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Post by Revelations » 15 Apr 2019, 09:35

eden, Axumawi and ethioash will not join this association for sure.

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Post by Axumawi » 15 Apr 2019, 10:43

Revelations wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 09:35
eden, Axumawi and ethioash will not join this association for sure.
Tigreans are the spice of political life in the HoA. You have to have one. If they don't participate actively, you have to beg them to do.
Every kind of political movement have to have a Tigrean.

I don't think you heard Dr. Gidey Assefa. He told you why and how he left Ethiopia. He was to be arrested by Derg simply for being Tigrean. He was never member of TPLF. What do you think that does to him?

As for opposing TPLF, why not. Even its 1st chairman and vice chairman, Aregawi Berhe and Gidey Zeratsion, are opposition for the last 35 years.

EDU was chaired by Leul Ras Mengesha Siyum

EPRP was by Dr. Tesfay Debesay and among its founders and leaders Berhanemesqel Reda and others

We are the spice.....

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Post by yaballo » 15 Apr 2019, 11:23

Axumawi;

So, Dr. Debesay & all those EPRP leaders were mostly ethnic Tigres? Interesting... In the pre- woyane era, your average Oromos, Somalis or members of one of those many tribes in southern Ethiopia wouldn't tell the difference between an ethnic Tigre, ethnic Amhara or ethnic Guraghe names. Most wouldn't have told - or cared - whether EPRP's Dr. Debesay was an ethnic Tigre, Amhara or Guraghe. Not any more!

But today, partially thanks to woyane+shabia effort, most barely educated southerners are keenly aware of a person's ethnic identity by just looking at the person's name, father's name, etc. Even if a person assumed a fake name of another tribe; they tend to examine that person's real ethnic identity by seeking secondary evidences, or by asking them to speak that tribe's language before accepting them at face value.

That is: the era of northerners (habeshas) having a commanding role in the political life of southern Ethiopian tribes is truly .. OVER! .. FINITO! .. Which is a great thing. 8)



Axumawi wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 10:43
Revelations wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 09:35
eden, Axumawi and ethioash will not join this association for sure.
Tigreans are the spice of political life in the HoA. You have to have one. If they don't participate actively, you have to beg them to do.
Every kind of political movement have to have a Tigrean.

I don't think you heard Dr. Gidey Assefa. He told you why and how he left Ethiopia. He was to be arrested by Derg simply for being Tigrean. He was never member of TPLF. What do you think that does to him?

As for opposing TPLF, why not. Even its 1st chairman and vice chairman, Aregawi Berhe and Gidey Zeratsion, are opposition for the last 35 years.

EDU was chaired by Leul Ras Mengesha Siyum

EPRP was by Dr. Tesfay Debesay and among its founders and leaders Berhanemesqel Reda and others

We are the spice.....

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Post by Axumawi » 15 Apr 2019, 11:47

yaballo wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 11:23
Axumawi;

So, Dr. Debesay & all those EPRP leaders were mostly ethnic Tigres? Interesting... In the pre- woyane era, your average Oromos, Somalis or members of one of those many tribes in southern Ethiopia wouldn't tell the difference between an ethnic Tigre, ethnic Amhara or ethnic Guraghe names. Most wouldn't have told - or cared - whether EPRP's Dr. Debesay was an ethnic Tigre, Amhara or Guraghe. Not any more!

But today, partially thanks to woyane+shabia effort, most barely educated southerners are keenly aware of a person's ethnic identity by just looking at the person's name, father's name, etc. Even if a person assumed a fake name of another tribe; they tend to examine that person's real ethnic identity by seeking secondary evidences, or by asking them to speak that tribe's language before accepting them at face value.

That is: the era of northerners (habeshas) having a commanding role in the political life of southern Ethiopian tribes is truly .. OVER! .. FINITO! .. Which is a great thing. 8)



Axumawi wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 10:43
Revelations wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 09:35
eden, Axumawi and ethioash will not join this association for sure.
Tigreans are the spice of political life in the HoA. You have to have one. If they don't participate actively, you have to beg them to do.
Every kind of political movement have to have a Tigrean.

I don't think you heard Dr. Gidey Assefa. He told you why and how he left Ethiopia. He was to be arrested by Derg simply for being Tigrean. He was never member of TPLF. What do you think that does to him?

As for opposing TPLF, why not. Even its 1st chairman and vice chairman, Aregawi Berhe and Gidey Zeratsion, are opposition for the last 35 years.

EDU was chaired by Leul Ras Mengesha Siyum

EPRP was by Dr. Tesfay Debesay and among its founders and leaders Berhanemesqel Reda and others

We are the spice.....
I think the average person, still can't tell and those active knew from the beginning.

Birhanemesqel was killed, because he was convinced that the Derg could be changed to implement what their movement wanted. Land to the Tiller and Nationalities issues, just like Meison did.
OLF and TPLF met from the beginning and agreed to exchange fighters units so that there would be fighters that would be familiar with each cultures, language..to facilitate working together.
Most organizations knew each other, who is who and the student movement as well.

Regarding name change. Its common for Tigrean fighters to take name of the fallen. First reason is the name of the fallen to be carried forward, and hoping the name will encourage you to be brave to be worthy of the fallen's name. Some was also done for security reasons, but even then was done with names of old Mesafint or historical people.

Almost all founders and leaders of EPRP that were Tigreans and Eritreans were killed. Almost all Amhara and Gurage are still alive. go figure

EPRP first enemy to this day is TPLF. go figure. They would rather sit and connive with Derg than TPLF. That much hate.

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Post by Revelations » 15 Apr 2019, 14:53

Axumawi wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 10:43
Revelations wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 09:35
eden, Axumawi and ethioash will not join this association for sure.
Tigreans are the spice of political life in the HoA. You have to have one. If they don't participate actively, you have to beg them to do.
Every kind of political movement have to have a Tigrean.

I don't think you heard Dr. Gidey Assefa. He told you why and how he left Ethiopia. He was to be arrested by Derg simply for being Tigrean. He was never member of TPLF. What do you think that does to him?

As for opposing TPLF, why not. Even its 1st chairman and vice chairman, Aregawi Berhe and Gidey Zeratsion, are opposition for the last 35 years.

EDU was chaired by Leul Ras Mengesha Siyum

EPRP was by Dr. Tesfay Debesay and among its founders and leaders Berhanemesqel Reda and others

We are the spice.....
Haha! You still won't join this new association.

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Post by Axumawi » 15 Apr 2019, 15:07

Revelations wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 14:53
Axumawi wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 10:43
Revelations wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 09:35
eden, Axumawi and ethioash will not join this association for sure.
Tigreans are the spice of political life in the HoA. You have to have one. If they don't participate actively, you have to beg them to do.
Every kind of political movement have to have a Tigrean.

I don't think you heard Dr. Gidey Assefa. He told you why and how he left Ethiopia. He was to be arrested by Derg simply for being Tigrean. He was never member of TPLF. What do you think that does to him?

As for opposing TPLF, why not. Even its 1st chairman and vice chairman, Aregawi Berhe and Gidey Zeratsion, are opposition for the last 35 years.

EDU was chaired by Leul Ras Mengesha Siyum

EPRP was by Dr. Tesfay Debesay and among its founders and leaders Berhanemesqel Reda and others

We are the spice.....
Haha! You still won't join this new association.


You don't think they are enough?

We have a small population. If every organization and ideology take more, then we will have nobody left to do the real work. For spicing up or in some cases to lead we can only afford few of them.

If there are 107 parties in Ethiopia, I am sure 80% of them need at least one Tigrean.

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Post by Revelations » 15 Apr 2019, 18:40

Axumawi wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 15:07


You don't think they are enough?

We have a small population. If every organization and ideology take more, then we will have nobody left to do the real work. For spicing up or in some cases to lead we can only afford few of them.

If there are 107 parties in Ethiopia, I am sure 80% of them need at least one Tigrean.
Missionary Axumawi (you did say in a thread that's your preferred posture) confirms the prediction. Denying it is futile, he knows!

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