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Re: The truth about Eritrea!!!

Post by simbe11 » 31 Dec 2019, 10:44

You are hilariously hilarious!!!
You made up some while repeating what most of us in this forum already know.
pushkin wrote:
30 Dec 2019, 20:04
The LOW IQ digital hamema Agame simbe & other Agames are hallucinating about Eritrea day and night due to the failure of the Greater Tigray project. Such a failure has created them traumatic syndrome beyond repair. Here is the fact and truth about Eritrea. I hope you will not commit suicide after reading the article. If you can't understand the overall concept, you can ask others to brief you in a language you can understand.

Eritrea existed as a political entity from approximately 100-940. Its strategic location on the Red Sea has made Eritrea to be dominated by colonial rule. Turks, Egyptians, Italians, British, and Ethiopians have all colonized Eritrea over the years. During the modern European scramble for Africa, Eritrea fell under the colonial rule of Italy in 1890. Sustained resistance to Italian rule developed into a unified sense of Eritrean nationalism among the various ethnic groups in the country.

In 1941, after the Italians were defeated, Eritrea and Somaliland were placed under the British Military Administration. As a loser in the World War II, Italy relinquished its legal right to its colonies in a 1947 treaty. A Four Power Commission of Britain, France, the Soviet Union and the United States was set up to decide on how to dispose of the former Italian colonies through negotiations. The agreement was to submit the matter to the UN General Assembly if negotiations were unsuccessful. Evidently, they could not agree on Eritrea's future. Britain proposed partition of Eritrea, with the western parts to go to the Sudan and the highlands and coastal strip to go to Ethiopia while the United States suggested complete union with Ethiopia. France proposed Trust Territory with Italian administration while the Soviet Union argued for Trust Territory under international administration. The problem was referred to the UN who set up a Commission of five countries (Burma, Guatemala, Norway, Pakistan, and South Africa) to study and propose a solution.

The idea of partition was rejected outright. Guatemala and Pakistan proposed the standard formula of the UN Trusteeship leading to independence, but others favored close association with Ethiopia. For example, Norway wanted full union while Burma and South Africa favored federation with some autonomy. Meanwhile, Ethiopian emperor Haile Selassie was working hard on the diplomatic front to acquire Eritrea. The United States backed Eritrea's federation with Ethiopia and UN Resolution 390A was passed to that effect. This decision was made without giving due attention to the overwhelming presence of groups who were mobilizing the population for independence. From September 1951 Eritrea became an autonomous territory federated with Ethiopia. Obviously, US strategic interests in the Red Sea and its close ties with the emperor did play major role in influencing the final decision. The United States of America put enormous pressure to have Ethiopia administer Eritrea. The federation, which lasted from September 1951 to 1962 did not succeed to bring harmonious integration of the entities as Ethiopia soon started to impose more direct rule at its will. The UN ignored Eritrea's protests against Ethiopia's intervention in the autonomous rule, and Ethiopia formally annexed Eritrea 1962.

A year earlier, in September 1961, the Eritrean Liberation Front (ELF) launched the armed struggle for independence. By 1970, when the Eritrean People's Liberation Front (EPLF) was created from within the Eritrean Liberation Front (ELF), Eritrea had become the emperor's main preoccupation. EPLF is the organization that led Eritrea to independence in 1991. After the emperor was overthrown in 1974, the self-styled Marxist military dictatorship, called Dergue, stepped up its campaign against Eritreans. With the help of Soviet Union, Korea, Cuba and other countries in the Eastern Block, the Dergue sustained a very bitter war over Eritrea between 1978 and 1991. The war left Eritrea in complete ruins. In terms of infrastructure, all basic services were virtually disrupted. Most towns were without services such as electricity, water, and transportation for much of the war years. Industrial sectors were wiped out and the ports were destroyed. Ethiopian forces bombed Massawa extensively during the last days of the war, killing many civilians, destroying most of the buildings and depopulating the area. Towards the end of the war, Ethiopia had 500,000 troops under arms, two third of them in Eritrea. At no time did the Eritrean forces number more than 100,000. It is estimated that the Dergue had spent $12 billion in military supplies for its war against Eritrea. In the 30 years of war, Eritrea lost more than 60,000 fighters and about 40,000 civilians. Hundreds of thousands were also forced into exile.

In May 1991, the EPLF captured the last Ethiopian outposts in Eritrea. Asmara, Eritrea's capital, was occupied on May 24 1991. The military leader of Ethiopia Mengistu Haile Mariam fled Addis Ababa and the Tigrean People's Liberation Front (TPLF) supported by EPLF controled & ruled Ethiopia . The EPLF created a provisional government for Eritrea, until a referendum was carried out to determine the choice of the Eritrean people denied by the UN. The referendum on 23-25 April 1993 carried out where the great majority—98.5% voted for independence. The UN certified the results and on 24 May 1993, Eritrea became Africa's 52nd independent state, and four days later it was admitted to the UN and the OAU.

The colonial boundary between Eritrea and Ethiopia, defined in a treaty between Italy and Ethiopia in July 1900, became the international boundary between the two sovereign states. The decision was consistent with the cardinal article of an OAU charter adopted in 1963, stipulating that colonial boundaries were to be respected,

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Re: The truth about Eritrea!!!

Post by pushkin » 31 Dec 2019, 12:44

It is difficult for a coconut head Agame like you to understand the fact that Eritrea has existed before Ethiopia. All religions as well entered through Eritrea. I am sure you don't understand the brief information that I posted about Eritrea if we are not able to cut your head in to two, take out the mucus and fill it with oil that can be changed every six months :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
simbe11 wrote:
31 Dec 2019, 10:44
You are hilariously hilarious!!!
You made up some while repeating what most of us in this forum already know.
pushkin wrote:
30 Dec 2019, 20:04
The LOW IQ digital hamema Agame simbe & other Agames are hallucinating about Eritrea day and night due to the failure of the Greater Tigray project. Such a failure has created them traumatic syndrome beyond repair. Here is the fact and truth about Eritrea. I hope you will not commit suicide after reading the article. If you can't understand the overall concept, you can ask others to brief you in a language you can understand.

Eritrea existed as a political entity from approximately 100-940. Its strategic location on the Red Sea has made Eritrea to be dominated by colonial rule. Turks, Egyptians, Italians, British, and Ethiopians have all colonized Eritrea over the years. During the modern European scramble for Africa, Eritrea fell under the colonial rule of Italy in 1890. Sustained resistance to Italian rule developed into a unified sense of Eritrean nationalism among the various ethnic groups in the country.

In 1941, after the Italians were defeated, Eritrea and Somaliland were placed under the British Military Administration. As a loser in the World War II, Italy relinquished its legal right to its colonies in a 1947 treaty. A Four Power Commission of Britain, France, the Soviet Union and the United States was set up to decide on how to dispose of the former Italian colonies through negotiations. The agreement was to submit the matter to the UN General Assembly if negotiations were unsuccessful. Evidently, they could not agree on Eritrea's future. Britain proposed partition of Eritrea, with the western parts to go to the Sudan and the highlands and coastal strip to go to Ethiopia while the United States suggested complete union with Ethiopia. France proposed Trust Territory with Italian administration while the Soviet Union argued for Trust Territory under international administration. The problem was referred to the UN who set up a Commission of five countries (Burma, Guatemala, Norway, Pakistan, and South Africa) to study and propose a solution.

The idea of partition was rejected outright. Guatemala and Pakistan proposed the standard formula of the UN Trusteeship leading to independence, but others favored close association with Ethiopia. For example, Norway wanted full union while Burma and South Africa favored federation with some autonomy. Meanwhile, Ethiopian emperor Haile Selassie was working hard on the diplomatic front to acquire Eritrea. The United States backed Eritrea's federation with Ethiopia and UN Resolution 390A was passed to that effect. This decision was made without giving due attention to the overwhelming presence of groups who were mobilizing the population for independence. From September 1951 Eritrea became an autonomous territory federated with Ethiopia. Obviously, US strategic interests in the Red Sea and its close ties with the emperor did play major role in influencing the final decision. The United States of America put enormous pressure to have Ethiopia administer Eritrea. The federation, which lasted from September 1951 to 1962 did not succeed to bring harmonious integration of the entities as Ethiopia soon started to impose more direct rule at its will. The UN ignored Eritrea's protests against Ethiopia's intervention in the autonomous rule, and Ethiopia formally annexed Eritrea 1962.

A year earlier, in September 1961, the Eritrean Liberation Front (ELF) launched the armed struggle for independence. By 1970, when the Eritrean People's Liberation Front (EPLF) was created from within the Eritrean Liberation Front (ELF), Eritrea had become the emperor's main preoccupation. EPLF is the organization that led Eritrea to independence in 1991. After the emperor was overthrown in 1974, the self-styled Marxist military dictatorship, called Dergue, stepped up its campaign against Eritreans. With the help of Soviet Union, Korea, Cuba and other countries in the Eastern Block, the Dergue sustained a very bitter war over Eritrea between 1978 and 1991. The war left Eritrea in complete ruins. In terms of infrastructure, all basic services were virtually disrupted. Most towns were without services such as electricity, water, and transportation for much of the war years. Industrial sectors were wiped out and the ports were destroyed. Ethiopian forces bombed Massawa extensively during the last days of the war, killing many civilians, destroying most of the buildings and depopulating the area. Towards the end of the war, Ethiopia had 500,000 troops under arms, two third of them in Eritrea. At no time did the Eritrean forces number more than 100,000. It is estimated that the Dergue had spent $12 billion in military supplies for its war against Eritrea. In the 30 years of war, Eritrea lost more than 60,000 fighters and about 40,000 civilians. Hundreds of thousands were also forced into exile.

In May 1991, the EPLF captured the last Ethiopian outposts in Eritrea. Asmara, Eritrea's capital, was occupied on May 24 1991. The military leader of Ethiopia Mengistu Haile Mariam fled Addis Ababa and the Tigrean People's Liberation Front (TPLF) supported by EPLF controled & ruled Ethiopia . The EPLF created a provisional government for Eritrea, until a referendum was carried out to determine the choice of the Eritrean people denied by the UN. The referendum on 23-25 April 1993 carried out where the great majority—98.5% voted for independence. The UN certified the results and on 24 May 1993, Eritrea became Africa's 52nd independent state, and four days later it was admitted to the UN and the OAU.

The colonial boundary between Eritrea and Ethiopia, defined in a treaty between Italy and Ethiopia in July 1900, became the international boundary between the two sovereign states. The decision was consistent with the cardinal article of an OAU charter adopted in 1963, stipulating that colonial boundaries were to be respected,

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Re: The truth about Eritrea!!!

Post by YAY » 31 Dec 2019, 15:26

Dear Ethoash: Eritrea is the Creation of the Unity of the People of Eritrea, not Italy

Don't be sorry for anybody else but yourself. Regardless of your raw sarcasm, your obvious ignorance is a teachable opportunity. Several countries/empire states (Italy, Etiyopiya/Ethiopia, Britain, France, etc.) have played their roles in shaping the frontiers and borderlines of Eritrea, but Eritrea was created primarily by the unity (for national freedom and civic---not ethnic or linguistic--- nationalism) of the Eritrean people . We still have a lot to be done to build a sustainable nation, no doubt about it.
if there is Eritrea what language [do] those Eritrea[ns] speak?
you asked. It is like asking, if there is Etiyopiya, what language do those Etiyopiyans speak? Or, if Tigraiy is a nation what language do those Tegaru speak--- Kunama, Saho, Oromo, Agaw, AmHarinya, Tigrinya, or Aafar? Similarly, Eritreans speak Eritrean language(s), is the answer. Similar to the peoples of our neighboring countries (Etiyopiya, Sudan, South Sudan, Djibouti, Kenya, etc.) who speak their languages, respectively, all Eritreans speak an Eritrean language(s), and more.
the Englsih speak English .. the French speak French the Germany speak Germany the japan speak Japanese the Somalians speak Somalia the Chinese Speak Chinese now tell me what langauge do the Eritrean speak .. there is no Eritrean language that means this is the creation of Italy
I know that you think highly of yourself, and you may disregard your shortcomings, but many of the nations you mentioned do not speak only one language as you assumed. According to your reasoning, there is no one Tigraiyan/Etiyopiyan language in Tigraiy/Etiyopiya, so there is no Tigraiy/Etiyopiya; "that means this is the creation of" AmHara or Shewa.

The Anglo-Saxon ethnicity and non-Anglo-Saxons speak English. The Anglos are dominant within the UK, but the British also speak Welsh, Scottish, Irish, etc. languages and dialects. According to your reasoning, there is no one British language, so there is no England, Britain or United Kingdom.

France is one of the first civic nations (nationality defined by citizenship of a political body, organized regardless of ethnicity, language, religion, etc., within the borders of certain territory) in the world. French is the official language, but the French also speak Vasonic, Italo-Dalmatian, Gallo-Romance, Germanic, Celtic, etc. and all are French. According to your reasoning, there is no one French language, so there is no France.

The Germans speak German, Frisian, Sorbian, Romani, Rhenish, Limburgish, Alemanic, Bavarian, and all are German. According to your reasoning, there is no one German language in Germany, so there is no Germany.

The Japanese speak Japanese, Ainu, Nivkh, Orok, Ryukyuan, Bonin English, etc. and all are Japanese. According to your reasoning, there is no one Japanese language in Japan, so there is no Japan.

The Somali, Arabic, Bravanese, Kibajuni, Mushunguli, Swahili, Garre, Tunni, Aweer, and Af-Boon are spoken in Somalia, and all are members of the nation of Somalia. According to your reasoning, there is no one Somali language in Somalia, so there is no Somalia.

China does not speak one Chinese language, but many Chinese languages. About 70% speak Mandarin, the official language, but there are 56 ethnic groups in China, and many languages and dialects are spoken. According to your reasoning, there is no one Chinese language in China, so there is no China. Tell me how good/not good your reasoning is.


Ethoash wrote:
30 Dec 2019, 13:46
simbe11 wrote:
30 Dec 2019, 12:02
There is nothing called Eritrean independence.
Eritrea is a region in Ethiopia.
Ye andinet mahber degimo liquaquam yigebal.
Our families came to Addis believing that unity with Ethiopia is the right thing to do and I still believe in it.

i am sorry this time Simbe 11 is 1000000000000000000000000000000% right if there is Eritrea what language those Eritrea speak? the Englsih speak English .. the French speak French the Germany speak Germany the japan speak Japanese the Somalians speak Somalia the Chinese Speak Chinese now tell me what langauge do the Eritrean speak .. there is no Eritrean language that means this is the creation of Italy . Tigray are in Ethiopia the North Agame are break away state that Italy created otherwise they were Ethiopians four point.. there rest of Eritrean ethnic are an independent nation that are forced in Italy colony so they should be free from Eritrean colony after referendum when everyone get their own independent state Eritrea or what left of her will be landlocked nation but at least honstly owning their own God given land instead of colonizing other smaller tribe and ethnic like their boss Italy did.. until Ethiopia free them..

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