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Studying political geography of Tigray Awrajas

Post by Axumawi » 13 Apr 2019, 19:11



Both Amhara and Hamasien have difficulty knowing what is what.

Both talk about Tigray Awrajas ...they think Tigray is the same as their areas

Amhara have problem of Gojjam, Shiwa, Wollo, Begemidir, Semien, Wag, Lasta, Quara....

Hamasien have problem of Akeleguzay, Tigre, Afar, Saho, Kunama.....

They should have learned Tigreans long ago, not when they are both in trouble, trying to find an ally in Tigray.


Lesson:
Be strategic. Learn something long before last minute, when you are in dire need.
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Re: 'Amhara' gets bored Hamasien picks up..Studying political geography of Tigray Awrajas

Post by Axumawi » 13 Apr 2019, 19:55

Listen both of you.

Lesson 1 Adwa:
You need to know that Adwa is more hated by villages close to it more than Tigreans far from it.
Reason: The making of the city/history
Adwa is most strategic for trade route. It started rising up, its fortunes changed when Dibarwa was captured by Ottomans.
The reason people hated it was that Adwa was the tax collection, customs, intelligence center during Gonder days.

Itegie Tsehaytu has some relatives in Adwa and through that Adwa had favourable treatment by Hatse Menelik. When everybody in Shiwa was scared to talk to Itegie to not interfere in government day to day activities, and when other bihereseb people could not talk to her about it, like Ras Habtegiorgis, they brought a noble from Adwa to ask her to minimize her interference with government.

During Qedamay Weyannie some nobles from Adwa sided with Hatse Haileslassie

To erase all this:
Adwa became most active in Dagmay Weyannie next to Adyabo/Welqayit...etc. From farmers to the most educated city person from poor to wealthiest.


So why the Amhara failed in 40 years to create friction.
Simple...Adwa has proven in action that it stands tall in Weyannie world. Case closed.

Next Awraja in your lesson will be Agame/Irob..

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Re: Studying political geography of Tigray Awrajas

Post by Axumawi » 13 Apr 2019, 20:41

Tembien:

Tembien role and fame is it was center of power ruling from Quara to Sahel and everything in between. Tembien has very large population in Hamsien.

Tembien has most Agew culture, at this time from most Tigrean Awrajas.

During the conflict between Agew Mesafint, Tembien neighbor of the Agew stayed neutral, here fore between Wag and Semien like Qimanti, Tembien did not take side. Tembien started focusing on the North, like Hamasien, Tigre and Bilen.

Most Tembien warlords also preferred to sit at Adwa. The reason is Adwa is most strategic for trade and source of funds. Adwa is also the gate to Gonder, which every warlord was headed or wanted to go to rule.

Tembien was the last one to submit to Hatse Haileslassie when he came back from Exile. Did not fight, but made its rejection known. Shire, Welqayit, Tselemti in particular are the three most influenced by Tembien. Ancestry and politics.

Qedamay Weyannie:

Tembien was not epicenter, but was the most ready to go and join. When the call was sent out Tembien was ready to act, but the British defeated Qedamay Weyannie (Winston Churchill, who brought Hatse Haileslassie to power over Iyasu also acted to save Hatse Haileslassie again).

Dagmay Weyannie:
Tembien was TPLF from day one. Don't forget many places that are now in Amhara kilil or Tigray Kilil like Debariq, Adi Arqay, Adi Remets, Dansha...have a lot of connections to Tembien.

Vilagges like Shimanigus in Hamasien is totally Tembien.

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Re: Studying political geography of Tigray Awrajas

Post by Axumawi » 13 Apr 2019, 21:16

Agame-Irob

Irob again is one of the ceters of power which ruled Tigray.

Agame are known rebels from the days of Izana, against excessive tax. I don't know how many Qirshi or Maria Teresa it was at the time or if chew or goats was the currency.

Very close to the sea than other places and always looking to the sea. Its the first area in all of Ethiopia that had modern school long before Addis Ababa or any place.
Its also the most Agazian, least Agew by comparison of other areas. Closer to Tigre of Eritrea and Akeleguzay (both closest)

Sibagadis last words were to be burried with his head to today's Eritrea,the sea...maybe Jerusalem...

Ethiopian emperors that were against Tigray were punishing Awrajas or centers of power, one at a time and Agame had its turn during Hatse Menelik and Hatse Haileslassie. EDU, EPRP and EDU tried hard to benefit from this extreme greviance, but TPLF cut short everyone and used the area as second base of operations to launch to south to Awlaelos and others as well as east to Afar.

Of all the EDU and Derg, EPRP is one that still has some residue. The good thing for TPLF is military bravery and gallantry is very important and TPLF excelled in these fields very quickly.

The war with Eritrea was devastating, but again the bravery of the militia, stopping a regular army of Shaebia was the highlight.

This area benefited the least from the development activities except the cities like Adigrat a bit further from the border. The border situation is still most dominant issue around here.

There is great opposition to TPLF agreeing to move on with the border issue, but on the other hand the people know from past:
1. Amhara activists would drop them in a heart bit if Isayas promises them help in Addis Ababa
2. As long as Isayas is around the absolute hate he has for this area will be main reason of problems

Catch 22 for:
Amhara activists is Isayas and this area..can never reconcile the two...its deep, personal, long time
Oromos: people here are not kush lol and Abiy Lema even Jawar had wrong start...Again Isayas comes to the picture

closest blood kins of the area are in Eritrea most highlands including most in Asmara and Afar side

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Re: Studying political geography of Tigray Awrajas

Post by Abe Abraham » 13 Apr 2019, 22:01

Axumawi wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 19:11


Both Amhara and Hamasien have difficulty knowing what is what.

Both talk about Tigray Awrajas ...they think Tigray is the same as their areas

Amhara have problem of Gojjam, Shiwa, Wollo, Begemidir, Semien, Wag, Lasta, Quara....

Hamasien have problem of Akeleguzay, Tigre, Afar, Saho, Kunama.....

They should have learned Tigreans long ago, not when they are both in trouble, trying to find an ally in Tigray.


Lesson:
Be strategic. Learn something long before last minute, when you are in dire need.
ኣነ በዛ ነብሰይ ካብ ዝተፈላለዩ ቦታታት ናይ ትግራይ ዝመጹ ሰባት ይፈልጥ ኔረ ። ከመይ ጌርካ ኤርትራውያን ንተጋሩ ኣይትፈልጡናን ኢኹም ትብለና ?

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Re: Studying political geography of Tigray Awrajas

Post by Axumawi » 13 Apr 2019, 22:15

Abe Abraham wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 22:01
Axumawi wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 19:11


Both Amhara and Hamasien have difficulty knowing what is what.

Both talk about Tigray Awrajas ...they think Tigray is the same as their areas

Amhara have problem of Gojjam, Shiwa, Wollo, Begemidir, Semien, Wag, Lasta, Quara....

Hamasien have problem of Akeleguzay, Tigre, Afar, Saho, Kunama.....

They should have learned Tigreans long ago, not when they are both in trouble, trying to find an ally in Tigray.


Lesson:
Be strategic. Learn something long before last minute, when you are in dire need.
ኣነ በዛ ነብሰይ ካብ ዝተፈላለዩ ቦታታት ናይ ትግራይ ዝመጹ ሰባት ይፈልጥ ኔረ ። ከመይ ጌርካ ኤርትራውያን ንተጋሩ ኣይትፈልጡናን ኢኹም ትብለና ?
We are talking about politics here, otherwise people to people, in some cases may even be siblings.

Every zone of Tigray has ruled Tigray at one point or another. This for example Highland Eritreans do not know in political sense. Akeleguzay and Saho/Irob and Afar to some degree knows that Agame and also Awlaelo have ruled both at different times.
Hamasien knows both Agamae and Tembien rule.

Seraye knows Tembien and Shire rule. Akeleguzay have no experience with Shire rule (Dibarwa).

That is what I meant.

The activists here may never have heard some awrajas, but in both Ethiopia and Eritrea there is a question..what to do about Weyannie..
Everbody is throwing darts at what they know best ..like Awrajanet which is very strong in Eritrea and Amhara than in Tigray.

40 years, almost 2 generations is a long time.

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