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[Ethoash]

Zeman,

i am done with u i cant talk in circle... here is my answer ሌባን ሌባ ቢስርቀው ምንኛ ይገርመው or clean hands doctrine ... to seek justice ur hand must be clean from crime... the Amhara fano hand was በወንጀል ተጨማልቆዋል ። ትግሬዎችን እኮ እንገድላለን ብለው ነው እኮ መንገድ የዘጉት ምን ትላለህ ትግሬዎችን እንዳለ ሊጨርሷቸው እኮ ነው መንገድ ዘግተው ምግብ እንዳያልፍላቸው ያደረጉት ።።። ይህ በምንም አይነት መንገድ ከመግደል አይተናነስም ።።። መንግስት የለም ብለው አነበረም ይህንን ወንጀል ሲስሩ የከረሙት አሁን ለምንድነው መንግስትን ጣልቃ እንዲገባ የሚፈልጉት ። እነሱን መንገድ ሊያስከፍት መንግስት ቢመጣ ኖሮ ጦርነት ይጀምሩ አነበረም ውይ።

ምነው ተረቱን አልስማህም ወይ ምነው በእንቁላሉ ግዜ አልቀጣሽኝም አሁን ምን ያረጋል በሬ ሰስርቅ ስያዝ ማልቀስ። ብሎ ሌባ ልጅ እናቱን ገፀፃት ።። ፋኖዎቹ መንገዱን ቢዘጉ ለምን የክልሉ መንግስት ዝም አላቸው። ለምን እሳት ዝም አለ ። ለምን አሁን የሚያለቅስት ሁሉ ዝም አሉ።

አዋ ሁለቱ ወንጀሎች በፍፁም አንድ አይደሉም ግን አማሮች ሕግ ከፈለጉ መጀመሪያ እጃቸውን ከወንጀል ማፅዳት አለባቸው የዘጉትን መንገድ መጀመሪያ ከፍተው ከዚያ ፍት ህ መጠየቅ ይችላሉ

እንግዲህ የሞቱትን ማስመለስ አንችልም።
ጥፋተኞቹን አሳደን ይዘን ለፍርድ ማቅረብ ነው።
ከዚህ በኋላ ግን ማንም ልብ ያበጠበት አማራ ኦሮሞን እንዲህ እናረገዋለን እንዲያ እናረገዋልን ካለ ። ለሚደርስው ጥፋት ተጣያቂ ነው።

ለምሳሌ አንተ ቄሮዎች ቦኮ ሐራም ናቸው ብለህኛል። ሌሎቹ ደግሞ አልሽባብ ናቸው ብለዋል ታድያ ይህ ማለት እኮ ለእርድ አዘጋጀሐቸው ማለት ነው ። የአሜሪካንን እርዳት መጠየቅ ማለት ነው ። ታድያ ቄሮቹ ዝም ብለው የሚጠብቁህ ይመስልሀል።።

እኔ የምልህ በጣም ቀላል ነገር ነው ። በአንተ እንዲደርግ የማትፈልገውን በሌላው አታርግ ። ሌላውን ለማስደስት አስር እጥፍ ሂድ። ምን ይጎድሀል ኦሮሞዎች ትንሽ እላፊ መብት በገዛ አገራቸው ቢያገኙ ። አንድ ስንዝረ እንዳያገኙ መከራከር ምን ይሉታል በቀደም በኦሮምኛ እንቀድስ አሉ መርቃቹህ ብትልኮቸው ምን ነበር ግን አምሳንቲም እላፊ እንዲያገኝ አትፈልጉም ለምን ክንድ ይጠይቃሉ ብላቹሁ። የስድብ መሀት ታወርድባቸዋላቹሁ እነሱ ምላቹህን ሲስጡ ታለቃቅሳላቹሁ። አረ የት ሄድንን እንፈንዳ።

አዋ በመጀመሪያ ኦሮሞዎቹ የደሀውን ቤት ማፈረሳቸው ትክክል አነበረም ። ግን ሆነ ነገር ከማባባስ ። ነገርን አቀዝቅዞ መጎዝ እያለ ለምን እልህ እን ያያዛለህ።።።።

እኔ በዚህ ከቀጠል ማለቅያ የለውም ለፋኖ ሐጥያት ሚሊዬን ምክንያት እየደረደርክ ማንም የሚስማህ የለም በ፬፰ ስዓት ወስጥ ቄሮዎች ኬላቸውን ማንሳት አለባቸው ማንም ሳይጠቃቸው።

አረ ምን ትላለህ ሁለቱ ኦሮሞዎች በወልዲያ የተገደሉት ምን ትላለህ። አይ ምንም አይደለም በእግር ኳስ ጥለው ትላለህ ወይስ ገዳዬዎች ይያዙ ትላለህ። ሌላስ በኦሮሞ ክፍለ ሐገር የሚደርስው የብቀላ ግድያስ ምን ትላለህ። እነሱ ይያዙ ግን ለአማሮች ምክን ያት አይጠፋህም ምንክያቱም ትግሬዎች ናቸው ያስገደሏቸው።።።

አረ እዚህ ላይ ላቁም ።።። አንዳንዱ አክሰስ አለኝ ብሎ ቀኑን ሙሉ እሮሞን ይሳደባል ። ማቀዛቀዝ አይፈልግም አንተም ተው እንተም ተው እይለም በልው ጠራርገው ይላል ከደሙ ኑፁ ነኝ

[Sadacha Macca]

The arraogance and cowardice emanating from this post is very sad and hilarious at the same time.
WHO are YOU to tell abiy to take ''out'' his own oromo kin? a man who will no doubt have thousands upon thousands, if not millions ready to seek revenge on his behalf, whether u like it or not?
Secondly, why don't you do it then, instead of being an internet jegna/warrior?
You claim to know what the majority of ethiopians want, yet you will be in your warm safe home in the west, as they die and fight each other; so put some skin the game as professor ethoash says.

[ZEMEN]

"WHO are YOU to tell abiy to take ''out'' his own oromo kin?"
it is me advising your oromo leader and if Abiy doesn't take out the denqoro Ja-war; the Denqoro Ja-War will eat abiy. They are both Oromo i could careless who eats who but if Abiy solidifies his power, at least people won't be slaughtered like a goat on their home in front of their kids. Besides sun shine; do you know your Ja-war is an American citizen he has no right what so ever in Ethiopian internal affairs? But Gala is always Gala, no one understood that. He has no right!!!!!

[ZEMEN]

Zeman,

i am done with u i cant talk in circle... here is my answer ሌባን ሌባ ቢስርቀው ምንኛ ይገርመው or clean hands doctrine ... to seek justice ur hand must be clean from crime... the Amhara fano hand was በወንጀል ተጨማልቆዋል ። ትግሬዎችን እኮ እንገድላለን ብለው ነው እኮ መንገድ የዘጉት ምን ትላለህ ትግሬዎችን እንዳለ ሊጨርሷቸው እኮ ነው መንገድ ዘግተው ምግብ እንዳያልፍላቸው ያደረጉት ።።። ይህ በምንም አይነት መንገድ ከመግደል አይተናነስም ።።። መንግስት የለም ብለው አነበረም ይህንን ወንጀል ሲስሩ የከረሙት አሁን ለምንድነው መንግስትን ጣልቃ እንዲገባ የሚፈልጉት ። እነሱን መንገድ ሊያስከፍት መንግስት ቢመጣ ኖሮ ጦርነት ይጀምሩ አነበረም ውይ።

ምነው ተረቱን አልስማህም ወይ ምነው በእንቁላሉ ግዜ አልቀጣሽኝም አሁን ምን ያረጋል በሬ ሰስርቅ ስያዝ ማልቀስ። ብሎ ሌባ ልጅ እናቱን ገፀፃት ።። ፋኖዎቹ መንገዱን ቢዘጉ ለምን የክልሉ መንግስት ዝም አላቸው። ለምን እሳት ዝም አለ ። ለምን አሁን የሚያለቅስት ሁሉ ዝም አሉ።

አዋ ሁለቱ ወንጀሎች በፍፁም አንድ አይደሉም ግን አማሮች ሕግ ከፈለጉ መጀመሪያ እጃቸውን ከወንጀል ማፅዳት አለባቸው የዘጉትን መንገድ መጀመሪያ ከፍተው ከዚያ ፍት ህ መጠየቅ ይችላሉ

እንግዲህ የሞቱትን ማስመለስ አንችልም።
ጥፋተኞቹን አሳደን ይዘን ለፍርድ ማቅረብ ነው።
ከዚህ በኋላ ግን ማንም ልብ ያበጠበት አማራ ኦሮሞን እንዲህ እናረገዋለን እንዲያ እናረገዋልን ካለ ። ለሚደርስው ጥፋት ተጣያቂ ነው።

ለምሳሌ አንተ ቄሮዎች ቦኮ ሐራም ናቸው ብለህኛል። ሌሎቹ ደግሞ አልሽባብ ናቸው ብለዋል ታድያ ይህ ማለት እኮ ለእርድ አዘጋጀሐቸው ማለት ነው ። የአሜሪካንን እርዳት መጠየቅ ማለት ነው ። ታድያ ቄሮቹ ዝም ብለው የሚጠብቁህ ይመስልሀል።።

እኔ የምልህ በጣም ቀላል ነገር ነው ። በአንተ እንዲደርግ የማትፈልገውን በሌላው አታርግ ። ሌላውን ለማስደስት አስር እጥፍ ሂድ። ምን ይጎድሀል ኦሮሞዎች ትንሽ እላፊ መብት በገዛ አገራቸው ቢያገኙ ። አንድ ስንዝረ እንዳያገኙ መከራከር ምን ይሉታል በቀደም በኦሮምኛ እንቀድስ አሉ መርቃቹህ ብትልኮቸው ምን ነበር ግን አምሳንቲም እላፊ እንዲያገኝ አትፈልጉም ለምን ክንድ ይጠይቃሉ ብላቹሁ። የስድብ መሀት ታወርድባቸዋላቹሁ እነሱ ምላቹህን ሲስጡ ታለቃቅሳላቹሁ። አረ የት ሄድንን እንፈንዳ።

አዋ በመጀመሪያ ኦሮሞዎቹ የደሀውን ቤት ማፈረሳቸው ትክክል አነበረም ። ግን ሆነ ነገር ከማባባስ ። ነገርን አቀዝቅዞ መጎዝ እያለ ለምን እልህ እን ያያዛለህ።።።።

እኔ በዚህ ከቀጠል ማለቅያ የለውም ለፋኖ ሐጥያት ሚሊዬን ምክንያት እየደረደርክ ማንም የሚስማህ የለም በ፬፰ ስዓት ወስጥ ቄሮዎች ኬላቸውን ማንሳት አለባቸው ማንም ሳይጠቃቸው።

አረ ምን ትላለህ ሁለቱ ኦሮሞዎች በወልዲያ የተገደሉት ምን ትላለህ። አይ ምንም አይደለም በእግር ኳስ ጥለው ትላለህ ወይስ ገዳዬዎች ይያዙ ትላለህ። ሌላስ በኦሮሞ ክፍለ ሐገር የሚደርስው የብቀላ ግድያስ ምን ትላለህ። እነሱ ይያዙ ግን ለአማሮች ምክን ያት አይጠፋህም ምንክያቱም ትግሬዎች ናቸው ያስገደሏቸው።።።

አረ እዚህ ላይ ላቁም ።።። አንዳንዱ አክሰስ አለኝ ብሎ ቀኑን ሙሉ እሮሞን ይሳደባል ። ማቀዛቀዝ አይፈልግም አንተም ተው እንተም ተው እይለም በልው ጠራርገው ይላል ከደሙ ኑፁ ነኝ

Okay answer this; do you think Ja-War should face justice? should be held responsible? Now, sir, what ever your answer is, here where it reveals your character.

[Ethoash]

Okay answer this; do you think Ja-War should face justice? should be held responsible? Now, sir, what ever your answer is, here where it reveals your character.
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ZEMEN,

አማራ ሲተርት በሬ ሆይ ሳሩን አይተህ ገደሉን ሳታይ

u only look arresting Joywar, i am seeing 3 step a head of your action ...

let look the root cause of violence

1. Dr. Abiy declare JOYWAR enemy of the state
2. joywar call for backup
3. innocent died
now very important point
4. joywar call back his qerrro
5. peace restored

part II

6. JOYWAR IS not imminent and present danger

7. but if u arrested him he will be imminent and present danger...

8. if u think JOYWAR is not above the low he should be arrested then who am I to stop u...

9. when ur action cause more death and suffering then u cry u had it better just like IRAQ, LIBYA AND SYRIA FOR shure they think they had it better

10. now when i told u this i am not saying JOYWAR IS innocent .. he is not but he was not the cause of the problem .. but by arresting him u will make him the cause of 100,000 death.. so go head arrest or hand him like Qaddafi, Saddam and Assad ...even the Somali because fail state because the American take out their leader.. mind u dictator leader is much better then no government at all..

part III

WHEN to arrest Joywar..

you would be legally oaky to arrest Joywar even use deadly force to kill him .. if he refused to restore peace and told his qerro to cause mayhem.... then u would be justified to use force .... but not now JOYWAR Fleeing FROM us it is not present and imminent danger to us.. so why make more harm by became the cause of the problem


now if u want to continue this discussion u must answer one question

if arresting Joywar, for sure if u knew that 100,000 oromo youth will die vs 86 youth dead ... and you could not stop the killing once start would u still go and delver justice fr those poor or u say dont do more harm and try to prevent future crime...

[ZEMEN]

1. Dr. Abiy declare JOYWAR enemy of the state
2. joywar call for backup
3. innocent died
now very important point
4. joywar call back his qerrro
5. peace restored



So what happens to those innocent people who were burned, slaughtered like a goat? where is the justice for them? who is responsible for the massacre? Are you suggesting we just forget and move on? people are dead for a stupid gala'a games. Come on man! All I am saying is somebody must be hold responsible for the lose of lives and that is Ja-WAR. how hard is to understand this fact?

[Ethoash]

zemen

r u idiot i keep on telling u u can arrest joywar if u want too.. i dont care but what i am saying to u is it might trigger 100,000 death..

i give u many example USA 9!! TIME THY lost 3000 people mind only 3000 people now to revenge those 3000 blood they wage war and lost 50,000 american army 250,000 lost body part, 150,000 become sick and trillion dollar wasted and the war is not even finished

it is double jeopardy... if u have to daughter of yours and u try to escape from house fire and u only have to carry one of your daughter at one time which one r u taking would u leave them both , u stay with them and burn to hell or u choice one and live with the sin the rest of your life.. which choice u choice is not better but it would be better to choice one instead of all of dying

another case is gambling let say u lost 100 dollar now you dont want to lose your 100 dollar and spend another 1000 dollar to recover your lost money or cut your lose and run away from the gambling place and save your 1000 dollar in hand ..

everything u do is in your hand it is your choice u want to revenge 86 youth life i say go head but u might create another 100,000 life lost even lose the whole nation but if u think that is important go head.. the thing make me mad is you try to avoid the consequences what will come after when u arrest Joywar u dont want to face that reality u just guided by hate for joywar..

this is reality we cant live in crime zero society ... what we should do is learn from our mistake and move forward . this doesn't mean let the criminal go free if u find them arrest them .. the point is those hooligan need a joy they need their own life if u want to kill joywar give those hooligan job they will never burn and kill because now they have something to lose

joywar is your useful enemy... in death he will harm u more.. look tplf did not killed አንዳርጋቸውን ፅጌ ዛሬ ጥሩ አጋር አገኘን። ወያኔ ዶክተር ብርሀኑን አልገደልም ታድያ ዜሬ ጥሩ አጋራ ሆኖናል። የኦነግ አለቆችም ተመልስዋል ። እነሱን መግደል ምን ይጠቅመናል አዋ ለግዜው ግድያው የሚያቆም የመስለናል አለቆቹን ስንገድል። እንዴት አረገህ ነው መንጎቹን የምተቆጠጠረው እረኛቸውን ገደለህባቸው። የባላንጣህን አለቆች መግደል ብዙ ጣጣ አለው ። እስራሄሎች አረፋትን መግደል አቅቶቸው መስሎህ ነው። ብልጥ ስለሆኑ ነው ስላም ድርደር እስከሚፈርም በሕይወት ያቆዩት ። አሜሪካኖች ደግሞ ስለ ጦርነት ያልገባቸው እየሄዱ ቅንድ ቅንድ ያለውን ጠላታቸውን እየገደሉ ከማን ጋራ ይደራደሩ ። ሁሉም ለየራሱ የጎበዝ አለቃ ሆኖ እርፍ ይላል። ጁሀርን ብትገደለው ማን ነው ቄሮን የሚቆጣጠርልህ።

እንግሊዞች ጋንዲን አልገደሉም ። ሳውስ አፍሪካኖች መንደላን አልገደሉም አሜሪካኖች ግን የነፃነት መሪዎቹን ገደሉ። እና ተመልከት ስንት እዳ እንዳስገባቸው Martin Luther King, Jr በመገደላቸው ጥቁሮች በብዛት ሽክም ሆኑባቸው ። ግን ማርቲን ቢኖርና ቢመክራቸው ስርተው እንዲበሉና ለራሳቸው ክብር እንዲስጡ ቢመክራችው ኖሮ የት ና የት በደረሱ ነበር።

[ZEMEN]

zemen

r u idiot i keep on telling u u can arrest joywar if u want too.. i dont care but what i am saying to u is it might trigger 100,000 death..

i give u many example USA 9!! TIME THY lost 3000 people mind only 3000 people now to revenge those 3000 blood they wage war and lost 50,000 american army 250,000 lost body part, 150,000 become sick and trillion dollar wasted and the war is not even finished

it is double jeopardy... if u have to daughter of yours and u try to escape from house fire and u only have to carry one of your daughter at one time which one r u taking would u leave them both , u stay with them and burn to hell or u choice one and live with the sin the rest of your life.. which choice u choice is not better but it would be better to choice one instead of all of dying

another case is gambling let say u lost 100 dollar now you dont want to lose your 100 dollar and spend another 1000 dollar to recover your lost money or cut your lose and run away from the gambling place and save your 1000 dollar in hand ..

everything u do is in your hand it is your choice u want to revenge 86 youth life i say go head but u might create another 100,000 life lost even lose the whole nation but if u think that is important go head.. the thing make me mad is you try to avoid the consequences what will come after when u arrest Joywar u dont want to face that reality u just guided by hate for joywar..

this is reality we cant live in crime zero society ... what we should do is learn from our mistake and move forward . this doesn't mean let the criminal go free if u find them arrest them .. the point is those hooligan need a joy they need their own life if u want to kill joywar give those hooligan job they will never burn and kill because now they have something to lose

joywar is your useful enemy... in death he will harm u more.. look tplf did not killed አንዳርጋቸውን ፅጌ ዛሬ ጥሩ አጋር አገኘን። ወያኔ ዶክተር ብርሀኑን አልገደልም ታድያ ዜሬ ጥሩ አጋራ ሆኖናል። የኦነግ አለቆችም ተመልስዋል ። እነሱን መግደል ምን ይጠቅመናል አዋ ለግዜው ግድያው የሚያቆም የመስለናል አለቆቹን ስንገድል። እንዴት አረገህ ነው መንጎቹን የምተቆጠጠረው እረኛቸውን ገደለህባቸው። የባላንጣህን አለቆች መግደል ብዙ ጣጣ አለው ። እስራሄሎች አረፋትን መግደል አቅቶቸው መስሎህ ነው። ብልጥ ስለሆኑ ነው ስላም ድርደር እስከሚፈርም በሕይወት ያቆዩት ። አሜሪካኖች ደግሞ ስለ ጦርነት ያልገባቸው እየሄዱ ቅንድ ቅንድ ያለውን ጠላታቸውን እየገደሉ ከማን ጋራ ይደራደሩ ። ሁሉም ለየራሱ የጎበዝ አለቃ ሆኖ እርፍ ይላል። ጁሀርን ብትገደለው ማን ነው ቄሮን የሚቆጣጠርልህ።

እንግሊዞች ጋንዲን አልገደሉም ። ሳውስ አፍሪካኖች መንደላን አልገደሉም አሜሪካኖች ግን የነፃነት መሪዎቹን ገደሉ። እና ተመልከት ስንት እዳ እንዳስገባቸው Martin Luther King, Jr በመገደላቸው ጥቁሮች በብዛት ሽክም ሆኑባቸው ። ግን ማርቲን ቢኖርና ቢመክራቸው ስርተው እንዲበሉና ለራሳቸው ክብር እንዲስጡ ቢመክራችው ኖሮ የት ና የት በደረሱ ነበር።

You are thinking as merchant not as a leader whose principal is to lead the country under the rule of and everyone a citizen of the nation is indeed no one above the law. It is mind bugling your reasoning; if we hold Ja_WAR responsible because of 80 people then 10 k will die. My friend, you can lead a country and maintain order and a rule of law at any cost. This kinds of problems, you have to solve the problem from its root-cause. Even if it means more people will die and more chaos to ensue. All I am saying is that I get it what you are saying but what I am telling you is appeasing racists, bigots, extremists, dogmatist, the problem not only never stops it gets more worst and in the long run more people will die and the country might not even survive. I got it what you are saying but what I am saying your way of handling this problem wrong. You can’t embolden criminals. If I was Abiy, I will take out JAWAR and I will deal with whatever to follow. Appeasing extremists never work. Besides you can’t say let’s cut our loses short; it is human blood that was shade. Justice must be dispensed at any cost. I can assure you if Abiy to grow a couple of balls between his legs and has shoot few Menga, the country will be in peace within days. Now, how hard is for you to understand this fact?

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ZEMEN

what I am telling you is appeasing racists, bigots, extremists, dogmatist, the problem not only never stops it gets more worst and in the long run more people will die and the country might not even survive. I got it what you are saying but what I am saying your way of handling this problem wrong. You can’t embolden criminals. If I was Abiy, I will take out JAWAR and I will deal with whatever to follow. Appeasing extremists never work. Besides you can’t say let’s cut our loses short; it is human blood that was shade. Justice must be dispensed at any cost. I can assure you if Abiy to grow a couple of balls between his legs and has shoot few Menga, the country will be in peace within days. Now, how hard is for you to understand this fact?

my answer is put skin in the game just watch this video it is only 2.38 minute

i read your reply twice and it amazing me u r so mad as hell that 86 youth died and u r willing to sacrificed new 10k youth to revenge... u dont even care if the cost is 100,000 life.. or u dont even care if the civil war become out of control and we lose the whole nation all you care is revenge 86 youth blood

you must be Eritrean otherwise u remind me of የኮለኔል ደመቀ ዘወዱ who killed 9 fed. police and freed u did not say anything why not say about him.. for sure u have excuse why he should be free.

The Judgment of Solomon is a story from the Hebrew Bible in which King Solomon of Israel ruled between two women both claiming to be the mother of a child. Solomon revealed their true feelings and relationship to the child by suggesting to cut the baby in two, with each woman to receive half. With this strategy, he was able to discern the non-mother as the woman who entirely approved of this proposal, while the actual mother begged that the sword might be sheathed and the child committed to the care of her rival. Some consider this approach to justice an archetypal example of an impartial judge displaying wisdom in making a ruling.

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook even so i think Joywar is criminal and he should be jailed even killed for the cirme he commited but i am willing to let him go because i want to save 10k youth alive that our beloved predicted would die if we killed Joywar...


how in hell you revenge the death of 86 by killing 10k more..it is not how u revenge the death of 86 by preventing the death of 10k even one person


sometime i call people like u mr. Zemen revolution virgin u think in revolution no body die.. when u conduct revolution people die ... what happened was mini revolution that is what happened ... this is only trailer when we have the big revolution when we killed Jowar then we going to see blood flow like river .. so dont be surprised when blood flow like river dont see no body told me....

i really love this discussion it is higher level discussion but i have a feeling Dr. Abiy might take your advice and create more mayhem.... what ever advice he take i wish my hand from this sin.....

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[Sadacha Macca]

Buda gudela zemen

Kkkkkk u are advising pm abiy because jawar will allegedly harm him but since they're all gallas according to you; you don't care anyway.
You're a walking contradiction literally. And a coward. Come test Qeerroo if you want then so you can see the results of that. But i know you won't cause you're a coward and only tough online.

[sun]

The solo and sure exit for Ethiopia and Abiy and stabilize, the country, earn confidence among the general people is TAKE care JAWAR. when i say take care Jawar is, What i mean is take jawar out, take him out for good, if not, he will take you out. True, it will be some disturbance and unrest but it won't last. Majority the people of Ethiopia are with you. The best way out is to clean your house. It is better to have unrest for a couple of days than dealing with this Animal.

Hmm...

I am NOT a politician but yet I know from history the fact that the traditional treacherous back stabbing NifxYegna divisive gangs (does not include reformist and democratic segment) succeeded to dominate the democratic egalitarian Oromo people in times past only through dividing Oromos and agitating them to fight and weaken each other after which time money loving hedonist NifxYegnas over run Oromiyya the beautiful and misappropriated its human and material resources beyond imagination.

During the reign of the 17 years Mengistu's regime NifxYegnas manipulated Colonel Mengistu Hailemariam and made themselves important part of his advisors while at the same time busy working against the Oromo people and their interests. It is during this time that these same insane NifxYegnas started spreading non stop earth shaking fake stories and hate propaganda against a single significant Oromo leader, Dr. Haile Fida who was by then working closely with Colonel Mengistu.

The enitire NifxYegna media of the that time were spreading self made and self serving lies and fake news claiming that Oromos and their friends are/were working to crown a "Galla man", that is to say, Haile Fida, to rule over Ethiopia as King of Kings.

NifxYegnas of those days just like the NixYegnas of today were saying that the sole and sure exit for Ethiopia and President Mengistu to stabilize the country and earn confidence and support among the general people is to take care of Haile Fida by taking him out (kill) for good.

True to his insecure and low self confidence Mengistu followed NifxYegna fake and cheap propaganda criminal agitation and eliminated one of the best and brightest Oromo Ethiopian leader, Haile Fida, a human being who has done nothing wrong to any one.

Did we the democratic and egalitarian Oromos learn anything from history when we know the fact that NifxYegnas never learn anything from history since they keep repeating themselves decades after decades in wanting and trying to control other peoples destinies and resources using malicious and criminal methods?


“No matter what your history has been, your destiny is what you create today. What are you going to create?” ~Steve M., Life, the Truth, and Being Free.

[ZEMEN]

Buda gudela zemen

Kkkkkk u are advising pm abiy because jawar will allegedly harm him but since they're all gallas according to you; you don't care anyway.
You're a walking contradiction literally. And a coward. Come test Qeerroo if you want then so you can see the results of that. But i know you won't cause you're a coward and only tough online.

Well, if you can't read, i can't help you but in case you read, here is what i have said. I have no confidence between the two Galas; but i prefer Abiy because there less chance people getting burned, stoned and slaughtered like cow. Your JA-WAR is a coward and a killer. That is what i am saying. Gala is always going to be gala. get that truth to your thick head.

[ZEMEN]

ZEMEN

what I am telling you is appeasing racists, bigots, extremists, dogmatist, the problem not only never stops it gets more worst and in the long run more people will die and the country might not even survive. I got it what you are saying but what I am saying your way of handling this problem wrong. You can’t embolden criminals. If I was Abiy, I will take out JAWAR and I will deal with whatever to follow. Appeasing extremists never work. Besides you can’t say let’s cut our loses short; it is human blood that was shade. Justice must be dispensed at any cost. I can assure you if Abiy to grow a couple of balls between his legs and has shoot few Menga, the country will be in peace within days. Now, how hard is for you to understand this fact?

my answer is put skin in the game just watch this video it is only 2.38 minute

i read your reply twice and it amazing me u r so mad as hell that 86 youth died and u r willing to sacrificed new 10k youth to revenge... u dont even care if the cost is 100,000 life.. or u dont even care if the civil war become out of control and we lose the whole nation all you care is revenge 86 youth blood

you must be Eritrean otherwise u remind me of የኮለኔል ደመቀ ዘወዱ who killed 9 fed. police and freed u did not say anything why not say about him.. for sure u have excuse why he should be free.

The Judgment of Solomon is a story from the Hebrew Bible in which King Solomon of Israel ruled between two women both claiming to be the mother of a child. Solomon revealed their true feelings and relationship to the child by suggesting to cut the baby in two, with each woman to receive half. With this strategy, he was able to discern the non-mother as the woman who entirely approved of this proposal, while the actual mother begged that the sword might be sheathed and the child committed to the care of her rival. Some consider this approach to justice an archetypal example of an impartial judge displaying wisdom in making a ruling.

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook even so i think Joywar is criminal and he should be jailed even killed for the cirme he commited but i am willing to let him go because i want to save 10k youth alive that our beloved predicted would die if we killed Joywar...


how in hell you revenge the death of 86 by killing 10k more..it is not how u revenge the death of 86 by preventing the death of 10k even one person


sometime i call people like u mr. Zemen revolution virgin u think in revolution no body die.. when u conduct revolution people die ... what happened was mini revolution that is what happened ... this is only trailer when we have the big revolution when we killed Jowar then we going to see blood flow like river .. so dont be surprised when blood flow like river dont see no body told me....

i really love this discussion it is higher level discussion but i have a feeling Dr. Abiy might take your advice and create more mayhem.... what ever advice he take i wish my hand from this sin.....

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Listen; a leader must established national principal that people must follow fear and respect. Even if i am welling to go your way; appease the extremists and the criminals like JA-WAR and cut short our losses; what guarantee do you have this won't happen again? That is exactly my point. Again let me go with your solution and agree with idea; how do you know this thing doesn't happen again and again? You see my solution drastic and there is no chance to happen again. i am suggesting once for all solution.

[Sadacha Macca]

Buda gudela zemen

Kkkkkk u are advising pm abiy because jawar will allegedly harm him but since they're all gallas according to you; you don't care anyway.
You're a walking contradiction literally. And a coward. Come test Qeerroo if you want then so you can see the results of that. But i know you won't cause you're a coward and only tough online.

Well, if you can't read, i can't help you but in case you read, here is what i have said. I have no confidence between the two Galas; but i prefer Abiy because there less chance people getting burned, stoned and slaughtered like cow. Your JA-WAR is a coward and a killer. That is what i am saying. Gala is always going to be gala. get that truth to your thick head.

If all Oromo are your enemies, then who gives a F what you think about us then?
We know you are an internet jegna. Keyboard warrior. Not a real life one.

Otherwise you would not ask anyone to do something to jawar. Try it yourself then, if you're brave. Otherwise, expect to type and type, while accomplishing nothing on the ground.

[ZEMEN]

Buda gudela zemen

Kkkkkk u are advising pm abiy because jawar will allegedly harm him but since they're all gallas according to you; you don't care anyway.
You're a walking contradiction literally. And a coward. Come test Qeerroo if you want then so you can see the results of that. But i know you won't cause you're a coward and only tough online.

Well, if you can't read, i can't help you but in case you read, here is what i have said. I have no confidence between the two Galas; but i prefer Abiy because there less chance people getting burned, stoned and slaughtered like cow. Your JA-WAR is a coward and a killer. That is what i am saying. Gala is always going to be gala. get that truth to your thick head.

If all Oromo are your enemies, then who gives a F what you think about us then?
We know you are an internet jegna. Keyboard warrior. Not a real life one.

Otherwise you would not ask anyone to do something to jawar. Try it yourself then, if you're brave. Otherwise, expect to type and type, while accomplishing nothing on the ground.

Noooo, I don't worry about it. Gala can not and would not hold power. You fought 40 years and you never liberated even a village; how on earth any Gala can lead a country? impossible! you will kill each other very shortly, take that to the bank.

[Ethoash]

Listen; a leader must established national principal that people must follow fear and respect. Even if i am welling to go your way; appease the extremists and the criminals like JA-WAR and cut short our losses; what guarantee do you have this won't happen again? That is exactly my point. Again let me go with your solution and agree with idea; how do you know this thing doesn't happen again and again? You see my solution drastic and there is no chance to happen again. i am suggesting once for all solution.

ZEMEN

1. if u want to prevent frost fire u ban playing with matchstick or camp fire ...
2. if u want to prevent house fire u get fire alarm
etc

the same way if u want to prevent civil unrest.. u implement preventative measure ... the simplest thing u can do is ban name calling .. look at you even u use Galla and u want the oromo not to start fire

all hostility must be stopped, all hate speech must be stopped ... u have to be extra careful to avoid hate speech but if it happened u must take fast measure or respond this way the victim knows his concerned will be answered and he will not take justice in his hand...

sometime u might even think TPLF got it right arresting so called journalist if instigating violence ..... once u did everything in your power to prevent violence but if Joywar start violence without provoked then you can us the army .. the fed. army is the last resort .. it is not the first respond ... u try everything in your power not to use force then if everything fail they u use force...

once we understand this logic u call Joywar make a deal and make him partner creating job for the hooligan ... once the qerro got the job and making money half our problem is done ...

there are Amhara who hate Joywar .. so they want to use the fed. government to wage war on joywar... dr. Abiy should be smart to avoid to be used by this or that groups .. Dr.Abiy should serve both groups equal so this time make sure to investigate the root cause of the violence and fix the problem ... this is what i can say..

this way we can avoid risking 10k youth live ... to grantee this Bs doesnt happened u make deal with Joywar and the opp. not to spared hate speech... and find a job .. and less see if this work... then if doesnt work then make sure u respond quickly to fix the problem when they arise....

if some one kill oromo students .. u must make move the who force to investigate and find those criminals who killed the oromo students. if Amhara students killed in oromia region u do the same so u will stop revenge killing .. by making fast justice.. in many case Dr. Abiy fail to give justice when there is a video proof even ... the burning of church .. u can declare we going to build brand new church and the region who burn it will pay for it from their own budget... not only that u put security camera in every Church and see who did the burning and hunt them down once everyone knows this security measure and you mean business no body will fk with u.. now u might think the hooligan might cover their face no problem .. the alarm call for police .. if the police fail to respond you fire them all ....

the police force also must be reorganized for example in oromia region must reflect the region ethnic make up...
if we want peace we must spend money and work at it hard .. there is no free peace .. have a nice life...

by the way ur respond to Sadacha Macca using the word G word will be banned .. this kind of writing are the one who create us problem ... why do u care if the oromo is not good in ruling all u should ask is you govern your own region and Amhara govern their own region so why do u care if the oromo run the fed. government the fed. government doesnt have that much power in day to day ruling of state of Amhara ...... in fact it is good that the oromo are not good ruler what the Amhara should do is just build your region economically politically and show the oromo people if u would be elected for fed. government u will do the same for the whole Ethiopia so why would u help your opponent insisting they should improve ..

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
Napoleon

[sun]

ZEMEN

put skin in the game is very simple logic .. ፈረስኛው ከፈረሱ ለመወረድ ጨንቆት ፈረሱ ሲያንገላታው መሬት ላይ ያለ ሰው ብዙ አይነት ምክር መከረው ።።።እንዲ አርግ እንዲ አርግ እያሉ

So what you are saying is that unless one participates in the predicament of the country no one should voice their opinion. That all it was, i just voiced my opinion and suggested the solution. Anyway; what is your solution? don't worry i won't tell you to put some skin in to the game I am just interested to hear your solution.

no i will put skin in the game .. if i did do that i will not suggest ... what my suggestion is war is not a short cut it seem that way but it is not so if war is out what is left is discussion .. as u can see i am safe to put skin in the game ... no body should die .. we have Constitution if the oromo want to break away they can use article 39 peacefully..

just like u and your wife . u have divorce right .. if u love your wife u respect her right and u live toghter but if she feel u dont lover any more or for another reason if she want to divorce u why put each other to hell why not break away peacefully...

joywar seems liability but he have power to stop the hooligan that is his greater power we should use it for peace. to stop the hooligan we must create job as long as we fail in this department no power on earth give us peace.. once hooligan burning tire in Addis Ababa u know how Meles solved this problem of አደገኛ ዱርዬ by giving them cobblestone project once the አደገኛ ዱርዬ got that job and making big money they never burn tire in the middle of addis ababa street ... that is how u fight back.. Joywar what he is asking is very simple if you listen to him let him rule his oromia as he see it fit .. why not the amhara run their region as they see it fit and see which one have good governing skill once we see which one did a good job then we will elect them for fed. power ..

let me repeat if u killed joywar u will not know how many people died so why take risk
last time 86 people died now if u want to revenge this u dont know how many people will die
the solution is to cut your lose and run way .. dont touch joywar .. let sleeping dogs lay
those 86 youth died because u threatened the life of joywar why would u do that if . u dont like what Joywar do why not call him and talk to him instead of sale him in public .... i am sorry i can go and go on but let me stop here...

read how peaceful struggle is more powerful then armed struggle using armed struggle no body win .. Eritrea used armed struggle and look another king come and slaving them .. look Cuba and all other country who got their government using armed struggle end up slaved by winning party..

in our short memory kero win using peaceful struggle kero doesnt have gun they never wage war but peacefully by protesting they win.. more the OLF OR AG7 can claim .. so i will tell u million time peaceful struggle is more powerful . yes some idiot might tell u peaceful struggle might take longer but look OLF , EPFLF THEY DIDNOT win in short time it look that way but armed struggle might take 50 years or ever longer ... ERitrea are not even free that means their struggle is 70 years old and counting

Ethoash; I think we are looking at the same problem with different prism. I could have agreed with you if you had understood that Qerro is the new Bokoharam of Ethiopia. You can't reason with those animals. the only reason they understand is force, sorry.

Really?

The exact opposite of your claim is the truth nothing but the absolute truth. Mass murders of top government officials for the purpose of toppling the reformist democratic government both in Bahir dar city and its environments in the amhara region and in Addis Ababa city have been planned and implemented by the extremist amhara death squad networks who have also massacred in cold blood lots of Anuak old men, women, children and others.

On the contrary, the democratic and egalitarian Oromo youth (Qerros) have been struggling absolutely peacefully and sustainably, giving their limbs and lives, finally bringing about governmental change and the democratic transitional government who freed all Ethiopian prisoners from jails and concentration camps together with the liberation of all political parties from terror lists, death rows, miserable refugee lives and livings so as to come home and peacefully participate freely in any political activities of the country. AMEEN!

Against this fresh, clear and clean background, I can say with 101% certainty that the murderous NifxYegna amara extremists are the ones who are/were double Bokoharms of Ethiopia with whom it is absolutely impossible to talk and reason about anything simply because these wild animals understand only force but not reason. So please eat your own bitter pills and see how it really feels!

“You may fool some of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” ~Abraham Lincoln

[ZEMEN]

ZEMEN

put skin in the game is very simple logic .. ፈረስኛው ከፈረሱ ለመወረድ ጨንቆት ፈረሱ ሲያንገላታው መሬት ላይ ያለ ሰው ብዙ አይነት ምክር መከረው ።።።እንዲ አርግ እንዲ አርግ እያሉ

So what you are saying is that unless one participates in the predicament of the country no one should voice their opinion. That all it was, i just voiced my opinion and suggested the solution. Anyway; what is your solution? don't worry i won't tell you to put some skin in to the game I am just interested to hear your solution.

no i will put skin in the game .. if i did do that i will not suggest ... what my suggestion is war is not a short cut it seem that way but it is not so if war is out what is left is discussion .. as u can see i am safe to put skin in the game ... no body should die .. we have Constitution if the oromo want to break away they can use article 39 peacefully..

just like u and your wife . u have divorce right .. if u love your wife u respect her right and u live toghter but if she feel u dont lover any more or for another reason if she want to divorce u why put each other to hell why not break away peacefully...

joywar seems liability but he have power to stop the hooligan that is his greater power we should use it for peace. to stop the hooligan we must create job as long as we fail in this department no power on earth give us peace.. once hooligan burning tire in Addis Ababa u know how Meles solved this problem of አደገኛ ዱርዬ by giving them cobblestone project once the አደገኛ ዱርዬ got that job and making big money they never burn tire in the middle of addis ababa street ... that is how u fight back.. Joywar what he is asking is very simple if you listen to him let him rule his oromia as he see it fit .. why not the amhara run their region as they see it fit and see which one have good governing skill once we see which one did a good job then we will elect them for fed. power ..

let me repeat if u killed joywar u will not know how many people died so why take risk
last time 86 people died now if u want to revenge this u dont know how many people will die
the solution is to cut your lose and run way .. dont touch joywar .. let sleeping dogs lay
those 86 youth died because u threatened the life of joywar why would u do that if . u dont like what Joywar do why not call him and talk to him instead of sale him in public .... i am sorry i can go and go on but let me stop here...

read how peaceful struggle is more powerful then armed struggle using armed struggle no body win .. Eritrea used armed struggle and look another king come and slaving them .. look Cuba and all other country who got their government using armed struggle end up slaved by winning party..

in our short memory kero win using peaceful struggle kero doesnt have gun they never wage war but peacefully by protesting they win.. more the OLF OR AG7 can claim .. so i will tell u million time peaceful struggle is more powerful . yes some idiot might tell u peaceful struggle might take longer but look OLF , EPFLF THEY DIDNOT win in short time it look that way but armed struggle might take 50 years or ever longer ... ERitrea are not even free that means their struggle is 70 years old and counting

Ethoash; I think we are looking at the same problem with different prism. I could have agreed with you if you had understood that Qerro is the new Bokoharam of Ethiopia. You can't reason with those animals. the only reason they understand is force, sorry.

Really?

The exact opposite of your claim is the truth nothing but the absolute truth. Mass murders of top government officials for the purpose of toppling the reformist democratic government both in Bahir dar city and its environments in the amhara region and in Addis Ababa city have been planned and implemented by the extremist amhara death squad networks who have also massacred in cold blood lots of Anuak old men, women, children and others.

On the contrary, the democratic and egalitarian Oromo youth (Qerros) have been struggling absolutely peacefully and sustainably, giving their limbs and lives, finally bringing about governmental change and the democratic transitional government who freed all Ethiopian prisoners from jails and concentration camps together with the liberation of all political parties from terror lists, death rows, miserable refugee lives and livings so as to come home and peacefully participate freely in any political activities of the country. AMEEN!

Against this fresh, clear and clean background, I can say with 101% certainty that the murderous NifxYegna amara extremists are the ones who are/were double Bokoharms of Ethiopia with whom it is absolutely impossible to talk and reason about anything simply because these wild animals understand only force but not reason. So please eat your own bitter pills and see how it really feels!

“You may fool some of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” ~Abraham Lincoln

i have no idea what you are smoking but you are not making sense, If one of the innocent people who were slaughtered like a goat by your Qorqoro; was your father, sister, mother or brother would say the same thing? Have compassion, what happens to those people was absolute tragedy. Bering all the QOQOROWOCH and shoot them in head, strting with Ja-WAR then Ethiopians and Ethiopia will live in peace.

[ZEMEN]

Listen; a leader must established national principal that people must follow fear and respect. Even if i am welling to go your way; appease the extremists and the criminals like JA-WAR and cut short our losses; what guarantee do you have this won't happen again? That is exactly my point. Again let me go with your solution and agree with idea; how do you know this thing doesn't happen again and again? You see my solution drastic and there is no chance to happen again. i am suggesting once for all solution.

ZEMEN

1. if u want to prevent frost fire u ban playing with matchstick or camp fire ...
2. if u want to prevent house fire u get fire alarm
etc

the same way if u want to prevent civil unrest.. u implement preventative measure ... the simplest thing u can do is ban name calling .. look at you even u use Galla and u want the oromo not to start fire

all hostility must be stopped, all hate speech must be stopped ... u have to be extra careful to avoid hate speech but if it happened u must take fast measure or respond this way the victim knows his concerned will be answered and he will not take justice in his hand...

sometime u might even think TPLF got it right arresting so called journalist if instigating violence ..... once u did everything in your power to prevent violence but if Joywar start violence without provoked then you can us the army .. the fed. army is the last resort .. it is not the first respond ... u try everything in your power not to use force then if everything fail they u use force...

once we understand this logic u call Joywar make a deal and make him partner creating job for the hooligan ... once the qerro got the job and making money half our problem is done ...

there are Amhara who hate Joywar .. so they want to use the fed. government to wage war on joywar... dr. Abiy should be smart to avoid to be used by this or that groups .. Dr.Abiy should serve both groups equal so this time make sure to investigate the root cause of the violence and fix the problem ... this is what i can say..

this way we can avoid risking 10k youth live ... to grantee this Bs doesnt happened u make deal with Joywar and the opp. not to spared hate speech... and find a job .. and less see if this work... then if doesnt work then make sure u respond quickly to fix the problem when they arise....

if some one kill oromo students .. u must make move the who force to investigate and find those criminals who killed the oromo students. if Amhara students killed in oromia region u do the same so u will stop revenge killing .. by making fast justice.. in many case Dr. Abiy fail to give justice when there is a video proof even ... the burning of church .. u can declare we going to build brand new church and the region who burn it will pay for it from their own budget... not only that u put security camera in every Church and see who did the burning and hunt them down once everyone knows this security measure and you mean business no body will fk with u.. now u might think the hooligan might cover their face no problem .. the alarm call for police .. if the police fail to respond you fire them all ....

the police force also must be reorganized for example in oromia region must reflect the region ethnic make up...
if we want peace we must spend money and work at it hard .. there is no free peace .. have a nice life...

by the way ur respond to Sadacha Macca using the word G word will be banned .. this kind of writing are the one who create us problem ... why do u care if the oromo is not good in ruling all u should ask is you govern your own region and Amhara govern their own region so why do u care if the oromo run the fed. government the fed. government doesnt have that much power in day to day ruling of state of Amhara ...... in fact it is good that the oromo are not good ruler what the Amhara should do is just build your region economically politically and show the oromo people if u would be elected for fed. government u will do the same for the whole Ethiopia so why would u help your opponent insisting they should improve ..

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
Napoleon

Ethoash; I agree with most what you are saying but you missing the main point. I agree that Oromo were oppressed they deserve to get the chance to lead the nation and be equal to the rest of Ethiopians. The problem is, once their struggle to be equal achieved; they wanted to be superior to the rest of the Ethiopians. Everything is Kegna! I really don't care who leads the country as long as she/ he leads with peace and equality. Now, you seem to have a concern for my use the Galla word, well, when 86 lives were burned and slaughtered by the Qerro animals, the Oromo authority said no word in the lost lives and instead they declare their allegiance with the killer Ja-war. yet, two student died in Weldya university, all Galloch came out of a wood work crying. Now if this doesn't qualified them to be called Galla i don't know what. I don't know if you are an Oromo or not but sometimes it is what it is and Galla will never lead for long.

[Ethoash]

zmen,

there is such thing killing in cold blood what happened was in Weldya university is cold blood killing .. it is not the number of the victim matter .. if those two who were killed your brother and sister u would not say what u said.

not only Weldya university but there are many killing going on in Amhara region fano block road to golden, to start with .. second they were many killing the lose of the two doctors come to mind .. Ethiopia lost great asset by killing those two doctors.... my point is the killing is done from both side.. but counting victim doesnt benefit us .. what benefit us is learn from our mistake and move on... that is all we can do .. but if u want to revenge 86 victim then you will produce 100,000 victim.. to revenge 86 victim is to stop future victim ... how u do that by preventing hate speech.. to start with ..

about oromo feeling superior that can be fixed by federation system .. how much oromo got vote they only rule oromia and Amhara rule Amhara hence even if they r in fed. government their power is very much is limited.. Obama and Trump doesnt have unlimited power the fed. government job is listed and basically doesnt affect the regional state that much ....this much i can say to u... both killing is equal the number of dead doesnt matter no single person should not be killed ...

let me ask very simple question when Weldya university killed two do u think they r not exposing those Amhara who study in oromia .. can we not see any further then our hate.. when u do something u must think what would ur action bringing... do u remember the Amhara killed one golden students and the Golden revenge their dead and now no Amhar touch the golden .. all i am saying is think before u act . u cant insult the oromo all day long but think what that bringing u ... do u think they change their mind if u insulted them.. i wish u have the same feeling about the killing of 300 Gumiz children by Amhara at least i would have said u r fair person.. now u have two choice which ever choice u make there is risk attached to it.. and i wish u to select your choice in the best interest of mama Ethiopia and future benefit ... u might lose now but if u win later that is the price u should be willing to pay...