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'Nuff said!

Post by Zmeselo » 19 Jun 2019, 15:57


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Post by Zmeselo » 19 Jun 2019, 16:03


The weyane, digs the graves of our martyrs.


Today, the Honorable PM of Ethiopia, sends us a message of solidarity on our Martyrs Day.

Times do change, indeed!

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Temt » 19 Jun 2019, 17:55

Brother Zmeselo,
The Honorable H.E. Dr. Abey Ahmed, PM of Ethiopia, unlike all the previous Ethiopian regimes, is honest down to earth individual. Guess what? "Honest down to earth" is a phrase usually given to our PIA. I believe that may be one of many reasons why these leaders get along just fine. Anyway, it takes a lot of goodwill and benevolence for the Prime Minister to state what he stated in his message to Eritrea. Superb, a job well done Mr. Prime Minister for you have gone 180 degrees from the regime you just replaced, a regime that shamelessly destroyed our Martyrs final resting place. Yes, that is what the Weyanes had done among the many evil things they have done against Eritrea. Bless your heart for being an honest peace partner with Eritrea and beyond. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Sadacha Macca » 19 Jun 2019, 18:08

Oromos and Eritreans never had historical problems or issues, to be honest. At the very least, Oromos morally in their hearts, supported eritrean's in their struggle. We wish Eritrea prosperity, longevity, unity, etc.

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Hawzen » 19 Jun 2019, 18:38

Sadacha Macca wrote:
19 Jun 2019, 18:08
Oromos and Eritreans never had historical problems or issues, to be honest. At the very least, Oromos morally in their hearts, supported eritrean's in their struggle. We wish Eritrea prosperity, longevity, unity, etc.
It is mutual, brother. If you had asked any Eritrean in the streets of Asmara or diaspora before, I bet they would not have anything negative to say about the people of Oromo in the history of the two peoples. If you look back the history, we just happen to be victims of successive regimes for too long. Now that Dr. Abby is the Prime Minister of Ethiopia followed by a lot of good things because of him, the people of Eritrea have a lot of great things to say about the Honorable Prime Minister Dr. Abby and the people of Oromo.

In general, the ordinary people of Eritrea and Ethiopia have always been victims of successive regimes and few elites. The people of Eritrea and Ethiopia always have respect to each other and nothing will change that. We are brothers and sisters with a lot of things in common.

Please don't get me started about the coward TPLF goons, low IQ dedebit cadres and TPLF sympathizers agames... They are just the worst enemy of the people of Eritrea.

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Awash » 19 Jun 2019, 18:49

Zombies,
There are credible reports that say ugum shabo tore up the graves to inflame the population and use as propaganda. When are you going to stop blaming everybody under the sun?
Zmeselo wrote:
19 Jun 2019, 16:03

The weyane, digs the graves of our martyrs.


Today, the Honorable PM of Ethiopia, sends us a message of solidarity on our Martyrs Day.

Times do change, indeed!

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Hawzen » 19 Jun 2019, 19:33

Awash wrote:
19 Jun 2019, 18:49
Zombies,
There are credible reports .....

Brother Adwusha,

What is the source of the credible reports?? Radio Woyane ?? Woyanay Digital Warriors? or what ???

Agames will pay for every single crimes you have committed and PIA is the right person to do that and more... The lion of Nakfa had declared GAME OVER. Then a couple months later exactly that happened.. Now, PIA is about to send you to grave and we can't wait to witness that....

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Zmeselo » 19 Jun 2019, 19:36

Saleh Younis, before he got bought:
Tesenei: An Exhibit of Ethiopian Treachery

Saleh AA Younis

http://www.dehai.org/conflict/home.htm?commentaries.htm

June 21, 2000


WARNING: The following may provoke Ethiopia to re-occupy Tessenei.

On May 30, 2000, the Ethiopian Foreign Ministry told us that
After Successfully completing their mission, Ethiopian Defense Forces Withdraw from Western Eritrea.
Why? Because
Ethiopia has no territorial claims over Eritrea. The withdrawal of the Ethiopian defense forces from western Eritrea is proof of that.
Actually, what the Ethiopian Ministry meant to say was that the (valiant, heroic, stupendous, fill in your favorite hyperbole) Ethiopian Army did was withdraw from Southwestern Eritrea (Barentu), to Western Eritrea (Tesenei) on its way to Northwest Ethiopia (Humera). This is either because the road from Tesenei to Humera is far more accommodating than the path from Barentu to Humera or the road via Tesenei provides the "highly disciplined" Ethiopian army with greater opportunities for looting and vandalism. In either case, the gallant Ethiopian army had completed its mission and had withdrawn. All the (demolished, routed, annihilated, decimated) Eritrean Defense Forces had to do was stand by the road and wave goodbye to the Ethiopian Army cheerfully.

On June 6 and June 7, 2000, the annoying Eritrean Defense Force engaged the valiant Ethiopian Defense Force in the vicinity of Tesenei. What? No, I cannot tell you the outcome of this obviously lopsided war which "had clearly been a big battle." You have to read it for yourself what CNN, Reuters and the BBC said about that. If I report it, it will be seen as "provocation" by the trigger-happy folks in Mekele.

Whatever was reported was not looked on favorably by the Renaissance Leader in Addis Ababa. After Eritrea had accepted the Cessation of Hostilities proposal from the OAU, Ethiopia rolled in its tanks once again to Tessenei on June 14, 2000. Why? Because the peace-process was not going well and Eritrea responds to the stick, said the Deporter-in-Chief. And, the decimated Eritrean Defense Force needed to be decimated some more. And, PS, there was more comprehensive looting and vandalism to be done.

Five days later, on June 19, the gallant Ethiopian Defense Forces, having accomplished its "mission" withdrew from Tesenei. Given the double-speak nature of the Ethiopian Foreign Ministry, don't be surprised if Ethiopia withdrew from Tesenei to positions 10 miles north and deeper into Eritrean territory. As for the vandalism and looting if, as we are told by the experts, the Ethiopian army is "highly disciplined" then the only logical conclusion is that the crime perpetrated was not the work of a rogue lieutenant but planned and orchestrated by the organized shiftas running the Abyssinian Empire.

These are our partners for peace. These are the people that the critics tell us we could have made a deal with in June 1998 and avoided all this carnage. These are the people we are negotiating with. These are the people that will honor agreements; these are the people, we are told, that will accept decisions of the OAU and the UN as binding.

Eritrea, unfortunately, has been put in a position where it is negotiating from a clearly inferior position. But this is not entirely due to the military balance of power. After all the balance of power was clearly in our favor in 1998 and for most of 1999. It has entirely to do with amateurs at the State Department and the National Security Agency who stalled the peace process for months while Ethiopia re-armed and re-grouped and it has to do with corrupt bureaucrats who funded its war machinery. We have accepted terms that include placement of looters in our territories for a "temporary" period.

Don't Learn The Wrong Lessons

It is said that a mad scientist was running an experiment with a frog. The scientist chopped off one of the hind legs of the frog and ordered, "jump!" The frog limped. Then the other hind leg was chopped off, and the scientist ordered, "jump!" The frog moved even more slowly. The process was repeated until the frog had no legs left. When the scientist ordered "jump!" the frog, of course, did not move. Wrote the scientist on his clipboard:
curious phenomenon. When you cut off the legs of frogs, they turn deaf.
We are the neighbors of Ethiopia, historically the home of expansionist empire builders. The lesson for us is to have a robust, well-trained professional army and a detached and disengaged foreign policy that is entirely apathetic to the soap opera in the South. In the meantime, let's concentrate on the Eritrean Development Foundation and feed and shelter our displaced population.

Saleh

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Zmeselo » 19 Jun 2019, 19:49

How Bloody Do Your Hands Have To Be Before You Wash Them Off?

Saleh AA Younis

http://www.dehai.org/conflict/home.htm?commentaries.htm

June 6, 2000


The First Address of Ethiopia's Foreign Minister: May 19, 1998
the 12th of May, 1998, for reasons that [are] known only to the Eritrean authorities, decisions were made in Asmara to invade Ethiopian territory by deploying three brigades assisted by tanks.
The Foreign Minister took you for a ride and, two years later, you haven't disembarked from the wagon of lies and deception.

The Foreign Minister knew that the reasons for the incidents of May 12, 1998 were known not only to the Eritrean authorities but to the Ethiopian authorities. That the conflict was provoked by a series of Ethiopian acts including the incidents of May 6, 1998 (Badme) when Eritrean officers were shot dead; the unilateral moving of border markers by Ethiopian authorities and the deportation of Eritrean farmers that went on since 1995; the incidents of July 1997 (Adi Murug) when Ethiopia, using "hot pursuit of terrorists" as a pretext occupied Eritrean territory and, despite two letters of protest from the Eritrean president, would not withdraw its troops; the issuing of a map by the State of Tigray prepared for "administrative and fiscal purposes" but was, for all intents and purposes, a political map that contradicts internationally recognized maps of Eritrea and Ethiopia.

You dismissed all the provocations as irrelevant because in none of the above incidents did Ethiopia use tanks. Ethiopians have a point, you said, aggression must be reversed.

Between May 19, 1998 and June 3, 1998, the Ethiopian Government launched a series of military offensives to regain Badme. In the process, it lost Zalambesa and was checked at Bada and Burie. Meanwhile, you offered and took bets that Assab would fall within days.
Ethiopia needs a port: why should a population of 60 million have no port when a population of 3 million has two?
asked the Ethiopian media. Good question, you said.

When, on June 4 and June 5, 1998, Ethiopia, escalated the conflict and bombed Asmara Airport and hit a Zambian cargo plane, and warned the world to steer clear of Eritrean airpspace or risk death and injury, your only outrage was that Ethiopia did not give Western nations sufficient notice to evacuate their citizens. Serves the arrogant Eritreans right, you said.

When, beginning June 13, 1998, Ethiopia started deporting tens of thousands of Ethiopians of Eritrean ancestry-your colleagues at the UN and the OAU, your Eritrean neighbors, the children who played with your children-you said nothing. Worse, when the UN Commissioner for Human Rights highlighted Ethiopia's violation of human rights, you criticized her. When "Human Rights Watch" and "Amnesty International" wrote scathing reports on Ethiopia's inhumane policy of deportation, you were nowhere to be found. Probably spies and infiltirators endangering Ethiopian security, you rationalized.

The Second Address by the Ethiopian Foreign Minister: November 11, 1998

On November 11, 1998, Ethiopia's Foreign Minister told you that Ethiopia has accepted the OAU Framework Agreement with the understanding that the reference to
Badme and its environs is meant to be understood as the withdrawal of Eritrean troops from all occupied Ethiopian territory and their return to positions held before May 6, 1998
and that
the return of the Ethiopian Civilian Administration includes the restoration of the Administration with its law enforcement organs minus regular troops
and that Ethiopia was prepared to resolve the dispute
on the basis of the pertinent Colonial Treaties and applicable international law.
What you know now or should know: the OAU was silent on the definition of "Badme Town and its environs." That Ethiopia rejected the Technical Arrangements because, despite its claim that it agrees to having "law enforcement organs minus regular troops" once civilian administration was restored, it saw any limits on its capacity to enforce law as it saw fit as a violation of its sovereignty. You now know, or should know, that Ethiopia is not committed to returning to positions held before May 6, 1998. You now know, or should know, that Ethiopia is NOT prepared to resolve the dispute "on the basis of pertinent Colonial Treaties and applicable international law."

In December 1998 when, according to the Boston Globe (5/28/00), Ethiopia asked donors (WFP, EU, USAID and ICRC) to provide assistance based not on actually displaced Ethiopians but on number of people that will be potentially displaced if Ethiopia goes on with its war policy, and that it wanted to be the sole distributor of the AID, all donores except for the ICRC said yes to this request even as they knew that the AID funds could be diverted.

Why? You rationalized it by saying that the leaders of Ethiopia are the "good guys" who should be supported--even when declaring war. Shortly thereafter, the Ethiopian Foreign Minister stated: "I don't see how war can be interrupted."

When, on February 6, 1999, Ethiopia broke the air raid moratorium brokered by the United States using transparently false statements-that Adi Grat had been bombed. None of you (with the except of the German mission) bothered to check, or offered to check, whether Ethiopia's violation of the moratorium was for valid or invalid reasons.

When, in late February 1999, Ethiopia forced Eritrea out of Badme, you lined up to congratulate the Ethiopian Foreign Minister and the Prime Minister. Champagne bottles everywhere.

When, in July 1999, Ethiopia accepted the OAU modalities-but would not commit to cessation of hostilities or cease-fire because "Aggression must not be rewarded", you said: sounds reasonable to me.

When, between August 1999 - April 2000, Ethiopia went on a massive war toy-shopping spree as the drought in Southeast Ethiopia approached famine proportions; when it told the OAU it hadn't rejected the Technical Arrangements even as it proposed changes to gut the OAU proposal and render it toothless; when it demanded AID and set pre-conditions on how the help would be distributed; when it opened a new war front in the West: in Europe, against the German Government; in North America, against Congressman Benjamin Gilman; when, belligerent and mad as hell, it said that its war preparations are complete and it would launch the offensive any day now, you said nothing other than counting to doomsday.

May 2000 has come and gone. Ethiopia occupies large areas of uncontested Eritrean territories in the West and in the Center. The Ethiopian Government intimates that its goal not only includes restoring May 6, 1998 status quo ante but also "decimating" the Eritrean Defense Forces. And, wink, wink, the overthrow of the Eritrean Government is not bad, either. It bombs the Hrgigo Power Plant (a civilian target), it loots Barentu (the capital of Gash-Setit province) and it bombs the Assab water reservoir. It has torched villages. When it is done with its mayhem that results in the displacement of nearly one-third of the Eritrean population, it says that it is no longer interested just in the restoration of status-quo-ante, but that it would like a buffer zone inside Eritrea-just like the one Israel had--to protect itself from Eritrea's "decimated" army. A week after it claimed to have withdrawn its troops from Western Eritrea, we are told that Ethiopian armed forces are engaged in battles deep inside Western Eritrea and on two other fronts in the Center and the East. Ethiopia also intimates that it may not settle for demarcating the border on the basis of colonial treaties and international law but that other factors-such as facts on the ground-have to be considered as well.

What do you have to say now? Could you entertain the thought, just for a nanosecond, that the Ethiopian Government is not made up of "good guys"? That the Ethiopian Government never wanted to resolve the issue peacefully because it would mean permanent loss of the territories and an Eritrea with an "over-sized" military and with "Shaabia" still in charge? Have you ever heard of a border conflict where the alleged victim refuses to give the totality of his claims? Have you ever heard of a border conflict where the alleged victim cannot produce a map to make his case? Have you ever heard of a border dispute where the alleged victim drags his feet on the demarcation of the border?

How bloody do your hands have to be before you wash them off?

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Zmeselo » 19 Jun 2019, 19:55

Defeat Operation JackAss

Saleh AA Younis

http://www.dehai.org/conflict/home.htm?commentaries.htm

May 29, 2000

Selamat Dehai:


There are two kinds of people: the thermostat and thermometer.

The thermostat says: "I think it is going to be hot; I better prepare to cool things down." Or "It looks like it is going to be cold; I better prepare to warm things up."

The thermometer merely reacts: "It is HOT! It is COLD! Oh, boy, it's hot! It is cold! I don't think it's ever been this hot" etc.

For the last two years, some Eritreans have been saying that the Ethiopian Government is hell-bent on the destruction of Eritrea. That we should do all we can to prepare for the moment. That this conflict has nothing to do with borders; that Ethiopia doesn't like our government; it does not like that we won't act our size and won't just have lightly armed police and ill-trained militia; that it is grooming opposition to "democratize" Eritrea; that it wants weak neighbors (like Djibouti and Somalia) so that it can control the neighborhood. That in preparation for when Ethiopia unleashes its war, we should try to lobby the US, the EU, the UN, to be if not sympathetic at least carry out its duties. But, most of all, we should support the Eritrean Defense Force so it will at least have a fighting chance.

Then there have been those who have been surprised by the ferocity of the Ethiopian Government. If only we had accepted this treaty, if only we had accepted the other. If only we had reached out to this group, if only we had done the other. The are good people: they rely on their common sense and have concluded that it is not in Ethiopia's interest to wage war and it is doing so only because we did this, that or the other.

There is no peace treaty, none whatsoever that Ethiopia will accept and implement because its goals are nothing less than "decimating" your brothers and your sisters and your cousins. The goal post is always higher and higher. It is not enough that Eritrea has to commit to withdraw, it must withdraw; it is not enough that Eritrea withdraws but Ethiopia--and Ethiopia alone--must verify that Eritrea has withdrawn. It is not enough that it do so, it must go further and proclaim that the territory is sovereign Ethiopia. Eritrea must be humiliated, humbled, made to beg for its survival. It must change its government. It must never "pose a threat" to Ethiopia--which means it must disarm unilaterally and completely.

People ask me the million dollar question: if we are going to withdraw, why didn't we do it almost a year ago when the world was "begging" us to? Where did you get that information? From the Ethiopian Foreign Ministry? You are going to believe the same people that told you that four Eritrean divisions comprise of 515 people? Didn't they tell you that they _______ (fill in the blank: decimated, destroyed, annihiliated, decimated) four divisions around Shambko and then produced 15 dead and 500 POWs)? The truth is this: nobody, until May 25, 2000, asked us to withdraw without first securing cessation of hostitlities. The world--the OAU and the US, that is--gave us both a proposal that began with a cessation of hostilities and ended with demarcation. Ethiopia--in keeping with its declaration of war of May 13, 1998--wanted Eritrea to withdraw "unconditionally." Ethiopia told the world that it accepted the peace proposals and then went about ignoring the call for cessation of hostilities knowing that the world would come around and support or at least be silent when it waged war.

So you are "humiliated"? What would you want the Eritrean Government to do so that you are not humiliated? Defend Barentu for weeks and weeks so that the BBC can report, "the Eritreans put up a spirited defense"? Would that make us feel better? So the Eritrean Generals should pursue a strategy that makes us feel better while our brothers and sisters are being "decimated"? Or should they minimize our casualties and inflict as much damage on the enemy as possible?

The Deporter-in-chief now running the Ethiopian Empire referred to our country as "bloody" (after he bloodied it) in his "wild monologue" directed to the missions in Addis is scheduled to have a Gulf War type press conference with his Defense Minister. After he brags about all his real and imagined victories, he will either declare victory and go home or he will officially tell the world that the campaign to decimate my and your brothers is official.

When President Reagan was shot, he asked his attending physian, jokingly, "I hope you are a Republican." The doctor said, "Mr. President, today, we are all Republicans." Until the threat of the bloodthirsty gang from the South is gone, we should all pledge to be Shabia. The Eritrea Government has many flaws but when the fate of the nation hangs on the balance, are there any other group of people who are better qualified, more experienced to defend our land? Otherwise, we will be a naton of Dagmawis--a man who, barely two weeks ago, was calling for the resignation of Meles Zenawi--but now cannot contain his glee at the destruction of a young nation.

All our "I am worried, I can't sleep, I am depressed" is nothing more than fuel for the organized Shiftas from the South so let's contain ourselves and defend our nation. Let's convert "Operation JackAss" into "Operation Quagmire."

Saleh

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Re: 'Nuff said!

Post by Zmeselo » 19 Jun 2019, 20:45

Asmara, in this hallowed day:














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Post by Awash » 19 Jun 2019, 22:07

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