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በደምና በሙስና የተጨማለቁ እጆች! ከአብን ያፈተለኩ ሚስጥሮች

Post by Ejersa » 25 Feb 2020, 07:40

አብን ከወያኔ 200,000 ተከፍሎታል :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 25 Feb 2020, 09:44

Almost half a century ago, when the future tribal politicians started to mushroom in Haileselassie university the impetus for embracing their dogma was mainly ignorance. When they came to power, they changed that to business. The so-called new politicians were encouraged to form tribal party in order to get money from the TPLF government.
When TPLF was retreated to Mekele, NAMA was created. Is that a coincidence? No. Amharas were pushed around for all TPLF’s ruling, but there was no party who vowed to fight in their behalf.
Some argue, they came to existence because during the Abiy’s administration honeymoon Amharas were targeted in some parts of Ethiopia.
Well, why it became necessary the Amhara politicians to defend Amharas, why not Ethiopians. Enter TPLF.
Yes, without TPLF input NAMA was not created overnight.
How much TPLF got out of its investment is a matter of debate.
NAMA does not need reform; it needs a sudden death. No matter how hard they try to paint themselves as genuine, tribal politicians are danger for the vey existence of Ethiopia. They should be condemned. The Ethiopia I want to see was shown the other day in Teddy’s concert. Those kids represent the future Ethiopia.

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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 25 Feb 2020, 12:11

This goes to show how pathetic some of you here are. You think that 200K birr is big enough of an amount to sway NAMA to stand with the historic enemies of the Amhara people such as TPLF and OLF. First off, Organizing Amharas is the only way out for the current crisis that the country is in unless the tribal politics is legally banned. ADP was supposed to be standing up to the OLF boys but we all are witnessing how spineless they are. The reality is very grim and dangerously bringing the country to the brink I have yet to see NAMA standing to support a position that goes against Ethiopian Unity and its sovereignty. Amharas have never campaigned against any tribe, rather they defended everyone equally and preserved a country that you all are now scrambling to disintegrate.

It is the Amhars blood that is wetting the Ethiopian soil everywhere in that country. It is the Amharas tears that is flowing none stop because of the hate politics that targeted that particular community. Some of you are Ethiopian when you think you benefit from such positions. The Amhars have always been there defending that ungrateful country through thick and thin. There is no going back .Now that TPLF is replaced by OLF to do as it pleases, you better have a better grasp of your nonsensical utterances and be in the game to rough it out. Remember, the ostrich never saved her arse by burring her face in the sand.

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Post by tlel » 25 Feb 2020, 13:48

Tplf /olf has been campaigning to Amaras to have their own liberation fronts for a long time now. However as I have always said, those Liberation Fronts have been playing chase and they have been in control of Ethiopoia now fully for 30 years therefore, tplf knows eventually the Amara will organize by itself when threatened so it is physics again and Liberation Fronts starting the physics now Amara has realized it is under threat and need to organize. What does unity mean anyway, when underthreat you unite to defend yourself. Now every ethnic tribe is threatening one another designed by Liberation Fronts therefore you have to unite, this time, minus Ethiopia, to defend yourself. This eventually will create what Liberation Fronts dreamed of independet nations. Right now, Aby is being encouraged to think about his Bete Mengist in Jimma. Why? If it is united Ethiopia, it is united Ethiopia period, a leader should not have favoritism anywhere except address issues of all Ethiopians. However, there are also naturally pro ethnic amaras and Liberation Fronts (Tplf/OLF) are feeding them and saying welcome to the party

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Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 25 Feb 2020, 13:57

NAMA has become a political entity when Ethiopians refused pimping of ethnic politics. That NAMA only speaks for the interest of Amharas is a speech Sebhat Nega dies to hear. N AMA is no different than TPLF or OLF. They are all the same.

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Post by Revelations » 25 Feb 2020, 14:41

አሳማ እባላለሁ ፣ ይሄንን ቅጥፈትህን ሂድና ለለማ መገርሳና ሽመልስ አብዲሳ ንገራቸው:: ለወሮታህ ገንፎ ያጎርሱሃል::




Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 13:57
NAMA has become a political entity when Ethiopians refused pimping of ethnic politics. That NAMA only speaks for the interest of Amharas is a speech Sebhat Nega dies to hear. N AMA is no different than TPLF or OLF. They are all the same.

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Post by opmerc » 25 Feb 2020, 15:01

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 12:11
This goes to show how pathetic some of you here are. You think that 200K birr is big enough of an amount to sway NAMA to stand with the historic enemies of the Amhara people such as TPLF and OLF. First off, Organizing Amharas is the only way out for the current crisis that the country is in unless the tribal politics is legally banned. ADP was supposed to be standing up to the OLF boys but we all are witnessing how spineless they are. The reality is very grim and dangerously bringing the country to the brink I have yet to see NAMA standing to support a position that goes against Ethiopian Unity and its sovereignty. Amharas have never campaigned against any tribe, rather they defended everyone equally and preserved a country that you all are now scrambling to disintegrate.

It is the Amhars blood that is wetting the Ethiopian soil everywhere in that country. It is the Amharas tears that is flowing none stop because of the hate politics that targeted that particular community. Some of you are Ethiopian when you think you benefit from such positions. The Amhars have always been there defending that ungrateful country through thick and thin. There is no going back .Now that TPLF is replaced by OLF to do as it pleases, you better have a better grasp of your nonsensical utterances and be in the game to rough it out. Remember, the ostrich never saved her arse by burring her face in the sand.
As usual you are focusing on all the wrong things. Instead of comparing the amount of money TPLF gave to NAMA to any amount NAMA raises itself or what TPLF spends in general, you need to consider why TPLF would spend any money to keep NAMA alive in the first place. Do you see TPLF forking over one cent to non tribalist parties? How many TPLF cadres are assembled at this moment telling you to vote for citizen based parties? How much time and spam is Mr. Amhara extraordinaire Revelations dedicating to this "historic enemy"?

The answer of course is obvious. They want you buried in schemes for supremacy in one kilil while you ignore games being played on you at the federal level. This want this replicated in every region. And here you are playing the part perfectly. You are choosing to be life support for NAMA and actively choosing to trap yourself like all the other hopeless southern tribalists begging to be a kilil as if each kilil activist will be crowned president of it.

Spend less time getting defensive about non constructive parties and their pointless missions.

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Post by Revelations » 25 Feb 2020, 15:30

Zemzem/EZEMA/g7 should say goodbye to her dream of controlling the Amhara population. This might be the last helping hand from Bilgina you will get therefore understandable your last gasp on the issue.




opmerc wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 15:01
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 12:11
This goes to show how pathetic some of you here are. You think that 200K birr is big enough of an amount to sway NAMA to stand with the historic enemies of the Amhara people such as TPLF and OLF. First off, Organizing Amharas is the only way out for the current crisis that the country is in unless the tribal politics is legally banned. ADP was supposed to be standing up to the OLF boys but we all are witnessing how spineless they are. The reality is very grim and dangerously bringing the country to the brink I have yet to see NAMA standing to support a position that goes against Ethiopian Unity and its sovereignty. Amharas have never campaigned against any tribe, rather they defended everyone equally and preserved a country that you all are now scrambling to disintegrate.

It is the Amhars blood that is wetting the Ethiopian soil everywhere in that country. It is the Amharas tears that is flowing none stop because of the hate politics that targeted that particular community. Some of you are Ethiopian when you think you benefit from such positions. The Amhars have always been there defending that ungrateful country through thick and thin. There is no going back .Now that TPLF is replaced by OLF to do as it pleases, you better have a better grasp of your nonsensical utterances and be in the game to rough it out. Remember, the ostrich never saved her arse by burring her face in the sand.
As usual you are focusing on all the wrong things. Instead of comparing the amount of money TPLF gave to NAMA to any amount NAMA raises itself or what TPLF spends in general, you need to consider why TPLF would spend any money to keep NAMA alive in the first place. Do you see TPLF forking over one cent to non tribalist parties? How many TPLF cadres are assembled at this moment telling you to vote for citizen based parties? How much time and spam is Mr. Amhara extraordinaire Revelations dedicating to this "historic enemy"?

The answer of course is obvious. They want you buried in schemes for supremacy in one kilil while you ignore games being played on you at the federal level. This want this replicated in every region. And here you are playing the part perfectly. You are choosing to be life support for NAMA and actively choosing to trap yourself like all the other hopeless southern tribalists begging to be a kilil as if each kilil activist will be crowned president of it.

Spend less time getting defensive about non constructive parties and their pointless missions.

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Post by opmerc » 25 Feb 2020, 15:50

Revelations wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 15:30
Zemzem/EZEMA/g7 should say goodbye to her dream of controlling the Amhara population. This might be the last helping hand from Bilgina you will get therefore understandable your last gasp on the issue.


That's it, keep trying to deflect. Maybe if you post more OLF pictures people will forget the topic of this thread entirely. 8)

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Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 25 Feb 2020, 16:41

Revelations, the part time ethnic politics pusher make choice: be in the camp of Jawar, albeit your championing for the Amharas, or at least try to fake it: that you care only about Ethiopia. Thousands of ethnic politics pimps have faked it for nearly thirty years, why not you?

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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 25 Feb 2020, 17:32

opmerc wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 15:01
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 12:11
This goes to show how pathetic some of you here are. You think that 200K birr is big enough of an amount to sway NAMA to stand with the historic enemies of the Amhara people such as TPLF and OLF. First off, Organizing Amharas is the only way out for the current crisis that the country is in unless the tribal politics is legally banned. ADP was supposed to be standing up to the OLF boys but we all are witnessing how spineless they are. The reality is very grim and dangerously bringing the country to the brink I have yet to see NAMA standing to support a position that goes against Ethiopian Unity and its sovereignty. Amharas have never campaigned against any tribe, rather they defended everyone equally and preserved a country that you all are now scrambling to disintegrate.

It is the Amhars blood that is wetting the Ethiopian soil everywhere in that country. It is the Amharas tears that is flowing none stop because of the hate politics that targeted that particular community. Some of you are Ethiopian when you think you benefit from such positions. The Amhars have always been there defending that ungrateful country through thick and thin. There is no going back .Now that TPLF is replaced by OLF to do as it pleases, you better have a better grasp of your nonsensical utterances and be in the game to rough it out. Remember, the ostrich never saved her arse by burring her face in the sand.
As usual you are focusing on all the wrong things. Instead of comparing the amount of money TPLF gave to NAMA to any amount NAMA raises itself or what TPLF spends in general, you need to consider why TPLF would spend any money to keep NAMA alive in the first place. Do you see TPLF forking over one cent to non tribalist parties? How many TPLF cadres are assembled at this moment telling you to vote for citizen based parties? How much time and spam is Mr. Amhara extraordinaire Revelations dedicating to this "historic enemy"?

The answer of course is obvious. They want you buried in schemes for supremacy in one kilil while you ignore games being played on you at the federal level. This want this replicated in every region. And here you are playing the part perfectly. You are choosing to be life support for NAMA and actively choosing to trap yourself like all the other hopeless southern tribalists begging to be a kilil as if each kilil activist will be crowned president of it.

Spend less time getting defensive about non constructive parties and their pointless missions.
Your pointless diatribe is more to contribute to the misguided hate campaign against the only real alternative that the Amhara people have of in defending themselves against the multi-pronged attack that is still raging. It is very obvious how the current administration in desperately trying to appease its tribal buddies even when they cause rampage in the country specifically targeting the Amharas and Christians. You should have made your voice heard when the reason to get organized avails itself for the people who are shouldering the brunt of massacre and displacement in the country unabated for more than 3 decades and counting.

Your focus on the faked info and conjuring it up with your understanding of how we, as people, should let everything pass so that the unworthy could stay at the helm or at some point get to power and again kill the same people that have been at the mouth of the guillotine is beyond palpable. NAMA is probably the only party that stated the fascism of TPLF precisely and made a case why that party has to be liquidated.

Because the current “leaders” of the country speak about Ethiopia in colorful terms and turn around and do something that is openly contrary to the value of what Ethiopia should be, isn’t reason enough for those who are paying in tears and blood, to abandon organizing themselves. You try to ignore as if the politics in the country isn't based on the worst form of tribalism and, worse yet, want to disparage others when they are playing by the "rule" just so they can survive the day and be there for the Utopia that you seem to pontificate about. It is way too late already for the Amharas but not too late at least to save the lives of the people who are only massacred just because they are not from the tribes of choice.

You assume that we are buried in the scheme of supremacy in just one region and forget the big picture. You are being a little too presumptuous here for playing ignorant about the fact that the Amharas are the ones who are found in greater number outside of the enclave designated to them by the EPRDF government. It isn’t about Regional politics aba. The people are made strangers in the country of their fathers and have no say in its politics.

Organizing the people doesn’t end in the borders of the enclave to make the necessary dent in the current existing system. The ethno adherents won’t give up any space unless they are forced to. I am not sure if you have better alternative that can be sold across to unite all forces that can do the job of correcting the dark TPLF/OLF intentional overtures. I know it requires tasted leaders to do the job…but it is a job that has to be done if the Amharas are to be saved and thereby saving the country too. The game is played at the federal level by those who are only there because of their tribal affiliations and inherent incompetence (the yes men). Your pointing us to support such recklessness is a perfect manifestation of how some of you have only become impulsive.

How about you spend some time getting to know what you are standing by?

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Post by opmerc » 25 Feb 2020, 18:27

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 17:32
Your pointless diatribe is more to contribute to the misguided hate campaign against the only real alternative that the Amhara people have of in defending themselves against the multi-pronged attack that is still raging. It is very obvious how the current administration in desperately trying to appease its tribal buddies even when they cause rampage in the country specifically targeting the Amharas and Christians. You should have made your voice heard when the reason to get organized avails itself for the people who are shouldering the brunt of massacre and displacement in the country unabated for more than 3 decades and counting.

Your focus on the faked info and conjuring it up with your understanding of how we, as people, should let everything pass so that the unworthy could stay at the helm or at some point get to power and again kill the same people that have been at the mouth of the guillotine is beyond palpable. NAMA is probably the only party that stated the fascism of TPLF precisely and made a case why that party has to be liquidated.

Because the current “leaders” of the country speak about Ethiopia in colorful terms and turn around and do something that is openly contrary to the value of what Ethiopia should be, isn’t reason enough for those who are paying in tears and blood, to abandon organizing themselves. You try to ignore as if the politics in the country isn't based on the worst form of tribalism and, worse yet, want to disparage others when they are playing by the "rule" just so they can survive the day and be there for the Utopia that you seem to pontificate about. It is way too late already for the Amharas but not too late at least to save the lives of the people who are only massacred just because they are not from the tribes of choice.

You assume that we are buried in the scheme of supremacy in just one region and forget the big picture. You are being a little too presumptuous here for playing ignorant about the fact that the Amharas are the ones who are found in greater number outside of the enclave designated to them by the EPRDF government. It isn’t about Regional politics aba. The people are made strangers in the country of their fathers and have no say in its politics.

Organizing the people doesn’t end in the borders of the enclave to make the necessary dent in the current existing system. The ethno adherents won’t give up any space unless they are forced to. I am not sure if you have better alternative that can be sold across to unite all forces that can do the job of correcting the dark TPLF/OLF intentional overtures. I know it requires tasted leaders to do the job…but it is a job that has to be done if the Amharas are to be saved and thereby saving the country too. The game is played at the federal level by those who are only there because of their tribal affiliations and inherent incompetence (the yes men). Your pointing us to support such recklessness is a perfect manifestation of how some of you have only become impulsive.

How about you spend some time getting to know what you are standing by?
Wait who decided the only real alternative to the attacks is the group being promoted and co-financed by the organizers of the attacks? And what tribalist party achieved security for their constituents? Which election deemed them the most worthy of being at the helm?

We've already done this dance though.. You don't have answers for any of these questions. Only more tales of victim-hood.

And I'm not considering attacks on Amhara as the starting point of when to get concerned or involved. You can fight over who is the most concerned about Amhara or Christians with someone else who considers that title a prize.

But you are focused on regional politics. There is nothing a group like NAMA can do for Amharas facing persecution outside of achieving political power in the one kilil they will face the least persecution. If it can even achieve that much. Fundraising to build more media studios after that doesn't stop any attacks elsewhere. I bet it would make you feel really good having a 24/7 victim-hood channel though...

I know perfectly well what I'm standing by and where I'm trying to go. But in case you are unclear about where that is, it's far away from playing by weyane rules. But you are welcome to play by those rules following people they endorse and see how far you get.

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Post by sun » 25 Feb 2020, 19:10

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 09:44
Almost half a century ago, when the future tribal politicians started to mushroom in Haileselassie university the impetus for embracing their dogma was mainly ignorance. When they came to power, they changed that to business. The so-called new politicians were encouraged to form tribal party in order to get money from the TPLF government.
When TPLF was retreated to Mekele, NAMA was created. Is that a coincidence? No. Amharas were pushed around for all TPLF’s ruling, but there was no party who vowed to fight in their behalf.
Some argue, they came to existence because during the Abiy’s administration honeymoon Amharas were targeted in some parts of Ethiopia.
Well, why it became necessary the Amhara politicians to defend Amharas, why not Ethiopians. Enter TPLF.
Yes, without TPLF input NAMA was not created overnight.
How much TPLF got out of its investment is a matter of debate.
NAMA does not need reform; it needs a sudden death. No matter how hard they try to paint themselves as genuine, tribal politicians are danger for the vey existence of Ethiopia. They should be condemned. The Ethiopia I want to see was shown the other day in Teddy’s concert. Those kids represent the future Ethiopia.
Hmm... :lol:
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Post by TGAA » 25 Feb 2020, 19:29

Both ADP and AZeMa are spinless political hacks who failed time and time gain to stand with Amhara people when the Oromo tribal goons burn church and uproot Amharas and conduct an open campaign to liquidated the whole Amhara persona.
Let us leave Abiy on a side for a min, but the Azema and ODP has failed to register their Objection when tribal pimps coming into a city , disturbing religion places with a federal police standing by or actively involving and encouraging it. So More or less , Nama has done a better job of reacting ahead of the crime or right after it. If the other Political organization continue to fail to do their job -- always Nama going to be an alternative. Baldras has done more to stop the Oromo fanatics on their tracks than ODP or Azema . One can support Abiy without letting the unleashed tribal dogs roam the country as they want, if one can not stop them , one has to make a clear statement against them. Both try to find an excuse in the name of helping the reformist Abey. It is a political nonsense to put all Ethiopian eggs in just one basket . I don't think these political organization have a second plan at all I meant ADP and AZema , I assure you though jawar and weyanes have. In this uncharted waters anything can happen -- we don't need to wait things to fall in our lap . Help when we have to stand up when we have to , kick some [deleted] when we must .

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Post by sun » 25 Feb 2020, 19:42

TGAA wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 19:29
Both ADP and AZeMa are spinless political hacks who failed time and time gain to stand with Amhara people when the Oromo tribal goons burn church and uproot Amharas and conduct an open campaign to liquidated the whole Amhara persona.
Let us leave Abiy on a side for a min, but the Azema and ODP has failed to register their Objection when tribal pimps coming into a city , disturbing religion places with a federal police standing by or actively involving and encouraging it. So More or less , Nama has done a better job of reacting ahead of the crime or right after it. If the other Political organization continue to fail to do their job -- always Nama going to be an alternative. Baldras has done more to stop the Oromo fanatics on their tracks than ODP or Azema . One can support Abiy without letting the unleashed tribal dogs roam the country as they want, if one can not stop them , one has to make a clear statement against them. Both try to find an excuse in the name of helping the reformist Abey. It is a political nonsense to put all Ethiopian eggs in just one basket . I don't think these political organization have a second plan at all I meant ADP and AZema , I assure you though jawar and weyanes have. In this uncharted waters anything can happen -- we don't need to wait things to fall in our lap . Help when we have to stand up when we have to , kick some [deleted] when we must .
Hmm... :P

You are one of the most entertaining red ar$$$ baboon Chimp p!mp striptease naked actress on this forum. Keep the show to go on please.
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Post by TGAA » 25 Feb 2020, 20:19

The only thing inane pagan dream about is entertaining . Dream on . Had eugenicist caught you before you drooped on to this good earth , they would have done us a favor, but here you are the scum of the earth with all your glory.

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Post by sun » 25 Feb 2020, 20:35

TGAA wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 20:19
The only thing inane pagan dream about is entertaining . Dream on . Had eugenicist caught you before you drooped on to this good earth , they would have done us a favor, but here you are the scum of the earth with all your glory.
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Glory yes! In fact you have to undress, take shower, be yourself and bend deep so as to pray to the Sun God
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Post by TGAA » 25 Feb 2020, 21:00

only the impotent and ED crippled brag about their sexual power online, the man show it where it counts . It also affects all you think and what you are doing in politics or otherwise --gura becha .

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Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 25 Feb 2020, 21:10

opmerc wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 18:27


Wait who decided the only real alternative to the attacks is the group being promoted and co-financed by the organizers of the attacks? And what tribalist party achieved security for their constituents? Which election deemed them the most worthy of being at the helm?

We've already done this dance though.. You don't have answers for any of these questions. Only more tales of victim-hood.

And I'm not considering attacks on Amhara as the starting point of when to get concerned or involved. You can fight over who is the most concerned about Amhara or Christians with someone else who considers that title a prize.

But you are focused on regional politics. There is nothing a group like NAMA can do for Amharas facing persecution outside of achieving political power in the one kilil they will face the least persecution. If it can even achieve that much. Fundraising to build more media studios after that doesn't stop any attacks elsewhere. I bet it would make you feel really good having a 24/7 victim-hood channel though...

I know perfectly well what I'm standing by and where I'm trying to go. But in case you are unclear about where that is, it's far away from playing by weyane rules. But you are welcome to play by those rules following people they endorse and see how far you get.
You might be privy to some info that magically links NAMA to TPLF, which we obviously find laughable. The attacks on the Amhara people now are coordinated by the government paid Police and other security apparatus, if you already don’t know that. The Government which protects the known ethnic arsonist 24/7 is the same government which doesn’t even say a word to denounce the beheading and dismembering of an 80 years old man by same arsonist followers. All we heard was statistics of which tribe was killed the most and certainly not the why.

You mix up things to blur where the lines are. Defending oneself and one’s family is a duty of a rational being. However attacking civilians and unleashing terror on those who are not in a position to defend themselves is inhuman and barbaric. Getting hurt while going for the kill is what you are trying to equate with intentionally killing others just because who they are. The unprovoked tribalist attacks could significantly be deterred if not eliminated if there were to be an organized defense against them. The poor Amharas are not even allowed by the government to hold a stick let alone the real deal.

The TPLF/OLF kind of disastrous fascism in the first place came to the realm to just kill Amharas for political and economic gains and expropriate their lands. Amharas position is defensive and has always been to protects the people from such rowdy haters. ADP has always been a hired hand helping whoever takes the helm at Menilik Palace and decimate the people and region of Amhara. So you said there is nothing Amharas can do by organizing themselves while OLF/TPLF has been effective in claiming more than what they dreamt of. Time will tell.

Building studios isn’t a bad thing unless you want the people to be perpetually ignorant about what is being cooked against them. Your simplification of the power of information isn’t something that we subscribe to. Victimized is what we unfortunately is by the very politics that we never have been part of. We do of course let the world know the genocidal intentions and occurrences as much as we could. You may not like the exposie but it is what it is..

You look for answers when you don’t even have the right questions to ask. The woyane rules are the “constitution” that the government always swears to protect until the end. If you have a better rule that we can respect and play by, we shall do so. I will get us as far as the rules go and, we will up the game when the rules change. How about that? Till then I cannot deny you of the space that you are standing on, if there is any.

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Post by opmerc » 26 Feb 2020, 01:52

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
25 Feb 2020, 21:10
You might be privy to some info that magically links NAMA to TPLF, which we obviously find laughable. The attacks on the Amhara people now are coordinated by the government paid Police and other security apparatus, if you already don’t know that. The Government which protects the known ethnic arsonist 24/7 is the same government which doesn’t even say a word to denounce the beheading and dismembering of an 80 years old man by same arsonist followers. All we heard was statistics of which tribe was killed the most and certainly not the why.

You mix up things to blur where the lines are. Defending oneself and one’s family is a duty of a rational being. However attacking civilians and unleashing terror on those who are not in a position to defend themselves is inhuman and barbaric. Getting hurt while going for the kill is what you are trying to equate with intentionally killing others just because who they are. The unprovoked tribalist attacks could significantly be deterred if not eliminated if there were to be an organized defense against them. The poor Amharas are not even allowed by the government to hold a stick let alone the real deal.

The TPLF/OLF kind of disastrous fascism in the first place came to the realm to just kill Amharas for political and economic gains and expropriate their lands. Amharas position is defensive and has always been to protects the people from such rowdy haters. ADP has always been a hired hand helping whoever takes the helm at Menilik Palace and decimate the people and region of Amhara. So you said there is nothing Amharas can do by organizing themselves while OLF/TPLF has been effective in claiming more than what they dreamt of. Time will tell.

Building studios isn’t a bad thing unless you want the people to be perpetually ignorant about what is being cooked against them. Your simplification of the power of information isn’t something that we subscribe to. Victimized is what we unfortunately is by the very politics that we never have been part of. We do of course let the world know the genocidal intentions and occurrences as much as we could. You may not like the exposie but it is what it is..

You look for answers when you don’t even have the right questions to ask. The woyane rules are the “constitution” that the government always swears to protect until the end. If you have a better rule that we can respect and play by, we shall do so. I will get us as far as the rules go and, we will up the game when the rules change. How about that? Till then I cannot deny you of the space that you are standing on, if there is any.
I guess in your world not saying anything is giving three press conferences. Or should the government call a fourth and reiterate the details of how each person was killed while stressing in bold those that were Amhara? Is that when you can decide it has sufficiently addressed the topic?

Look the lines are very clear. You think you are special. When you do tribalism it's because it is earned and when others do it is just wrong. Anyone that is in power that doesn't belong to your tribe is secretly working to harm you. So the only way to ensure you are safe is to support people from your tribe. There is also no reason to consider what happens if everyone thinks and acts like you. The only solution is worry about yourself and figure out what to do after a civil war starts.

And I'm not mixing up anything. You want a simple world with simple answers. You see police collaborating with hooligans to cause chaos and you are not interested in finding out who in power has an interest in creating such events and making people act the way they do. In your head, police equals government and government equals everyone in government. That's the extent of your examination. You see attacks on Amhara and you just want an Amhara looking hand to extend out and give you a gun. No examination of who that hand really belongs to, where that hand has been or what could happen after you get that gun.

So by all means continue giving your time and money so NAMA can provide you with a steady stream of grief [deleted]. That is of course if it doesn't result in more violent contests on who among you is more worthy. Plus with all the other attacks they won't be solving, we will all have plenty of content to look forward to.

And hopefully when everyone else has fixed the problem for you, you can come and say you were on this side all along.

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