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Re: OPINIONS: 1) ‘Did Menelik II really say he is Caucasian?’ 2) THE PEOPLES’ ADWA: Embracing plural interpretation.

Post by free-tembien » 01 Mar 2020, 17:57

ምኒሊክ እናቱ የወለደችው ወንድ ነው ፤ እንደ አንተ አይነቱን 130 ዓመታት እዬዬ እያስባለ ይኖራል፤ ወንድ የወንድ ወንድ! ሰው እስቲ እንዴት ከሞተ ከ100 ዓመታት በኋላም እንዲህ ወንዱን ሁሉ እንደ ሴት ያስለቅሳል? what a great man :lol:


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01 Mar 2020, 17:48

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Re: OPINIONS: 1) ‘Did Menelik II really say he is Caucasian?’ 2) THE PEOPLES’ ADWA: Embracing plural interpretation.

Post by Selam/ » 01 Mar 2020, 18:00

Yaballo my Arab puppy - Trying to deal with you is like trying to deal with a sleazy snake. You are so desperate that you now copied and pasted the falsehood of Tsegaye Arass, another immoral serpentine of the lowest order. It’s my burden to educate you and whack you in the head as my forefather did to the invading enemies.

You jump from Egypt to Afghanistan and then to Zululand to substantiate your falsehood and camouflage your own sickness and stupidity. You change gear from war to genome and linguistic to no avail. I am not the one who wrote about the victory of Adwa and independence of Ethiopia. First and foremost, it was the enemy itself that recognized its defeat and recorded the events in history books. Be my guest & continue to scribble your childish revisionist version but facts area facts. They are out there and you can deny them but you can’t change them.

Your idiocy is unparalleled. Why did you pick the Anglo-Zulu battle when in fact there are several other conflicts between colonialists and Africans? Thank to Wikipedia, fake experts and specialists with no education credentials are rapidly mushrooming theses days, confusing and misleading the average readers. It’s a shame that you copy and paste garbage after garbage without any meaningful context. My Arab puppy, there are several battles fought in Africa against colonialists and invaders: the Ethiopians defeated the Ottomans in 1579; the queen of Angola fought the Portuguese in 1583; those same colonialist got defeated in Mombasa in 1660;, Lesotho successfully fought the colonialists in 1880; Boer of South Africa battled with the British in 1899 so on and so forth. The battle of Isandlwana is just one in hundred examples. And what you didn’t mention is that the British defeated the powerful Zulu King and subordinated his kingdom once and for all. Dumbas’s rat, there is no analogy to be made between Ethiopia’s successful defeat of all invaders and the short-term resistance of other African brothers. You can rewrite your own history but you can’t change what other witnessed firsthand and accurately documented.

Exaggerating the support of ferenji’s in the 2nd Ethio-Italy war is another futile attempt of a dense Wikipedia expert to discredit the sweat and blood of patriotic Ethiopians. Buda Arab slave, the armed uprising of Ethiopian patriots had already made the life of fascists Italy miserable during their five years occupation. Remember, fascist Italy had been already in Somaliland, Eritrea and Italy for over 30 years before they occupied Ethiopia. And therefore the Allied forces didn’t come to assist only Ethiopian resistance fighters but also to get rid of Mussolini from the entire region as part of their geo-political interest. The photo you posted shows when the South African army marched from Moyale to Mogadishu to fight italian command posts. They also marched further north to crush them in the Jubaline. The Ethiopian Arbegnoch in Wollega were already heading to Addis by then. KIFU!



https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/15600635.pdf

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/ ... he-breech/











The battle of Adwa narrated by a York University Professor.





First victory of Blacks over Whites:


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Re: OPINIONS: 1) ‘Did Menelik II really say he is Caucasian?’ 2) THE PEOPLES’ ADWA: Embracing plural interpretation.

Post by Abere » 01 Mar 2020, 18:12

እምዬ ምኒልክ የጀግና ጀግና - በህይወት ሳይኖር እንኳን ጠላቶቹን የሚያቃጥል እቶን። ምድረ ኅዳጣን ሸቃይ ወያኔዎችን እና እንዴ ፀጋዬ አራርሳ ያሉ የኦነግ የጋማ ከብቶችን የሚያስደነብር እና ብንዑስነት ቁጭት የሚጠብሳቸው ጀግና። የጀግንነቱን ዳርቻ መስፈር ቢያቅታቸው ጥቁር ነው ነጭ ነው እያሉ ይደናበራሉ። ጀግና በ ሺ ዓመት እንዴ ድንቅ ሰማይ ኮከብ ብቅ ይላል እንጅ በየ አሥርት እና መቶ ዓመት አይወለድም።

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Re: OPINIONS: 1) ‘Did Menelik II really say he is Caucasian?’ 2) THE PEOPLES’ ADWA: Embracing plural interpretation.

Post by TGAA » 01 Mar 2020, 19:18

Yabello Tsegaye Regassa was born in Addis Abbaba , a melting pot , if there is one in Ethiopia. It is not uncommon to hear him reminiscing about his childhood and adolescent time in Addis, although one can’t tell what kind of value he attaches to it. He is like most of Addis Abbians the product of two or more nationality, athough he skirts not to devolge what nationality his parents are from, and now to make the circle more complete he is supposedly married to Tigrian woman. Seeing from afar his life paints a person who has had the opportunity to experience multicultural living , both the good and the bad. However, his pointed bitterness about Ethiopia in general and his hate toward “Amharas” , in particular is so palpable, Mandle in his bitter 28 years of imprisonment in apartheid South Africa would haven’t mastered that much loathe; . In all his presentations and arguments, he viscerally attacks, his rushes to downplay any communal experience of Ethiopians have had , except the his highly valued experience of having been the designated holders of the official Ethiopian passport dispensed by Ethiopian foreign ministry, there is no Ethiopian bing. He argues what we call anything Ethiopian ranging from culinary to custume are Amhara and Tigrian cultural expressions. These assumptions are contrary to fact ;so much so that any Ethiopian would tell you the tapestry of social and cultural make up of Ethiopia let alone a cultural anthropologist with a tool and skill to examin it. As a layman one cannot fail to suspect childhood psychological melodrama for his veisiral hate. Or his not so endowed handsome personality and the incessant rejection he encountered from woman must have left unhealing wound. this psychological problem is a suspect for Tsigayas hate. As Mele’s Banda family background and being stigmatized by being one must have caused him to hate Ethiopia, Tsegay’s must have some social malady that crippled his core being.
In its long existence,Ethiopia being a multinational state, had been evolving before it took its final shape at the end of 18th century because of both internal and external factors . Tsegay uses politically potent but false historical dichotomy to presents the Ethiopian state formation as state as if it sprang at the end of 18th century when Menilk showed up. By doing so he makes the case that the North Ethiopians as colonialist that occupied the south in particular Oromos into subjugation, and he affirms that Oromos have played no part in establishing the Ethiopia state that exist now. He arguess national formation in context of Ethiopia had been foreign to them and it still continues to be foreign to them now. To support his argument, he refers to Harris, William Cornwallis, Sir, Ethiopian encounters: Sir William Cornwallis Harris and the British mission to the Kingdom of Shewa (1841-3) Bulatovich, A. K. (Aleksandr Ksaverʹevich), 1870-1919. Ethiopia through Russian eyes : country in transition, 1896-1898 , and Waugh, Evelyn, 1903-1966. Waugh in Abyssinia. He usually uses these books as ironclad evidence colonial like a subjugation. Anyone who has had a good read of these books couldn’t come to the same kind of conclusion as Tsgay. Because Oromo leaders were part and pricel of the shifting political power in the solidification of Ethiopan state. Yet for ethonationlist these individauals are considered trators who betrayed their ethnic cause , but this oromos leaders were taking share of their power by participating and negotiating with shifting power center. He also lends to much credence to expedition that took only two years to complete and a Eurocentric historical analysis that employed a load of racist assumptions. His invitation to unassumingly to take these books as the base to dual on as unbiased historical fact is simply political sophistry. Tsgaye has a habit of throwing explosive statements to further his colonial argument and confound unsuspected readers such as Minilk had claimed to be a cacatian, despite evidence to the contrary. From his own life expranice he knows well that except a person in Amanuel Hospital no sain Ethioipina entertain let alone claim he/or she is a cocasian that by any steache of imagination wouldn’t exclude Minilik. The closest grasp any Ethipian could have a bout cocasian race is he is nechacehba ferenge. The reason Tsegaye make this kind of outlandish assertion is simply to dislodge Minilik from the high pedestal the black people of the world sat him on . one has to suspect his blind relainse on the wester historiance while down playing historical records of Ethiopian orgin unless and otherwise that supports his ethno nationalist agendas points that it has to be the former rather than the latter. Knowing quite well the weak historical facts that he bases his ant-Ethiopian, Tsegay leaves for himself a wiggling room by proclaiming he is not a historian, but a legale ??. He also sewers that he is not a political activist but a legal academic, while it taks a few browses to find him in a agitating and instigating with his ethnic –hate-laced speeches in public for his nationalist cause.
What has been achieved in Adwa is so profound and so historical Tsegay’s scrabble is not even worthy of is as a footnote, let alone to derail it. The triumphant Ethiopians will go on to register much more victories despite the challenge they face. It is not uncommon to hear few self-hating blacks insulting, degrading, their black brothers and sisters in most vicious way imaginable, so Tsegaye’s inferiority ravaged personality is in the same category, his worked up an uppity vulgarism, except making him a laughingstock, it will not dent the victory that dumfounded the racist colonialist, now now but when racism was the norm of the white world.

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Re: OPINIONS: 1) ‘Did Menelik II really say he is Caucasian?’ 2) THE PEOPLES’ ADWA: Embracing plural interpretation.

Post by Lakeshore » 01 Mar 2020, 22:33

Can't critsize menilike for th efollowing reason

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