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WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Mahlana » 16 Feb 2020, 12:51

Tigrai is obviously determined to become like Israel in practice!!!

We will see what our stupid enemies after just 3 years!!!!


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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 16 Feb 2020, 13:15

General advise about apartment buildings from America and other countries specially the Soviet Union project buildings experiences, all became the ghetto crime infected places. Tigray should avoid this trap, you rather build single home spread around to last forever. Apartments never been good anywhere in rich neighborhood and any other area, it invites all kind of crime, drug and other unwanted activities. Tigray should not spend money for apartments rather build single homes. Trust me on this one, I am talking from many experiences we learned in America neighborhoods. We saw in all communist countries and all the buildings last few years and became the problems for the societies where ever they were being built and Tigray will not be different. The attraction is cheaper to build to accommodate many people in small real estate but the out come in the long run is disaster and Tigray should not west its money on this project. Mekelle to Degua tembien has huge vacant lands and they can use that to build single home properties than Apartments. Very bad idea must be stopped immediately, apartments good only on campus university students, even America stopped building Apartment buildings on campus.
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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Abaymado » 16 Feb 2020, 13:40

well, the big question is : where do they get the money? the answer is simple. it is just intended to collect from the public. indirectly if the populace in Mekele can't handle to pay, their fate is to be uprooted and as result outsiders will inherit the land.

To tell the truth, Amara killil in this month alone inaugurated countless projects. even today plastic factory in Gojam was inaugurated. yesterday, in Gonder also done similarly. we don't need condominium houses now we need rather huge projects that will answer regarding to our needs.

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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Digital Weyane » 16 Feb 2020, 13:51

I agree with my Weyane brother Mahlana/Awash that our country Tigray is Africa's Singapore. We Weyane will make our birth place of Adwa the capital city of Africa! 8) 8) 8)

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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Selam/ » 16 Feb 2020, 14:37

Sore pimple woyane rat - While you have a little bit truth as regards to the ghettoization of high-rise apartments, your conclusion is immature and stupid.

I am not sure who told you that American universities have stopped to build Apartments (dormitories). TPLFleaks? First, there is no such thing called “campus” in most American universities as in Mekelle university or Addis Ababa University that are confined and secluded from the public. Western universities are usually open and part of the urban fabric and therefore their dormitory buildings blend with the city scape. Given the scarcity of urban land, they are still tearing down their low-rise dormitories to build high-rise accommodations. That has been the case in the past and it is the case now.

The Soviet-era repetitive concrete apartment blocks were for sure an eyesore and breeding ground for crimes and drug use. In Moscow alone, 5000 apartments are slated to be demolished. But they will be replaced with new apartments that are more diverse and lively. Germany had the same problem with the GDR-era plattenbauten. They torn down some of them and rehabilitate the rest rather than demolishing them. High-rise public housing projects in urban America failed because of the social and racial segregation associated with them. The story of the trouble Pruitt-Igoe apartments in St. Louis and their demolition mark the beginning of the death of modern architecture. But America still builds high-rise apartments for diverse socio-economic groups and racial backgrounds. BTW, the definition of high-rise varies from country to country. Only buildings above 7-stories are considered high-rise in America whereas a 5-stores building is also high-rise in Ethiopia.



Unfortunately, Ethiopians haven’t learnt a lesson from this and they are building repetitive and boring condominiums throughout the country. The solution seems to alleviate the housing shortage for now but the buildings will soon decay and become an eyesore just like their European and American counterparts even though drug and crime aren’t the issue in Ethiopian context. It is though stupid to advocate for only one story bungalows in Addis or Mekelle. What is needed is rather a mix of high-rise and low-rise buildings of different prototypes and a combination of income groups in both the urban centers and peripheries. It’s unfair and unsustainable to award large tract of urban plots for one family villas for the rich and shove the poor in 40 square meter condominiums on the city outskirts. I personally would rather live in a one-room tukul on a farm than in a condominium in Addis.



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Halafi Mengedi wrote:
16 Feb 2020, 13:15
General advise about apartment buildings from America and other countries specially the Soviet Union project builds experiences, all became the ghetto crime infected places. Tigray should avoid this trap, you rather build single home spread around to last forever. Apartments never been good anywhere in rich neighborhood and any other area, it invites all kind of crime, drug and other unwanted activities. Tigray should not spend money for apartments rather build single homes. Trust me on this one, I am talking from many experiences we learned in America neighborhoods. We saw in all communist countries and all the buildings last few years and became the problems for the societies where ever they were being built and Tigray will not be different. The attraction is cheaper to build to accommodate many people in small real estate but the out come in the long run is disaster and Tigray should not west its money on this project. Mekelle to Degua tembien has huge vacant lands and they can use that to build single home properties than Apartments. Very bad idea must be stopped immediately, apartments good only on campus university students, even America stopped building Apartment buildings on campus.
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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Selam/ » 16 Feb 2020, 14:42

Why not? Addis isn’t anymore a pleasant city to live in.

Digital Weyane wrote:
16 Feb 2020, 13:51
I agree with my Weyane brother Mahlana/Awash that our country Tigray is Africa's Singapore. We Weyane will make our birth place of Adwa the capital city of Africa! 8) 8) 8)

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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Abdelaziz » 16 Feb 2020, 18:23

Halafi Mengedi wrote:
16 Feb 2020, 13:15
General advise about apartment buildings from America and other countries specially the Soviet Union project buildings experiences, all became the ghetto crime infected places. Tigray should avoid this trap, you rather build single home spread around to last forever. Apartments never been good anywhere in rich neighborhood and any other area, it invites all kind of crime, drug and other unwanted activities. Tigray should not spend money for apartments rather build single homes. Trust me on this one, I am talking from many experiences we learned in America neighborhoods. We saw in all communist countries and all the buildings last few years and became the problems for the societies where ever they were being built and Tigray will not be different. The attraction is cheaper to build to accommodate many people in small real estate but the out come in the long run is disaster and Tigray should not west its money on this project. Mekelle to Degua tembien has huge vacant lands and they can use that to build single home properties than Apartments. Very bad idea must be stopped immediately, apartments good only on campus university students, even America stopped building Apartment buildings on campus.
Ayto Halafiw, I hear your concerns to some extent if these were to be public housings like those in the Ghettos of Europe and America, but these are privately to be owned fancy, modern, high-end apartments. You can even buy an entire floor. There will be studios to several bedroom-sized apartments. The single home project will be initiated by Tigrean construction magnates throughout Ethiopia. They've the capital and the vast experience to do it quickly. They are working on it. private Construction companies in Tigray had recently have agreed to build a massive construction industry, sufficient to supply domestic and regional needs . Do not forget Sur construction engineers are well-travelled across the world, well educated, highly experienced men and women, they are going to apply the best experiences from across the world, plus they know what you've said when it comes to public housing apartments.

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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Halafi Mengedi » 16 Feb 2020, 18:29

If I were, I would have built suburb city truck homes look like this than the proposed project:



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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Degnet » 16 Feb 2020, 18:42

Abaymado wrote:
16 Feb 2020, 13:40
well, the big question is : where do they get the money? the answer is simple. it is just intended to collect from the public. indirectly if the populace in Mekele can't handle to pay, their fate is to be uprooted and as result outsiders will inherit the land.

To tell the truth, Amara killil in this month alone inaugurated countless projects. even today plastic factory in Gojam was inaugurated. yesterday, in Gonder also done similarly. we don't need condominium houses now we need rather huge projects that will answer regarding to our needs.
You are right,did you know the land where the hawleti stands now is partly a land that belonged to the father of my grand mother.Enezih temerew endaltemaru nachew eko hezbun eyadere deha yemiadergut.They expect every Tigrian to say they are right,ayafrum enezih wergat,ye tekur wesha degmo keza yechohal

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Re: WOW AMAZING!! Tigrai building a new capital city with an initial budget of 50 Billion!!!!

Post by Selam/ » 17 Feb 2020, 12:17

Sore pimple woyane rat - That photo looks like Prince Williams County in Virginia. With that kind of single family houses, you’ll end up with an urban sprawl, which is devastating American cities for many reasons. Suburbs are hated by many Americans due to the fact that they are segregated, require long travel and therefore result in high energy cost, pollution and municipal expenditure. And they also involve crimes. Remember, the highest consumption of Opioid occurs in suburbs. The largest child abduction occurs in American suburbs. Mass shootings are mostly happening in suburban like sandy hook.

If you do the same thing in Mekelle, you will end up with the same problem as Addis, such as, encroachment on farmlands, destabilizing peasants, wildlife and disturbing the ecosystem. The number of cars in Addis is very low compared to the number of people and yet the streets are clogged. That’s mainly because of the long travel between workplaces and residences. For example, thousands of single family houses and condominiums are mushrooming in Koye Feche and yet the residents still work in Merkato and Piassa. If the planners were intending to make these people work and live in Koye Feche, that’s a huge failure. Who then works in the center?

I tell you, a smart planning is the one that mixes different income groups and housing models whether it is in the center or on the outskirts without urban sprawl. I mean, walk around National Theatre in Addis around 8pm. It looks like a ghost town because they bulldozed all the shanty quarters to ground and replaced them with banks and insurance companies that operate only during day time. A smart approach would have been to rearrange and reallocate the entire area so the existing social fabric stays in place with a smaller footprint, freeing the street front to the bank and insurance companies. Those families would strive in the same neighborhood without additional transportation costs and the city would remain lively 24/7. This has been successfully experimented in many other countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017 ... ng-project

Remember, you’re still a KIFU Woyane.

Halafi Mengedi wrote:
16 Feb 2020, 18:29
If I were, I would have built suburb city truck homes look like this than the proposed project:


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