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Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by Eri luv » 28 Jan 2020, 02:41

Analysis by Naod Belai

Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Isaias-Abiy military offensive against Woyane would be ill-advised, bloody and the outcome will be uncertain.

Isaias has gone without war for 20 years. He has had 20 rounds of Sawa training cycles since, which means he has at least 100,000 disposable conscripts ready for war (see Sawa 25th Anniversary military show, July 2019). So, he may feel he is ready for another military adventure. But, going along with Isaias would be a dangerous move for Dr. Abiy’s administration. Abiy will be repeating Haileslassie’s mistake, where the emperor’s army along with British airforce attacked the First Woyane in the 1940s. Even though the Ethio-British coalition defeated the first Woyane militarily at the time, the second Woyane rose up 20 years later in the 1970s to vindicate the defeat of its forefathers by the British assisted Amharas . Now, if Dr. Abiy thinks Eritrea- Assisted Amhara military offensive can defeat Woyane for good, he will be ill-advised and better think twice for the following reasons.

First, the current Woyane is much better equipped militarily, financially as well as intelligence wise than the first Woyane. Keep in mind that the entire Ethiopian federal government was in their hand two years ago. Getachew Assefa had already disappeared with all the intelligence documents at his disposal. I am sure Woyane’s Tentacles are still in the federal government by way of paid spies: Amharas, Oromos, etc. so, there is no guarantee that the Ethiopian military is free of sabotaging elements from within its ranks.

Second, the Ethiopian military may not be unite in purpose. Originally, Dr. Abiy’s social base was Oromo. But, now he has shifted to the progressive party and is suspected of flirting with the old ambition of Amhara, i.e. Unitary government. Quero seems disenfranchised, perhaps leaning towards Johar. Querro is definitely not going to passionately fight against Woyane simply to conquer Tigray. There is nothing for them there. So, the Ethiopian army may not be as prepared as Dr. Abiy think.

Third, Isaias ego and Impulsiveness is a danger. He is known for miscalculating.
After arresting EPLF’s best generals and intelligence officers, Isaias is known for miscalculating the strength of his enemy’s capability. So, Dr. Abiy’s dependence on Isaias’ judgement is risky.

Fourth, contrary to Dr. Abiy’s statements, the people of Tigray and TPLF are two sides of the same coin. As much as the Tigrayan people hate the Woyane administration, the Woyane as organization was built from the ground up through the sacrifices of the sons and daughters of Tigrayans, therefore the people of Tigray do take pride in it. So, expecting to conquer Tigray easily would be the worst miscalculation Dr. Abiy will make.

Fifth, even though Isayas-Abiy coalition conquers Tigray at any cost, they should not expect the people of Tigray to welcome them by laying red carpet. One has to keep in mind that the Tigrayan people along with their Eritrean counterparts take pride in defeating the Italians, the Egyptians in Dogali, Gura, Gundet, and finally along with the rest of Ethiopians in the battle of Adowa. Now, would Dr. Abiy really be fool enough to engage these battle-hardened people? If he believes he can conquer Tigray because he has greater number of troops, 4 billion worth of sophisticated military arsenal recently bought, and a back up from the Eritreans in the north, he is greatly mistaken and risks having to deal with a greater chaos.

Sixth, the Eritrean ‘Kebessa’ people are ethnically related with the Tigrayans in Ethiopia. Even though they have fought against each other bloody battles in the past, the recent one being the Badme war, these two people are also known to put aside their differences to fight against anyone that threatens their common interest. For example, they fought against Drgue or Amhara rulers. So, Dr. Abiy cannot rely on the Eritreans for back up because Eritrean troops may switch loyalty any moment for the aforementioned reason.

In view of the six factors I mentioned, my advice for Dr. Abiy would be to read the history of Tigrayans and Eritreans. Additionally, by virtue of their geography, they were always defending against invaders. Therefore, fighting is almost second nature to them and don’t take losing well. If the going gets tough, they may agree to surrender and go underground only to launch another rebellion to restore their dignity. In this regard, Tigrayans and Eritreans are like the Taliban, who survived the bombardment of super power for 20 years. They will take the fire for their dignity.

Naod Belai
January 27, 2020


ATV: ኣቢይ ኣሕመድ ኣስመራ ዝገብሮ ዘሎ ምብጻሕ መዛዘሚ ኣብ ወርሒ ዝገበሮ፡ ንወያነ ንምጥቃዕ ዝዓለመ 3 ምስጢራዊ ምባጽሓት ምዃኑ ተፈሊጡ


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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by Dawi » 28 Jan 2020, 03:20

Eri luv wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 02:41
Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.
Eri luv,

“The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

I understand "Military offensive" is may be tempting for PFDJ/p2 but, such an alliance should be and is necessary for reasons far beyond defeating TPLF.

Agree in bringing the old Federation back for one. How would TPLF fight such an alliance? For the sake of the two people, PIA/Abiy can/should delver such peace to the two people not another bloody WAR. The suffering people of the region deserve it! And a great legacy for the old man PIA.

Cheers!
Eri luv wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 02:41
Analysis by Naod Belai

Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Isaias-Abiy military offensive against Woyane would be ill-advised, bloody and the outcome will be uncertain.

Isaias has gone without war for 20 years. He has had 20 rounds of Sawa training cycles since, which means he has at least 100,000 disposable conscripts ready for war (see Sawa 25th Anniversary military show, July 2019). So, he may feel he is ready for another military adventure. But, going along with Isaias would be a dangerous move for Dr. Abiy’s administration. Abiy will be repeating Haileslassie’s mistake, where the emperor’s army along with British airforce attacked the First Woyane in the 1940s. Even though the Ethio-British coalition defeated the first Woyane militarily at the time, the second Woyane rose up 20 years later in the 1970s to vindicate the defeat of its forefathers by the British assisted Amharas . Now, if Dr. Abiy thinks Eritrea- Assisted Amhara military offensive can defeat Woyane for good, he will be ill-advised and better think twice for the following reasons.

First, the current Woyane is much better equipped militarily, financially as well as intelligence wise than the first Woyane. Keep in mind that the entire Ethiopian federal government was in their hand two years ago. Getachew Assefa had already disappeared with all the intelligence documents at his disposal. I am sure Woyane’s Tentacles are still in the federal government by way of paid spies: Amharas, Oromos, etc. so, there is no guarantee that the Ethiopian military is free of sabotaging elements from within its ranks.

Second, the Ethiopian military may not be unite in purpose. Originally, Dr. Abiy’s social base was Oromo. But, now he has shifted to the progressive party and is suspected of flirting with the old ambition of Amhara, i.e. Unitary government. Quero seems disenfranchised, perhaps leaning towards Johar. Querro is definitely not going to passionately fight against Woyane simply to conquer Tigray. There is nothing for them there. So, the Ethiopian army may not be as prepared as Dr. Abiy think.

Third, Isaias ego and Impulsiveness is a danger. He is known for miscalculating.
After arresting EPLF’s best generals and intelligence officers, Isaias is known for miscalculating the strength of his enemy’s capability. So, Dr. Abiy’s dependence on Isaias’ judgement is risky.

Fourth, contrary to Dr. Abiy’s statements, the people of Tigray and TPLF are two sides of the same coin. As much as the Tigrayan people hate the Woyane administration, the Woyane as organization was built from the ground up through the sacrifices of the sons and daughters of Tigrayans, therefore the people of Tigray do take pride in it. So, expecting to conquer Tigray easily would be the worst miscalculation Dr. Abiy will make.

Fifth, even though Isayas-Abiy coalition conquers Tigray at any cost, they should not expect the people of Tigray to welcome them by laying red carpet. One has to keep in mind that the Tigrayan people along with their Eritrean counterparts take pride in defeating the Italians, the Egyptians in Dogali, Gura, Gundet, and finally along with the rest of Ethiopians in the battle of Adowa. Now, would Dr. Abiy really be fool enough to engage these battle-hardened people? If he believes he can conquer Tigray because he has greater number of troops, 4 billion worth of sophisticated military arsenal recently bought, and a back up from the Eritreans in the north, he is greatly mistaken and risks having to deal with a greater chaos.

Sixth, the Eritrean ‘Kebessa’ people are ethnically related with the Tigrayans in Ethiopia. Even though they have fought against each other bloody battles in the past, the recent one being the Badme war, these two people are also known to put aside their differences to fight against anyone that threatens their common interest. For example, they fought against Drgue or Amhara rulers. So, Dr. Abiy cannot rely on the Eritreans for back up because Eritrean troops may switch loyalty any moment for the aforementioned reason.

In view of the six factors I mentioned, my advice for Dr. Abiy would be to read the history of Tigrayans and Eritreans. Additionally, by virtue of their geography, they were always defending against invaders. Therefore, fighting is almost second nature to them and don’t take losing well. If the going gets tough, they may agree to surrender and go underground only to launch another rebellion to restore their dignity. In this regard, Tigrayans and Eritreans are like the Taliban, who survived the bombardment of super power for 20 years. They will take the fire for their dignity.

Naod Belai
January 27, 2020


ATV: ኣቢይ ኣሕመድ ኣስመራ ዝገብሮ ዘሎ ምብጻሕ መዛዘሚ ኣብ ወርሒ ዝገበሮ፡ ንወያነ ንምጥቃዕ ዝዓለመ 3 ምስጢራዊ ምባጽሓት ምዃኑ ተፈሊጡ


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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by Abdelaziz » 28 Jan 2020, 05:50

Dawi aka Jason, anchigi'matam aqaTarit, did you forget weyane crushed the dergue while putting shabia in quarantine? You bi'tch, Tigray can destroy both whether they federate or confederate, Tigry decides whether qoshasha Ethiopia and/or cursedartera survive/s. Mark my words!

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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by RasTT1st » 28 Jan 2020, 12:21

Abdelaziz wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 05:50
Dawi aka Jason, anchigi'matam aqaTarit, did you forget weyane crushed the dergue while putting shabia in quarantine? You bi'tch, Tigray can destroy both whether they federate or confederate, Tigry decides whether qoshasha Ethiopia and/or cursedartera survive/s. Mark my words!
Whatever floats your boat, we both know you did nothing against dergue.keep barking.

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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by Degnet » 28 Jan 2020, 12:45

Dawi wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 03:20
Eri luv wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 02:41
Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.
Eri luv,

“The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

I understand "Military offensive" is may be tempting for PFDJ/p2 but, such an alliance should be and is necessary for reasons far beyond defeating TPLF.

Agree in bringing the old Federation back for one. How would TPLF fight such an alliance? For the sake of the two people, PIA/Abiy can/should delver such peace to the two people not another bloody WAR. The suffering people of the region deserve it! And a great legacy for the old man PIA.

Cheers!
Eri luv wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 02:41
Analysis by Naod Belai

Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Isaias-Abiy military offensive against Woyane would be ill-advised, bloody and the outcome will be uncertain.

Isaias has gone without war for 20 years. He has had 20 rounds of Sawa training cycles since, which means he has at least 100,000 disposable conscripts ready for war (see Sawa 25th Anniversary military show, July 2019). So, he may feel he is ready for another military adventure. But, going along with Isaias would be a dangerous move for Dr. Abiy’s administration. Abiy will be repeating Haileslassie’s mistake, where the emperor’s army along with British airforce attacked the First Woyane in the 1940s. Even though the Ethio-British coalition defeated the first Woyane militarily at the time, the second Woyane rose up 20 years later in the 1970s to vindicate the defeat of its forefathers by the British assisted Amharas . Now, if Dr. Abiy thinks Eritrea- Assisted Amhara military offensive can defeat Woyane for good, he will be ill-advised and better think twice for the following reasons.

First, the current Woyane is much better equipped militarily, financially as well as intelligence wise than the first Woyane. Keep in mind that the entire Ethiopian federal government was in their hand two years ago. Getachew Assefa had already disappeared with all the intelligence documents at his disposal. I am sure Woyane’s Tentacles are still in the federal government by way of paid spies: Amharas, Oromos, etc. so, there is no guarantee that the Ethiopian military is free of sabotaging elements from within its ranks.

Second, the Ethiopian military may not be unite in purpose. Originally, Dr. Abiy’s social base was Oromo. But, now he has shifted to the progressive party and is suspected of flirting with the old ambition of Amhara, i.e. Unitary government. Quero seems disenfranchised, perhaps leaning towards Johar. Querro is definitely not going to passionately fight against Woyane simply to conquer Tigray. There is nothing for them there. So, the Ethiopian army may not be as prepared as Dr. Abiy think.

Third, Isaias ego and Impulsiveness is a danger. He is known for miscalculating.
After arresting EPLF’s best generals and intelligence officers, Isaias is known for miscalculating the strength of his enemy’s capability. So, Dr. Abiy’s dependence on Isaias’ judgement is risky.

Fourth, contrary to Dr. Abiy’s statements, the people of Tigray and TPLF are two sides of the same coin. As much as the Tigrayan people hate the Woyane administration, the Woyane as organization was built from the ground up through the sacrifices of the sons and daughters of Tigrayans, therefore the people of Tigray do take pride in it. So, expecting to conquer Tigray easily would be the worst miscalculation Dr. Abiy will make.

Fifth, even though Isayas-Abiy coalition conquers Tigray at any cost, they should not expect the people of Tigray to welcome them by laying red carpet. One has to keep in mind that the Tigrayan people along with their Eritrean counterparts take pride in defeating the Italians, the Egyptians in Dogali, Gura, Gundet, and finally along with the rest of Ethiopians in the battle of Adowa. Now, would Dr. Abiy really be fool enough to engage these battle-hardened people? If he believes he can conquer Tigray because he has greater number of troops, 4 billion worth of sophisticated military arsenal recently bought, and a back up from the Eritreans in the north, he is greatly mistaken and risks having to deal with a greater chaos.

Sixth, the Eritrean ‘Kebessa’ people are ethnically related with the Tigrayans in Ethiopia. Even though they have fought against each other bloody battles in the past, the recent one being the Badme war, these two people are also known to put aside their differences to fight against anyone that threatens their common interest. For example, they fought against Drgue or Amhara rulers. So, Dr. Abiy cannot rely on the Eritreans for back up because Eritrean troops may switch loyalty any moment for the aforementioned reason.

In view of the six factors I mentioned, my advice for Dr. Abiy would be to read the history of Tigrayans and Eritreans. Additionally, by virtue of their geography, they were always defending against invaders. Therefore, fighting is almost second nature to them and don’t take losing well. If the going gets tough, they may agree to surrender and go underground only to launch another rebellion to restore their dignity. In this regard, Tigrayans and Eritreans are like the Taliban, who survived the bombardment of super power for 20 years. They will take the fire for their dignity.

Naod Belai
January 27, 2020


ATV: ኣቢይ ኣሕመድ ኣስመራ ዝገብሮ ዘሎ ምብጻሕ መዛዘሚ ኣብ ወርሒ ዝገበሮ፡ ንወያነ ንምጥቃዕ ዝዓለመ 3 ምስጢራዊ ምባጽሓት ምዃኑ ተፈሊጡ

This is what I have read written by one Eritrean on Facebook concerning this article.Blessed are the peace makers,with all our shortcomings.

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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by kerenite » 28 Jan 2020, 13:48

If I were a weyanne (thanks god I ain't) I would worry much. Why?

Dr. Abie ain't alone, this time he brought with him to Eritrea his strong man megersa the defense minister. I smell a fish here.

Other than that....

The good news, astobyiawian neniresom kibalaliAu jemirom allewu maletsi selamawi selfi ab debre gelemele or ab kalie nay amHara Aaditat rampant koynu allo amlak yiHagizom kitsiluwo dma nsu iyu timinitna. Amlak timintna yifetsimelna. As I always say (not without a reason) bitintin natom niAana deqibat eritrawyian (minus the ethiophiles) bizuH teQamin future stable eritrea herald zigebir wey zimisrit iyu.

Some idiots may consider what I wrote above as just emotionally driven. No at all!!!

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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by Justice Seeker » 28 Jan 2020, 13:55

This is not our war.The people of Akele Guzai and Seraye will not play the roll of Ethiopia's foot soldier to make Eritrea part of Ethiopia again.ብሰንኪ ንቑጽ ይልከም ርሑስ እዩ ነገሩ





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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by Degnet » 28 Jan 2020, 13:56

Yes funny,you have the right,you are seeing it from a moslim view point,you think your history is superior than others'.I believe in living together on the bases of mutual respect,even Italy did it.Thanks to the history of Hatse Yohannes in this.Exodus.

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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by kerenite » 28 Jan 2020, 15:23

Degnet wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 13:56
Yes funny,you have the right,you are seeing it from a moslim view point,you think your history is superior than others'.I believe in living together on the bases of mutual respect,even Italy did it.Thanks to the history of Hatse Yohannes in this.Exodus.
Qeshi deginet,

I have never ever ridiculed your faith and I have always :lol: expected from you to respect my faith equally as an elderly tigrayian as you claim likewise.

But to the contrary, the more you ridicule my faith The more i love it and adhere to it. Thank you.

Finally....

Let me be rough to you (usually it ain't in my character) you are rude and an sob fanatic sometimes.

You are 24/7 on this forum

Do you have by the way any real job other than the hatyatish atabkulish job posing as a priest and which generates few dollars? Wink... wink... :wink:

Call it a spare job.

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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by Zmeselo » 28 Jan 2020, 16:05



Sixth, the Eritrean ‘Kebessa’ people are ethnically related with the Tigrayans in Ethiopia. Even though they have fought against each other bloody battles in the past, the recent one being the Badme war, these two people are also known to put aside their differences to fight against anyone that threatens their common interest.

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Re: Abiy-Isaias Unholy Alliance & Joint Military offensive against TPLF will perpetuate conflict in the region.

Post by Digital Weyane » 28 Jan 2020, 23:15

I am really scared. Issayas and Abiy are making war plans to destroy our TPLF democratic leaders. Tigray without TPLF is like fish without water. I wish Issayas and Abiy fight us on this Mereja forum where we Weyane reign supreme! 8) 8) 8)

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