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If Ziad Bare of Somalia had his ways, there would never have been Oromia Region to speak about.

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 18 Mar 2020, 13:13

The claim by greater Somali advocates includes most of the eastern part of Ethiopia including Somali Region, Haraghe, Bale, Arsi and parts of Shewa to the gates of Addis. If the invasion had succeeded as planned by the dictator Bare, our die-hard OLFists by now would have waged a struggle to return back to mama Ethiopia. We all know where the TPLF stand was during that war.. :mrgreen:


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Re: If Ziad Bare of Somalia had his ways, there would never have been Oromia Region to speak about.

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 18 Mar 2020, 14:43

n 1960 Somalia declared independence as a union between provinces which until then had been colonies of Britain and Italy. In 1969 a military coup was led by the Chief of Staff Siad Barre. Barre abolished Somali democracy and led an Islamic communist regime in close partnership with the USSR, which sold him weapons to use against internal and external enemies. In 1977 Somalia declared war against Ethiopia in an attempt to conquer the Ogaden Desert where Somali nomads from the Ogaden clan (to which Barre’s mother belonged) lived.

Somalia was defeated. The defeat led to a massive economic crisis and one million refugees from the Ogaden Desert fled to Somali territory, mostly to northern Somalia where the Isaaq tribe dwelt. The relative stability of the Barre regime was undermined. In 1979, after two difficult years of crisis, Barre turned to the West and turned his back on the USSR which had supported him until then. The Barre regime began to crumble: members of his party began to plot against him, members of his tribe and other tribes which had been subject to discrimination began to oppose his regime, the opposition parties (from other tribes) established military forces, and a civil war began.

The Extermination:

On May 27, 1988 Siad Barre gave instructions to exterminate all members of the Isaaq tribe. Military forces under the command of Mohammed Said Hersi began aerial and artillery bombardment of the three cities in which the Isaaq lived: Hargeisa, Berbera and Bur’o. They also attacked villages and nomadic encampments where tribe members lived. Infantry forces exterminated those fleeing from cities, and after the cities were completely destroyed, went in on foot to complete the killing work directly. Many bodies were buried in mass graves.

General Said Hersi reported to Barre that he could not wipe out all of the Isaaq, as they were too numerous. It was then that his troops began forced marches of Isaaq tribesmen across the desert towards the Ethiopian border. Many perished of hunger and thirst along the way. The city of Hargeisa, which held some 350,000 inhabitants before the attack, was completely abandoned. The whole area was laid waste – animal herds were confiscated, agriculture destroyed, and mines laid everywhere. Various estimates give the number killed in less than one year at between 100,000 and 400,000 Isaaq. More than half a million Isaaq fled to Ethiopia; some half a million more lost their homes and became internally displaced persons in the northern region.

https://combatgenocide.org/?page_id=150

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Re: If Ziad Bare of Somalia had his ways, there would never have been Oromia Region to speak about.

Post by Somaliman » 18 Mar 2020, 15:33

“Without the 15.000 Cuban troops, Ethiopians couldn’t have provided the military organisation to resist the Somali troops, even with our help!”


Petr Chaplygin – Head of Soviet Military Mission Ethiopia.




Had the Russians and Cubans not jumped in to rescue your dirty arses, not only Oromia but all Ethiopia would have been something of the past and you would have been herding our camels today, rather than sitting on your arse all day here farting!

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Re: If Ziad Bare of Somalia had his ways, there would never have been Oromia Region to speak about.

Post by Degnet » 18 Mar 2020, 15:36

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 13:13
The claim by greater Somali advocates includes most of the eastern part of Ethiopia including Somali Region, Haraghe, Bale, Arsi and parts of Shewa to the gates of Addis. If the invasion had succeeded as planned by the dictator Bare, our die-hard OLFists by now would have waged a struggle to return back to mama Ethiopia. We all know where the TPLF stand was during that war.. :mrgreen:

Yehen tarik bleh ametahew EPRP wetatoch yetegedelubet

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Re: If Ziad Bare of Somalia had his ways, there would never have been Oromia Region to speak about.

Post by Sadacha Macca » 18 Mar 2020, 15:45

Somaliman wrote:
18 Mar 2020, 15:33
“Without the 15.000 Cuban troops, Ethiopians couldn’t have provided the military organisation to resist the Somali troops, even with our help!”


Petr Chaplygin – Head of Soviet Military Mission Ethiopia.




Had the Russians and Cubans not jumped in to rescue your dirty arses, not only Oromia but all Ethiopia would have been something of the past and you would have been herding our camels today, rather than sitting on your arse all day here farting!
Ethiopia was fighting various rebel armies at the same time, and going through a regime change, so of course.
however, had ethiopia been stable and united; I very much doubt that somalia would've made such progress.

secondly.... what about today, who is the hegemonic boss of the horn militarily? hint: not somalia!

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