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Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 31 Aug 2019, 09:40

How did Bekele Gerba became a politician in Ethiopia, a great country of the Mosaic, not a patchwork like some in the media claim sometimes, without due understanding of the reality behind the name?

Even Ato Getachew Reda (high ranking official of TPLF) came out and said in the following video that Ethiopia is a CONCEPT. This confused guy by the name of Bekele Gerba cornered himself by his own ignorance and forced to claim that he agrees more with NAMA, a narcissist and irredentist sectarian political entity in the country of the Mosaic, than with those which are in the camp of inclusive Ethiopian ajenda. What a disappointment.

I appreciate Ato Lidetu Ayalew in ignoring all the claims of Ato Bekele Gerba and concentrating himself in addressing the points raised by Ato Getachew Reda when he was given to answer.


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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by Ethoash » 31 Aug 2019, 10:11

DDT

if Bekele Gerba never failed to disappoint u, then dont vote for him, he is not looking for vote in Amhara region

Never miss opportunity to disappoint u is measuring yards to measure once eligibility for political power then እስክንድር እኔን ደግሞ never failed to disappoint me, so it that mean እስክንድር should be disqualified based of my feeling or let it be and let the vote vote for him .. the only thing i can do is not vote for him... this is a በትንሹ የዲሞክራስን ስርዓት መረዳት ያስፈልገናል ፤ ያለበለዝያማ ስንቧጨቅ እንኖራለን

if u dont like Trump, all u have to do is not vote for him and hope he is not elected otherwise what they hell can u do...

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 31 Aug 2019, 14:01

Ethoash wrote:
31 Aug 2019, 10:11
DDT

if Bekele Gerba never failed to disappoint u, then dont vote for him, he is not looking for vote in Amhara region

Never miss opportunity to disappoint u is measuring yards to measure once eligibility for political power then እስክንድር እኔን ደግሞ never failed to disappoint me, so it that mean እስክንድር should be disqualified based of my feeling or let it be and let the vote vote for him .. the only thing i can do is not vote for him... this is a በትንሹ የዲሞክራስን ስርዓት መረዳት ያስፈልገናል ፤ ያለበለዝያማ ስንቧጨቅ እንኖራለን

if u dont like Trump, all u have to do is not vote for him and hope he is not elected otherwise what they hell can u do...

No, it is not only about withholding my vote, which he will not get anyway, but also exposing his flimsy political shows in the name of my people, is also part of a democracic exercise on my part, as I understand it.

Someone who prefers the likes of the late Asamenaw Tsige over the likes of the Ato Indergachew Tsige will live to regret his actions very soon.

He must be an idiot.

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by Ethoash » 31 Aug 2019, 14:18

DDT,

I CALL u DDT A FITTING NAME

U SAID the country of the Mosaic, DO u understand the meaning Mosaic, it doesnt mean molding all those Mosaic in to one ... but that is what u implying u want everyone to think like u speak like u love like u hate like u.. etc etc...anyone who doesnt agree with u he is not an Ethiopian...

attacking oromo hero only help the people to come around him to join him to stand with him to protect him even if he is not good they will not hand him over the enemy... ለጠላት አሳልፈን አንስጠውም ብለው ይከቡታል ፤ they will protect him and safe him for any other day...

while the opposition wasting their time try to pull down Bekele Gerba support grow while the opposition camp suffer because their money, their time and energy wasted pulling down Bekele Gerba..... so go head make my day waste your time where ur vote is not needed because they dont run in Gojjam

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 31 Aug 2019, 14:59

Ethoash wrote:
31 Aug 2019, 14:18
DDT,

I CALL u DDT A FITTING NAME

U SAID the country of the Mosaic, DO u understand the meaning Mosaic, it doesnt mean molding all those Mosaic in to one ... but that is what u implying u want everyone to think like u speak like u love like u hate like u.. etc etc...anyone who doesnt agree with u he is not an Ethiopian...

attacking oromo hero only help the people to come around him to join him to stand with him to protect him even if he is not good they will not hand him over the enemy... ለጠላት አሳልፈን አንስጠውም ብለው ይከቡታል ፤ they will protect him and safe him for any other day...

while the opposition wasting their time try to pull down Bekele Gerba support grow while the opposition camp suffer because their money, their time and energy wasted pulling down Bekele Gerba..... so go head make my day waste your time where ur vote is not needed because they dont run in Gojjam
Adhere yourself to the truth and keep the truth, then the truth itself will set you free. You arab-lames are more of a liability than an asset to the cause you claim to stand for.

The meaning of mosaic is not something you can distantly grasp, it is a concept that has also molded us together to what we are today. It can be reflected subtly in the way I come to love the following music and identify myself with, even though I understand the language used in it nothing of it.



can you say why I instantly start to associate myself with this music, when I know that I have never spoken tigrigna and felt that the culture is far away from where I called home?

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by EPRDF » 31 Aug 2019, 16:01

DefendTheTruth wrote:
31 Aug 2019, 09:40
How did Bekele Gerba became a politician in Ethiopia, a great country of the Mosaic, not a patchwork like some in the media claim sometimes, without due understanding of the reality behind the name?

Even Ato Getachew Reda (high ranking official of TPLF) came out and said in the following video that Ethiopia is a CONCEPT. This confused guy by the name of Bekele Gerba cornered himself by his own ignorance and forced to claim that he agrees more with NAMA, a narcissist and irredentist sectarian political entity in the country of the Mosaic, than with those which are in the camp of inclusive Ethiopian ajenda. What a disappointment.

I appreciate Ato Lidetu Ayalew in ignoring all the claims of Ato Bekele Gerba and concentrating himself in addressing the points raised by Ato Getachew Reda when he was given to answer.
Obbo defend,

I have watched this video from beginning to the end actually few days ago. When I read here your harsh criticism against Obbo BeQele Garba, I re-watched Obbo BeQel's part again in case if I missed something bad in his speech for your being a rude critic, and I found none.

All these three panelist were giving answer for questions raised by the audience, which the session not included in this video, I think.
They all doing good in defending their positions and I heard no fault speech in any one of them including Obbo BeQele Garba.

Can you highlight on what wrong Obbo BeQele had said for you to bark on him in such a manner?
Just curious.

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 31 Aug 2019, 16:31

EPRDF wrote:
31 Aug 2019, 16:01
DefendTheTruth wrote:
31 Aug 2019, 09:40
How did Bekele Gerba became a politician in Ethiopia, a great country of the Mosaic, not a patchwork like some in the media claim sometimes, without due understanding of the reality behind the name?

Even Ato Getachew Reda (high ranking official of TPLF) came out and said in the following video that Ethiopia is a CONCEPT. This confused guy by the name of Bekele Gerba cornered himself by his own ignorance and forced to claim that he agrees more with NAMA, a narcissist and irredentist sectarian political entity in the country of the Mosaic, than with those which are in the camp of inclusive Ethiopian ajenda. What a disappointment.

I appreciate Ato Lidetu Ayalew in ignoring all the claims of Ato Bekele Gerba and concentrating himself in addressing the points raised by Ato Getachew Reda when he was given to answer.
Obbo defend,

I have watched this video from beginning to the end actually few days ago. When I read here your harsh criticism against Obbo BeQele Garba, I re-watched Obbo BeQel's part again in case if I missed something bad in his speech for your being a rude critic, and I found none.

All these three panelist were giving answer for questions raised by the audience, which the session not included in this video, I think.
They all doing good in defending their positions and I heard no fault speech in any one of them including Obbo BeQele Garba.

Can you highlight on what wrong Obbo BeQele had said for you to bark on him in such a manner?
Just curious.
The first person who should have been disappointed by this captive of his own ignorance must be obbo Bulcha Demeksa, who allegedely brought him into the party and was said to be instrumental in getting him a position before the guy understood about the essence of politics.

Obbo Bulcha said at one time we should "educate (re-indoctrinate) our young people to accept the fact that they are no less Ethiopians than they are Oromos". His disciple on the other hand run around and make random statements and come back to complain about the wounds (effect) of his own making on himself. The major part of his time he used to complain about one of the moderators on the stage, without even trying to addresse the lady with her name (he used several times "yesuwa" (her) media) to complain when he found himself at the recieving end of his own ignorance.

He was once invited to the congress of ODP (OPDO) and never tried to act as a stage man and address those who invited him to attend and share his views. Very awkward from someone acting as a leader of major political organisation in the country.

He will regret soon for his preference of the political views of the likes of the late Asamenaw Tsige instead of that of the likes of Ato Andergachew Tsige, perhaps one of the most respected intellectuals in the country right now.

"Yetemera yegdelegn" selu semta tewukaleh gin?

Could you say any example of an effective answer that he gave in support of the cause he claim to stand for?

I don't agree with the views of TPLF but ato Getachew Reda tried to be as articulate as he could be, even when sometimes contradicted himself, in my views.

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by EPRDF » 31 Aug 2019, 20:25

DefendTheTruth :
The first person who should have been disappointed by this captive of his own ignorance must be obbo Bulcha Demeksa, who allegedely brought him into the party and was said to be instrumental in getting him a position before the guy understood about the essence of politics.

Obbo Bulcha said at one time we should "educate (re-indoctrinate) our young people to accept the fact that they are no less Ethiopians than they are Oromos". His disciple on the other hand run around and make random statements and come back to complain about the wounds (effect) of his own making on himself. The major part of his time he used to complain about one of the moderators on the stage, without even trying to addresse the lady with her name (he used several times "yesuwa" (her) media) to complain when he found himself at the recieving end of his own ignorance.

He was once invited to the congress of ODP (OPDO) and never tried to act as a stage man and address those who invited him to attend and share his views. Very awkward from someone acting as a leader of major political organisation in the country.

He will regret soon for his preference of the political views of the likes of the late Asamenaw Tsige instead of that of the likes of Ato Andergachew Tsige, perhaps one of the most respected intellectuals in the country right now.
Thanks Obbo defend for the explanation,

First of all, his boss, Obbo bulcha nor his previous performance in public stage got no relevance over what we are discussing here now. I have many disagreements with Obbo Garba’s political outlook in the past and the present, but for now I’m just focused on his performance in this particular gather and your complaint as it is the core of the subject of our discussion.

You are bitter and you said that he is not addressed the unknown lady, editor of unknown media outlet by her name.

Ok So far, this is the only reason I see you given me to assassinate Obba Garba’s character.

He might not know her name, and he might not recall the name of her media organization she serves at that particular moment as well and there could be dozens of other reasons for that;
However, even though if he had sinister motive for him to behave unethical ( which is not clearly be seen as the case it is), you exaggerated the matter beyond limit to attack Obbo Garba.

You rather sound you have personal issues with this man because, from what I see, you lack adequate proof to substantiate your allegation against poor Obbo Garbaa.
Could you say any example of an effective answer that he gave in support of the cause he claim to stand for?
He persisted the election to be carried out according to the schedule as it set in the constitution, and he explained why.

He emphasized that he fights for the Oromo cause and multinational federalism. He pointed out how endanger the unity of the country if any attempt to crush those ethnic parties in the arena.

He told he and his party strongly believe in federalism based on linguistic criteria than geographical boundaries for it helps nation and nationalities to develop and maintain their language, culture and identity at large.

He stressed to achieve the aspiration of his people in peaceful struggle and at the ballot box. He never afraid and hesitate to express his mind and political objective in front of the crowd escorted by foreign diplomats and dignitaries. And I salute him for this !
Hat off Obbo BaQalaa Garbaa!

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 01 Sep 2019, 04:50

EPRDF wrote:
31 Aug 2019, 20:25
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Thanks Obbo defend for the explanation,

First of all, his boss, Obbo bulcha nor his previous performance in public stage got no relevance over what we are discussing here now. I have many disagreements with Obbo Garba’s political outlook in the past and the present, but for now I’m just focused on his performance in this particular gather and your complaint as it is the core of the subject of our discussion.

You are bitter and you said that he is not addressed the unknown lady, editor of unknown media outlet by her name.

Ok So far, this is the only reason I see you given me to assassinate Obba Garba’s character.

He might not know her name, and he might not recall the name of her media organization she serves at that particular moment as well and there could be dozens of other reasons for that;
However, even though if he had sinister motive for him to behave unethical ( which is not clearly be seen as the case it is), you exaggerated the matter beyond limit to attack Obbo Garba.

You rather sound you have personal issues with this man because, from what I see, you lack adequate proof to substantiate your allegation against poor Obbo Garbaa.
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Could you say any example of an effective answer that he gave in support of the cause he claim to stand for?
He persisted the election to be carried out according to the schedule as it set in the constitution, and he explained why.

He emphasized that he fights for the Oromo cause and multinational federalism. He pointed out how endanger the unity of the country if any attempt to crush those ethnic parties in the arena.

He told he and his party strongly believe in federalism based on linguistic criteria than geographical boundaries for it helps nation and nationalities to develop and maintain their language, culture and identity at large.

He stressed to achieve the aspiration of his people in peaceful struggle and at the ballot box. He never afraid and hesitate to express his mind and political objective in front of the crowd escorted by foreign diplomats and dignitaries. And I salute him for this !
Hat off Obbo BaQalaa Garbaa!
How came on the earth the political past of someone wouldn't have a relevance on the same actor's current show of political game?

Just because you people excel in the political actions of opportunism, not to use the political prostitution that fits better the characters behind?

For your information:

No one is against the use of one's language for the matters of own's affairs if that were also practicable. You and Ato Gerba keep repeating the same thing over and over again. We ask you the next question about how to make it practicable, you start muting. We have 80 different languages and as such should also grant the 80 different ethnic groups the privilege to use their respective language and administer their affairs all individually? UN has got about 200 member states and Ethiopia will then probably will have almost about 1/2 of that number as its member "federal states".

Ato Lidetu was asking about why wonder yourself now when we have about 170 different "political parties" when you know well you have actually and consciously engineered it when you divided the country into 80 or so something number of entities? If you (and your buddy Bekele Gerba) were that good, then you should have had an answer for this question. Bekele muted on that, while acting as someone who understands everything and the flaws come only from the other side.

The question you tried to avoid answering said: how would someone claim about self identity and at the same time praises the political programs of the likes of NAMA?

Well, the short answer is the usual, you claim today something and come back tomorrow to claim it has no relevance for what is going to happen tomorrow. That is how you cried in the past about TPLF policies and now instantly get married to the same entity with presumably same political outlook. That is what Bekel Gerba is doing, that is what Iszikiel Gebissa is doing, that is what you are saying here. And that is what we call opportunism in action.

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by Ethoash » 01 Sep 2019, 09:40

DDT.

i did not read what u and EPRDF talking about .. but i scan over and this interested me because u claim Bekele Gerba have no answer to it..
Ato Lidetu was asking about why wonder yourself now when we have about 170 different "political parties" when you know well you have actually and consciously engineered it when you divided the country into 80 or so something number of entities? If you (and your buddy Bekele Gerba) were that good, then you should have had an answer for this question. Bekele muted on that, while acting as someone who understands everything and the flaws come only from the other side.
Answer as political expert i will answer this question if u r ready for the answer .

here is how pure democracy work

170 political parties goes to election and one party win and the rest 169 parties will lose


አሜሪካኖች በዲሞክራሲ አይመሩም ፤ ምንም ዲሞክራሲ ድሞክራሲ ሁሉም ቢለው ደሞክራሲ በጣም አደገኛ ነገር ነው ። ማጆሪቲውን የበላይ የሚያረግ ነው።

ታድያ አሜሪካኖች የሚከተሉት እንደራሴ ሲስተም ነው።

ይህ አይነቱ ስርዓት የሚስራው እንደሚከተለው ይብራራል

በመጀመሪያ እንበል ፓርላማ አለን ። ይህን ፓርላማ በሁለት ክፍል የከፈላል ፤

በመጀመሪያ ዙር ምርጫ እናረግና አሽናፊዎቹን አንዱ ክፍል እናስገባቸዋለን

በሁለተኛው ዙር ግን ምርጫ ሳይሆን እንደራሴዎችን ልክን ሁለተኛው ክፍል እናስገባቸዋለን
ይህ ማለት ታድያ በመቶ ስባው ተቃዋሚ ፓርቲዎች አንድ እንደራሴዎች ይልካሉ ማለት ነው።

ለምሳሌ የፓርላማ መቀመጫ አምስት መቶ አርባ ስባት ቢሆን ። ይህን መቀመጫ ሁለት ቦታ ከፍለን ። ለአንዱ ግማሽ እስከ ሁለት መቶ መቀመጫ እንስጣለን ይህ ማለት መቶ ስባዎቹ ፓርቲሞች አንዳንድ መቀመጫ ያገኛሉ የለ ምርጫ ይህ ዝም ተብሎ የሚስጣቸው መቀመጫ ነው። የቀረውን ሀያ መቀመጫ ለተለያዩ ሰዎች መስጠት እንችላለን። ለዶክተሮች፤ ለመምሮች፤ ለእንጂነሮች፤ ለነጋዴዎች፤ ለሀይማኖት፤ እና ለሌላ ታዋቂ ስዎች መቀምጫውን መስጠት እንችላለን


ታድያ የቀረንን ፫፬፯ ሶስት መቶ አርባ ስባት መቀመጫም ደግሞ ዝም ብለን ለአንድ ፓርቲ አንስጥም በመቀምጫ የውስናል

ለምሳሌ ዘጠኝ ክልል አለን

ነገሩን ለማቅለል

አኦሮሞ ዘጠና አራት መቀመጫ እንስጥ
ለአማራ አምሳ መቀመጫ እንስጥ
ለቀሩት ለያንዳንዳቸው አያ ዘጠኝ መቀመጫ እንስጥ

ታድያ ይህ ማለት የፈለገውን ያህል አማራ ውይ ኦሮሞ ፓርቲ ቢኖረው የሕዝብ ብዛት ቢኖራቸው ከአምሳና ከዘጠና አራት በላይ መቀመጫ አይኖራቸውም።
ይህ ማለት ሁሉም ፓርቲ ሁሉም ክልል የወካላል ማለት ነው። ሌላው ቢቀር በእንደራሴዎች ይወከላል

ይህ እንግዲህ በቀላሉ ለማስረዳት ሞክሪያለሁ።

for farther reading pls see Representative democracy vs pure democracy

The question you tried to avoid answering said: how would someone claim about self identity and at the same time praises the political programs of the likes of NAMA?
i try to listen what the son of oromia said twice and failed to understand what he try to say and i did not get your kind of impressions... so i give up repeating it .. anyhow based on what u said i dont see any problem praising NAMA. if u have problem why not u tell me , just because he praised NAMA r u saying he endorsed their agenda/// to me this is beyond crazy....


That is how you cried in the past about TPLF policies and now instantly get married to the same entity with presumably same political outlook.
after what u said የኦሮሞ የበኩር ልጅ ስለ NAMA, i dont blame u, u hear wrong this time too.. OLF, and all oromo activist never opposed TPLF Constitution they were the one who wrote the Constitution at that time what they were saying was TPLF was not implementing THE Constitution fully .. TPLF CHEATING they r ruling the regional state with ተወካይ ... TPLF DID not give them full freedom what the Constitution give them in writing ..

so they want more TPLF Constitution not less at that time so if they support TPLF CONSTITUTION i dont see any wrong with it.. in fact that is what የኦሮሞ የበኩር ልጅ show me any better system then ethnic fed. system then i will take it .. at this time Ato Lidetu jump in and try to interrupt as if he had the answer but when his time come he did not answer or provided a better system then the ethnic fed. system .. በአፈ ጮሌነት ብዙ ነገር አግበስብሶ አለፈው እንጂ

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 02 Sep 2019, 04:51

EPRDF,

you failed to answer some of the questions I raised to you, unless you think you delegated it to Ethoash, a well known character to jump from topic to topic with his usual shallow jabbers as a sort of hypothesis.

It doesn't look like a good perspective for Bekele Gerba and his co. janjoo. I thought Jaanjoo is a muslim, why felt entitled to mess himself with the affairs of others?

Menchawun iwnet lemedereg new??? Woy yeskomutal woy yekomalu!


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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by Ethoash » 02 Sep 2019, 10:23

DefendTheTruth wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 04:51
EPRDF,

you failed to answer some of the questions I raised to you, unless you think you delegated it to Ethoash, a well known character to jump from topic to topic with his usual shallow jabbers as a sort of hypothesis.
DDT

Ato Lidetu Ayalew SHOULD put skin in the game and desolved his party and become one.. the other day he was crying someone took his name and joined ኢዜማ while telling us 1700000 parties to be one..

in fact EPRDF is the best example how to join parties then CUD style

EPFDF didnt absorbed TPLF, ADP, ODP and SEPDM instead it keep them as is and TPLF govern Golden ,ADP govern Amhara, ODP govern oromo and SEPDM govern South... this is the way to go if one party need .. but the question is would Ato Lidetu Ayalew willing to giveup power once the party system established or he want to rule again .. he ruled for last 27 years when is enough is enough . i know Ato Lidetu Ayalew is the best we have but he himself established term limit and give up power so why would he come back in what ground ... i think his good before date is up ... he must go..but as founding father we need him as state man we need him we always need his input but not to rule the party .. he must stay just like Obama cant run for 3rd term how gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood he is ... no one can run for 3rd term this help us limit "Trump" from running 3rd time ... i love Trump i am just giving example

in the end who is going to tel who to dissolve party and join one party. who is going to give up his party interest . the only way out is ልክ እንደእስፖርት በጥሎ ማለፍ መለየት አለበት አሽናፊው ፓርቲ ። ታድያ ለማሽነፍ የኢትዬዽያ ብሔራዊ ክለብ ከሁሉም ክልል የተውጣጡ ሊሆኑ ይችላሉ ለማሽነፍ እንዲረዳው ። ታድያ ፓርቲዎች ማንም ሳይላቸው ቅንጅት ይጀምራሉ በአሳብ የሚግባቡ። ይህ ማለት የትኛውም ፓርቲ መፍረስ የለበትም ስራው ነው የሚያወጣው።
ተሽናፊውና አሽናፊውን ፓርቲ በምርጫ አይደለም በተግባር ማን የተሻለ እንደሆነ በፍፁም መገመት ስለማይቻል ሁሉንም በእኩልነት መቀበል ይሻላል የተናቀ ፓርቲ ጥሩ ወጤት ሊያስገኝ ይቻላል።

በመጀመሪያ ክልሉን ያሽንፍና አመርቂ ወጤት ሲያስገኝ ወድ ብሔራዊ ይሽጋገራል። እንዲህ እያለ ነው ጥራት ያላቸውን ፓርቲዎች ከስር ኮትኩተን የምናሳደገው።

ለምሳሌ አንደ እግር ካስ ተጫዋች ተነስቶ ለብሔራዊ ልጫውት ከሚል ወይ በምርጫ ከሚመደብ። እራሱ አሳይቶ ቢመጣ ይመረጣል በመጀመሪያ ለስፈሩ ለቀበሌው ይጫውታል፤ ከዚያ ጥሩ ውጤት ሲያመጣ ወድ ክልሉ ይሻገራል ፤ ከዚያም ጥሩ ወጤት ሲያመጣ ወድ ብሄራዊ ይሻገራል

በኢትዬዽያ ወድ እምሳ ዩኒቨርስቲዎች አሉ ግን እያንዳዳቸውን ተዧዙረህ ብታያቸው የአሰተዳደሩን ብቃት በደንብ ታያለህ ። ታዲያ ይህ አስተዳደሮች ከአንደም ሁለት ፤ ከሁለትም ሶስት ዩኒቨርስቲዎች እንዲያስተዳደሩ ቢስጣቸው የትናየት እንደርስ ነበር ።




this is not five start hotel this is Wolkite University all this because of good management... so this management team can expand to other university by over taking the management based on performance this is how you reward excellence

teaching u is my burden ..

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 02 Sep 2019, 13:54

Ethoash,

I think I told you several times before that I don't dare to open and listen to a 1:30 hrs video. I just ckicked on and the guy (hopefully the reporter) was saying "inten yelal", I asked myself about how I should understand this report: inten yelal? lool

In the rest of the world such reporters are called "technology correspondents", who have got at least the basic Idea of what the subject matter of their reporting is and use the correct terms in their reporting and inorming their audiences, trained well in the field of IT-technology.


The Ethiopian "technology correspondent" is saying "inten belo inten yelal", loool, thanks to dedebit cadrewoch, like you, we ended up here, after you prescribed us "No need quality, we just want quantity". Unfortunate.

On the other hand the scene they showed us is not that something very much advanced scene of digital data processing (do you remember about the 4 Eras I told you before?). this is at the best at the level of digital transformation, but the rest of the world is at the level of Intelligent Enterprise (the machine would make some sort of logical decision by itself, the 4th Era of the evolutionary stage). Here it is about connecting two or more devices to enable data exchange between them.

Why is the lady still sitting there and make over-sight? Simply because the machine is not yet capable of making the necessary decision by itself: have you ever heard of a vendor-machine?

If it is about connecting machines I told you just a few days back about a more advanced and powerful application of data exchange between different physical machines: Tracking.

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by Ethoash » 02 Sep 2019, 14:48

no wonder i call u DDT,

I ARRANGE THE VIDEO SO THAT u can see the best part .. next to the IT, information here come the five star hotel kitchen .. just see up to that and talk to me it doesnt take ten minute of your time.. it come next to IT, why i want u to see the five star hotel kitchen that the unvieristy had is because kitchen is the most neglected part of university some of university እንጅራ በእንጨት ነው የሚጋግሩት። የውጥ ቤቷ ስራተና እኮ እዛው ትነግርሀለች በእንጀት ነበር የምንስራው ብላ። እንጅራ እንካን የኤሌትሪክ ምጣድ መግዛት እሲቲ ማንን ገደለ። ግን ዩኒቨርሲቲዎቻችን ይህንን አያረጉም ቢሊዬን ብር የአመት ባጅት የት እንደሚገባ አታውቅም ። በጭስ ማድቤት የአገር ተረካቢዎች ሲጋግሩ ምን እንደሚባል እኔ እንጃ ። ይህን የለወጠ የዩኒቨሪስቲ አስተዳደር ሳሳይህ ምንም ማመስገን አልቻልክም ለምን ብትል ለማየት እራስ ህን አላዘጋጅህምና እንዳያመልጥህ ይሄን ስኬታማ ጉዞ ተመልከትና ። እንዴት ፖለቲከኞቻችንም እንደምንመርጥ ለማወቅ ይረዳናል።

THE IT is good to check the bar code of the student .. the lady seat there to make sure they scan their bar code otherwise any body can just line up and get free food no need if to put computer scanner there if no body watching them.. of course they can autonomic door that open with card ...but no need we need people to have job

when u compere something u must compere it with 50 Ethiopian university no American university then only u get the right answer.. Wolkite University did everything right.. they try to be self sufficient by starting out small business on side they try to supply their own milk and other produce...

any how i am not even talking about Wolkite University .. i was talking about politician cut their teeth locally .. let us see them how they administrated their region and village then the will be ready for big time otherwise if they just jump on to national politic without proving themselves is asking for trouble ..

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by EPRDF » 02 Sep 2019, 16:13

Defefendthe truth wrote:

How came on the earth the political past of someone wouldn't have a relevance on the same actor's current show of political game?

Just because you people excel in the political actions of opportunism, not to use the political prostitution that fits better the characters behind?

The question you tried to avoid answering said: how would someone claim about self identity and at the same time praises the political programs of the likes of NAMA?

Well, the short answer is the usual, you claim today something and come back tomorrow to claim it has no relevance for what is going to happen tomorrow. That is how you cried in the past about TPLF policies and now instantly get married to the same entity with presumably same political outlook.

That is what Bekel Gerba is doing, that is what Iszikiel Gebissa is doing, that is what you are saying here. And that is what we call opportunism in action.
Thanks Obbo defend once again and sorry for the delay,

You completely took the discussion out of the context. I don’t know why it is so hard to grasp the center of my argument which I put it in a clear and simple language.

I am not here to defend Obbo Garbbaa’s or his political party’s agenda. Rather, to the contrary, I have a huge difference with Obbo Garbba’s political outlook and vision.

He is vice chair of OFC, a regional party that fight for the supremacy of Oromo national in the region called Oromia. On the other hand, I am one of many folks who advocate to dismantle entire ethnic based killil federation including Oromia. Right there without we go any further me and Obbo Garbaa are esat na cched, STOP!
So it is baseless, my friend, your attempt to categorize my stance into Obbo Garbba’s political agenda.Simple!

Having said that, although, Obbo Garbaa and I have a wide open differences, it does not mean he is my enemy, nor neither of us are more Ethiopian than one another. I also strongly believe we cannot erect the Ethiopia you yearn by walking over the neck of political parties like that of Obbo Garbaa’s, NAMA’s and ONLF’s. This is the point I agree with Obbo.

Obbo defend,

The only reason I inserted myself in this thread is because you are an Oromo and I frequently saw you attacking Oromo Politicians and activists, not criticizing and challenging their political goal but you are butchering their character and personality like you did on Obbo Garbaa here. I hope you will earn the applaud you expect by ER ethiopiawiyan members, Or that makes you a better and a true Ethiopiawi than the rest of us we the opportunists, and I hope you feel better in a way.

may lord give us a clean heart to defend the truth with honesty! amen
How did Bekele Gerba became a politician in Ethiopia, a great country of the Mosaic, not a patchwork like some in the media claim sometimes, without due understanding of the reality behind the name?

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 04 Sep 2019, 14:16

EPRDF wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 16:13


Thanks Obbo defend once again and sorry for the delay,

You completely took the discussion out of the context. I don’t know why it is so hard to grasp the center of my argument which I put it in a clear and simple language.

I am not here to defend Obbo Garbbaa’s or his political party’s agenda. Rather, to the contrary, I have a huge difference with Obbo Garbba’s political outlook and vision.

He is vice chair of OFC, a regional party that fight for the supremacy of Oromo national in the region called Oromia. On the other hand, I am one of many folks who advocate to dismantle entire ethnic based killil federation including Oromia. Right there without we go any further me and Obbo Garbaa are esat na cched, STOP!
So it is baseless, my friend, your attempt to categorize my stance into Obbo Garbba’s political agenda.Simple!

Having said that, although, Obbo Garbaa and I have a wide open differences, it does not mean he is my enemy, nor neither of us are more Ethiopian than one another. I also strongly believe we cannot erect the Ethiopia you yearn by walking over the neck of political parties like that of Obbo Garbaa’s, NAMA’s and ONLF’s. This is the point I agree with Obbo.

Obbo defend,

The only reason I inserted myself in this thread is because you are an Oromo and I frequently saw you attacking Oromo Politicians and activists, not criticizing and challenging their political goal but you are butchering their character and personality like you did on Obbo Garbaa here. I hope you will earn the applaud you expect by ER ethiopiawiyan members, Or that makes you a better and a true Ethiopiawi than the rest of us we the opportunists, and I hope you feel better in a way.

may lord give us a clean heart to defend the truth with honesty! amen
How did Bekele Gerba became a politician in Ethiopia, a great country of the Mosaic, not a patchwork like some in the media claim sometimes, without due understanding of the reality behind the name?
You could have spared yourself all these hatata, if you had said that you don't agree with their political views but stiil you don't approve when someone else scrutnize the same political views of your village's boys and spared yourself of losing a credibility of what ever you may had so far.

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by EPRDF » 04 Sep 2019, 16:52

DefendTheTruth wrote:
04 Sep 2019, 14:16
You could have spared yourself all these hatata, if you had said that you don't agree with their political views
Well, Obbo Defend, I don't know how many Birrile of Faarsho you consume before you start hit you keyboard, but I already told you in my second post on my first paragraph clearly. and here I quote It:
EPRDF wrote:
First of all, his boss, Obbo bulcha nor his previous performance in public stage got no relevance over what we are discussing here now. I have many disagreements with Obbo Garba’s political outlook in the past and the present, but for now I’m just focused on his performance in this particular gather and your complaint as it is the core of the subject of our discussion.
It seems you did not get it and I could not help you unless I come with my lengthy Hatata, You got it finally anyways Halelujah!

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Re: Never Disappoint to disappoint: The case of Bekele Gerba

Post by DefendTheTruth » 18 May 2022, 17:35

This guy says, yes I am an OLF. Our difference with them is just the tactics (means) we use to achieve the same end goal.




Bekele Gerba says, his party is also pursuing the same goal OLF (Oromo Liberation Front) is pursuing.


Is this guy really a politician?

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