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Post by Revelations » 14 Mar 2019, 12:25

Bashu wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 12:04
According to General Berhanu Bula of Ethiopia. The naval base is going to be built "Adjacent to the red sea and Indian Ocean" , wherever the hell exactly that is.
Cohen predicted who the PM was going to be and he was correct. This seems to be an intentional leak not a slip of the tongue.

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Post by simbe11 » 14 Mar 2019, 12:34

Bashu wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 12:04
According to General Berhanu Bula of Ethiopia. The naval base is going to be built "Adjacent to the red sea and Indian Ocean" , wherever the hell exactly that is.
I believe that location is where the EPLF was making a covert agreement with the DERG regime at the height of the civil war. If that agreement materialized, it would have been the demise of TPLF.

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Post by simbe11 » 14 Mar 2019, 12:40

info wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 06:46
Zmeselo wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 05:15
Info, name calling aside, I believe some Ethiopians always seem to forget that when they involve a third party (France in this case) with own agenda for the region, it's bound to create anxiety.

Why do you always take it personal, when you invite foreigners?
I am not taking it personal, I am just frustrated at the fact that we horners can't cooperate like normal sane countries without creating conspiracy theories and blowing it all out of proportion. I don't think the issue has anything to do with France. It is rather (in this case) the Eritrean opposition and digital woyane using the alleged cooperation between Ethiopia and Eritrea for their own propaganda and doing it so as if Eritrea is about to lose its sovereignty. Some of our "own idiots" also interpret it as if Eritrea wanted to unite with Ethiopia. In this kind of atmosphere, it is impossible to have a military cooperation without creating political damage. Until we grow up and cooperate as adults like any sane region, Ethiopia and Eritrea and also Ethiopia and Somaliland should first focus on economic cooperation. In the same way Somalia will go nuts if we cooperate with Somaliland on this one. For this reason, military cooperation with Djibouti currently creates the least political damage and confusion in my view.
There is noway out of the problem as long as we keep think of harming others. We should not think of pissing of others in order to gain. I believe we should cooperate with all parties by the horn.
Ethiopia, as we know it today, might not have the Sea access. But with its vibrant economy and huge man power, it could decide the future of the horn.
Eritrea, with its ports, have a great deal of leverage over its neighbors. Coupling this leverage with its historic relationship with Ethiopia, Eri could play a bigger role on deciding the fate of the region.

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Post by Revelations » 14 Mar 2019, 13:19

Zmeselo wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 09:52
I have zero disagreement with you on that info but I sometimes wish you & Ethiopians like you would see things the way we do, concerning these people.

With caution!
Aby Z, this has effect on both sides. Most of us are still trying to unpack this surprising package. How about you?

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Post by Dawi » 14 Mar 2019, 13:54

simbe11 wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 12:40
There is noway out of the problem as long as we keep think of harming others. We should not think of pissing of others in order to gain. I believe we should cooperate with all parties by the horn.
Ethiopia, as we know it today, might not have the Sea access. But with its vibrant economy and huge man power, it could decide the future of the horn.
Eritrea, with its ports, have a great deal of leverage over its neighbors. Coupling this leverage with its historic relationship with Ethiopia, Eri could play a bigger role on deciding the fate of the region.
simbe11,

The region has witnessed the extent of the extra ordinary fraternity of Eritrean/Ethiopian population during the two leaders visits of each others country. The two leaders should take advantage of that spirit.

We have already learned Eritrea can punch above its weight in creating havoc in internal affairs of Ethiopia. The same with Ethiopia isolating Eritrea in the world forums etc. So we don't expect "insanity" from the two governments to repeat the old conflict anymore. Furthermore, I don't think the two people will allow anymore fighting for land because of the unpleasant experiences learnt.

Eritrean opposition or TPLF can't be in direct opposition to that spirit of tenderness of the two people therefore, the two governments can live without interfering in each others internal affairs from these days forward, proceed with all people to people, trade cooperation including setting up an Ethiopian Navy in one of Eritrean Sea ports.

Cheers!

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Post by Revelations » 15 Mar 2019, 06:01

France and Ethiopia sign defense agreement

Along with the President of the French Republic, the Minister of Defense went to Ethiopia. This visit marks a historic turning point in the two countries' defense relations. On this occasion, Florence Parly met with her Ethiopian counterpart, Aisha Mohammed, to strengthen military cooperation.

An intergovernmental agreement was signed by the two defense ministers. In particular, it devotes support from France to the preparation for peacekeeping operations in which Ethiopia is very committed, particularly in Somalia. In concrete terms, this agreement provides for French forces stationed in Djibouti to travel to Ethiopia to conduct joint training and exercises. A letter of intent was also signed for the establishment of an Ethiopian naval component with the support of France.

This trip was an opportunity for the Minister of Defense to meet the French detachment stationed in Addis Abeba, the Ethiopian capital. Florence Parly praised their commitment and reminded them of the importance of their mission to a key partner for France in East Africa.

Earlier, in Djibouti, the French minister had met with her counterpart, Ali Hassan Bahdon, to consolidate the cooperation that has been binding on the two armies for more than 40 years. With the presidential delegation, the Minister of Defense then went to the French air base to meet the French forces. Prepositioned at the tip of the horn of Africa, these constitute the pivot of the French military deployment in the region and its capacity of reaction in this zone.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/march_2 ... ement.html

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Post by Zmeselo » 15 Mar 2019, 07:38



Emmanuel Macron visits E.Africa in effort to counter China expansion

French President due to meet African Union leaders before historic trip to Kenya.



French President Emmanuel Macron is welcomed by Djibouti's Ismail Omar Guelleh upon his arrival at Djibouti's airport on March 11, 2019, at the start of his trip to eastern Africa. PHOTO | LUDOVIC MARIN | POOL | AFP

By AFP

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Macron-on ... ssion=true

In Summary

• In Djibouti, President Macron pledged a "respectful" partnership in the face of growing African indebtedness to China, which is fast expanding its foothold on the continent.

•On Wednesday, he will meet leaders of the African Union before making the first-ever trip to Kenya by a French president.

• On Thursday, he will attend the One Planet Summit in Nairobi on reversing climate change.

• Rwanda meanwhile has invited Macron to attend the 25th anniversary of the country's 1994 genocide that killed some 800,000 of its citizens.
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LALIBELA,

President Emmanuel Macron visited former French colony Djibouti on Tuesday with promises of a "respectful" partnership in the face of growing African indebtedness to China, which is fast expanding its foothold on the continent.

Both Paris and Beijing -- as well as Japan and the United States -- have military bases in East Africa's smallest country due to its strategic location along a key shipping lane leading to the Suez Canal.

President Macron described Djibouti, the last colony to gain independence from France -- in 1977 -- as a "historical partner and strategic ally", and "the point of entry" to the Horn of Africa region.

Its geographic importance forms the foundation of Djibouti's hopes of becoming a major trading hub.

Two years ago, it inaugurated its newest and biggest port -- part of an infrastructure expansion, partly funded by China, that includes three other ports and a railroad to the capital of landlocked Ethiopia.

'NEW DUBAI'

Djibouti President Ismail Omar Guelleh's administration hopes to turn the country into a "new Dubai" competing for business with overcrowded African ports such as Mombasa in Kenya.

Sandwiched between Ethiopia, Somalia and Eritrea, tiny Djibouti is a crucial part of Beijing's "Belt and Road" global infrastructure initiative along what has been dubbed the "Maritime Silk Road".

It allows China to reach Africa and Europe via the Indian Ocean.

The project has seen Beijing lend developing countries in Asia and Africa huge amounts of money to develop infrastructure and ease trade.

PUBLIC DEBT

But the International Monetary Fund has sounded the alarm over an increase of Djibouti's public debt from 50 percent of GDP in 2014 to 85 percent in 2017.

The US-based China Africa Research Initiative in 2017 estimated Djibouti's debt to China at some $1.3 billion.

"I would not want international investments to weaken the sovereignty of our partners," Mr Macron said Tuesday, in a reference to China's growing African presence.

"French companies are able to offer a respectful partnership," the President added.

President Guelleh, who described himself as "a great friend of China" when he visited President Xi Jinping in 2017, told Macron: "There are opportunities for French companies, particularly in the field of infrastructure.

"Our country is open, I have not lost hope that France can boost its investments in Djibouti."

ETHIOPIA'S CASE

Later Tuesday, Mr Macron visited the remote Ethiopian town of Lalibela with its renowned 13th-century church complex, a Unesco World Heritage site.

He promised to "finance and assist the work with the Ethiopians to restore these churches", threatened by erosion and temporarily covered by vast metal-and-tarpaulin structures much hated by locals.

Mr Macron is scheduled to attend a state dinner in Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa. On Wednesday, he will meet leaders of the African Union before making the first-ever trip to Kenya by a French president.

On Thursday, he will attend the One Planet Summit in Nairobi on reversing climate change.

Rwanda meanwhile has invited Macron to attend the 25th anniversary of the country's 1994 genocide that killed some 800,000 of its citizens.

Rwandan authorities have long accused France of complicity in the massacre. Macron has not indicated whether he will attend the event on April 7 in the capital Kigali.

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Post by Abdisa » 15 Mar 2019, 08:02

What's there to celebrate? :roll:

It was desperation that led the cash-strapped Abiy's government to land face first in France's lap. At the same time, France, having relatively limited natural resources, and facing credible accusations of exploiting it's former African colonies, it desperately needs a soft-hearted African ally to help it secure a clean image while pursuing its neo-colonial policies in Africa, and what African country would be better suited to provide such a feel-good moment for the French than the floozy-woozy "never colonized" Ethiopia!

The other important thing to consider is the ongoing violent protests by French workers demanding higher minimum wage, which has threatened to destabilize the country's economy, that put tremendous pressure on Macron's government to urgently seek alternative revenue sources in other parts of Africa, however using less ambiguous methods to silence the critics, such as a "defense pact," for example, to meet the protesters' demands through outright exploitation of the most vulnerable East African country.

Again, what's there to celebrate? :roll:

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