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Re: ጉራጌ ለ60 አመታት በጎሳ ቀውስ ሳይታለል፣ በዘር ቅዠት ሳይባንን ኢትዮጵያን አንድ እያረገ ያለ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሕዝብ !!

Post by Selam/ » 12 Jun 2019, 17:43

Woyane rat - qqqqqqqqq you’re making me cry.

Mr Einstein, you have a great gift of copying and pasting from your midnight kin. Don’t dare call the name of the Creator in your filthy hateful mouth.

Clean your mouth with the grass first before you attempt to grind and mix it with caustic soda. It will cut your infantile high school drop out arse. KIFU!
Ethoash wrote:
12 Jun 2019, 14:06
Selam,

ገና አስለቅስ ሀለው ። በግድ እወቅትን አግት ሀለሁ። ትምህርቴ ደግሞ ከት፨ቤት አይገኝም ይህ የእግዛብሔር ተስጥቶ ነው። አንድ ለመንገድ ልጨምርልህ ከዝያ በፊት ግን የካባ ወረቀት እንዴት እንደሜመረት ለማየት ጉግል አርግ መርጃን ስሜን ታገኛለህ።

አሁን ደግሞ ሌላ እስገራሚ ግኝቴ። መቼም ጋሎች ላይ እንቁላል ገዝተህ ታውቃለህ ታድያ ጋሎቹ እንቁላላቸውን የሚይዙበት በጭድ ሳር ነው። ይህ ጭድ ሳር በጣም ለስላሳ ከመሆኑ በላይ እንቁላሎቹን እንዳይስባበሩ ይረዳል ታድያ ይህንን ጭድ ለምንድነው ለፓኬጂን የማንትጠቅምበት ብዬ አስብኩ። ችግሩ ዝም ብለህ ጭዱን ኮምፒተር ለማሽግ ብትጠቀምበት ጭዱ ኮንፒተር ውስጥ ገብቶ ከአገልጎሎት ውጭ ያረገዋል ታድያ ምን ታርጋለህ መስለህ ጭዱን ፕላስቲክ ውስጥ ትጨምርና ኮምፒተሩን ታሽገዋለህ በካርቶን ይህ ማለት በኦርጋኒክ ፓኬጂንግ አሽግህው ማለት ነው ችግር ተፈታ ።። even this is nothing more idea is coming to me like river of idea


for horororo
ይህ ደግሞ አሁን የመጣልኝ ሐሳብ ነው ። ጉራጌዎች የጀበና ቡና ይወዳሉ ፣ ታድያ ከኢትዬዽያ ለማስመጣት ብዙ ግዜ ይስባብርብናል ታድያ ዘዴው በጣም ቀላል ነው። የፓኬጂን ካርቶን ማዘጋጀትና በውስጡ ጭድ መሙላት ከዝያ ጅብናውን አስገብቶ ካርቶንን በድንብ መዝጋት በቴፕ። test ለማረግ ጀበናውን ካርቶኑ ውስጥ እንዳለ ታለው ፣ ወርውረው አይስበርም። ክብደት ይበዛብኛል ካልክ በልብስ ሽፍነህ ካርቶኑ ውስጥ ማረግም ትችላለህ ካርቶኑ በጀበናው ልክ ከሆን አጥብቆ ይይዘዋል ምንም አይሆንም። ልክ እንደ ውጭ እንደሚመጡ እቃዎች የኛም እንደዛው መታሽግ አለባቸው

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Re: ጉራጌ ለ60 አመታት በጎሳ ቀውስ ሳይታለል፣ በዘር ቅዠት ሳይባንን ኢትዮጵያን አንድ እያረገ ያለ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሕዝብ !!

Post by Horus » 12 Jun 2019, 21:36

ኢቶአሽ፤

ይህን ሰሞን ስለጉራጌ ስልጣኔ በጣም ብዙ እያልክ ነው ። በጉራጌ የመፍጠር፣ የመሸከት፣ የማንቃት የማመንጨት ችሎታ ያመንክ ይመስላል ። በመሰረቱ ይህ ጥሩ ባህሪ ነው፤ ነገር ግን ለብቻህ አትነጋገር፣ አንተ እና አንተ ሆናችሁ ስትመሰጋገኑ ብልህነት ሳይሆን ነሆለልነትህን ያሳያልና። ደሞ ልሂቅ ተማሪዎች የፈለስፉብትን ቪዲዮ መጀመሪያ አይተህ ተች ለጊዜህ ዋጋ ካለህ ማለቴ ነው። ጉራጌ ከማንም ጥሩ ሃሳብ ጋገኘ እሰዬ ብሎ ያየዋል።

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Re: ጉራጌ ለ60 አመታት በጎሳ ቀውስ ሳይታለል፣ በዘር ቅዠት ሳይባንን ኢትዮጵያን አንድ እያረገ ያለ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሕዝብ !!

Post by Horus » 13 Jun 2019, 00:41

ከዚህ በታችህ ያለው የመልካም ወይም የጠቃሚ ካልቸር መምረጫ ዘዴ ደግሜ ደጋግሜ የምለጥፈው አውቄ ነው ። አንደኛ፣ በኢትዮጵያ ይህ ነው የሚባል የካልቸር እውቀት ወይም ምርምር የለም ። ካልቸር እየተባለ የብዙ ሕዝብ ጊዜና ሃብት የሚባክንበት ባህላዊ ልማድ ያውም ከዘርነት ጋር ታምሶ የሚሰራጭ ውዥንበር ነው። ካልቸር ግን በትክክል ለሚያቁት ዝም ብሎ ልማድ ወዘተ ሳይሆን ያንድ ሕዝብ ክህሎት፣ ችሎታ፣ የእውቀት ክምችት ማለት ነው። ካልቸር ኮምፒተንስ ነው ።

የሚቀጥሉትን 4 ምርሆችን ደጋግማሁ እዩጥ አስቡበት .

መልካም ካልቸር እንዴ ዪመረጣል?

አጠቃለን ካልቸር የምንለው ጽንሰ ነገር ባልነቁ ሕዝቦች ዘንድ በዘፈቀደ ቢያድግም በነቁት ዘንድ ቢያንስ 4 መሰረታዊ ነገሮች ማሙዋላት አለበት ፤ ማለትም አንድ መልካም ካልቸር የሚከተሉት 4 ተግባራት አሉት።

አንድ፣
አንድ መልካም ካልቸር የካልቸሩ ተካፋይ የሆኑትን ሰዎች ተደሳች ሕዝብ ማድረግ አለበት ። ሃሴተኛ፣ ደስተኛ ማህበረ ሰብን የማይፈጥር ካልቸር መልካም ተብሎ በሕዝቡ መታመን የለበትም። የደስታ አላማ የመጀመሪያ የጥሩ ካልቸር መለከያ ናው ።

ሁለት፣
አንድ መልካም ካልቸር በግድ የመልካም ስነምግባር ወግ ተልዕኮን ማሟልት አለበት። ኤቲክስ፣ ኢቶስ፣ ወግ ስንል በውስጡ የሚያዝለው ይዘት ስነምግባር ወይም የባህርይ መመሪያ ሰርዓታትን ነው ።

ሶስት፣
አንድ መልካም ካልቸር በግድ የመልካም ስነስኬት ተልዕኮን ማሟላት አለበት ። እነዚህ እንደ ኪነጥበብ፣ ብልህነት፣ ብልሃት፣ ሽካ፣ ሙያ፣ ፕሩደንስ፣ ፕራግማ፣ ዘዴ፣ ባልትና የመሳሰሉን ያጠቅልላል ። ብልህነት ወይም ዊዝደም ማለት ነገና ወደፊት ለሚሆኑት ነገሮች ጥንቃቄ ማድረግ ማለት ነው። ይህን የማያሟላ ካልቸር በተከታዮቹ ቅቡል መሆን የለበትም።

አራት፣
አንድ መልካም ካልቸር በግድ የመልካም ስነጥበብ እና ዉበት ተልዕኮን ማሟላት አለበት ። ዉበት ማለት አንድ ነገር ኦርደር፣ ሃርሞኒ፣ ባላንስ፣ ኤለጋንስ እና ፕሮፖርሽን እንዳለው መግለጽ ነው። ይህም ሰዕል፣ ጠረባ፣ ቀረጻ፣ ሙዚቃ፣ ስነጽሁፍ፣ ቲያትር፣ ሲኒማ፣ አርኪቴክቸር የመሳሰሉቲን ያካትታል።

በአንድ ቃል አንድ ተፈላጊ መልካም ካልቸር በግድ የስነሃሴት፣ የስነምግባር፣ የስነስኬት እና የስነዉበት መመሪያ ያስፈልገዋል።

በአ፤ May 25, 2019

Ethoash
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Re: ጉራጌ ለ60 አመታት በጎሳ ቀውስ ሳይታለል፣ በዘር ቅዠት ሳይባንን ኢትዮጵያን አንድ እያረገ ያለ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሕዝብ !!

Post by Ethoash » 13 Jun 2019, 14:53

Horus wrote:
12 Jun 2019, 11:31

HOOOOROR

i saw the video that is what i was talking dont waste their talent by making them ሊስትሮ . everything i said this video proof me right...
number one those students invention can be sold and support the school to grow and become world class school.. the community also grow with the school the point is the school can be self supporting without asking the student , student fee...

if we find one ጉራጌ talented singer all we have to do is send him to Addis Ababa and find him producer who can produce is video in short for A to Z and make this talented singer rich.. but we dont have investor who can take care of those talented students ...

all u need is one product to make it big the power divider was the best.. any most of the invention was out of my brain power even to understood it so all i am saying is it should be converted to business .. on going bases .. this culture must be developed .. if one investors come and partner with the school and start developing the student invention he must have 20 years contract so that the early investors should be benefited for trusting on the students ..

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Re: ጉራጌ ለ60 አመታት በጎሳ ቀውስ ሳይታለል፣ በዘር ቅዠት ሳይባንን ኢትዮጵያን አንድ እያረገ ያለ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሕዝብ !!

Post by Horus » 13 Jun 2019, 21:32

ኢቶአሽ፣

እንደ ገና ላሳሲብህ ከላይ ለቀልድ የለጥፍኩት ቪዶም ቢሆን አላየከውም ። ያ ቪዲዮ እኮ ሊስትሮነት በቃ አሁን እንትረፕረንወር ነን ነውኮ የሚለው። ሲማ ወይ አንበህ ወይ አይተህ ተናገር። በሌ ነገር ላይ ለምን ወርቅ ጊዜ ታባክንብኛለህ ፤ ሲማው ቀልዱን !!



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Post by sun » 14 Jun 2019, 19:06

Horus wrote:
04 Jun 2019, 21:32
ኢቶአስ

ጥያቄህን ሰላም መልሶልሃል በቃ !
You are afraid to answer crystal clear questions because you knew if you answer your shameful serial lies will come to the public under the bright Sun light. :mrgreen:

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Re: ጉራጌ ለ60 አመታት በጎሳ ቀውስ ሳይታለል፣ በዘር ቅዠት ሳይባንን ኢትዮጵያን አንድ እያረገ ያለ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሕዝብ !!

Post by Horus » 14 Jun 2019, 19:53

sun,

ሆረስኮ ባንድ መሃይም ጉርባ ተሰድቦ የሚበገር ሰው አይደለም !!

Have ever taken a Logic 101 course in HS or college? Do you know the distinction between X & (-X); that is,between Y and Not Y? That is your answer. A modern democratic functional federal structure can be based on any variable other than tribal, ethnic boundaries. These variables include factors of economic development, factors of administrative ease, factors of historical experiences, factors of geography and ease transportation, communication and distribution of water, air, soil and pants, most of all factors of national integration and nation building. In short, just like an excellent urban planning, federal structuration works from a national future and long civilizational factors, visions and strategies. In short, this is not for the least educated drama driven kero level thinking. You can go ahead muddle with tribal kulage and you will revisit your folly like all fools of history.

እናም የመሃይም ስድብ አቁም ።

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Post by Horus » 14 Jun 2019, 20:17

Now about Language and culture:
Much has been said about language. What is language? Language is not a product of birth or genetics. Language is behavior; language is a learned or acquired skill. It is not a born trait. Language is competence, it is a learned ability. The fact that one speaks Amharic does not him or her an Amara ethnic; it is the same with Oromo and all.

In a multi lingual federal state persons can speak as many languages as they wish. If a particular tribe want to write and develop his own ethnic language they do so. If people want to make this or that language an official language of administration or business they can do so provided that there is a need for it and democratically decided. In the end language develops not by means of politics and force but because of the functionality and utility of the language human development and progress of the people. The people are the people alone are the creators and developers of a language.

Language is a skill. Any skill if it is useful and beneficial the people intuitively learn and grow it. It is a political tool and means of miseducation, cognitive underdevelopment and barrier to growth they reject it will go on being a marginal drama of a few elites. Language wins and becomes widely used in proportion to its facilitation of civilizational growth - the growth knowledge, science, technology, economy, art, literature and philosophy.

Swahili is spoken by millions upon million but is not a language science and technology, beqa !

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Post by Selam/ » 14 Jun 2019, 22:13

If people’s ethnicities were to be defined solely by their languages then we would need to find a deaf tribe.
Horus wrote:
14 Jun 2019, 20:17
Now about Language and culture:
Much has been said about language. What is language? Language is not a product of birth or genetics. Language is behavior; language is a learned or acquired skill. It is not a born trait. Language is competence, it is a learned ability. The fact that one speaks Amharic does not him or her an Amara ethnic; it is the same with Oromo and all.

In a multi lingual federal state persons can speak as many languages as they wish. If a particular tribe want to write and develop his own ethnic language they do so. If people want to make this or that language an official language of administration or business they can do so provided that there is a need for it and democratically decided. In the end language develops not by means of politics and force but because of the functionality and utility of the language human development and progress of the people. The people are the people alone are the creators and developers of a language.

Language is a skill. Any skill if it is useful and beneficial the people intuitively learn and grow it. It is a political tool and means of miseducation, cognitive underdevelopment and barrier to growth they reject it will go on being a marginal drama of a few elites. Language wins and becomes widely used in proportion to its facilitation of civilizational growth - the growth knowledge, science, technology, economy, art, literature and philosophy.

Swahili is spoken by millions upon million but is not a language science and technology, beqa !

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Post by Horus » 15 Jun 2019, 02:18

Selam/
Yes, in the mono-categorical universe of the one dimensional mind, there is one giant reality called Gosa. This singular planet size monster grows so big and overwhelming that all others senses of distinctions and boundaries of reality identity disappears. Now society is one, single huge, ugly mountain size tribal pile of trash---that has no eye on its face, no brain on its head... that is where we are, It is a tragic and dark cognitive black cave we find ourselves. We need a candle to see our way out. This cave must be shut down !!!

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Post by Ethoash » 15 Jun 2019, 09:40

Selam/ wrote:
14 Jun 2019, 22:13
If people’s ethnicities were to be defined solely by their languages then we would need to find a deaf tribe.
you get me... deaf also communicate by writing and sign languages and also deaf can read lip ............

pls deaf have father, mother, wife and community they r not single entity... i dont know what u r implying when u ask
ethnicities were to be defined solely by their languages then we would need to find a deaf tribe.


then, why not u tell us wise one...while at it tell us their nationality too..

second understand ethnic and tribe difference... Ethiopia doesnt have tribe fed. system what we have is የብሔር ብሔረተስቦች ፈደራል ሲስተም ነው ያለን ... if we have "ethnic" fed. system then we would have 80 ethnic fed state but what we have is only 9 fed. state. who come because each state have many ethnic with in.. one state doesnt belong to only one ethnic .. even so those buda Amhara try to imply...

if u miss my point an American deaf communicate in written English or ASL, an Ethiopian deaf communicate in Afan oromo, or Afan Amhara written language or Esl , Ethiopian sign language for sure the American and the Ethiopian deaf might not understood each other because they sign different sign language

so according to our wise Selam if i am deaf .. even if i am born from an oromo parent i will lose my "tribe"because i dont speak it...

here are the tribe group so that what we r talking wise one when we say oromo ብሔር



Gujii and Barentu subgroups
The Gujii include:

Samaalo
Walaabuu
Rayyaa
Karrayyuu,
Walloo
Jiddu Milkeysaa
Macca Oromo, living between Didessa River and the Omo River, and south into the Gibe region
gaaroo
Sirba
Libaan
Jaawwii
Daal'ee
Jiddaa
Tulama Oromo, who live in the Oromia Region around Addis Ababa
Daaccii
Oboo
Diigaluu
Eekka
Guulaalee
Gumbichuu
Konnoo
Yaayee
Galaan
Aabuu
Adaa
Gaduulaa
Jaarsoo
Jiddaa
Libaan
Soddo
Libaan
Odituu
Tummee
Bachoo
Garasuu
Illu
Meexaa
Uruu
Waajituu
Jiillee
Ormaa
Dayyaa
Komboo
The Guji Oromo, who inhabit the southern part of Oromia, neighbouring the Borana Guttuu and the Sidama people.
Hokkuu
Maatii
Uragaa


The Borana Oromo, also known as Boraan Guttuu, who live in the Borena Zone, which includes Moyale. They also live in Kenya and parts of Somalia.

The Gabra Oromo, who live in north Kenya along the Moyale border region
The Orma people, who live in southern Somalia, and northeastern Kenya
Other subdivisions.

Barentu Oromo subgroups
The Barentu include:

Karrayyu
Libaan
Wallo(Wollo)
Warra Ilu
Warra Himanu
Warra Qallu
Warra Qobo
Warra Rayya
Warra Wayyu
Warra Yejju (Yejju Oromo)
Jille
Obo
Suba
Bala
Marawa
Dhumuga
Warra Heela
Warra Akkiyaa
Warra Kajaammo
Warra Heebaana
Warra Asallaa
Arsi (Arse)
Mandoo Arsi
Warra Bulla
Warra Wacallee
Warra Waajii
Warra Ilaan
Warra Hawaxa
Warra Utaa
Warra Jawwii
Sikko Arsi
Warra Wayyu
Warra Harawa
Warra Biltu
Warra Kajawa
Warra Rayya
Humbanna
Aniyaa
Saddacha
Warra Babbu
Warra Dambi
Warra Malka
Kudhelle
Warra Aanaa
Warra Biddu
Warra Koyye
Warra Maccaa
Afran Qallo which refers to the 4 decedents of Qallo, who are:
Ala
Warra Abbaddo
Warra Abbayi
Warra Arroji
Warra Babbu
Warra Diramu
Warra Erer
Warra Galaan
Warra Goollo
Warra Gutayyu
Warra Kako
Warra Metta
Warra Nunnu
Babille
Gundibi
Warra Aade
Warra Agaay
Hawiyya
Warra Doobiro
Warra Girii
Jille
Warra Olid
Warra Waaed
Dagga
Huumee
Warra Hiyyo
Jaarso
Warra Walaabu
Warra Sayyo
Warra Ogaa
Warra Ugadhiho
Warra Dawaro
Warra Dhanka
Noole
Haleele Noole
Mucaa Noole
Warra Abbayi
Warra Babbu
Warra Guyyee
Oromo Noole
Warra Bukee
Warra Eegu
Warra Jidda
Warra Maaru
Warra Naya’a
Warra Wacalle
Abuu Noole
Warra Jarte
Warra Dhanqa
Warra Usmaan
Warra Omaar
Warra Mahammad
Warra Garrir
Warra Gatu
Obborra
Billi
Dagga
Warra Dadaroo
Warra Guttu
Warra Nunnu
Dorani

the above is their tribe but all are oromo

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Post by Horus » 15 Jun 2019, 12:49

Ethoash,

ይህን ሰሞን ያንተን ነገር ትተህ በሌሎቹ ላይ ነው ድካምህ !! ለምን ስላንተ ክላን ወይ ትራይብ ትንሽ ጀባ አትለንም፤ ማለትም በትግሬ ስላሉት መቶ ወይም ሁለት መቶ የትግሬ ክላኖች ??? የክላን ስየማና ቆጠራ ተረት (ሚትዝ) ለሁሉም አንድ ነው። እስቲ ልክ እንደ ኦሮሞ ዝርዝር ለትፍ።

በነግራችን ላይ ገላን እና ያዬ አስወጣ። እነሱ ካምደ ጽዮን በፊት ከ1300 አም በፊት ታሪካቸው ተጽፎ ያለ የኦሪት አምላክ ጎርጌ በዛሬው አባባል ሆሪቴዎች ናችው።

ጉለሌ፣ ሰላሌ፣ ገራሬ (ገራሪያ) ቦታዎች ናቸው። ሰሜን፣ ላይኛ ቦታ፣ አገር ማለት ነው ፤ ያም ተረት ይቁም

ዬካ ወይም ሄካ ቃሉም ግዕዝ ሲሆን መጠለያ፣ መጠጊያ ቦታ፣ ምሽግ፣ ዋሻ ማለት ነው ። ለምሳሌ ያህል ዋሻ ሚካኤል፣ ዋሻ ስላሴ፣ ምስካየ መድሃኒአለም፣ ዬክ ሚካኤል፣ መካነ ኢየሱስ ወዘተ። የካ፣ ሄካ የቦታ ስም ነው። ግዕዝ ነው ። ምስካየ፣ ምስካነ ዪሉዋል።

ሌሎችም ተረተኞች በዘፈቀደ የቀባጠሩትን ወሬ ብለህ አታናፋ !!

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Post by Ethoash » 15 Jun 2019, 15:09

horororororo

forget everything start this buiness of converting banana fiber to throw way plates



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Post by Horus » 15 Jun 2019, 20:45

Ethioash,

ይህን ልብ ብለህ አዳምጣ ትንሽ ትምህርት ውሰድ!!!

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ኢትዮአሽ፣

ስለ ገላን እና ያዬ ጥንታዊ ሕዝብ ያልኩትን በአብነት ላሳይህ ብዬ ነው።

የገላን ሕዝብ እና የያይ ሕዝብ ዛሬ በኦሮሞነት በደቡብ እና ም ዕራብ አዲስ አበባ ስማቸው ይነሳል፣ እስከ አዳዲ እሳከ ዝቋላ ያሉት ማለት ነው። ያያ ሕዝብ ዛሬ በቾ በሚባለው አገር ያሉት ናቸው። እነዚህ ሕዝቦች የሁላችህንም ግንድ አባቶች ኦሮሞ በሸዋ ከመከሰቱ 300 አመታት ቀድሞ ምናልባትም ከዘመነ አክሱም ጀምሮ በሸዋ የኖሩ ሕዝቦች ለመሆናቸው ከታች ያለውን አንብብ። ገላንና ያያ በኦሮሞ የተወሰዱ ሕዝብ እንጂ እንደ አንድ የኦሮሞ ክላን መቁጠር ግፍ ነው ።

በኔ ግምት ራሱ ጉራጌ የሚለው ስም ቆርጌ ከተሰኘው የገላኖች እምነት ተዋርዶ የመጣ ነው ባይ ነኝ። የዚህ ማረጋገጫ ወደፊት ይታያል።

Taddesse Tamrat, Church and State, Page 184.
Here is the quotation about the people Tekle Haymnot meets in South and South-west Shewa in 1290s AD, years Aade Tsiyon wars of 1330s. Oromos appear in Shewa in fact around 1600 (300-350 years later)

“He (Tekle Haymanot) found the inhabitants of the country worshipping the devil at the foot of a kobo tree. (Kobo tree is a gulo fere tree). They were sitting there eating, drinking and amusing themselves in the fashion of Muslims. They fanned the fire with their hands and held hot flames in their mouths and chanted saying ‘O People of Gelan and Yey, see what your god Qorke can do!... And they brought for Qorke’ a daily present of two fat cows, five sheep, five goats, and twenty-one baskets white wheat bread. All these were eaten by the functionaries of the gods.”

And there a footnote that describes the possible location of Gelan and Yay. It was Mt. Wejej (present Wochocha or Menagesha)

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horororo watch my video first .. instead of wasting your time in politics of ዙርያ ጥምጥም endless talk,

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Re: ጉራጌ ለ60 አመታት በጎሳ ቀውስ ሳይታለል፣ በዘር ቅዠት ሳይባንን ኢትዮጵያን አንድ እያረገ ያለ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሕዝብ !!

Post by Horus » 19 Jun 2019, 01:41

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ለምን ምን እንደ ምትወድ አትወስንም ! ስለ ፈጠራ የምትለትለጥፈው ላይ ችግር የለኝም ግ ን ባንድ አፍህ ዘረኝነት እያፋፋምክ በሌላ በኩል የጎሳ ፖለቲካ ተጠቂ የሆነውን ኤርሚያስ ጠቅል አመልጋን እዱ ትላለህ ። የኤርሚያ ሃሳብኮ ሰለጉራጌ አይደለም፣ ስለ ኢትዮጵያ ነው ። ለምን አንተ ፍሪ ኤርሚያስ የሚል ዘመቻ አትጀምርም? !!!

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Re: ጉራጌ ለ60 አመታት በጎሳ ቀውስ ሳይታለል፣ በዘር ቅዠት ሳይባንን ኢትዮጵያን አንድ እያረገ ያለ ኢትዮጵያዊ ሕዝብ !!

Post by Horus » 21 Jun 2019, 10:39

እስቲ ከዊኪፒዲያ ካገኘሁት ጥቂት የጉራጌ ተወላጆችን ላስተዋውቃችሁ

• Maya Gate Haile, Super Model
• Samuel Tafesse, business man in energy, realestate and hotel
• Diguma hunde, business man in manufacturing
• Ermyas Amelga, nEthiopian born American business man
• Getu Gelete, notable business man in realestate and other businesses
• Dembel Nega, realestate mogul
• Imam Baqsa one of the many leaders of Gurage resistance movement that began in 1875 against King Menelik's campaigns to Reconquer Gurage to his Shewa kingdom in his effort to expand his Shewan realm and Ethiopian empire. In 1878 or earlier, young Habte-Giorgis, presumed to be one of the Gurage resistance fighters of Imam Baqsa was captured in a battle by Menelik's soldiers and paraded in Ankobere. He later successfully integrated himself into the enemy army and became one of its zealots. A firm believer in conquest, he grew to be a Minister of War and Fitawrari (literally, a battle front leader) in Menelik's expanding kingdom.[18][19]
• Abune Gebremenfes Kidus - a Saint. ¨Medere Kebed Monastery
• Habte Giyorgis Dinagde (አባ መቻል & አባ መላ) Ethiopian Minister of War, during the reigns of Menelik II, Iyasu V, Zewditu and Haile Selassie.
• Woizero Tenagnework Sahle Selassie Emperor Haile Selassie(Grand Mother)
• Wolde Selassie Bereka Lt.General ( Army ) Chief of Staff of the Imperial Armed forces, Commander in Chief of Ground forces,
• Deressie Dubale Lt.General ( Army ) Commander in Chief of Ground Forces Gurage & Amhara (Mixed).
• Yilma Shibeshi Lt.General ( Police ) Commander of Imperial Police Forces.
• Teshome Ergetu Lt.General ( Army ) Division Commander Gurage & Oromo (Mixed).
• Wolde Tsadik Gebere Meskel Maj.General Deputy Commander Imperial Bodyguard.
• Hailu Gebere Michael Maj.General ( Army, Holeta ) Commander of the Ground Forces Oromo & Gurage (mixed).
• Abebe Wolde Mariam Maj.General ( Air Force ) Deputy Minister of Defense for logistics Gurage and Amhara from(Shewa)(mixed).
• Kefelgen Yibza Maj.General ( Army, Holeta ) Commander of Central Command,Commander of ground forces.
• Tilahun Argaw Maj.General ( Army, Holeta ) Core commander,Co mmander of Special Command, Assab Gurage & Amhara.
• Kinfe Gebrel Dinku Maj.General ( Imp. Bodyguard, 3rd course ) Head of Mil.Operations Ministry of Defense.
• Girma Neway Maj.General Commander of Ethiopian Police Forces after 1989 Aborted coup Amhara & Gurage (Mixed).
• Assefa Hailemaraim Maj.General ( Army Police,Sendafa Commander ).
• Tariku Ayne Brigadier General, the commander of Nadew command in northern Eritrea.
• Tesfaye Habtemariam Brgadier General ( Air Born ) he was awarded the highest medal for heroism, Ye Hibretsebawit Ethiopia Woder Ye Lelew Jegna Medaliya.
• Tadesse Gebrekidan Governor Of National Bank Of Ethiopia & Ministry Of Foreign Trade.
• Yacob Hailemariam professor of business law at Norfolk State University; former Senior Prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda; and an elected member of the Ethiopian parliament who had been held as a "prisoner of conscience" in Ethiopia.
• Berhanu Nega Professor He did his undergraduate degree in economics at the State University of New York at New Paltz[4] and got his PhD Having completed his PhD studies,During the 2005 Ethiopian elections, Berhanu debated Meles Zenawi.[6] Despite the post-election political impasse, CUD met on 20 August and elected Berhanu mayor of Addis Ababa, After he returned to U.S he joined the faculty of economics at Bucknell University, where he became a lecturer in economics for three years.
• Dr Tadesse Biru Kersmo Lecturer Greenwich School of Management, Graduate School for Social Research.
• Abba François Markos,[20] Roman Catholic priest, social worker, and educator[21]
• Mahmoud Ahmed, singer[22]
• Teddy Afro, Ethiopian Musician of Sodo Gurage background.
• Abenet Agonafer - Ethiopian Musician & he is also skilled in guitar.
• Aster Aweke , Ethiopian musician of Gurage background
• Emahoy tisge mariam Gebru musician of Gurage background.
• Professor Bahru Zewde, Emeritus Professor of History at Addis Ababa University, Fellow of the African Academy of Sciences and Vice President of the Association of African Historians.
• Dejazmach Balcha Safo (አባ ነፍሶ) - military commander and lord protector of the crown, who served in both the First and Second Italo-Ethiopian Wars .
• Ras Desta Damtew (አባ ቀማው) - was an Ethiopian noble, an army commander , and a son-in-law of Emperor Haile Selassie I.
• Fitawrari Damtew Ketena - foreign minister and army commander in Adwa, killed in Action.
• Dejazmach Abebe Damtew - army commander in Adwa, killed in Action.
• Woizero Ijigayehu Adeyamo - mother of Emperor Menelik ll.
• Sahle Sellassie Berhane Mariam - an Ethiopian author.
• Dejazmach Bekele Weya - patriots against the Italians during the occupation.
• Fitawrari Damitew Ketema- patriots against the Italians during the occupation.
• lieutenant general Yilma Shibeshi - patriots against the Italians during the occupation.
• Yekake Wurdot - The first women fight against women discrimination.
• Tesfaye W/Mariam - Winner of the medal in Ethiopian air force.
• Emahoy Desta Datiye in 1888and 1928 patriots against the Italians during the occupation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurage_people

ዊኪፒዲያው አንዳንድ እርማት እና የሚጨመሩ ነገሮች አሉጥ ለምሳሌ ታላቁ የጎንደር ዘመን ራስ ዘሥላሴ አልተጠቀሱም። ሰሜን ጉራሬን ክስታኔ እንደ ማለት ሶዶ ይላቸዋል፤ የታሪኩ ክፍልም አንዳድ ስህተቶች አሉት፤ አሁን በዘመነ ዎያኔ የተዘሩ ነገሮችን እንደ አብነት ወስዷል፣ ወዘተ። ግን ጥሩ ጅማሮ ነው።

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