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ጃዋር የአሜሪካዊነት ዜግነቱን ሊነጠቅ ነው:: ለአቤቱታ በቅርብ ቀን ወደ አሜሪካ ያቀናል!

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Post by Revelations » 20 Oct 2019, 12:33

ጃዋር የመናዊነቱን አጥብቆ እንዲይዝ እንመክራለን:: ከኢትዮጵያ የሚያቆራኙትን እናቱን ክዷል:: አሜሪካዊነቱን ሲያጣ ወደ የመን ያቅና!


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Post by Dawi » 20 Oct 2019, 13:28

Revelations wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 12:01
Rev,

I remember when Ermias 360 pointed out of Jawar's possible IRS "violations" a while ago however, after noting out his anger on the subject, alluded to not being interested in following through such vindictiveness; such actions don't make or help Ethiopians to be happier therefore, dwelling in spitefulness brings negative energy; let us abandon hate.

On the other hand, if we continue to bring the better side of Jawar, he may not do something he regrets.

I look at the picture hanging behind Jawar office as positive. :P

Cheers!

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Post by Revelations » 20 Oct 2019, 13:37

Dawi wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 13:28

Rev,

I remember when Ermias 360 pointed out of Jawar's possible IRS "violations" a while ago however, after noting out his anger on the subject, alluded to not being interested in following through such vindictiveness; such actions don't make or help Ethiopians to be happier therefore, dwelling in spitefulness brings negative energy; let us abandon hate.

On the other hand, if we continue to bring the better side of Jawar, he may not do something he regrets.

I look at the picture hanging behind Jawar office as positive. :P

Cheers!
Dawi, which one/two etc of the following do you think Jawar violated? Don't be shy!

https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/vol ... -chapter-2


Chapter 2 - Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization


A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally


A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]

Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]
B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]

1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;

The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and

The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]

2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.
C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

The person became a U.S. citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]

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Post by Dawi » 20 Oct 2019, 14:13

Revelations wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 13:37
Dawi, which one/two etc of the following do you think Jawar violated? Don't be shy!
Any of them would do; go ahead make Jawar's day!

There is no shortage of skeletons in the closets among Ethiopian immigrants.

If anything, any 'vindictiveness" from our side, is going to embolden Jawar; it is not going to make him do any less. That doesn't mean it will make him any worst either. I think he is beyond the emotional stage at this point of his life.

The question is, can we be less emotional and less vindictive?

We can learn from Dr. Abiy on that subject. As a PM he is between a rock and hard place.
Revelations wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 13:37
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/vol ... -chapter-2


Chapter 2 - Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization


A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally


A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]

Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]
B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]

1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;

The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and

The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]

2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.
C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

The person became a U.S. citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]

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Post by Revelations » 20 Oct 2019, 14:35

Huh! You're worried for you. Understood!
Dawi wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 14:13
Revelations wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 13:37
Dawi, which one/two etc of the following do you think Jawar violated? Don't be shy!
Any of them would do; go ahead make Jawar's day!

There is no shortage of skeletons in the closets among Ethiopian immigrants.

If anything, any 'vindictiveness" from our side, is going to embolden Jawar; it is not going to make him do any less. That doesn't mean it will make him any worst either. I think he is beyond the emotional stage at this point of his life.

The question is, can we be less emotional and less vindictive?

We can learn from Dr. Abiy on that subject. As a PM he is between a rock and hard place.
Revelations wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 13:37
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/vol ... -chapter-2


Chapter 2 - Grounds for Revocation of Naturalization


A. Person Procures Naturalization Illegally


A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if he or she procured naturalization illegally. Procuring naturalization illegally simply means that the person was not eligible for naturalization in the first place. Accordingly, any eligibility requirement for naturalization that was not met can form the basis for an action to revoke the naturalization of a person. This includes the requirements of residence, physical presence, lawful admission for permanent residence, good moral character, and attachment to the U.S. Constitution. [1]

Discovery that a person failed to comply with any of the requirements for naturalization at the time the person became a U.S. citizen renders his or her naturalization illegally procured. This applies even if the person is innocent of any willful deception or misrepresentation. [2]
B. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation [3]

1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination.

In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;

The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and

The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

This ground of revocation includes omissions as well as affirmative misrepresentations. The misrepresentations can be oral testimony provided during the naturalization interview or can include information contained on the application submitted by the applicant. The courts determine whether the misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material. The test for materiality is whether the misrepresentations or concealment had a tendency to affect the decision. It is not necessary that the information, if disclosed, would have precluded naturalization. [5]

2. Membership or Affiliation with Certain Organizations

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization. [6] In general, a person who is involved with such organizations cannot establish the naturalization requirements of having an attachment to the Constitution and of being well-disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. [7]

The fact that a person becomes involved with such an organization within five years after the date of naturalization is prima facie evidence that he or she concealed or willfully misrepresented material evidence that would have prevented the person’s naturalization.
C. Other than Honorable Discharge before Five Years of Honorable Service after Naturalization

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if:

The person became a U.S. citizen through naturalization on the basis of honorable service in the U.S. armed forces; [8]

The person subsequently separates from the U.S. armed forces under other than honorable conditions; and

The other than honorable discharge occurs before the person has served honorably for a period or periods aggregating at least five years. [9]


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Post by Dawi » 20 Oct 2019, 23:34

Revelations wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 15:10

Rev,

What Jawar needs is "LOSE weight" not to "loose" his belly up! That is not going to help.

I hope his only problem stays to be "weight". He needs to pray that you & vindictive friends don't do "Ilhan Omar" on him! :cry:



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Post by Revelations » 21 Oct 2019, 01:17

Dawi,

You have made it clear to us all that you have some skeletons in your closet which you fear can be pulled out by your vindictive enemies. How can we help you and how does it relate to the subject of this thread?

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Post by Tog Wajale » 21 Oct 2019, 02:29

Jawar Mohammed Zemechaa, Lemma Megerssa, Takelle Qummar, Hayna Face Berhanu Nega, Hodam Aberre Adammu Aggammu & Tejjo Will Be Apprehended Or Assassinated By Gallant Amara People Very Soon. Mark Our Words It Is Coming.

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Post by Dawi » 21 Oct 2019, 02:32

Revelations wrote:
21 Oct 2019, 01:17
Dawi,

You have made it clear to us all that you have some skeletons in your closet which you fear can be pulled out by your vindictive enemies. How can we help you and how does it relate to the subject of this thread?
Rev,

Thanks. But No Thanks! ;~)

I rather deal with it myself!

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Post by Revelations » 21 Oct 2019, 07:28

Dawi wrote:
21 Oct 2019, 02:32
Revelations wrote:
21 Oct 2019, 01:17
Dawi,

You have made it clear to us all that you have some skeletons in your closet which you fear can be pulled out by your vindictive enemies. How can we help you and how does it relate to the subject of this thread?
Rev,

Thanks. But No Thanks! ;~)

I rather deal with it myself!
Great! Never keep skeletons in your closet. Grave yards are meant for the dead deeds!

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Post by Revelations » 21 Oct 2019, 11:52

Dawi,

based on all the info I provided, is it clear to you that tax related infractions won't lead to losing citizenship? Hope you can relax about that skeleton in your closet. :P

Dawi wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 13:28


Rev,

I remember when Ermias 360 pointed out of Jawar's possible IRS "violations" a while ago however, after noting out his anger on the subject, alluded to not being interested in following through such vindictiveness; such actions don't make or help Ethiopians to be happier therefore, dwelling in spitefulness brings negative energy; let us abandon hate.

On the other hand, if we continue to bring the better side of Jawar, he may not do something he regrets.

I look at the picture hanging behind Jawar office as positive. :P

Cheers!

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Post by Dawi » 21 Oct 2019, 14:43

Revelations wrote:
21 Oct 2019, 11:52
Dawi,

based on all the info I provided, is it clear to you that tax related infractions won't lead to losing citizenship? Hope you can relax about that skeleton in your closet. :P

Rev,

I am glad about that; just got through Oct 15, last day of Tax-extension dead line.

Thanks for the info.

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