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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

Post by Ejersa » 20 Feb 2020, 23:33

:mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
pushkin wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 23:17
Isaias Afewerki was born in 1946 in the village of Tselot in Asmara, Eritrea, to parents Afwerki Abraha and Adanesh Berhe. His father, Ato Afwerki, a native of Tselot village in Zoba Maekel, just outside Asmara, was working at a state-owned company, Tobacco Monopoly. His mother, Woizero Adanesh, was from Adidubus village in Zoba Debub. Isaias grew up in Asmara and graduated from Prince Makonnen High School (PMSS) in 1965. After passing the General School Leaving Certificate, he was admitted to the highly competitive College of Engineering at Haile Selassie I University (now called Addis Ababa University) in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. However, a year later in September 1966, he decided to join forces engaged in the Eritrean Armed Struggle for Independence.
Zreal wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 22:13
Can you disprove this family Tree of King Isaias by posting what you think the correct family tree if him. Otherwise I sand with the given data!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
pushkin wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 21:48
The zreal moron! Is this the Holly bible? Stupid people like you base their arguement on any source or images without checking its reliability. I am sorry this a is scientfic explanation beyond the capacity of Liwach liwach or bella roba person like you. It is a family tree sketched by some idiots who tried to show that the PIA is related to Bezbiz kassa of Tigray.

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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

Post by pushkin » 20 Feb 2020, 23:46

Agames days of lying, and stealing our history and culture is over. We are not and have never been related to Agames. Whether you like it or not, we are the first people to introduce civiliation in the Horn of Africa :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .
Digital Weyane wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 19:58
ዳውን ዳውን ቬሮኒካ መላኩ! :evil:
ዳውን ዳውን ቬሮኒካ መላኩ! :evil:
ዳውን ዳውን ቬሮኒካ መላኩ! :evil:

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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

Post by Digital Weyane » 21 Feb 2020, 00:03

The strategy our Weyane leaders followed to make Issayas Afewerki look like a Tigraway in order to force Eritreans hate him, has backfired on us, because it has made us Tegaru the most hated people around the world. It was a wrong strategy from the beginning, even though it was meant to serve our Abay Tigray Republic's agenda. :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

Post by pushkin » 21 Feb 2020, 00:19

:mrgreen: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:
Digital Weyane wrote:
21 Feb 2020, 00:03
The strategy our Weyane leaders followed to make Issayas Afewerki look like a Tigraway in order to force Eritreans hate him, has backfired on us, because it has made us Tegaru the most hated people around the world. It was a wrong strategy from the beginning, even though it was meant to serve our Abay Tigray Republic's agenda. :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

Post by Zmeselo » 21 Feb 2020, 00:36

The TPLF will be squeezed out, by the Tegaru themselves ... Let's just maintain the status quo.
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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

Post by Kuasmeda » 21 Feb 2020, 00:58

I, Agames are not proud of who their identity.
2, why do they want to be ERITREANS? Could it be:
3, Their history is full of lies, back-stabbing to(ERITREANS, and Ethiopians)
4, Agames are just evils by nature.
5, Agames are the most hated sub-humans-
6, Tgames have the lowest selfesteeme ever!!

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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

Post by Zreal » 21 Feb 2020, 00:58

You only told us half truth. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Afewerki’s root is from Tembien in eastern Tigray while Adanesh’s root is from Megariya Xemri and Yeha (መጋርያ ጸምሪ ዎ ይሓ) in western Tigray. Kegnezmatch and Adanesh had 11 children. Later in mid life, Afewerki immigrated from Aba Shawl to Tigray under the guidance of his father and mentor Dejezmatch Abraha Hagos. Afewerki began to maintain an independent living in Mekelle, Tigray for the rest of his life. Afewerki was honoured with two aristocratic ranks in Tigray. First he was honoured Kentiba Afewerki (ከንቲባ ኣፈወርቂ). After few years he was honoured with a much bigger rank, Kegnezmatch Afewerki (ቀኘዝማች ኣፈወርቂ).

Kegnezmatch Afewerki had his own home and a mistress in Mekelle while maintaining his long distance love with Weizoro Adanesh Berhe, who was living in Geza Berhanu and latter in Geza Kenisha in Asmara. He was constantly travelling Mekelle to Asmara and vice versa to maintain both the legitimate and illegitimate relations. That way, Kegnezmatch fathered 11 children in the long distance love with Adanesh Berhe.

Kegnezmatch Afewerki worked in Mekelle, in the office of Ministry of Land Reform and Administration of Imperial Ethiopian Government, until his retirement in the mid 70s. Kegnezmatch



pushkin wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 23:17
Isaias Afewerki was born in 1946 in the village of Tselot in Asmara, Eritrea, to parents Afwerki Abraha and Adanesh Berhe. His father, Ato Afwerki, a native of Tselot village in Zoba Maekel, just outside Asmara, was working at a state-owned company, Tobacco Monopoly. His mother, Woizero Adanesh, was from Adidubus village in Zoba Debub. Isaias grew up in Asmara and graduated from Prince Makonnen High School (PMSS) in 1965. After passing the General School Leaving Certificate, he was admitted to the highly competitive College of Engineering at Haile Selassie I University (now called Addis Ababa University) in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. However, a year later in September 1966, he decided to join forces engaged in the Eritrean Armed Struggle for Independence.
Zreal wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 22:13
Can you disprove this family Tree of King Isaias by posting what you think the correct family tree if him. Otherwise I sand with the given data!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
pushkin wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 21:48
The zreal moron! Is this the Holly bible? Stupid people like you base their arguement on any source or images without checking its reliability. I am sorry this a is scientfic explanation beyond the capacity of Liwach liwach or bella roba person like you. It is a family tree sketched by some idiots who tried to show that the PIA is related to Bezbiz kassa of Tigray.

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Post by pushkin » 21 Feb 2020, 03:27

The copy paste Agame! If you copy & paste every garbage article & pictures then you will nou ubderstand the reality. Which half is remained? Here are also additional Information :!:
President Isaias Afwerki's Biography
Name: Isaias Afwerki Afwerki literally means 'mouth of gold'
Age: February 2, 1946 Born in Asmara, Eritrea to Eritrean parents
Wife: Saba Haile Saba was a former freedom fighter for EPLF
Children: Two boys & one girl Abraham, Berhane and Elsa
Religion: Orthodox Christian Eritrean Orthodox is among the world's oldest faiths
Height: 6'3" tall (190.5cm) One of the tallest African Head of State
Education: Addis Ababa Uni. Former engineering student before joining ELF
Zreal wrote:
21 Feb 2020, 00:58
You only told us half truth. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post by Meleket » 22 Feb 2020, 04:18

ነዚ ኩሉ ጉድ ናይ ብኣል ኣሉላ ምስ ነበብናስ፡ እዚኣ ጥቅሲ እምበር ተዘኪራትና!

“ዘይገሃድ ኅቡእ የልቦን፣ ዘይግለጽ ሥውር ድማ የልቦን።”
:mrgreen:

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Re: የትግራይ ብሄርተኞች የማንነት ቀውስና የትግራይ ትግርኛ ቅዠት (ቬሮኒካ መላኩ) !

Post by YAY » 22 Feb 2020, 05:30

Dear Zreal: How do you know what you said is real? Where is the "root" of the people of Tembien, YeHa, or Tigraiy?


One Tigraiyan source of information says that he personally knows that Yohannes IV's brother was a"Lij" and not a "Ras". And "Lij" Hagos could not be the ancestor of Afwerki or Issaias. What do you say now? What is the significance to you if Issaias Afwerki's "root" is Tigray? Even if it is proven to be true,it does not stop him from being an Eritrean. Regardless of Afwerki's "root", Issaias Afwerki is Eritrean; and that is a fact as well as real.
ራእሲዶ ልጅ ሐጎስ
ትግራዋይነት ፕረሲደንት ኢሣያስ ኣብ መንጎ ኤርትራውያን ብፍላይ ድማ ኣብ ከባቢ ተቃወምቱ [1] ብሰፊሑ ዝንገር እዩ:: ሕዝብታት ትግራይን ኤርትራን: ብፍላይ ድማ ትግርኛ ተዛርብቲ ኤርትራውያንን ንነዊሕ ዘመናት ዝጸንሐ ባህላውን ታሪኻውን ጥምረት ዘለዎም ሕዝብታት ስለ ዝኾኑ ሐደ ኤርትራዊ ዘርኢ ትግራይ እንተሃለዎ ከምኡውን ሓደ ትግራዋይ ዘርኢ ኤርትራ እንተሃለዎ ዘገርም ኣይኮነን:: ኤርትራውያን ኣይኮነን ምስቶም ጎረቤቶም ዝኾኑን ከምኦም ቋንቋ ትግርኛ ዝዛረቡ ተጋሩን ናይ ደምቢያ ዘርኢ ዘለዎም ኤርትራውያን ከምዘለዉ ዝሓለፉ ዓብበይትን ታሪኽን ዝምስክሮ እዩ::

ኣብዚ ቀረባ ዓመታት ድማ ፕረሲደንት ኢሳያስ ካብ ቤተ ሰብ እንዳ ወይዘሮ መድኅን በራድ ጥራይ ዘይኮነስ ካብ ቤተ መንግሥቲ ትግራይ እውን ከምዝውለድ እናተጸውየ ይርከብ:: ሓቂ እንተዝኸውን ነይሩ እዚውን ዘደንቅ ኣይምኾነን ነይሩ:: ናይዛ ጽሑፍ እዚኣ ጸሓፊ ዝፈልጦምኳ ካብ እንዳ ነገሥታት ትግራይ ዝውለዱ ብዙሓት ኤርትራውያን ኣለው::

እቶም ናይ ፕረሲደንት ኢሳያስ ወለዲ እዮም ዝበሃሉ ቤተ ሰብ ጥንታውያን ዘይኮኑስ ቅድሚ 150 ዓመት ዝነበሩ ስለዝኾኑ ደቆምን ደቂ ደቆምን እኳ እንተሓለፉ ሳልሳይ ወለዶ ሎምውን ብሕይወት ስለዘለዉ ኣሰሮም ገና ስለዘይሃሰሰ ብቀሊሉ ንድሕሪት ተመሊስካ ክመሳኸር ዝኽእል እዩ::

ኣብዚ ጊዜ እዚ ብሰፊሑ ዝጸሐፍን ዝንገርን ዘሎ ፕረሲደንት ኢሳያስ ኣቦ ጎይታናኡ ሓው ሃጸይ ዮሐንስ ራእሲ ሐጎስ እዮም እና ተባህለ እዩ:: መብዛሕተኦም እቶም ጸሐፍቲ ድማ ከምዚ ዝብሉ
“ ፕረሲደንት ኢሳያስ ውልቀ መላኺነቱ ካብቶም መሳፍንታውያን ዝወረሶ እዩ ” ንዝብል ኣመለኻኽተኦም ንምድጋፍ ይመስል:: እቲ ሓቂ ግን ካብዚ ዝተፈልየ እዩ::

ርግጽ እዩ ሹምተምቤን ምርጫ ወልደኪዳንን ወይዘሮ ሥላስ ድምጹን ካብቶም ሽዱሽተ ደቆም ሓደ ሓጎስ ዝበሃሉ ነይሮም:: ምስ ክልቲኦም ዓበይቲ (ጉግሳን ካሣን) ብሃጸይ ቴዎድስሮስ ተኣሲሮም ጸንሖም: ብምሕረት ተፈቲሖም ናብ ዓዶም ክምለሱ ከለዉ እቶም ክልተ ዓበይቲ ኣሕዋቶም ካብ ሃጸይ ቴዎድሮስ ናይ ደገዝማቲነት ማዕርግ ክረኽቡ ከለዉ ንሶም ግን ቀሚስ በዓል ጋዳ ጥራይ እዮም ለቢሶም:: ከም ኣሕዋቶም ደገዝማቲ ስለ ዘይተብሃሉ ይመስል ነቲ ሹመት ኣይተቀበልዎን: ናብ ትግራይ ምስ ተመልሱ ድማ “ሓደ ሰብ በዓል ጋዳ ከይብለኒ“ ኢሎም በቲ ናይ ቀደም መስፍናዊ መዓርጎም ልጅ ሓጎስ ተባሂሎም ብምጽዋዕ ቀጺሎም::

ልጅ ሐጎስ ምርጫ ብመንእሰይነቶም እዮም ሞይቶም:: ሓዎም ሃጸይ ዮሐንስ ክነግሱ ከለዉ ብህይወት ኣይነበሩን:: ስለዚ ካልእ ተወሳኺ መዓርግ ከይረኸቡ ልጅ እናተባህሉ እዮም ሓሊፎም:: ልጅ ሓጎስ ወይዘሮ በተሃ ዝተባህላ ጸለምተይቲ ኣእትዮም ወይዘሮ ኣበራሽ ዝተባህላ ሓንቲ ክወልዱ ከለዉ ካብ ካሊእቲ ሰበይቲ ድማ ወይዘሮ ደስታ ዝተባህላ ወሊዶም እዮም ሓሊፎም :: ብዘይካ እዘን ክልተ ኣንስቲ ካልእ ውላድ ኣይነበሮም::

ንምጥቅላል እቶም ሓው ሃጸይ ዮሓንስ ዝኾኑ ሓጎስ ራእሲ ኣይነበሩን: ኣብርሃ ይኹን ካሊእ ዝበሃል ተባዕታይ ውላድ ኣይገደፉን:: ካብ ደቂ ወይዘሮ ኣበራሽ ሓንቲ ዝኾና ብመውስቦ ናብ ኤርትራ ኣትየን እየን: ንሰን እውን ዝኣተወኦ ናብ ደቡብ ሰራየ እምበር ናብ ሓማሴን ስለዘይኮነ ምስ ፕረሲደንት ኢሳያስ ኮነ ምስ ቤተሰቡ አፍልጦ ይኹን ርክብ የብለንን::

ብኻልእ ወገን ድማ ካብ መኳንንቲ ሃጸይ ዮሐንስ ራእሲ ሓጎስ ዝበሃሉ ነይሮም:: ራእሲ ሓጎስ እንግዳ ዓዶም ቆላ ተምቤን ኣምበራ መጠቃ ኣብ ዝተባህለ ከባቢ ክኸውን ከሎ ሓደ ካብቶም ሃጸይ ዮሓንስ ናብ ርእስነት ዘብጽሕዎም መኳንንቲ ትግራይ እዮም:: ታሪኽ ከምዝስንዶ ራእሲ ሓጎስ ድሕሪ ኲናት መተመማ ምስ ራእሲ ኣሉላ ብዝነበሮም ዘይምቅዳው ኣብ ኲናት በጺሖም ኣብቲ ኲናት ድማ ራእሲ ኣሉላ ክቆስሉ ከለዉ ንሶም ግን በዓቀይቶት ራእሲ ኣሉላ ተማሪኾም:: ራእሲ ኣሉላ ብሰንኪ መውጋእቶም ከም ዝሞቱን ራእሲ ሓጎስ ድማ ድሕሪ ምምራኾም በተኸተልቲ ራእሲ ኣሉላ ከምተቀትሉ ይንገር::

ፕረሲደንት ኢሳያስ ካብ እንዳ ራእሲ ሓጎስ እንግዳ ደኾን ይኸውን? ካብ እንዳ ሓጎስ ምርጫ ግን ኣይኮነን::

ሳምረታይ ዘርኢ ሓጎስ ምርጫ
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[1] ኣብ ባህልና ወዲ ሰብዓ ዓመት ሽማግለ ብፍላይ መራሒ ናይ ሓንቲ ሀገር ኣንታ ኣይበሃልን: ነገር ግን ብወገን ኤርትራውያን እዚ ባህሊዚ ዝተረሰዐ ወይ ድማ ጊዜ ዝሓለፎ ኮይኑ ስለ ዝረአ መቅረቢ እዛ ጽሑፍ እውን: ትግራዋይ'ኳ እንተኾነ ዋንኡ ዘሕሰሮ ጨው ከምዝበሃልበቶምሰቡዝጽውዕዎኣጸዋውዓኣንታክብሎወሲኑ:
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http://www.aigaforum.com/article2016/Is ... -hagos.pdf

Zreal wrote:
21 Feb 2020, 00:58
You only told us half truth.

Afewerki’s root is from Tembien in eastern Tigray while Adanesh’s root is from Megariya Xemri and Yeha (መጋርያ ጸምሪ ዎ ይሓ) in western Tigray. Kegnezmatch and Adanesh had 11 children. Later in mid life, Afewerki immigrated from Aba Shawl to Tigray under the guidance of his father and mentor Dejezmatch Abraha Hagos. Afewerki began to maintain an independent living in Mekelle, Tigray for the rest of his life. Afewerki was honoured with two aristocratic ranks in Tigray. First he was honoured Kentiba Afewerki (ከንቲባ ኣፈወርቂ). After few years he was honoured with a much bigger rank, Kegnezmatch Afewerki (ቀኘዝማች ኣፈወርቂ).

Kegnezmatch Afewerki had his own home and a mistress in Mekelle while maintaining his long distance love with Weizoro Adanesh Berhe, who was living in Geza Berhanu and latter in Geza Kenisha in Asmara. He was constantly travelling Mekelle to Asmara and vice versa to maintain both the legitimate and illegitimate relations. That way, Kegnezmatch fathered 11 children in the long distance love with Adanesh Berhe.

Kegnezmatch Afewerki worked in Mekelle, in the office of Ministry of Land Reform and Administration of Imperial Ethiopian Government, until his retirement in the mid 70s. Kegnezmatch



pushkin wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 23:17
Isaias Afewerki was born in 1946 in the village of Tselot in Asmara, Eritrea, to parents Afwerki Abraha and Adanesh Berhe. His father, Ato Afwerki, a native of Tselot village in Zoba Maekel, just outside Asmara, was working at a state-owned company, Tobacco Monopoly. His mother, Woizero Adanesh, was from Adidubus village in Zoba Debub. Isaias grew up in Asmara and graduated from Prince Makonnen High School (PMSS) in 1965. After passing the General School Leaving Certificate, he was admitted to the highly competitive College of Engineering at Haile Selassie I University (now called Addis Ababa University) in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. However, a year later in September 1966, he decided to join forces engaged in the Eritrean Armed Struggle for Independence.
Zreal wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 22:13
Can you disprove this family Tree of King Isaias by posting what you think the correct family tree if him. Otherwise I sand with the given data!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
pushkin wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 21:48
The zreal moron! Is this the Holly bible? Stupid people like you base their arguement on any source or images without checking its reliability. I am sorry this a is scientfic explanation beyond the capacity of Liwach liwach or bella roba person like you. It is a family tree sketched by some idiots who tried to show that the PIA is related to Bezbiz kassa of Tigray.

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