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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Ethoash » 03 Dec 2019, 08:03

Cigar wrote:
02 Dec 2019, 21:40
Afdeyu, you apparently hate PIA. Now why is it important to you some one also hate PIA when you the one who hate him are just opening your mouth outside the country like the ones you are accusing?
old man

freedom fighter with gun is dead now we live in new generation new thinking ... old man welcome to peaceful struggle ...for sure Afdeyu, is not fool to go by himself and getting killed .. the Afdeyu, idea is to get support once he got critical support it is like one two three push and the old and tired evil empire will fail.. guess what u mr. Cigar will jump ship and u become pro Democratic that is why u dont show us your face.. if u want Afdeyu, to fight face to face then u have to show us your face too.. instead of asking other u r not willing to do is part of evil empire... no Eritrea fought for this kind of slavery.. if they had a choice they will go back to mama Ethiopia .. guess what the Eritrean voting by their foot million life under Golden rule.. in Tigray..

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Afdeyu » 03 Dec 2019, 09:41

Cigar,
I don’t hate Isaias or justo, what I hate is dictatorship . The reason I replied to him is he put me on his list of to be banned above, is ticked a nerve that this idiot lives in the west where he is free to say what he wants and still practices what Isaias is doing to our people back home. It pisses me of when people who are victims to the dictatorship, try to promote dictatorship here in the free world.
We all know that you can’t do, what you do here, back in Eritrea, you would be in jail right away.

Cigar, you know what I said is true though. You don’t have to reply here but read it again and I am sure you see how Eritrea can do better with out Isaias dictatorship. The lost opportunity is what frustrating me, we can do better.
My whole point is defend and love Eritrea, but not the dictatorship that is persecuting you and your people, and what Justo is doing is promoting Isaias practice and that’s just wrong.


Cigar wrote:
02 Dec 2019, 21:40
Afdeyu, you apparently hate PIA. Now why is it important to you some one also hate PIA when you the one who hate him are just opening your mouth outside the country like the ones you are accusing?
I mean you are not at home fighting PIA or the system.
So what if the guy you called leqlaki agrees with you that he hates PIA?
Are you going to take him back to Eritrea, raise arms, atleast die for your cause or you just want another big mouth hater of PIA?
Don't freaking lie. Any Eritrean can go back home.
But if you want to gain out of the struggle days, like opening a business or even buy a house, yes like all countries you will be asked to prove you fulfilled what the country demanded of all Eritreans.
Yes you hate PIA. I still don't get it what is your purpose to try to convince other your way.
How many of your kinds is your goal?
I don't even know if the guy you are addressing is Eritrean. But that is not the point.

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Afdeyu » 03 Dec 2019, 09:57

The one thing I like about Isaias regime is it is equal opportunity abuser and you defending some one who persecuted your family into the point they can’t take it and running away from Eritrea. If you love Eritrea defend your family first
Why are your cousins leaving Eritrea temt, arhikka temt not just being emotional
Socialism Isaias is destroying your family fabric and you know it
Stockholm syndrome is your disease, check it out
Temt wrote:
02 Dec 2019, 21:59
Cigar wrote:
02 Dec 2019, 21:40
Afdeyu, you apparently hate PIA. Now why is it important to you some one also hate PIA when you the one who hate him are just opening your mouth outside the country like the ones you are accusing?
I mean you are not at home fighting PIA or the system.
So what if the guy you called leqlaki agrees with you that he hates PIA?
Are you going to take him back to Eritrea, raise arms, atleast die for your cause or you just want another big mouth hater of PIA?
Don't freaking lie. Any Eritrean can go back home.
But if you want to gain out of the struggle days, like opening a business or even buy a house, yes like all countries you will be asked to prove you fulfilled what the country demanded of all Eritreans.
Yes you hate PIA. I still don't get it what is your purpose to try to convince other your way.
How many of your kinds is your goal?
I don't even know if the guy you are addressing is Eritrean. But that is not the point.
Cigar,
Afdeyu is another pretending to be Eritrean. I am surprised he fooled you.

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Afdeyu » 03 Dec 2019, 12:36

Spot on! Cigar must be old grandpa like Isaias, to think like that —in wars and killing your brother to win.
This’s the age of the one with best idea wins.
TPlf never thought it can loose power withOut a fight and PFDJ is thinking the same. They are old school and can’t help it
There is a saying that you can’t teach old dog, new tricks

Ethoash wrote:
03 Dec 2019, 08:03
Cigar wrote:
02 Dec 2019, 21:40
Afdeyu, you apparently hate PIA. Now why is it important to you some one also hate PIA when you the one who hate him are just opening your mouth outside the country like the ones you are accusing?
old man

freedom fighter with gun is dead now we live in new generation new thinking ... old man welcome to peaceful struggle ...for sure Afdeyu, is not fool to go by himself and getting killed .. the Afdeyu, idea is to get support once he got critical support it is like one two three push and the old and tired evil empire will fail.. guess what u mr. Cigar will jump ship and u become pro Democratic that is why u dont show us your face.. if u want Afdeyu, to fight face to face then u have to show us your face too.. instead of asking other u r not willing to do is part of evil empire... no Eritrea fought for this kind of slavery.. if they had a choice they will go back to mama Ethiopia .. guess what the Eritrean voting by their foot million life under Golden rule.. in Tigray..

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Cigar » 03 Dec 2019, 13:48

Afdeyu, Eritrea's problem is not initiated by Isayas or the Eritrean people.
If you believe that had Eritrea has not outside evils who tried hard through tplf aka Ethiopia (their darling slave) to reverse its sovereignty then you are not being genuine.
Meles saying that tplf is working hard to isolate Eritrea through IGAD, AU and UN and actually succeeded by the help of the likes of Susan mice, Obama singling Eritrean youth by enticing them to leave their country by promising them a winning lottery ticket had they done so.... meles saying in public that he, with his masters help will not tolerate the Eritrean people to go to bed full stomachs while the ethiopians go hungry is a thing him and his masters will not see happen, the international community which run by Susan mice not holding woyane responsible for the stalemate mate of the border issues and many more evils were done to kneel down Eritrea.
Had such evil was done to any other African country, trust me such countrys leader would have been ousted, the country would be like Somalia.
But PIA with the steadfast Eritrean people stood the heat and here we are starting to breath fresh air. With out compromising our principles.
So, why not give the govt say 5 years and see what would change for better than putting aside the 2 decades hardship we were facing?
Now, there is potential to all the demands some of you were asking to be resolved. But you have to keep in mind 2 decades dragging backwards is not a thing which can be fixed overnight.
Again, give the govt a little bit chance when it is at peace time not when it was fending the bricks thrown at it.
Any body who still criticizes the govt at this peace time got to be a real enemy who knows that Eritrea's future is bright for the simple fact that all the countries are flooding to Eritrea to make business ventures and that scares Eritrea's enemies because they do not want Eritrea to succeed.
Any third world country's youth will also flee their country if the USA tells them if they leave their countries they will cash a million dollar lottery ticket.
And sadly some of them perished in the sea or Sahara desert. Had they sat their asses back home they would have been alive. A dead person is a useless person.
And there are million of Eritreans alive Eritreans back home who didn't want to take that dangerous risk.
Now time will tell. Peace is in the region, employment will come and the ones who stayed will be rewarded and the ones who made it to the west who are frustrated that they thought they will collect lottery ticket but ended up sitting in street corners like beggars in a foreign land (who got duped) will return back home, of course with writing an apology forms and kissing the Eritrean govt's feet.
The last two decades Eritrea's hick up is not internally made. You know it.
If you still believe it is an internal issue, and you really love your people and you believe they are abused by their govt, then your crocodile tears is not going to change their lives. Rather than fighting with people who do not agree with you, you should go back home and at least die trying to free them from 'evil'.
In other words "put up or shut the f**k up".
Only a coward fights a fight hiding behind a fenced yard.

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Ethoash » 03 Dec 2019, 14:12

dear old man
Any third world country's youth will also flee their country if the USA tells them if they leave their countries they will cash a million dollar lottery ticket.
And sadly some of them perished in the sea or Sahara desert. Had they sat their asses back home they would have been alive. A dead person is a useless person
so why the first generation fought Ethiopia and give u freedom? based on your argument.... the first generation died for your freedom but the evil empire took that away from them.. even Castro was once a freedom fighter, once Mugabe was a freedom fighter ...the problem is that all they r freedom fighter four point...

to me what the Eritrean youth go thru i would not do it.. i will not risk my live even if their are million dollar money not lottery as u said it but actual money waiting from me at the end of the red sea... i will not do it.. but the Eritrean risk everything because they lost all the hope.. they lose everything ... when u lose everything u have nothing to lose then u r willing to take any risk at all if u see freedom beyond the red sea.. i always wonder why they call that sea a red sea no wonder now it lived to its name sake ... dear old man u have a luxury to criticized but to me this youth are freedom fighter the highest order ... trust me freedom will come ...



freedom crying ... no one can stop her.... only those how slave master doubt and question the quest for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom... well Eritrean nation will rise like African sun by red sea... (i wrote red sea.. by small litter to show it is under Eritrean slavery .. look around you even Djibouti make a living our of Red Sea . all the Arab that share the Red Sea with Eritrea expect Yemen even Yemen did not bring it on them ) i dont know when this nightmare end ..

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Dec 2019, 14:30

Ethiopian migrants tell of torture and rape in Yemen


Efta is just 17 but has experienced shocking brutality.

The Ethiopian teenager survived a treacherous boat journey being smuggled across the Red Sea.

But on reaching Yemen, she was kidnapped and driven at gunpoint to a mud brick house.

She said: "They tortured other girls in front of me. They beat us and they raped us at gunpoint. I was terrified."

She is one of 80,000 Ethiopian migrants who undertake this dangerous journey every year.

They hope they will find work in the wealthy Gulf state of Saudi Arabia and be able to send money home.

'Raped and burned'

Efta was held at what is known as a "torture camp" for three months.

She was too ashamed to ask her parents for money to set her free so she was raped every day.

Once it became clear that no ransom was going to be paid and after Efta fell ill, she was thrown out on the street.

She is now being cared for in a refugee centre run by the International Organization for Migration (IOM) in the Yemeni border town of Haradh.

She remains traumatised by her experience.

"The women get raped and the men are burned. They break bones. They take people's eyes out," she said.

"Everything you can imagine, they do it. I saw it with my own eyes."

Most of the Ethiopians we met came from the Tigray region in the north of the country.

They crossed the mountains into Djibouti and then paid people smugglers to take them across the Red Sea at its shortest point, Bab al-Mandab (or the Gate of Grief).

It was a harbinger of the trials and tribulations ahead of them where thousands are tortured and sexually exploited by people smugglers.
Hafton's story




Hafton Ekar, 23, made the journey from Ethiopia to Yemen with a group of friends.

Their aim was to find work in Saudi Arabia to support their families but they were kidnapped shortly after being smuggled into Yemen.

Hafton's father was told he needed to pay $300 to free his son but after the ransom was paid, Hafton was sold on to a 'torture camp'.

The new gang wanted another $250 but there was no money left. Hafton was brutally tortured.

"They hurt me very badly. I can't use the bathroom any more. I'm paralysed," he said.

His friends carried him on their backs when they escaped. Hafton now lies on a mattress in the refugee centre in Haradh.

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Cigar » 03 Dec 2019, 14:34

Ethioarse the site special kind idiot, Djubiutti, Ethiopia and many other countries never faced the toughest hardship Eritrea faced. The same evil countries who tried to harm Eritrea were and still are assisting Djibouti and ethiopia (untill recently)
So, why the f**k are you paralleling none relevancy crap to try to validate your stupid claim?
Had Djibouti faced what Eritrea faced, Djiboutti won't last a freaking day.
As far as you wouldn't risk your life to go abroad like our youth ask your dirty identity thieves tegarus (much more in number than ours) who used Eritreans identities and some perished like ours and some even throat sloshed why they risked their lives.
Tigray has the most refugees in the last two decades than Eritrea and Ethiopia you weasel.
If your country is better off than Eritrea why would that happen you should have asked yourself.
And don't tell me that your agames are leaving by legal means. Yes some are, but they are using Eritrea's name for easy asylum acceptance.
But majority are going abroad like the Eritreans. Heck yours actually go to Yemen in the 100ds of thousands of them.
But soon you will see ours coming home while you agames are as we speak begging Eritrea to open the border so that you can migrate to Eritrea and take over your moms and dads old jobs in Eritrea.

NB:
Stop addressing me you dumb as*s. I hate to go back and forth with you and adwusha.

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Ethoash » 03 Dec 2019, 15:50

Cigar wrote:
03 Dec 2019, 14:34
Ethioarse the site special kind idiot, Djubiutti, Ethiopia and many other countries never faced the toughest hardship Eritrea faced.
old man

now u reduced yourself to Djibouti level .. with 100,000 population and no other resources beside Red Sea.




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Massawa Friday market, Eritrea




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Eritrean Holiday Market ዕዳጋ Asmara Eritrea 2016

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Afdeyu » 03 Dec 2019, 19:39

I agree with most of what you said about outside interference, however that’s OVER now, with Woyane gone from being relevant kedami.
You said wait five years, that made me laugh because I was saying two years after peace. Trust me you will get to my level of frustration in about a year,. Because I just don’t see any change coming as socialist uncle Isaias is in power. The frustration comes from lack of progress and lost opportunities.
As to the go back and fight joke, current Eritrea is not safe even for uncle Cigar who supports PFDJ, let alone for me highly educated, free thinking, wealthy capitalist, from EPLF warriors family blood line, ...I remember though TPlf was saying the same to the jawars, Esat, and look where TPlf is and PFDJs end is going to be the same... very soon. Change is coming, like it or not.
My only request is be conscious (hilinaka mermir) of the suffering your extended family, friends, deki adika, and their children going through because of Isaias dictatorship when defending the regime, but I encourage you to continue defending the Eritrean people. They are two different things...
The Eritrea the people fought for and won is within grasp and whose side are you on dictatorship or free people.

Sesenayu
Cigar wrote:
03 Dec 2019, 13:48
Afdeyu, Eritrea's problem is not initiated by Isayas or the Eritrean people.
If you believe that had Eritrea has not outside evils who tried hard through tplf aka Ethiopia (their darling slave) to reverse its sovereignty then you are not being genuine.
Meles saying that tplf is working hard to isolate Eritrea through IGAD, AU and UN and actually succeeded by the help of the likes of Susan mice, Obama singling Eritrean youth by enticing them to leave their country by promising them a winning lottery ticket had they done so.... meles saying in public that he, with his masters help will not tolerate the Eritrean people to go to bed full stomachs while the ethiopians go hungry is a thing him and his masters will not see happen, the international community which run by Susan mice not holding woyane responsible for the stalemate mate of the border issues and many more evils were done to kneel down Eritrea.
Had such evil was done to any other African country, trust me such countrys leader would have been ousted, the country would be like Somalia.
But PIA with the steadfast Eritrean people stood the heat and here we are starting to breath fresh air. With out compromising our principles.
So, why not give the govt say 5 years and see what would change for better than putting aside the 2 decades hardship we were facing?
Now, there is potential to all the demands some of you were asking to be resolved. But you have to keep in mind 2 decades dragging backwards is not a thing which can be fixed overnight.
Again, give the govt a little bit chance when it is at peace time not when it was fending the bricks thrown at it.
Any body who still criticizes the govt at this peace time got to be a real enemy who knows that Eritrea's future is bright for the simple fact that all the countries are flooding to Eritrea to make business ventures and that scares Eritrea's enemies because they do not want Eritrea to succeed.
Any third world country's youth will also flee their country if the USA tells them if they leave their countries they will cash a million dollar lottery ticket.
And sadly some of them perished in the sea or Sahara desert. Had they sat their asses back home they would have been alive. A dead person is a useless person.
And there are million of Eritreans alive Eritreans back home who didn't want to take that dangerous risk.
Now time will tell. Peace is in the region, employment will come and the ones who stayed will be rewarded and the ones who made it to the west who are frustrated that they thought they will collect lottery ticket but ended up sitting in street corners like beggars in a foreign land (who got duped) will return back home, of course with writing an apology forms and kissing the Eritrean govt's feet.
The last two decades Eritrea's hick up is not internally made. You know it.
If you still believe it is an internal issue, and you really love your people and you believe they are abused by their govt, then your crocodile tears is not going to change their lives. Rather than fighting with people who do not agree with you, you should go back home and at least die trying to free them from 'evil'.
In other words "put up or shut the f**k up".
Only a coward fights a fight hiding behind a fenced yard.

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Re: Here is a list of people I want to ban

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 Dec 2019, 19:47

Afdeyu wrote:
03 Dec 2019, 19:39
I agree with most of what you said about outside interference, however that’s OVER now, with Woyane gone from being relevant kedami.
You said wait five years, that made me laugh because I was saying two years after peace. Trust me you will get to my level of frustration in about a year,. Because I just don’t see any change coming as socialist uncle Isaias is in power. The frustration comes from lack of progress and lost opportunities.
As to the go back and fight joke, current Eritrea is not safe even for uncle Cigar who supports PFDJ, let alone for me highly educated, free thinking, wealthy capitalist, from EPLF warriors family blood line, ...I remember though TPlf was saying the same to the jawars, Esat, and look where TPlf is and PFDJs end is going to be the same... very soon :lol: . Change is coming, like it or not. :lol: :lol:
My only request is be conscious (hilinaka mermir) of the suffering your extended family, friends, deki adika, and their children going through because of Isaias dictatorship when defending the regime, but I encourage you to continue defending the Eritrean people. They are two different things...
The Eritrea the people fought for and won is within grasp and whose side are you on dictatorship or free people.

Sesenayu
Cigar wrote:
03 Dec 2019, 13:48
Afdeyu, Eritrea's problem is not initiated by Isayas or the Eritrean people.
If you believe that had Eritrea has not outside evils who tried hard through tplf aka Ethiopia (their darling slave) to reverse its sovereignty then you are not being genuine.
Meles saying that tplf is working hard to isolate Eritrea through IGAD, AU and UN and actually succeeded by the help of the likes of Susan mice, Obama singling Eritrean youth by enticing them to leave their country by promising them a winning lottery ticket had they done so.... meles saying in public that he, with his masters help will not tolerate the Eritrean people to go to bed full stomachs while the ethiopians go hungry is a thing him and his masters will not see happen, the international community which run by Susan mice not holding woyane responsible for the stalemate mate of the border issues and many more evils were done to kneel down Eritrea.
Had such evil was done to any other African country, trust me such countrys leader would have been ousted, the country would be like Somalia.
But PIA with the steadfast Eritrean people stood the heat and here we are starting to breath fresh air. With out compromising our principles.
So, why not give the govt say 5 years and see what would change for better than putting aside the 2 decades hardship we were facing?
Now, there is potential to all the demands some of you were asking to be resolved. But you have to keep in mind 2 decades dragging backwards is not a thing which can be fixed overnight.
Again, give the govt a little bit chance when it is at peace time not when it was fending the bricks thrown at it.
Any body who still criticizes the govt at this peace time got to be a real enemy who knows that Eritrea's future is bright for the simple fact that all the countries are flooding to Eritrea to make business ventures and that scares Eritrea's enemies because they do not want Eritrea to succeed.
Any third world country's youth will also flee their country if the USA tells them if they leave their countries they will cash a million dollar lottery ticket.
And sadly some of them perished in the sea or Sahara desert. Had they sat their asses back home they would have been alive. A dead person is a useless person.
And there are million of Eritreans alive Eritreans back home who didn't want to take that dangerous risk.
Now time will tell. Peace is in the region, employment will come and the ones who stayed will be rewarded and the ones who made it to the west who are frustrated that they thought they will collect lottery ticket but ended up sitting in street corners like beggars in a foreign land (who got duped) will return back home, of course with writing an apology forms and kissing the Eritrean govt's feet.
The last two decades Eritrea's hick up is not internally made. You know it.
If you still believe it is an internal issue, and you really love your people and you believe they are abused by their govt, then your crocodile tears is not going to change their lives. Rather than fighting with people who do not agree with you, you should go back home and at least die trying to free them from 'evil'.
In other words "put up or shut the f**k up".
Only a coward fights a fight hiding behind a fenced yard.
Change ? Which change ? I do not think you know Eritrea very well.

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