Ethiopian News, Current Affairs and Opinion Forum
EPRDF
Member
Posts: 1405
Joined: 26 Jan 2010, 12:58

Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by EPRDF » 06 Nov 2019, 17:25

The Amhara intellectuals inside Ethiopia and abroad, religious institutions, leaders of political organizations and activists associated with Amhara and its cause now pushing hard to link the current turmoil that claimed eighty six innocent lives with religion, Christian vs Islam.

The fact is Muslim makes half of the number of the victims those who perished in this ugly incident. The whole incident as it had clearly been seen, the perpetrators were Oromo Qeeros against non Oromo Ethiopians. No Islam or any other religion materialized in this carnage whatsoever. As the matter fact it was the Muslim Organiztion that denounced this act in a clear and strong term before any other organizations did.

The Oromo Qeero is a composition of both religion, Islam and Christian. The killers are both Christian and Muslim of Oromo natioinalities and the victims were both Christian and Muslims as well. Whereas this the truth, to take advantage of the situation, the Crook Amhara elites have been in doing everything in their power to paint the whole scenario with religious conflict as if Muslims purposely slaughtered Christians for their belief.

They have been in selling this false story to the whole world through the media they control and via their high rank profiles who are living in the western world. This is a very dangerous move for those who can see it a sober mind. Sadly, I ain't see no difference between Qeero and these Amhara elites who are playing religious card to gain some support from ferenji in order to promote their political agenda.

They are so stupid and reckless in their part to say the least.

@@
Member
Posts: 393
Joined: 05 Dec 2014, 11:35

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by @@ » 06 Nov 2019, 18:59

agame idiot. over 40 churches were burned and many christians including many oromo christians were killed especially in harar and arsi. ja-war is a jihadist and he must be exposed as he is.

Bete Gojjam
Member
Posts: 119
Joined: 02 Nov 2019, 03:48

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Bete Gojjam » 06 Nov 2019, 19:14

Cvcc hello devil dr.satan mr.diablos Buda.

Why do you make so many accounts no one cares about you ethnically Muslim aka Spazz attack arab go tie a rope around your neck bvtch dirty muslims in Amhara like you Wollo are real Gallas very dark and ugly face peoples :lol:

Koshasha Galla Kush Burnt kenyan faced bvtch from Wollo aka adam satan arab Ambeta

Anyways your myth about Muslims being pure is like saying oromo Christians are pure Amharas :lol:

I seriously believe we should start sterilizing you ugly Sudanese kenyan fereng faced Gallas in Wollo. Ugly ugly ugly little black slaves

Muslims in Amhara the most of them are Amharic speaking Oromos Gallas boranas koshashoch

Last edited by Bete Gojjam on 06 Nov 2019, 19:23, edited 1 time in total.

@@
Member
Posts: 393
Joined: 05 Dec 2014, 11:35

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by @@ » 06 Nov 2019, 19:18

shut up agame boy and stop talking about amhara and posting videos you nasty agame.
Bete Gojjam wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 19:14
Cvcc hello devil dr.satan mr.diablos Buda.

Why do you make so many accounts no one cares about you ethnically Muslim aka Spazz attack arab go tie a rope around your neck bvtch dirty muslims in Amhara like you Wollo are real Gallas very dark and ugly face peoples :lol:

Koshasha Galla Kush Burnt kenyan faced bvtch from Wollo aka adam satan arab Ambeta

Bete Gojjam
Member
Posts: 119
Joined: 02 Nov 2019, 03:48

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Bete Gojjam » 06 Nov 2019, 19:27

@@ wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 19:18
shut up agame boy and stop talking about amhara and posting videos you nasty agame.
Bete Gojjam wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 19:14
Cvcc hello devil dr.satan mr.diablos Buda.

Why do you make so many accounts no one cares about you ethnically Muslim aka Spazz attack arab go tie a rope around your neck bvtch dirty muslims in Amhara like you Wollo are real Gallas very dark and ugly face peoples :lol:

Koshasha Galla Kush Burnt kenyan faced bvtch from Wollo aka adam satan arab Ambeta
Get lost nasty safari CursedSafariWelo stinky Galla named Province.

Is this your view or pure Amharas :lol:?



Get lost witch

@@
Member
Posts: 393
Joined: 05 Dec 2014, 11:35

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by @@ » 06 Nov 2019, 19:46

agame boy i knew from the start what you are up to idiot dedebit dedeb
how low iq are you agames? :lol: :lol:
go to dedebit school and come back with another nick.
may be abebe2 or something :lol:
stick to your ugly agames and leave noble amhara alone

Bete Gojjam wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 19:27
@@ wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 19:18
shut up agame boy and stop talking about amhara and posting videos you nasty agame.
Bete Gojjam wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 19:14
Cvcc hello devil dr.satan mr.diablos Buda.

Why do you make so many accounts no one cares about you ethnically Muslim aka Spazz attack arab go tie a rope around your neck bvtch dirty muslims in Amhara like you Wollo are real Gallas very dark and ugly face peoples :lol:

Koshasha Galla Kush Burnt kenyan faced bvtch from Wollo aka adam satan arab Ambeta
Get lost nasty safari CursedSafariWelo stinky Galla named Province.

Is this your view or pure Amharas :lol:?



Get lost witch

Bete Gojjam
Member
Posts: 119
Joined: 02 Nov 2019, 03:48

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Bete Gojjam » 06 Nov 2019, 23:36

I was mentioning south Wollo which is predominantly dark Kenya faced peoples. Descendants of boranas.

Gojjam Amharas are more pure then borana Senbete bvtch
ccvvv wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 19:57
@Bete Gojjam

1) Im not Wolloye

2) The original Amharas come from wollo, and the lightest are from Wollo

2) There are a lot of Nilotic Christian N!ggers in who end up Gojjam and think that they are Amahras, ecasue they are Amharic speakers, and Ahya orthdox, but not highlanders by blood.

4) Wollo is not the only place where Oromos name after, it also Shewa where your precious fake Solomanic dynasty base on mythical people.

Bete Gojjam
Member
Posts: 119
Joined: 02 Nov 2019, 03:48

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Bete Gojjam » 06 Nov 2019, 23:38

And you muslims have no habesha culture bvtch Somali arab wanabes muslims unfortunately cannot even keep their own cultural garments and have to order clothes from Pakistan. Get lost Borana
ccvvv wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 20:14
@Bete Gojjam

Stupid Nilotic Galla N!gger who thinks he is Habesha only because he speaks Amharic and pratice Ahya Orthdox LOL.

And BTW Im no Wolloye.

zser
Member
Posts: 1
Joined: 07 Nov 2019, 00:26

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by zser » 07 Nov 2019, 00:30

Bete Galla N!gger, Bete Amhara was in Wollo not south "agew"/Nilotic [ deleted ] infested Gojjam. stop projecting.

BTW Im no Wollo, and since when did Amharic speakers want to be "arab", get lost Galla N!gger boy.

Bete Gojjam
Member
Posts: 119
Joined: 02 Nov 2019, 03:48

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Bete Gojjam » 07 Nov 2019, 02:56

Go die loser you and your other 45 different other nicks who do you think your fooling? Defiantly not me I recommend you to visit a mental hospital you clearly are disabled.

Also you idiot Gojjam is not Negro Nilotic infested like your propaganda Gojjames are pure habesha.




Za-Ilmaknun
Member
Posts: 1123
Joined: 15 Jun 2018, 17:40

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 07 Nov 2019, 12:01

EPRDF wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 17:25
The Amhara intellectuals inside Ethiopia and abroad, religious institutions, leaders of political organizations and activists associated with Amhara and its cause now pushing hard to link the current turmoil that claimed eighty six innocent lives with religion, Christian vs Islam.

The fact is Muslim makes half of the number of the victims those who perished in this ugly incident. The whole incident as it had clearly been seen, the perpetrators were Oromo Qeeros against non Oromo Ethiopians. No Islam or any other religion materialized in this carnage whatsoever. As the matter fact it was the Muslim Organiztion that denounced this act in a clear and strong term before any other organizations did.

The Oromo Qeero is a composition of both religion, Islam and Christian. The killers are both Christian and Muslim of Oromo natioinalities and the victims were both Christian and Muslims as well. Whereas this the truth, to take advantage of the situation, the Crook Amhara elites have been in doing everything in their power to paint the whole scenario with religious conflict as if Muslims purposely slaughtered Christians for their belief.

They have been in selling this false story to the whole world through the media they control and via their high rank profiles who are living in the western world. This is a very dangerous move for those who can see it a sober mind. Sadly, I ain't see no difference between Qeero and these Amhara elites who are playing religious card to gain some support from ferenji in order to promote their political agenda.

They are so stupid and reckless in their part to say the least.
"The current violence is, at the same time, a reflection of a broader trend of increased inter-religious tensions in Ethiopia over the last decade or so. Most of these have been of a local character, often related to contestations over building of mosques, claims about desecration of religious books or artifacts, and conflicts related to celebrations of religious rituals. Increased inter-religious fragility is intertwined with a number of factors, but remains connected to significant shifts in Ethiopia’s religious landscape over the last decades, which has become more dynamic and fluid where boundaries are transgressed, re-demarcated, negotiated, and contested. A full understanding of the current developments can thus only be achieved through an examination of these intertwined dynamics."

https://addisstandard.com/special-editi ... conflicts/

kerenite
Member
Posts: 2260
Joined: 16 Nov 2013, 13:15

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by kerenite » 07 Nov 2019, 13:42

EPRDF wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 17:25
The Amhara intellectuals inside Ethiopia and abroad, religious institutions, leaders of political organizations and activists associated with Amhara and its cause now pushing hard to link the current turmoil that claimed eighty six innocent lives with religion, Christian vs Islam.

The fact is Muslim makes half of the number of the victims those who perished in this ugly incident. The whole incident as it had clearly been seen, the perpetrators were Oromo Qeeros against non Oromo Ethiopians. No Islam or any other religion materialized in this carnage whatsoever. As the matter fact it was the Muslim Organiztion that denounced this act in a clear and strong term before any other organizations did.

The Oromo Qeero is a composition of both religion, Islam and Christian. The killers are both Christian and Muslim of Oromo natioinalities and the victims were both Christian and Muslims as well. Whereas this the truth, to take advantage of the situation, the Crook Amhara elites have been in doing everything in their power to paint the whole scenario with religious conflict as if Muslims purposely slaughtered Christians for their belief.

They have been in selling this false story to the whole world through the media they control and via their high rank profiles who are living in the western world. This is a very dangerous move for those who can see it a sober mind. Sadly, I ain't see no difference between Qeero and these Amhara elites who are playing religious card to gain some support from ferenji in order to promote their political agenda.

They are so stupid and reckless in their part to say the least.
Very mature points.

EPRDF
Member
Posts: 1405
Joined: 26 Jan 2010, 12:58

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by EPRDF » 08 Nov 2019, 13:08

@@ wrote:
06 Nov 2019, 18:59
agame idiot. over 40 churches were burned and many Christians including many oromo christians were killed especially in harar and arsi. ja-war is a jihadist and he must be exposed as he is.
Jawar, his media network OMN and any organisation that related to him can be held responsible by legal means for the loss of lives and the destruction due to sectarian unrest.

However, because Jawar Mohammed belongs to Islam faith, you cannot put you finger on the religion, Islam, and its fifty million followers inside Ethiopia for temporary political gain.

Another fact that needs to be underlined is that although Harerghe is predominantly Islamic region, Christian population constitutes almost half of the entire population of Harer city where the crime had been taken place.

Likewise, Ambo is mainly a Christian town but it is a power base for the Muslim, Arsi Oromo Jawar Mohammed. It’s its a numero uno place where Jawar enjoys tremendous support from the mass, and that mass is Christian majority.

EPRDF
Member
Posts: 1405
Joined: 26 Jan 2010, 12:58

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by EPRDF » 08 Nov 2019, 13:10

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
07 Nov 2019, 12:01

"The current violence is, at the same time, a reflection of a broader trend of increased inter-religious tensions in Ethiopia over the last decade or so. Most of these have been of a local character, often related to contestations over building of mosques, claims about desecration of religious books or artifacts, and conflicts related to celebrations of religious rituals. Increased inter-religious fragility is intertwined with a number of factors, but remains connected to significant shifts in Ethiopia’s religious landscape over the last decades, which has become more dynamic and fluid where boundaries are transgressed, re-demarcated, negotiated, and contested. A full understanding of the current developments can thus only be achieved through an examination of these intertwined dynamics."

https://addisstandard.com/special-editi ... conflicts/
Yes, you are right. There were tensions and even some skirmishes along religious line in the last decade and beyond. But that doesn’t justify anything for what happened a couple of weeks ago.

The current ongoing havoc is a national crisis and should be dealt accordingly. It needs to be addressed within the national political context and its reality on the ground. Politicizing religion to provoke certain religious community over another based on false allegations in order to get a momentum on the political push will further polarize the nation that had already been divided along ethnicity to the point of no return.

Sam Ebalalehu
Member
Posts: 917
Joined: 23 Jun 2018, 21:29

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 08 Nov 2019, 14:05

Singling out the Amhara " elites," the old, tired TPLF playbook, for every issue non tribal politicians and persons do not champion for is not going to work anymore. The implication that Jawar has not played the religion card to mobilize the Querros is downright silly. It is strange though the TPLF cadres who saw danger in politicizing religion when Meles was the prime minister , incarcerating many Moslem religious leaders, have become the defender of Jawar. That Moslems have died during the massacre do not disprove that religion not played a part. In a mob killing there is no question and verification required to justify who got the sword.
That religion played a part could be substantiated by looking where the killings occurred. It did not happen in Selale, Showa, where Christian Oromos live. It did not happen in Gimbi, Wellga, where the majority of them are Christians. It did happen in Arsi, Harar and Bale where a significant number of Moslem Oromos live. If not addressed outright, it might lead to a disaster Ethiopia cannot afford. We have seen tribal politicians who go to the extreme at the cost of destabilizing the country unless they get what they wish. Religious demagogues in fact could be even worse.

Za-Ilmaknun
Member
Posts: 1123
Joined: 15 Jun 2018, 17:40

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 08 Nov 2019, 14:49

It has become a habit for those who try to find a false equivalence in every mayhem that occur in the country to blame the Amaras. AS anything bad happens in any corner of the country, it is very predictive for ethnic zealots to deflect and drag the Amaras to even out the scale. We have come thus far and the punching bag is no more at stand still.

Notwithstanding the statistical narrative by the PM of the victims of the Qerro instigated violence, the cue and intentions behind are nothing but equally blaming the victims. The waning goodwill and the increasingly dwindling of support for the PM is eventually setting the stage for aggressive defending of the provocateurs and taking cheap shots at the victims. TPLF/OLF operatives are now coming up with a strategy of defining their perceived opponents yet with another sinister adjectives. All along tho, the Jawarian movement have never hidden its main targets of the sword. Anything and everything that could bridge the divide among the various ethnicity of the country have to be burned for him to be the Ayatollah of his imagined new country.

For the likes of the person who started this tread, self-defense is tantamount to aggression. The intentional blurring of the underlying issues and promoting a narrative that profusely blames the victims is their operandi. The 50m # that he pulls outta his behind is yet again another ploy to create the scare that could be employed if the victims are to stand to protect their religious rights.

EPRDF
Member
Posts: 1405
Joined: 26 Jan 2010, 12:58

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by EPRDF » 08 Nov 2019, 18:41

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 14:05
Singling out the Amhara " elites," the old, tired TPLF playbook, for every issue non tribal politicians and persons do not champion for is not going to work anymore.
Wendime Sam,

The stars on Ethiopian political stage are mainly From Oromo, Amhara and Tigraway ethnicities.
Anything that is striked from up north, it implicates Tigraway elites and that comes from Wellega goes to Oromo elites as Amhara elite will take the lion's share to be in charge for every political strike that is being carried out in the center of the country and in the exile. This is a fact and I have no apparent reason to single out Amhara elites as you may have thought.
The implication that Jawar has not played the religion card to mobilize the Querros is downright silly. It is strange though the TPLF cadres who saw danger in politicizing religion when Meles was the prime minister , incarcerating many Moslem religious leaders, have become the defender of Jawar. That Moslems have died during the massacre do not disprove that religion not played a part. In a mob killing there is no question and verification required to justify who got the sword.
That religion played a part could be substantiated by looking where the killings occurred. It did not happen in Selale, Showa, where Christian Oromos live. It did not happen in Gimbi, Wellga, where the majority of them are Christians. It did happen in Arsi, Harar and Bale where a significant number of Moslem Oromos live. If not addressed outright, it might lead to a disaster Ethiopia cannot afford. We have seen tribal politicians who go to the extreme at the cost of destabilizing the country unless they get what they wish. Religious demagogues in fact could be even worse.
Jawar’s closest aids and associates are Tsegaye Ararsa and Izkael Gabisa and both happened to be Christians and not Muslims. You sanctioned yourself in bringing Izkael, Tsegaye and their faith, Christianity, into this mess but you are quick to come into conclusion that the whole unrest and bloodshed we have witnessed thus far is to have been motivated based on religious hatred. And that is the make of one single Muslim person, Jawar Mohammed by himself, WoW you are amazing.

Anyways you are entitled to you opinion but all I can tell you is that the whole confrontation is between Oromo nationalism (Orommumma) which comprises both faiths, Islam/Christian, and the northern Habesha Amhara/Tigre invented Ethiopia.
Religion got nothing to do with this mess, but pushing the situation to that end would be opening the pandora box. That's my whole point.

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 14:49
For the likes of the person who started this tread, self-defense is tantamount to aggression. The intentional blurring of the underlying issues and promoting a narrative that profusely blames the victims is their operandi. The 50m # that he pulls outta his behind is yet again another ploy to create the scare that could be employed if the victims are to stand to protect their religious rights.
Now you have started to mix Oil and Water to satisfy you own ego.
BTW, I did not pull out the # from my behind, I pulled it out from behind of uncle Tom for whom you bow down to give you a rifle with which you want to kill Muslims.
Go ahead and best of luck.
According to the most recent 2007 CSA governmental data, Muslims are 33.9% of the population, up from 32.8% in 1994 (according to the census data of that year). The U.S. State Department, however, estimates that "approximately 45 percent of the population is Sunni Muslim."

Za-Ilmaknun
Member
Posts: 1123
Joined: 15 Jun 2018, 17:40

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 09 Nov 2019, 00:36

Aba..33% of 110 isn't 50 ...unless you are basing ur math on the tplf invented calculation.

EPRDF
Member
Posts: 1405
Joined: 26 Jan 2010, 12:58

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by EPRDF » 09 Nov 2019, 13:50

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 00:36
Aba..33% of 110 isn't 50 ...unless you are basing ur math on the tplf invented calculation.
You just love to see and read the thing that only pleases you as obvious it is.
According to the most recent 2007 CSA governmental data, Muslims are 33.9% of the population, up from 32.8% in 1994 (according to the census data of that year). The U.S. State Department, however, estimates that "approximately 45 percent of the population is Sunni Muslim."
Ok,110,000,000 times 45 divided by 100 = give me your # Mr. Genius.

Za-Ilmaknun
Member
Posts: 1123
Joined: 15 Jun 2018, 17:40

Re: Religious card is being played by Amhara elites now. Wow

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 13 Nov 2019, 12:38

EPRDF wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 13:50
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
09 Nov 2019, 00:36
Aba..33% of 110 isn't 50 ...unless you are basing ur math on the tplf invented calculation.
You just love to see and read the thing that only pleases you as obvious it is.
According to the most recent 2007 CSA governmental data, Muslims are 33.9% of the population, up from 32.8% in 1994 (according to the census data of that year). The U.S. State Department, however, estimates that "approximately 45 percent of the population is Sunni Muslim."
Ok,110,000,000 times 45 divided by 100 = give me your # Mr. Genius.
This is the thing with TPLF cadres. They don't even trust their own information and go out of their way to echo what others say about them when convenient. The selective way they portray things in the negative when it comes to a particular section of the society has to be based on crude hearsay received from outsiders. Now tell me who is seeing what one wants to see when fitting a narrative. Typical hypocrite ! Next time when you regurgitate your double digit growth attained under TPLF leadership, please make a reference to the uncle of same name.

Post Reply