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Lucky Eritrea

Post by justo » 21 Sep 2019, 02:01

The gods have blessed Eritrea with great geography, harmonious people and dedicated leadership, who now are creating their own perennial rivers which have greatly increased precipitation by over 300% and are now covering the country with thick forests and wild animals, hopefully with enough room for fairies and elves.

As such, Eritrea is so content with being itself. So much so that it is the only country in the world that wants nothing that anybody else owns and wants to be nothing except being itself.

The US eyes Iranian off-fields, China hungers for African steel, Tigrai badly wants to be Eritrean, and Eritrea simply chills content being itself.

While others are polluting god given rivers, Eritrea is creating rivers out of rain drops. Let the era of Eritrean romanticism begin, long live man made rivers, fairies and elves!

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Meleket » 21 Sep 2019, 04:38

ብዛዕባ ኣብ መዳይ ሕርሻን ምስራሕ ራህያታትን ዲጋታት ዚግበር ዛሎ ጻዕሪን ዓወትን ግርም ገሊጭካ!

ከምቱይ ኣማሪካ ንናይ ኢራናዉያን ነዳዲ ትሓርፎ፣ ከምቱይ ቻይና ንዕዳጋን ሓጻዉንን ኣፍሪካ ትሓርፎ፣ መራሕቲ ወያነ ንመሬትን ባሕርን ኤርትራና ዝሓርፍዎ ከምኡ ድማ

ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስትያን ኤርትራ ካብ መእመናናን ኣብ ምሉእ ዓለም ካብ ዛለዉ ካቶሊካዉያን ኣሕዋታ ብምትህብባር ንዝሓነጸቶ፣ ሓዋርያዊ ኣገልግሎት እትህበለንን ሕጋዊ ዋንነታ ንዝዀኑ ክሊኒካታን ሆስፒታላታን ኣብያተ ትምህርታን ዚሓርፍን፡ ምስ መራሕቲ ጳጳሳታ ከይተላዘበ፣ ዚጎብጥን ዚህግርን ባእታ ኣብ ኤርትራና ኣሎ። እዙይ ኣይገለጭካዮን! ሓቀኛ ህልው ታሪኽ እንደኣልና ንስንድ ዛሎና!

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Tog Wajale » 21 Sep 2019, 04:39


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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by justo » 21 Sep 2019, 05:20

Meleket wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 04:38
ብዛዕባ ኣብ መዳይ ሕርሻን ምስራሕ ራህያታትን ዲጋታት ዚግበር ዛሎ ጻዕሪን ዓወትን ግርም ገሊጭካ!

ከምቱይ ኣማሪካ ንናይ ኢራናዉያን ነዳዲ ትሓርፎ፣ ከምቱይ ቻይና ንዕዳጋን ሓጻዉንን ኣፍሪካ ትሓርፎ፣ መራሕቲ ወያነ ንመሬትን ባሕርን ኤርትራና ዝሓርፍዎ ከምኡ ድማ

ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስትያን ኤርትራ ካብ መእመናናን ኣብ ምሉእ ዓለም ካብ ዛለዉ ካቶሊካዉያን ኣሕዋታ ብምትህብባር ንዝሓነጸቶ፣ ሓዋርያዊ ኣገልግሎት እትህበለንን ሕጋዊ ዋንነታ ንዝዀኑ ክሊኒካታን ሆስፒታላታን ኣብያተ ትምህርታን ዚሓርፍን፡ ምስ መራሕቲ ጳጳሳታ ከይተላዘበ፣ ዚጎብጥን ዚህግርን ባእታ ኣብ ኤርትራና ኣሎ። እዙይ ኣይገለጭካዮን! ሓቀኛ ህልው ታሪኽ እንደኣልና ንስንድ ዛሎና!
Absolutely, we have much to achieve in the political sphere. But I still believe that we are much better than many who profess to practice democracy and profess to respect humans and their rights. They say certain things, and do totally the opposite.

About religion in general, we will have to understand that Eritrea has a delicate balance with 4 major faiths, who have for centuries lived in harmony with each other.

External forces, whether they are in the Vatican (catholics), or Sweden /USA (protestants) or Cairo (orthodox) or Mecca (muslims) have to understand this and should not try to advance their position with so-called "humanitarian" activities, a free for all financial competition coming from the Vatican, Mecca, or the West each building its schools, hospitals, orphanages and so on and so on , that is not going to cut it.

Religion has been the source of much strife in the world, lucky Eritrea being the only exception.

We don't want external actors to export their conflicts to us. We value our religious harmony greatly, and it requires delicate balancing that everybody has to respect.

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Meleket » 22 Sep 2019, 03:55

ሓወይ justo እቱይ ዝበልካዮ ጽቡቕ ቢልኻ ኣሎኻ። ንነፍስና ምስ ካልኦት እናነጻጸርና ካብ መኣል ኩስቶ ንሓይሽ ኢና ምባል’ኳ ንኣና ብዙሕ ኣይኽጠቕመናን ኢዩ። እቱይ ዝጠቕመና ንጌጋታትና እናኣረምና ምኻድ ኢዩ። ንኣብነት ሕጋዊ ንብረት ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስትያን (ክሊኒካት ሆስፒታላት ቤት ትምህርትታት) ኪሕገር ወይ ኪምንዛዕ እሞ ድማ ምስቶም መራሕቲ ካቶሊካዊት ቤተክርስትያን ከይተላዘብኻ ሕጋዊ ንብረት ቤተክርስትያን ብኃይሊ ብዘይ ልዝብ ምውሳድን ምህጋርን ምምንዛዕን ዓቢ ጌጋ ስለዝዀነ ኪእረም ኣይግብኦን’ዶ፧ ምስ ዜጋታትካ እሞ ድማ ምስ መራሕቲ ቤተክርስትያን ንምልዛብ ዜሰክፍ ስለምንታይ ኢዩ፧ ኣማኢት ዓመታት ዘቝጸረ ቤት ምህሮ ምዕጻዉከ ምስ ምንታይ ይቝጸር፧ ልዝብ ምስ መራሕቲ እምነት እናጎዳነብኻ ካብ ካልኦት ንሓይሽ ምባል ንነብስና ምጥባር እምበር ብዙሕ ትርጉም ዚወሃቦ ኣይዀነን። ኣመጽቲ ባዕዳዉያን ደርጊ ከምኡዉን ወያነ ከምኡ እንደኣሎም ጌርም! ደርጊ ክንደይ ንብረት ገዳማትን ቤት ትምህርትታት ብኃይሊ ብዘይ ልዝብ ሃጊሩን ወሲዱን ወያነ ድማ ከምኡ ንብረት ኣሽሓት ኤርትራዉያን ብኃይሊ ብዘይ ልዝብ ሃጊሩን ወሪሱን። እዙይ ሓሶት ዲዩ፧ ነዙይ ኣሉ ዚብል ኅልና ኣሎኒ ዚብል ሰብ ኣሎ ዲዩ፧


“ሓቂ፡ ሓሞት ኢያ መራር ንዘይፈልጣ!” ዲዮም ዝበሉ ገዲም ድምጻዊ ኣቶ ኣተወብርሃን ሰጊድ!

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Awash » 22 Sep 2019, 04:36

justo wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 02:01
The gods have blessed Eritrea with great geography, harmonious people and dedicated leadership, who now are creating their own perennial rivers which have greatly increased precipitation by over 300% and are now covering the country with thick forests and wild animals, hopefully with enough room for fairies and elves.

As such, Eritrea is so content with being itself. So much so that it is the only country in the world that wants nothing that anybody else owns and wants to be nothing except being itself... blah blah blah
Wake up from your zombified state of mind.
Eritrea is a prison state – no wonder so many are desperate to escape

Sun 18 Sep 2016 03.00 EDTLast modified on Wed 31 May 2017 11.59 EDT

Exactly 15 years ago, Eritrea’s hard-won independence was hijacked by a paranoid political elite who have clung to power ever since...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... 3b3wFaoew4

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Sep 2019, 05:28

ለባማት ደቂ ሃገር ተኸባቢሮም ይላዘቡ: ጓና መንደላይ ተመን ድማ: አብ መንጎኦም አትዩ ይናኸስ!!!
Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 04:36
justo wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 02:01
The gods have blessed Eritrea with great geography, harmonious people and dedicated leadership, who now are creating their own perennial rivers which have greatly increased precipitation by over 300% and are now covering the country with thick forests and wild animals, hopefully with enough room for fairies and elves.

As such, Eritrea is so content with being itself. So much so that it is the only country in the world that wants nothing that anybody else owns and wants to be nothing except being itself... blah blah blah
Wake up from your zombified state of mind.
Eritrea is a prison state – no wonder so many are desperate to escape

Sun 18 Sep 2016 03.00 EDTLast modified on Wed 31 May 2017 11.59 EDT

Exactly 15 years ago, Eritrea’s hard-won independence was hijacked by a paranoid political elite who have clung to power ever since...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... 3b3wFaoew4

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by justo » 22 Sep 2019, 05:36

Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 04:36

Wake up from your zombified state of mind.[/size]
Eritrea is a prison state – no wonder so many are desperate to escape
Exactly 15 years ago, Eritrea’s hard-won independence was hijacked by a paranoid political elite who have clung to power ever since..
I followed your link and what do I find, ቺስታው Wedi Soros peddling anti-Eritrea narrative in some of the west's best propaganda outlets. No wonder why they gave him a scholarship and are promoting him with free access to write for Al Jazira, The Guardian, NYT, WP, etc etc.

ድኻ መደኽደኽ Wedi Soros is the chairman of The Eritrean Pen association, a sister org to the Check Pen outfit that was used to bring down the USSR. The west will always find ድኻ መደኽደኽ like Wedi Soros, they will improve their lives and have them serve them as if we could care.

Actually I am happy that ድኻ መደኽደኽ Wedi Soros is picking their pockets without telling them that Eritreans do not listen to this kind of propaganda.

ሓዉና መለኸት ዝበልካዮ ሓቂዩ። ካብ ካልኦት ይሓይሽ ምባል ፋይዳ የብሉን። አቲ ዝበለጸ ጉድለትካ ምእራም እዩ ዝሓሸ። ግን ካብ ካልኦት ትሓምቕ ኢሎም ምስ ኣጽመሙኻ ትብሎ ነገር እዩ አምበር ስቕ ኢልካ ካብ መሬት ተላዒልካ ትብሎ ኣዮኮነን። እንታይ እሞ ክንገብር ካብ ኩሉ ትሓምቁ እንዳበሉ ብኮምዚ ዓይነት ፕሮፕርጋንዳ እንዶ ኣጽሚሞና። ዕረፍቲ ዘይብሉ ፕሮፓጋንዳ ነዛ ምስኪን ሃገር።

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Awash » 22 Sep 2019, 08:31

Speaking of ጓና. Stop blaming Soros for everything under the sun. Morons
Zmeselo wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 05:28
ለባማት ደቂ ሃገር ተኸባቢሮም ይላዘቡ: ጓና መንደላይ ተመን ድማ: አብ መንጎኦም አትዩ ይናኸስ!!!
Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 04:36
justo wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 02:01
The gods have blessed Eritrea with great geography, harmonious people and dedicated leadership, who now are creating their own perennial rivers which have greatly increased precipitation by over 300% and are now covering the country with thick forests and wild animals, hopefully with enough room for fairies and elves.

As such, Eritrea is so content with being itself. So much so that it is the only country in the world that wants nothing that anybody else owns and wants to be nothing except being itself... blah blah blah
Wake up from your zombified state of mind.
Eritrea is a prison state – no wonder so many are desperate to escape

Sun 18 Sep 2016 03.00 EDTLast modified on Wed 31 May 2017 11.59 EDT

Exactly 15 years ago, Eritrea’s hard-won independence was hijacked by a paranoid political elite who have clung to power ever since...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... 3b3wFaoew4

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Awash » 22 Sep 2019, 09:11


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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by justo » 22 Sep 2019, 09:33

Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 09:11
We've heard this before. Just do this experiment, open the US. borders to Mexico and see how many young people would remain in Honduras, Bolivia, Guatemala, Venezuela and Costa Rica, just open it for few weeks (not for years as they've done to Eritrea)

Do you think if Spain welcomes Senegalese och Moroccans, there will remain young people there. The Eritreans have shown you why they came by going to Eritrean festivals in droves wearing Sawa uniforms.

BTW these people are not going to the Sahara straight from Sawa, they are going to Libya and Sinai after living for many months or years in Khartoum and Addis Abeba. The first escape, from Eritrea to Ethiopia or Sudan, we can assume was an escape from Sawa. What about the 2nd leg of the journey from Khartoum or Addis to Sinai and Libya, was that also to escape from Sawa?

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Sep 2019, 09:48

ላዕሊ ላዕሊ'ሞ: ምጥማት ግደፎ!

ምስ justo'ን meleket'ን አረአኢኻ እኳ እዩ: ጓና ዝገብረካ::

ወዲ አፎም'ድአ: አብዚ ዓለም ከምዘለኻ'ኳ ዘይፈልጥ::

ዕቅንካ ፍለጥ! ናይ መቐለ'ኻ ግበር!

ሓንቲ ደርፊ እንዳቃኔኻ ድማ: ሰብ አይተጽምም! ትነዝሖ ስሚ'ድማ: ምሳና አይሰርሕን'ዩ! እቲ አስናንካ: ዓመታት ይገብር ስለዘጉረፍናዮ::

Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 08:31
Speaking of ጓና. Stop blaming Soros for everything under the sun. Morons
Zmeselo wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 05:28
ለባማት ደቂ ሃገር ተኸባቢሮም ይላዘቡ: ጓና መንደላይ ተመን ድማ: አብ መንጎኦም አትዩ ይናኸስ!!!
Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 04:36
justo wrote:
21 Sep 2019, 02:01
The gods have blessed Eritrea with great geography, harmonious people and dedicated leadership, who now are creating their own perennial rivers which have greatly increased precipitation by over 300% and are now covering the country with thick forests and wild animals, hopefully with enough room for fairies and elves.

As such, Eritrea is so content with being itself. So much so that it is the only country in the world that wants nothing that anybody else owns and wants to be nothing except being itself... blah blah blah
Wake up from your zombified state of mind.
Eritrea is a prison state – no wonder so many are desperate to escape

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Exactly 15 years ago, Eritrea’s hard-won independence was hijacked by a paranoid political elite who have clung to power ever since...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... 3b3wFaoew4

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Awash » 22 Sep 2019, 14:21

Listen to this falso. Why did you not stay there and rot in refugee camp? No, you had haul your refugee asz all the way here where you are treated like a human being and given citizenship. The Eritrean peopleare fleeing from the worst of the worst regimes on earth, fasist, totalitarian control freaks and savage/harsh ttyrants.
justo wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 09:33
Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 09:11
We've heard this .. blah blah blah...
...BTW these people are not going to the Sahara straight from Sawa, they are going to Libya and Sinai after living for many months or years in Khartoum and Addis Abeba. The first escape, from Eritrea to Ethiopia or Sudan, we can assume was an escape from Sawa. What about the 2nd leg of the journey from Khartoum or Addis to Sinai and Libya, was that also to escape from Sawa?

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by justo » 22 Sep 2019, 15:53

Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 14:21
Listen to this falso. Why did you not stay there and rot in refugee camp? No, you had haul your refugee asz all the way here where you are treated like a human being and given citizenship. The Eritrean peopleare fleeing from the worst of the worst regimes on earth, fasist, totalitarian control freaks and savage/harsh ttyrants.[/size]
Awetash, why are you getting all worked up?
I didn't say they should rot in refugee camps.
What I said was that they would rather go to Libya and Sinai rather than rot in camps in Ethiopia and Sudan.
They went to Libya, because they DIDN'T WANT TO ROT IN REFUGEE CAMPS.
They did not go to Libya because they were FLEEING FROM SAWA.
Do you dig the difference, you rotten ugly girl?

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Awash » 22 Sep 2019, 16:05

justo wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 15:53
Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 14:21
Listen to this falso. Why did you not stay there and rot in refugee camp? No, you had haul your refugee asz all the way here where you are treated like a human being and given citizenship. The Eritrean peopleare fleeing from the worst of the worst regimes on earth, fasist, totalitarian control freaks and savage/harsh ttyrants.[/size]
Awetash, why are you getting all worked up?
I didn't say they should rot in refugee camps.
What I said was that they would rather go to Libya and Sinai rather than rot in camps in Ethiopia and Sudan.
They went to Libya, because they DIDN'T WANT TO ROT IN REFUGEE CAMPS.
They did not go to Libya because they were FLEEING FROM SAWA.
Do you dig the difference, you rotten ugly girl?
Falso agamesh,
How else can they go to a place that will grant them asylum but through Sudan, Ethiopia, Djibouti? They can't just fly out of Penetentieria and get to a normal state that can give then dignity and respect according to international law. Btw, did you know there are still Eritrean refugees in Sudan from the '60s and '70s rotting in camps? Even during independence your Agame tyrants wouldn't allow them to return to their homeland?

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Zmeselo » 22 Sep 2019, 16:16

Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 16:05
justo wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 15:53
Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 14:21
Listen to this falso. Why did you not stay there and rot in refugee camp? No, you had haul your refugee asz all the way here where you are treated like a human being and given citizenship. The Eritrean peopleare fleeing from the worst of the worst regimes on earth, fasist, totalitarian control freaks and savage/harsh ttyrants.[/size]
Awetash, why are you getting all worked up?
I didn't say they should rot in refugee camps.
What I said was that they would rather go to Libya and Sinai rather than rot in camps in Ethiopia and Sudan.
They went to Libya, because they DIDN'T WANT TO ROT IN REFUGEE CAMPS.
They did not go to Libya because they were FLEEING FROM SAWA.
Do you dig the difference, you rotten ugly girl?
Falso agamesh,
How else can they go to a place that will grant them asylum but through Sudan, Ethiopia, Djibouti? They can't just fly out of Penetentieria and get to a normal state that can give then dignity and respect according to international law. Btw, did you know there are still Eritrean refugees in Sudan from the '60s and '70s rotting in camps? Even during independence your Agame tyrants wouldn't allow them to return to their homeland?

Lying POS! :twisted:

Why don't you talk about identity theft from shimbella camp huh, you mierda?



Eritreans head home from Sudan after decades in exile

Eritrean refugees - some of Africa’s longest-standing exiles - are returning home from neighbouring Sudan, after a months-long delay. UNHCR officials hope the return will help build confidence between the two African countries.

By Kitty McKinsey | 09 July 2003

https://www.unhcr.org/news/latest/2003/ ... exile.html


Eritrean refugees head home from Sudan in a truck convoy. © UNHCR/S.Boness

TESSENEY, Eritrea (UNHCR) - More than 1,600 of Africa’s longest-standing refugees have now returned home in an exercise that has seen UNHCR acting as a confidence-building bridge between neighbours Sudan and Eritrea.

UNHCR has helped the Eritreans - some of whom were born in exile since the 1960s and have never seen their homeland - return to Eritrea in four convoys from Sudan starting June 23. The fifth and last planned convoy of the season moved on Tuesday (July 9), taking 240 refugees and their possessions from camps in eastern Sudan before the rainy season starts in earnest.

“It was really magnificent to see people returning home,” said UNHCR’s representative in Sudan Ahmed Farah, who accompanied the first convoy in June. “The returnees got a magnificent reception.” Representatives of ERREC (the Eritrean Relief and Refugee Commission) “were very excited to receive their own back,” added Farah.

Resumption of the convoys - suspended in July, 2002 for last year’s rainy season - had been delayed for eight months by border tensions between Sudan and Eritrea. The border area still remains closed to civilian traffic, but UNHCR managed to persuade the two governments to open a humanitarian corridor to allow the passage of return convoys.

“Modestly, at our level, we managed to make a breakthrough,” said Farah. “I don’t want to claim too much, but it has been a good breakthrough [in relations between Sudan and Eritrea], and if it has reverberations further, all the better.”

On the other side of the border, Cristian Koch, UNHCR’s top official in Eritrea, agreed that “the fact of reassuming the operation on ad hoc agreement by both sides is an important confidence-building step between the two countries.”

In one of the most recent convoys, last Saturday, 654 individuals returned home in 15 passenger buses. They were accompanied by 50 trucks and 21 trailers carrying the refugees’ possessions, in addition to four trucks that transported their livestock.

Saturday’s convoy reached the border in good time, despite three days of heavy rain that had made the roads difficult to navigate. It brought to 1,412 individuals (grouped in 578 families) the number of refugees who have returned home since June 23.

The convoys cross the border between the towns of Laffa in Sudan and Talatasher in Eritrea. At a transit point at the border, their luggage and livestock are transferred to waiting trucks, and the returnees are taken to a transit centre in the Eritrean border town of Tesseney. Many are proceeding to their villages of origin near Tesseney after receiving a cash grant, basic household supplied and three months’ worth of food supplied by the UN World Food Programme.

UNHCR’s Farah said even UNHCR officials found the return a moving occasion. “After many months of waiting to open the border, it was a wonderful feeling, very emotional.”

After the usual suspension for the rainy season, convoys are scheduled to resume again in September to assist thousands of Eritrean refugees in Sudan who have registered to go home. Since May 2001, 103,000 Eritrean refugees have returned from Sudan, more than 50,000 of them with UNHCR assistance.

In February, 2002, UNHCR announced that refugees from Eritrea - those who fled their country after the war of independence, as well as more recent refugees from the border conflict between Ethiopia and Eritrea - should no longer have a well-founded fear of persecution. This means they were no longer to be considered refugees after December 31, 2002, unless they can prove their individual circumstances justify such status.

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

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More than 100,000 migrants that reached Italy in the last four years claimed to be Eritreans but many were not. It is found that around 40% are Ethiopians, using fake Eritrean identity to obtain political asylum.

The Scam of Fake Eritrean Refugees Who are Actually Ethiopians

21 DEC 2017

BY FAUSTO BILOSLAVO | VOX NEWS


https://voxnews.info/2017/12/20/la-truf ... no-etiopi/
At the reception centres I have visited in the past year, at least one third of Eritreans are frauds. The majority of them are Ethiopians from the Tigray region, who speak the same language and have similar somatic traits to our own.
This is the disconcerting scam denounced by an asylum seeker from Asmara.

He adds,
In Africa, owing to corruption, they steal and sell our identities because we have a right to international protection, but we are surprised that this is tolerated in Italy.
Eritreans waiting to obtain asylum in our country are few now, 2.651 and arrivals are declining (6.386 in 2017). But from 2013, when the boom started after the terrible shipwreck in Lampedusa (368 deaths), 109,266 migrants reached Italy declaring to be Eritreans. Most of them travelled on to Switzerland, Germany or other Northern European Countries.

Over a third of them is actually of Ethiopian nationality, that is migrants for economic reasons who do not have a right to political asylum.

Two years ago Austrian Ambassador Andreas Melan denounced the catch claiming https://www.tesfanews.net/40-percent-of ... thiopians/ that
30-40 per cent of Eritrean refugees in Europe are actually Ethiopians.
Incidentally: between Ethiopia and Eritrea there’s no love lost, after the bloody war of 1998, which still hasn’t traced a defined border. The strong man of Asmara President Isaias Afewerki, is accused of being an authoritarian leader with little respect for human rights, even if recently the situation is allegedly improving. But young people continue to flee: in order not to be subject to the burdensome military service as well as for economic reasons, looking for a Western Eldorado.

Today the Eritrean Ambassador in Rome Mr. Pietros Fessahazion reiterated:
40 per cent of those who are granted political asylum are in fact Ethiopians.
Panorama inquired on this issue, bringing a mechanism to light based on theft of identity, which starts from the UN refugee camps in Ethiopia and Sudan, where crooked cultural mediators overlook the real nationality of migrants and characters like Eritrean don Mussie Zerai, capable of mobilizing sea rescues to retrieve boats off the coasts of Libya.

True Eritrean asylum seekers reveal the details themselves.

We have met them and know their identity, but in this article, they are indicated with made up names to avoid repercussions for them.
In the Mai Ayni refugee camp in Ethiopia, they stole my identity
explains Fasil, who arrived in Italy on a boat.
After waiting for years for relocation by UN to one of the available countries, I found out that another person had left using my name.
The countries who accept Eritreans through the UN are the Unites States, Canada, Australia, Norway, France and more recently Italy.

The young Eritrean, who is 27 years old, recalls the embarrassment of the Western officer of the UN Agency for refugees (UNCHR), who checked my name on the computer:
she was bewildered. My details were correct, but the photo of the person who had already left, thanks to the UN, was not mine. They had cheated me.
According to Eritreans, selling identities or documents in Africa, particularly to Ethiopians is an established business. The price of the full operation in local currency varies between 50,000 birr (1840 euro) to 150 thousand birr (ca. 5500 euro.) An Eritrean identity card is sold at 900 USD.

In the past four years there have been 12,916 asylum applications in Italy, but over 100 thousand migrants who arrived by sea declared themselves to be Eritreans when they disembarked.

In July, the Minister of Information in Asmara, Yemane Gebre Meskel, declared to the BBC that
the number of Eritreans leaving their Country has been exaggerated. Between 40 and 60 per cent are from Ethiopia or other Countries from the Horn of Africa.
Yosef, the oldest of the asylum seekers met by Panorama staff, tells us of how
fake Eritreans ask for details about my country or about the national anthem, to support their lies about their nationality. It happened to me at the Red Cross centre in via Ramazzini, now dismantled, and at the Cara centre in Bari.
Munir and Futsum, both of wiry appeal, who arrived in November, confirm:
in the reception centre of the capital, where we live, a fake Eritrean asked how many colours our flag has. He was an Ethiopian who had to be interviewed for his asylum application.
Different cultural mediators and interpreters turn a blind eye or even favour the “scam” of Eritrean refugees.
For 15 years, I worked as an interpreter in the Commissions for asylum recognition
tells an Italian-Eritrean lady.
So many Tigrinyans from Ethiopia obtained protection, saying they were fleeing from Asmara. I did not report anyone to the Embassy, but they accused us of being spies of the Eritrean Government: so they hired Ethiopian interpreters.


Don Mussie Zerai, the “Moses of migrants” as he is acclaimed in a book, has been a reference point for years, above all for Eritreans who arrive on boats. Since August he has been under investigation https://www.tesfanews.net/italy-police- ... sie-zerai/ by the Police in Trapani on NGOs for “favouring illegal immigration”.

Zerai is part of a network of Eritrean activists in Europe who hopes for a regime change in Asmara.
When I was still in Eritrea, I heard that Zerai could help us reach Italy
explains another asylum seeker, who has been in Rome since 2016.
Before I left Libya there was talk of this priest who would send rescues.
A source of the Coast Guard stresses that
the requests of intervention from Zerai soon appeared as an anomaly repeated in time. The rescue warnings for boats that left Libya almost always came from him. The suspicion is that he is part of a system, of a well established network.
The priest denies allegations, claiming he always acted “in respect of the law for humanitarian reasons”. And secured himself a number of political covers. Starting from President [of the Chamber of Deputies] Laura Boldrini, who received him at the Chamber.

On 3rd October, then, during the commemoration of the Lampedusa shipwreck of 2013, he held the celebration, despite being under investigation, in front of the President of the Senate Piero Grasso (today also leader of Liberi e Uguali Political Party) and the Minister for Education Valeria Fedeli.

Lucio Montanino, Pietro Gallo and Christian Ricci, on board the Vos Hestia of Save the Children as safety officers started investigations on the NGOs of Trapani, also speaking about the warnings by an Eritrean priest.
On 10th October, a Save the Children manager showed the captain the precise coordinates of a boat that had left Libya, which could not be found
says Montanino.

In the Public Prosecutor’s office documents a telephone call between Gallo and Ricci explains the episode:
then I told them [the investigators] this story of these Eritreans, who said that a priest had sent the message.
And Gallo,
He got the message from the Eritrean priest and we went there and found the wooden barge (…) on board we had the Eritrean mediator.
Zerai (proposed as Nobel price candidate for peace) admitted he was advising various NGOs such as Doctors Without Borders, WatchTheMed and Sea Watch.

Gallo confirms to Panorama:
the Save the Children staff said the coordinates had arrived from an Eritrean priest in Switzerland.
Because don Zerai had been transferred from Rome to Fribourg, where a strong Eritrean community lives.

Gallo adds,
the impression was that the boat had been towed by traffickers in the middle of the sea, who then sent the coordinates to send the rescues.
Investigators of the Trapani inquiry inform that
after the holidays there will be news
on the ambiguous role of humanitarian ships.

Also an Italian source in Tripoli in the first line against the traffickers of human beings confirms:
Also in Libya it is known that many Eritrean migrants heading to Italy are in actual fact Ethiopians. They pretend to be Eritreans knowing that it is easy to obtain political asylum.
* Translated from Italian to English by Marilena Dolce

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by justo » 22 Sep 2019, 18:01

Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 16:05
Falso agamesh,
Btw, did you know there are still Eritrean refugees in Sudan from the '60s and '70s rotting in camps?
I know Awetash, that was my whole point, they chose not to go Libya and Sinai because they assessed the danger and said it was not worth it.
They were not in "danger" anymore, they didn't want to jump to another danger called Libya / Sinai

They are out of Eritrea so cannot be sent to Sawa, they stay put where they are because of the dangers of Libya and Sinai, what part of the argument is that you don't understand?

Lem me slow walk you like I would to my two year old son, and see if you can wrap your mind around it
During 9/11, those on the 97th floor were jumping through the window to flee the approaching fire
But those who already left the building and were moved to a hospital had no reason to jump from the 8th floor of the hospital

You "flee" from Sawa to Khartoum or Addis.
From Addis or Khartoum, it is a choice not a chase any more

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Awash » 22 Sep 2019, 18:08

Zombie,
Your so-called "self-reliant" agame tyrannical regime's tactics of delaying the process of repatriation and implementatio of coinciding with a convenient war with neighbors.
Background note on Eritrean refugees in Sudan

REPORT from UN High Commissioner for Refugees
Published on 29 Jan 2002

The exodus 
UNHCR has been caring for Eritrean refugees in Sudan longer than for any other large group of exiles, with the first camp for present-day Eritreans opened by the agency in eastern Sudan in 1967.

Refugees began arriving in Sudan in the mid-1960s, after Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie annexed the territory in 1962 and people fled the first hostilities in the war of independence. The conflict and periods of drought would drive progressively larger numbers of civilians into neighboring Sudan, with the exodus marked by years when the rate of flight increased dramatically. Between 1975 and 1978 alone, for example, over 200,000 Eritreans sought safety in Sudan. In the years 1980 to 1985, during renewed struggles and crop failures, the refugee population climbed over 400,000. The number of exiles peaked in the mid-1980s at almost 500,000.

The majority of Eritreans living in Sudan has been there since well before May 1993, when Eritrea declared independence, but thousands of additional refugees crossed into the country in May and June of 2000 as additional camps were set up for those who fled fresh fighting between Eritrea and Ethiopia. Of the estimated 95,000 new arrivals, most have since repatriated either spontaneously or with UNHCR help. Over 25,000 travelled home aboard UNHCR trucks between August and November, 2000, and a further 12,000 were assisted home in 2001.

Although several hundred thousand people went back after independence, there are still an estimated 142,000 Eritreans in refugee camps in Kassala and Gedaref States in Sudan. A large number of Eritreans also live in urban areas in Sudan, chiefly in Khartoum and towns in the east such as Kassala, Gedaref and Port Sudan.

More than two-thirds of the present caseload come from the western Eritrean zone of Gash-Barka. The next largest group comes from the Anseba area, further east.

Past repatriation efforts

Following Eritrean independence, UNHCR signed bilateral agreements in 1994 with the Governments of Eritrea and Sudan, laying the groundwork for the start of voluntary refugee repatriation. Convoys began moving in November of the same year in a pilot project for 25,000 volunteers. After this initial phase, however, organized repatriation was hindered for several years by political tensions in the region, even though many Eritreans were able to return on their own.

Four years after these first organized returns, a UNHCR survey found that around 90% of the refugees remaining in the camps wanted to repatriate. The refugees' desire was confirmed by a socio-economic study in 1999.

UNHCR, Sudan, and Eritrea took the first step towards re-starting the repatriation by signing a tripartite agreement in Geneva on April 7, 2000. The accord recognized the right of individuals to go home to areas of their choice, as well as the strictly voluntary nature of the return. It also included provisions for UNHCR to monitor the returns and the reintegration process. The April agreement spelled out the need for rehabilitation of refugee-affected areas in Sudan and for assistance to returnees.

In the weeks following the signing, UNHCR staff and representatives of the two governments distributed leaflets and held public sessions in the camps to inform refugees about the start and various components of the operation. Volunteers came forward and put their names down for repatriation. However, after a week in which 9,000 Eritreans signed up to go home, UNHCR was forced to halt the process and put the operation on hold when hostilities between Eritrea and Ethiopia erupted again into full-scale conflict in May, 2000.

The current operation

Building on the agreement and plans of 2000, UNHCR and the two governments met in Khartoum in late March 2001 to again prepare for the return of the remaining Eritrean refugees. The parties reaffirmed their commitment to voluntary repatriation, estimating that at least 160,000 refugees would take this opportunity to return home. To date, more than 37,000 refugees have taken this opportunity, choosing to settle mainly in the Gash Barka Region.

Last December, UNHCR asked donors for US$ 28.1 million for repatriation, reintegration, and care and maintenance activities (the latter for Somali and Sudanese refugees) during 2002.

Information campaign - The voluntary repatriation operation began with an information campaign in the camps. Thousands of leaflets printed in Tigrinya, Arabic and English that explain how refugees will be helped to return have been distributed to refugees. The pamphlets also give Eritreans information on procedures for return and the principles agreed between UNHCR and the two governments. In addition, two dozen members of the governmental Eritrean Relief and Refugee Commission (ERREC) and officials from the embassy in Khartoum visited camps to answer refugees' questions. After signing up for return, refugees will be de-registered by UNHCR Sudan, undergo a health screening, and get a two-month ration of food from the World Food Programme. The first convoy operated on May 12, 2001. As of 26 January 2002, more than 50 convoy movements have taken place.

The move home - Convoys carrying returnees and their belongings are escorted from camps in Sudan to the UNHCR reception center in Tesseney. Medical staff accompany each group. On arrival at the reception facilities, Eritreans are again registered and provided with documentation by the government. They receive information on the danger and presence of land mines, another health check, and are provided with meals. From Tesseney, returnees either go directly home or pass through transit centers in Hagaz and Barentu before reaching their final destinations.

Returning refugees are free to choose their final destinations within Eritrea.

Aid to returnees - UNHCR provides each returning family with a shelter structure, one blanket per person, two mosquito nets per family, a kerosene stove with kerosene and water barrel, agricultural tools, kitchen sets, soap and a carry-all bag. Families also receive a cash grant of up to US $200. Returnees to urban areas may choose additional cash in place of the shelter structure and tool sets.

UNHCR and its implementing partners are in the process of providing communities with assistance to help them absorb the returning population. These projects will concentrate on health care, education, agriculture and water/sanitation facilities.

Besides the initial two-month food package issued upon arrival by WFP, returnees are also eligible for a further ten months of food assistance once inside the country. Authorities provide land for returnees to build homes on and, depending on the area, up to two hectares of land to farm.

The assistance package will give returning Eritreans a better chance at a durable and successful homecoming after their exceptionally long exile. Other agencies and bilateral organizations are being called upon to aid the returnees through longer-term development and reconstruction projects.

Reintegration Strategy - As the refugees have begun to return, efforts are underway to engage medium to longer term development actors in including returnees in their plans. A key forum for the coordination and inclusion of all actors involved in relief and development work in the Gash Barka Region in particular is the Zonal Reintegration Committee, based in Barentu, the administrative capital of Gash Barka Zone, and chaired by the Regional Governor. Attended by the regional line ministry representatives, regional authorities, UNHCR, NGOs and other actors, the Zonal Reintegration Committee approves submitted projects based on assessments by a UNHCR technical team of specialists in the various sectors. These projects range from rehabilitation and reconstruction of health posts and digging of boreholes to life-skills training projects in the schools.

Cost of care and maintenance - The cost of the repatriation - and putting an end to one of Africa's longest-running refugee situations - should be compared to the expense of maintaining this large refugee population in Sudanese camps. UNHCR and WFP have had to spend many times the amount UNHCR is currently seeking for repatriation and reintegration assistance on camp-based care and maintenance programs during the last few years alone.
https://reliefweb.int/report/eritrea/ba ... gees-sudan

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Re: Lucky Eritrea

Post by Awash » 22 Sep 2019, 18:29

justo wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 18:01
Awash wrote:
22 Sep 2019, 16:05
Falso agamesh,
Btw, did you know there are still Eritrean refugees in Sudan from the '60s and '70s rotting in camps?
I know Awetash, that was my whole point, they chose not to go Libya and Sinai because they assessed the danger and said it was not worth it.
They were not in "danger" anymore, they didn't want to jump to another danger called Libya / Sinai

They are out of Eritrea so cannot be sent to Sawa, they stay put where they are because of the dangers of Libya and Sinai, what part of the argument is that you don't understand?

Lem me slow walk you like I would to my two year old son, and see if you can wrap your mind around it
During 9/11, those on the 97th floor were jumping through the window to flee the approaching fire
But those who already left the building and were moved to a hospital had no reason to jump from the 8th floor of the hospital

You "flee" from Sawa to Khartoum or Addis.
From Addis or Khartoum, it is a choice not a chase any more
You little sh!thead,
You think you're making sense. All i want to know is why you and your Agame asz didn't stay in your refugee huts but, instead, came to the land of freedom, democracy, milk & honey? You talk of Eritrean refugees as if you don't know the people, which proves you're an Agame wedi komarit like your savage tyrants. Mushmush.

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