boundary lines between the regional players in Ethiopia. Tigray itself is bitterly engaged with the amhara nation as to where the border should be. In other words, Tigray is stuck in Ethiopia. If you feel like you are being raped, you might as well learn to enjoy it. Almost all of Tigrayans see themselves as Ethiopians. Stop wasting your life for something that is not there.
I am talking Bahri Tigray not your life. Who cares about anyone's life, you conduct your life the way you want it but Bahri Tigray belongs to all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics who live north of Agareb river and Alowuha Melash.

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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by sun » 05 May 2020, 18:29

Hmm... :P

What do you mean when you say Tigrai is known as "White Sea" when I see NO White Sea or the Red Sea within the context in which they are mentioned in here but only see nothing but No Sea.


“There is one spectacle grander than the sea, that is the sky; there is one spectacle grander than the sky, that is the interior of the soul.”
~Victor Hugo, Les Misérables
:P
YAY wrote:
05 May 2020, 13:40
Dear Halafi Mengedi: The "Sea" of Tigraiy is known as White Sea, and not Red Sea

Some times you get carried away with your perceptions. Just because you said something you desire your statement to be taken as truth. You are trying to distribute fake information, and it definitely is not going to work for you. You are trying to create Bahri Tigraiy, and you could but it is not going to be the Red Sea. Bahri Tigraiy is not red. It is the White Sea.

Bahri Tigraiy is called Lake Hashengee.
The British explorer Henry Salt, who notes that the Tigrinya name of the lake is Tsada Bahri ("White Sea")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ashenge
No matter who possessed or defended the Red Sea in the past, it is now Eritrean and not Tigraiy's. That is the fact, and legal. You cannot show us any proof that Tigraiy ever existed for 5000 years. Tigraiy is south of the Mareb River and west of the Dankalia region and east of the Takkeze River. And Tigraiy, as a social or political unit, is different than the Aksumite Kingdom or Empire. Please don't confuse yourself or confuse others.

There are Tigrawian ethnic groups in north Tigraiy--i.e. south of the Mareb River--and north of Tigraiy is Eritrea and every ethnic group in Eritrea is Eritrean. Ginbar Weyyane Tigraiy has tried hard to fracture and divide the Eritrean people into several groups and has failed miserably. ShaEbiyya was not an ethnic organization, did not fight against any particular ethnic group anywhere, and fought for the independence of Eritrea as a whole as well for the implementation of its National Democratic Program.

Not the Red Sea, but TsaEda Bahri (or "Bahri Tigraiy" if you want to name it that) is Tigraiy's Sea. It is 20 sq. Kms. big, and that all yours.
Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:46
The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they died with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.

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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by YAY » 05 May 2020, 18:37

Dear Halafi Mengedi: Please explain what you are saying

Italians were defeated by the Allied (mainly British) forces and left Eritrea. The "native" people were known as indigini, the indigenous, and the colonizers were known as Italians in Eritrea until the 1930s. After that anyone, of any previous nationality, who was permanent resident of Eritrea was offered the opportunity to be a citizen of colonized Eritrea, if (s)he chooses. The king of Tigraiy (King Kahssaiy Mirtcha/Miratch, who later became Emperor Yohannes IV of Etiyopiya), for a period of time between 1872 and 1889 invaded, conquered, by force of military power, and made certain regions (not the whole territory) of what is now Eritrea part of his domain. Like Italian conquest did not change Eritrea into the permanent territory of Italy proper, so the fact that a King of Tigraiy's conquest does not change Medri Bahri, or Eritrea, into the permanent land of "Tigraiy proper" or "Etiyopiya proper". Now, you explain by what you mean by what you said.
Halafi Mengedi wrote:
05 May 2020, 17:07
Eritreans were evicted from our land Tigray at the end of second world war.
YAY wrote:
05 May 2020, 13:40
Dear Halafi Mengedi: The "Sea" of Tigraiy is known as White Sea, and not Red Sea

Some times you get carried away with your perceptions. Just because you said something, you desire your statement to be taken as truth. You are trying to distribute fake information, and it definitely is not going to work for you. You are trying to create Bahri Tigraiy, and you could but it is not going to be the Red Sea. Bahri Tigraiy is not red. It is the White Sea.

Bahri Tigraiy is called Lake Hashengee.
The British explorer Henry Salt, who notes that the Tigrinya name of the lake is Tsada Bahri ("White Sea")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ashenge
No matter who possessed or defended the Red Sea in the past, it is now Eritrean and not Tigraiy's. That is the fact, and legal. You cannot show us any proof that Tigraiy ever existed for 5000 years. Tigraiy is south of the Mareb River and west of the Dankalia region and east of the Takkeze River. And Tigraiy, as social or political unit, is different than the Aksumite Kingdom or Empire. Please don't confuse yourself or confuse others.

There are Tigrawian ethnic groups in north Tigraiy--i.e. south of the Mareb River--and north of Tigraiy is Eritrea and every ethnic group in Eritrea is Eritrean. Ginbar Weyyane Tigraiy has tried hard to fracture and divide the Eritrean people into several groups and has failed miserably. ShaEbiyya was not an ethnic organization, did not fight against any particular ethnic group anywhere, and fought for the independence of Eritrea as a whole as well for the implementation of its National Democratic Program.

Not the Red Sea, but TsaEda Bahri (or "Bahri Tigraiy" if you want to name it that) is Tigraiy's Sea. It is 20 sq. Kms. big, and that all yours.
Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:46
The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they died with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.
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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by YAY » 07 May 2020, 00:59

Dear Sun: I guess your question is directed to me

Sometimes I don't understand you, Sun. You cut out the first part of my statement and then you ask me what I mean by what you highlighted.
The "Sea" of Tigraiy is known as White Sea, and not Red Sea

Anyway, to make it clearer to you, my statement is based on Halafi Mengedi's claim that
Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray".
---i.e. Red Sea aka (also known as) "Bahri Tigray", or Tigraiy's sea, or lake. The fact remains that the Red Sea is not Tigraiy's sea. And I was informing him (or the reader) that "Bahri Tigray" or Tigraiy's Bahri/Bahr is not Red Sea but Lake Hashengee/Hashenge/Ashenge, which was also called TsaEda Bahri (ጻዕዳ ባሕሪ) in Tigrinya, meaning "White Sea" in English. I hope it is clearer to you now.

sun wrote:
05 May 2020, 18:29
Hmm... :P

What do you mean when you say Tigrai is known as "White Sea" when I see NO White Sea or the Red Sea within the context in which they are mentioned in here but only see nothing but No Sea.


“There is one spectacle grander than the sea, that is the sky; there is one spectacle grander than the sky, that is the interior of the soul.”
~Victor Hugo, Les Misérables
:P
YAY wrote:
05 May 2020, 13:40
Dear Halafi Mengedi: The "Sea" of Tigraiy is known as White Sea, and not Red Sea

Some times you get carried away with your perceptions. Just because you said something you desire your statement to be taken as truth. You are trying to distribute fake information, and it definitely is not going to work for you. You are trying to create Bahri Tigraiy, and you could but it is not going to be the Red Sea. Bahri Tigraiy is not red. It is the White Sea.

Bahri Tigraiy is called Lake Hashengee.
The British explorer Henry Salt, who notes that the Tigrinya name of the lake is Tsada Bahri ("White Sea")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ashenge
No matter who possessed or defended the Red Sea in the past, it is now Eritrean and not Tigraiy's. That is the fact, and legal. You cannot show us any proof that Tigraiy ever existed for 5000 years. Tigraiy is south of the Mareb River and west of the Dankalia region and east of the Takkeze River. And Tigraiy, as a social or political unit, is different than the Aksumite Kingdom or Empire. Please don't confuse yourself or confuse others.

There are Tigrawian ethnic groups in north Tigraiy--i.e. south of the Mareb River--and north of Tigraiy is Eritrea and every ethnic group in Eritrea is Eritrean. Ginbar Weyyane Tigraiy has tried hard to fracture and divide the Eritrean people into several groups and has failed miserably. ShaEbiyya was not an ethnic organization, did not fight against any particular ethnic group anywhere, and fought for the independence of Eritrea as a whole as well for the implementation of its National Democratic Program.

Not the Red Sea, but TsaEda Bahri (or "Bahri Tigraiy" if you want to name it that) is Tigraiy's Sea. It is 20 sq. Kms. big, and that all yours.
Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:46
The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they died with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.

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Re: To Debretsion and all nationalist Tigrayans urgent message

Post by simbe11 » 07 May 2020, 02:08

With all due respect, Lake Ashengae is not in Tigray. It’s in north Wello, which is Amhara region. There is no Tigray after Maychew. Period!!!
YAY wrote:
07 May 2020, 00:59
Dear Sun: I guess your question is directed to me

Sometimes I don't understand you, Sun. You cut out the first part of my statement and then you ask me what I mean by what you highlighted.
The "Sea" of Tigraiy is known as White Sea, and not Red Sea

Anyway, to make it clearer to you, my statement is based on Halafi Mengedi's claim that
Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray".
---i.e. Red Sea aka (also known as) "Bahri Tigray", or Tigraiy's sea, or lake. The fact remains that the Red Sea is not Tigraiy's sea. And I was informing him (or the reader) that "Bahri Tigray" or Tigraiy's Bahri/Bahr is not Red Sea but Lake Hashengee/Hashenge/Ashenge, which was also called TsaEda Bahri (ጻዕዳ ባሕሪ) in Tigrinya, meaning "White Sea" in English. I hope it is clearer to you now.

sun wrote:
05 May 2020, 18:29
Hmm... :P

What do you mean when you say Tigrai is known as "White Sea" when I see NO White Sea or the Red Sea within the context in which they are mentioned in here but only see nothing but No Sea.


“There is one spectacle grander than the sea, that is the sky; there is one spectacle grander than the sky, that is the interior of the soul.”
~Victor Hugo, Les Misérables
:P
YAY wrote:
05 May 2020, 13:40
Dear Halafi Mengedi: The "Sea" of Tigraiy is known as White Sea, and not Red Sea

Some times you get carried away with your perceptions. Just because you said something you desire your statement to be taken as truth. You are trying to distribute fake information, and it definitely is not going to work for you. You are trying to create Bahri Tigraiy, and you could but it is not going to be the Red Sea. Bahri Tigraiy is not red. It is the White Sea.

Bahri Tigraiy is called Lake Hashengee.
The British explorer Henry Salt, who notes that the Tigrinya name of the lake is Tsada Bahri ("White Sea")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ashenge
No matter who possessed or defended the Red Sea in the past, it is now Eritrean and not Tigraiy's. That is the fact, and legal. You cannot show us any proof that Tigraiy ever existed for 5000 years. Tigraiy is south of the Mareb River and west of the Dankalia region and east of the Takkeze River. And Tigraiy, as a social or political unit, is different than the Aksumite Kingdom or Empire. Please don't confuse yourself or confuse others.

There are Tigrawian ethnic groups in north Tigraiy--i.e. south of the Mareb River--and north of Tigraiy is Eritrea and every ethnic group in Eritrea is Eritrean. Ginbar Weyyane Tigraiy has tried hard to fracture and divide the Eritrean people into several groups and has failed miserably. ShaEbiyya was not an ethnic organization, did not fight against any particular ethnic group anywhere, and fought for the independence of Eritrea as a whole as well for the implementation of its National Democratic Program.

Not the Red Sea, but TsaEda Bahri (or "Bahri Tigraiy" if you want to name it that) is Tigraiy's Sea. It is 20 sq. Kms. big, and that all yours.
Halafi Mengedi wrote:
04 May 2020, 12:46
The new generation of Tigrayans must know that Tigray is Red Sea aka "Bahri Tigray" Tigrayans fought more than the so called Eritrea worshipers to control and safeguard Bahri Tigray and it is ours for Tigrayans including other ethnics live with us. During the struggle the Muslim ELF were killing the Tigray ethnic in north Tigray but the remaining Tigrayans came and evicted them from our land and Shaebia was to organize and mobilize the Tigray ethnic and fought all together and won against Amhara. The south Tigray led by Meles secured north Tigray independent and we refused to take the eastern part of Afar aka Asseb port when the Americans, British and the rest of EU pushing Meles to do so knowing Bahri Tigray must remain in the hand of Tigray ethnic the way used to be over 5000 years. The north Tigray does not have any right to do what ever they want about Bahri Tigray, the remaining Tigrayans including all ethnics and Agew have equal right for Bahri Tigray since they died with us to defend it. Bahri Tigray is not theirs but ours for all Tigray ethnic and other ethnics.

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