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Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Bete Gojjam » 13 Nov 2019, 06:05

Raya isn’t tegaru

Raya is a clan

No Rayan calls themselves Tigre they call themselves Raya

Again Raya is more related to Wollo Amhara Clans such as Kemissie,karayu,hamino. Raya language is a creole language it’s very hard for tegarus to understand because it’s heavily influenced by amharic. Rayan language isn’t tigrayan proper.

Raya ::: Dialect of Amharic Wollo and not Tigre

Raya isn’t Tigre Raya is Wollo no true Rayan claims Tigre those are Safaris from Agame who are invading Raya like Anbetas!

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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Bete Gojjam » 13 Nov 2019, 06:32

Raya is a Amhara Clan Raya clan is only related to Amhara Wollo clans not Tigre clans

Yes Rayans Have tegaru blood due to mixing and they do speak a amharic dailect of Tigrigna but still rayans are amharas not Tigre our culture is Wollo not mekele why is our language amharic banned in Raya but mekele learns amharic???

Raya is not tageru Agames are faking being rayan using music as a propaganda don’t listen to rayan music it’s completly Agames no true rayan is Tigray

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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Abdelaziz » 13 Nov 2019, 19:21

Tra'nny Weyzero Ejeru andity budagujam telomerase, Anakondyen eskitagegni, Hamasenay booshtiew qiTishn be Raya Archumiye wugeriw.


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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Sadacha Macca » 13 Nov 2019, 22:40

fasil 1235, give up bro. you just called warra himano an amara clan, what does it mean in amharic then, i can tell u what it means in afaan oromo, ''warra'' is a popular name of oromo groups hence the groups warra ilu, warra qobo, warra rayyaa, and... karrayu is amara now too? LOL. wow. what next, you will say afran qallo are amaras too right?

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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Bete Gojjam » 13 Nov 2019, 22:46

Sadacha Macca wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:40
fucker, give up bro. you just called warra himano an amara clan, what does it mean in amharic then, i can tell u what it means in afaan oromo, ''warra'' is a popular name of oromo groups hence the groups warra ilu, warra qobo, warra rayyaa, and... karrayu is amara now too? LOL. wow. what next, you will say afran qallo are amaras too right?
Raya is Habesha

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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Sadacha Macca » 13 Nov 2019, 22:59

Bete Gojjam wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:46
Sadacha Macca wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:40
[deleted], give up bro. you just called warra himano an amara clan, what does it mean in amharic then, i can tell u what it means in afaan oromo, ''warra'' is a popular name of oromo groups hence the groups warra ilu, warra qobo, warra rayyaa, and... karrayu is amara now too? LOL. wow. what next, you will say afran qallo are amaras too right?
Raya is Habesha Kemissie is Habesha the names don’t matter Raya culture is semetic not cushitic. Although Galla brought her culture to the region most Rayas are not Boranas 😆 Raya is amhara with tigre intermarriage

Loser Kush Midget Gallaway no Rayan is Cushitic

the names are indicative of the culture, how can they not matter you silly agame fool?
raya is oromo mixed with tegaru, and some amaras too. it's not purely anything.

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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Bete Gojjam » 13 Nov 2019, 23:06

Sadacha Macca wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:59
Bete Gojjam wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:46
Sadacha Macca wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:40
[deleted], give up bro. you just called warra himano an amara clan, what does it mean in amharic then, i can tell u what it means in afaan oromo, ''warra'' is a popular name of oromo groups hence the groups warra ilu, warra qobo, warra rayyaa, and... karrayu is amara now too? LOL. wow. what next, you will say afran qallo are amaras too right?
Raya is Habesha Kemissie is Habesha the names don’t matter Raya culture is semetic not cushitic. Although Galla brought her culture to the region most Rayas are not Boranas 😆 Raya is amhara with tigre intermarriage

Loser Kush Midget Gallaway no Rayan is Cushitic

the names are indicative of the culture, how can they not matter you silly agame fool?
raya is oromo mixed with tegaru, and some amaras too. it's not purely anything.

Galla I didn’t claim Raya was pure Amhara it’s mixed with Tegarus I disagree that Raya is Oromo I believe very few Rayas have Oromo mixture because the Rayas were assimilated as a galla but nonetheless they are not fully kenyan the Rayas are predominantly ethiopian Orthodox Christians even their language is semetic what does that say about Oromo recent migrants?

You Oromos are recent migrants to Wollo so you can’t claim to be natives when your pastoralist ancestors invaded Wollo from Borana the fact is boranas are SAFARIS in Wello the name Wello is a Qursed Borana Kenyan SIM the original inhabitants are the Amara the real name is LAKOMELZA not Wello cursed safari tribe

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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by EthioRedSea » 14 Nov 2019, 00:32

Raya Rayum is Tigray in and out. But there are Oromo and amhara living there. The people speak Tigrigna and dance Oromo way. There are also Amhara tribes, who are the minority. The majority of Raya are Tigrigna speakers.
Raya has been part of Aksumite Kingdom. Around Aksum, there are tow woredas or subdistrics with names Upper Maichew and Lower Maichew. Maichew is one of the Town in Raya. The Orthodoxx Christianity is as old as Aksumite Tradition. Raya is bounded by Lalibela to the South , aksum to the North, two historical towns important for the formation of the current political order in Ethiopia.

It is wrong for some Amhara activists to claim Raya as being Amhara or Oromo. It is entiely Tigrayan. The Amharas are migrants to Raya. The problem of the Amhara is they do not speak Tigrigna and [deleted] the name of the villages, which sometimes sounds like an insult. Tigray should take al the districs and subdistrics that bear Tigrigna names.

Amharas say Telemti to Tselemti, because they cannot pronounce the "Ts". The true name of Wolqait and Tselemti should not be [deleted] by Amharas. Calling the area Telemti means is the area is dark. In Tigrigna, Tselemti means land of black people. There is a town in North Wollo called Hiberu, which under Amhara adminsitration. The Amhara call it differently somethig like Aberu. The Amhara can live where ever they want, but town and places that belong to Tigray should under the administration of Mekelle, not Amhara town.

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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Sadacha Macca » 14 Nov 2019, 02:06

Bete Gojjam wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 23:06
Sadacha Macca wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:59
Bete Gojjam wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:46
Sadacha Macca wrote:
13 Nov 2019, 22:40
[deleted], give up bro. you just called warra himano an amara clan, what does it mean in amharic then, i can tell u what it means in afaan oromo, ''warra'' is a popular name of oromo groups hence the groups warra ilu, warra qobo, warra rayyaa, and... karrayu is amara now too? LOL. wow. what next, you will say afran qallo are amaras too right?
Raya is Habesha Kemissie is Habesha the names don’t matter Raya culture is semetic not cushitic. Although Galla brought her culture to the region most Rayas are not Boranas 😆 Raya is amhara with tigre intermarriage

Loser Kush Midget Gallaway no Rayan is Cushitic

the names are indicative of the culture, how can they not matter you silly agame fool?
raya is oromo mixed with tegaru, and some amaras too. it's not purely anything.

Galla I didn’t claim Raya was pure Amhara it’s mixed with Tegarus I disagree that Raya is Oromo I believe very few Rayas have Oromo mixture because the Rayas were assimilated as a galla but nonetheless they are not fully kenyan the Rayas are predominantly ethiopian Orthodox Christians even their language is semetic what does that say about Oromo recent migrants?

You Oromos are recent migrants to Wollo so you can’t claim to be natives when your pastoralist ancestors invaded Wollo from Borana the fact is boranas are SAFARIS in Wello the name Wello is a Qursed Borana Kenyan SIM the original inhabitants are the Amara the real name is LAKOMELZA not Wello cursed safari tribe

Fasil 123456789,

Rayans mostly speak tigrinya today. But they themselves know they have oromo origin and blood. Raya is related to maccaa my clan and tuulama clan who resides mostly in shawa with amaras with whom they inter marry and share similar forms of livelihood like farming.
It's okay we accept that they are happy in tigray unless tplf foolishly harms or neglects raya and rayans.


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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Abdelaziz » 14 Nov 2019, 03:29

Sadacha Why are you limiting yourself to Warra himanu? Why not the whole thing, Wello, which means summit in Oromifa, that is, beyond Wellega, which stands for union? What about Wello's vast Borona Saint Awraja ?..... KKKKKK they changed that district to Amara Saint to fool you, and now they call it the origin of Amharu( how rude is that to your ancestors?) What about Warra babu,, Warra Illu, Warra Yeju, Desse, Kombolcha, KarraQori, Mersa, Chaffa, Robit, Gobiye, Bati, etc, etc. But they limit you to just Kemmisse? Wowwww! And worst yet, they are almost taking it back with the help of Meshrefet, who is hypnotizing Ejolies into believing he is a "good Naftania".
And why do you jump far north, into Raya, which is 100% Tigrean land, your historical allies' homeland, in which Oromo and Tigray blend amicably for centuries, both of them knowing the land was always part of Tigray for thousands of years. Trust me, Raya is 100% Tigray, the people are extremely proud Tigreans and also highly respect Oromos and other good peoples in the whole region. Raya was always the nearest southern Tigrean Awraja bordering Oromia at the River Alawaha. Thus Qobo town (started by Enderta's Ras weldeselasse of Tigray-Tigrigni) belongs to Tigray, and Woldia, another Oromifa named city, belongs to you.
Lets be smart and make Alewaha the border of Tigray and Oromia again.

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Post by Abdelaziz » 14 Nov 2019, 04:00

Amhara history writers and their Ferenji allies always tried to fool Tigreans, Oromos and other Ethiopians. Due to that they brainwashed innocent Amaras, Oromos and Tigreans into believing places like Wello are not Oromo, but Raya, which is far north in Tigray and has no other land connection to the rest of the country than through Wello itself is intentionally cited in some of their so-called history books as "lawless land and home" of what they derisively call "gallas". Some OLFites who used to claim Raya are simply brainwashed by Naftania propaganda like this and some covert Naftanias like Meshrefet acting as Ejolies might simply use Raya as anti-Tigray tool to put wedge between Oromos and Tigreans. But, In reality, even geographically, Oromos can't have Raya, even if we want to give them back, unless they first retake the entire Wello, up to Yeju's border, Alewaha.

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Re: Raya is not Tigray Raya is a Clan Raya is Wolloyie not Tegaru

Post by Abdelaziz » 14 Nov 2019, 04:33

BTW: Even terms like Delanta, Meqdela, Dawnt, etc, which sound gonderam terms, are actually also Oromifa terms. There are very few Amharic names, such as names of recent markets( Maksegno Gebeya, Addis Ketema, etc), in wello.Agew names like SeqoTa, Lasta,lalibela, etc, are the exceptions, the rest of the names in the entire Wello province are in Oromifa. That is problematic for Oromos to ignore :shock: :shock: :shock: But majority of the l places in Raya have Tigrigna names ( only few Oromifa, Afar and Agew names).

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