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Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Democrat » 14 Apr 2019, 22:29

Yemen and Southern Arabia were part of Aksumite Kingdom, mainly based in Tigray, North Ethiopia. The Holy City of aksum is still a very lovely city, as majestic as some 4000 years ago. The Aksumite King, Caleb contolled the Eastern and Western of The Red Sea. In fact General Abraha was a viceroy of King Kaleb of Aksum. General Abraha later decalred a king of Yemene and Southern Arabia and died around 560 CE. Abraha left the crown to his son Aksum. Aksum ruled Yemen and Southern Arbaia for about 40 years. He was suceed by his younger brother Misraq who ruled Yemen and Southern Arabia for about 30 years until he was over thrown by a stronger Persian King in 628 CE.

"Abraha (also spelled Abreha, died after CE 553;[1] r. 525–at least 553[2]), also known as Abraha al-Ashram (Arabic: أبرهة الأشرم‎), was an Aksumite army general, then the viceroy of southern Arabia for the Kingdom of Aksum, and later declared himself an independent King of Himyar. Abraha ruled much of present-day Arabia and Yemen from at least 531–547 CE to 555–565 CE.



Dhu Nuwas, the Jewish Himyarite ruler of Yemen, in the period c. 523–525[5] or c. 518–20[1] launched military operations against the Aksumite Christians and their local Arab Christian allies.[6] The Aksumites in Zafar were killed, their fortresses in the Yemeni highlands destroyed, and Najran sacked.

Najran fell in 518 or 523 and many members of the Himyarite Christian community were put to death evoking great sympathy throughout the Christian regions of the Orient and prompting an intercontinental Aksumite military intervention using the massive Aksumite fleet aided by a small extra Byzantine fleet first made in 518/523.[6]

Abraha was either one of the commanders or a member of one of the armies led by King Kaleb of Axum against Dhu Nuwas. In al-Tabari's history, 'Abraha is said to have been the commander of the second army sent by Kaléb after the first failed, led by 'Ariat.

Abraha was reported to have led his army of 100,000 men with hundreds of elephants to successfully crush all resistance of the Yemeni army and then, following the suicide of Dhu Nuwas, seized power and established himself at Sana‘a. He aroused the wrath of Kaléb, however, by withholding tribute who then sent his general 'Ariat to take over the governorship of Yemen. 'Abraha rid himself of the latter by a subterfuge in a duel resulting in 'Ariat being killed and 'Abraha suffering the injury which earned him the sobriquet of al-Asräm, "scar-face."[5]

According to Procopius (Histories 1.20), 'Abraha seized the control of Yemen from Esimiphaios (Sumuafa' Ashawa'), the Christian Himyarite viceroy appointed by Kaléb, with the support of dissident elements within the Aksum occupation force who were eager to settle in the Yemen, then a rich and fertile land.[5] Stuart Munro-Hay, who proposes a 518 date for the rise of Dhu Nuwas, dates this event to 525,[2] while by the later chronology (in which Dhu Nuwas comes to power in 523), this event would have happened about 530, although a date as late as 543 has been postulated by Jacques Ryckmans.[5]

An army sent by Kaléb to subdue 'Abraha joined his ranks and killed the ruler sent to replace him (this is perhaps a reference to 'Ariat) and a second army was defeated. After this Kaléb had to accord him de facto recognition before earning recognition under Kaleb's successor for a nominal tribute.

Abraha is seen as then becoming a prominent figure in Yemen's history, promoting the cause of Christianity in the face of the prevalent Judaism and the paganism of Central Arabia.[5] A zealous Christian himself, he is said to have built a great church at San'a' and to have repaired the principal irrigation dam at the Sabaean capital of Ma'rib.

Epigraphic sources chronicling 'Abraha's career include an inscription on the Marib Dam recording the quelling of an insurrection backed by a son of the deposed ruler, Esimiphaios, in the year 657 of the Sabaean era, i.e. between 540–550; vital repairs effected to the dam later in the same year; the reception of envoys from the Negus, from Byzantium, from Persia and from Al-Harith ibn Jabalah, the phylarch of Arabia; and the completion of repairs to the dam in the following year, followed by a great feast of rejoicing.

The royal title adopted by 'Abraha "King of Saba' and dhü-Raydän and Hadhramaut and Yamanat and of their Arabs on the plateau and the lowland." was of the Himyarites"

Source: Wikipaedia

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Democrat » 14 Apr 2019, 22:45

I personally feel more comfortable in the company of Saudi Arabians and Yemenis and Pakistanis, whotry to speak to me as if I am their citizen. In some encounters, they speak to me a brother and neighbour and embrace. I mistrust them because of their religion as they are muslims. But these days, I think most Tigreans should feel more at home in the Company of Saudi Arabians or Yemenis than in the company of Amhara or Oromos.

Considering a federation with Yemen and South Arabia should be one of options for Tigrayans as the Amhara and Oromo are difficult to manage and are backward in many ways.

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Democrat » 14 Apr 2019, 23:00

Tigrayan political elites should think in terms of alternatives, future trade potentials and cultural achievements. What happened in Ethiopia agaisnt Tigrayans and The Gedeo people is unforgettable and traumatic. We should defend ourselves and our history by reviving our old historical territories, The Oromo cannot be Ethiopians. They are from Kenya. The Amhara are too stupid to understand Tigrayans.
The Southern people are neutral but they are too unorganised.

The future of Ethiopia is uncertain as people do not want to be killed or robbed . There is no law and order. It is a shame to see human beings to get their breast cut or forced out of their homes to make it free for people who do not own it. This is pprimitive war. The Irrecha and Gaada systems we see in Oromo are primitive forms of social organisation.

A dream shared by many Tigrayans to electrify and inustrialize Ethiopia is shattered. This will never happy in Ethiopia as long as long as the Amhara or Oromo or Guraghe are in power.

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Democrat » 14 Apr 2019, 23:48

Tigrayans should not hide their Middle Eastern and Far Eastern connection. There are many africans of arabic and jewish blood. Tigrayans have both Arabic and Jewish blood running in theri veins. Aksum was home to the first Jewish Immigrants to Ethiopia even though there have been Jewish migration to Egypt.

Tigrayns shy their Yemeni, Southern Arabia and Israeli connections. Even some families in Tigray have decedants from Pakistan and India. Tigrayns seem to be victims of panafricanism, which discriminates against Jews and Arabs. Panafricanism is black (negro nationalism). But some africans are not negros. Algeria, Tunisa, Egypt, Morroco, Madagascar, parts of Ethiopia and Sudan are not negroid. We should be critical of black nationalism, which Ethiopia is a victim of. They think Ethiopia's civilisation in Aksum is a product of black people. This is not true. There have been other races involved, at least in Ethiopia.

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Zack » 15 Apr 2019, 01:35

Are you willing to convert to Islam in mass


Dr Zackovich

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Za Dengel » 15 Apr 2019, 02:09

Why are Tigrean obsessed with Arab when have little to do with them? Tigray ppl are funny.

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Democrat » 15 Apr 2019, 04:55

The culture of Tigray is similar to those accross the Red Sea. They are our roots to an extent. As to religion, we could reamin christians. I do not mind converting to Islam personally as long as it gives our people security to live and develop their culture/improve their daily life.

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Za Dengel » 15 Apr 2019, 14:25

Democrat wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 04:55
The culture of Tigray is similar to those accross the Red Sea. They are our roots to an extent. As to religion, we could reamin christians. I do not mind converting to Islam personally as long as it gives our people security to live and develop their culture/improve their daily life.
You such an embarrassing being. By the way here is your mother. :lol:

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Axumawi » 15 Apr 2019, 14:36

What ever the relation was we are now different people, different countries, different continents.

They now speak Arabic, or trying to.

They are also mix of different peoples like Farsi, Turkish, Indian.


Only 2 things in common:
Tigreans and Yemenis both Waring people, rebellious, hardly colonized for any length of time. Always defeated Egypt
Tigrean and Yemeni both Poor in material wealth

No need to look for something impossible, unless one side becomes so technologically advanced, economically wealthy and attracts the other. The chances of that happening in a century are almost nill.

If you feel so attached, wish them well. And if so much more attached volunteer and join them. Otherwise its yeqotun awerd bila yebibitwan taletch.

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Re: Shall Tigray re-unite with Yemen and Southern Arabia?

Post by Hawzen » 15 Apr 2019, 18:12

Democrat wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 04:55
The culture of Tigray is similar to those accross the Red Sea. They are our roots to an extent. As to religion, we could reamin christians. I do not mind converting to Islam personally as long as it gives our people security to live and develop their culture/improve their daily life.
May God have Mercy on the evil agames!!!

It means the low IQ agames don't have any faith/belief whatsoever... In fact, this is not the first time I have heard such outrageous claim by agames. The coward little frog Meles had also made the same claim by stating he was Yemeni.. So you prefer to be volunteer slaves in Arab Countries to being proud Ethiopians ????

Agames are clearly the cheapest wh*ores in the history of Human being...

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF

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