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AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Horus » 11 Jan 2019, 10:43


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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Horus » 12 Jan 2019, 20:47

Today, Ethiopia exists as a nation because a few good men and women stood firm to defend her existence. That is AG7. AG7 is raising fund to build the new party and that is priceless. Ethipiawinet Lezelalem Yinur !!!

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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by yaballo » 12 Jan 2019, 21:29

Horus,

Do you have the name of artists who will take part in this mega concert? What about the type of songs chosen? Remember: there are about 80 tribes that make-up Ethiopia & concert organisers must be careful what songs to choose not to be accused of favouritism, discrimination, equating Ethiopianess with Habeshaness, etc. Thanks. A song suggestion for the concert.

video/song: Tamirat Assefa - Sawa Konso - New Ethiopian Music 2018 (Official Video). Enjoy!


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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Revelations » 12 Jan 2019, 21:53

ኢትዮጵያዊ ነኝ ካልኩ እንደ ኢትዮጵያዊ ይገባኛል የምለው መሰረታዊ ነጻነት አለ። ያንን ካላገኘሁ ኢትዮጵያዊ አይደለሁም።
ፕሮፌ. ብርሃኑ ነጋ

https://www.bbc.com/amharic/news-46691336

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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Revelations » 12 Jan 2019, 22:04

የምፈልገውን ካልሰጠችኝ
ኢትዮጵያዊ አትበሉኝ
ለኢትዮጵያም ንገሩልኝ
ልጄ ነው ብላ እንዳትጠራኝ::

ከሰጠኝ የምወዳጅ
ላጎረሰኝ አጎብዳጅ
ብርሃኑ ነኝ የነጋ ልጅ!

ልጄ አትበለኝ ልጅ ትፈልግ
ጎድሎባት የሚወዳት
ከሰጠችኝ ግን ልጇ ነኝ
አስበልጬ የምወዳት!

Revelations wrote:
12 Jan 2019, 21:53
ኢትዮጵያዊ ነኝ ካልኩ እንደ ኢትዮጵያዊ ይገባኛል የምለው መሰረታዊ ነጻነት አለ። ያንን ካላገኘሁ ኢትዮጵያዊ አይደለሁም።
ፕሮፌ. ብርሃኑ ነጋ

https://www.bbc.com/amharic/news-46691336

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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Maxi » 12 Jan 2019, 22:16

Revelations wrote:
12 Jan 2019, 21:53
ኢትዮጵያዊ ነኝ ካልኩ እንደ ኢትዮጵያዊ ይገባኛል የምለው መሰረታዊ ነጻነት አለ። ያንን ካላገኘሁ ኢትዮጵያዊ አይደለሁም።
ፕሮፌ. ብርሃኑ ነጋ

https://www.bbc.com/amharic/news-46691336
Basically Dr Berhanu is saying "I am Ethiopian only on conditions" if those conditions are not met I am not an Ethiopia.

This summed up the character of this person!!!

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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Horus » 13 Jan 2019, 02:26

Yaballo,
This is why we need freedom and democracy. Ethiopians like everybody else are born of specific tribes but what is great and glorious about Ethiopia is not that she has 100 tribes but 110 million beautiful human being. Ethiopia has no problem with tribes and languages but Ethiopia greater, greater than the sum of 100 tribes. When the majority of these 110 million demand to be Ethiopians, no tribe can stop us from being human Ethiopians. Beqa.

If a musical artist wants to celebrate Ethiopia, he surely not accepted but praised. If he chooses not to be Ethiopian, that is his business but it is not only arrogant also stupid trying to tell us how we must identify ourselves !!

Ethiopia Lezelalem Tinur !!

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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Dawi » 13 Jan 2019, 05:59

Horus wrote:
13 Jan 2019, 02:26
If a musical artist wants to celebrate Ethiopia, he surely not accepted but praised. If he chooses not to be Ethiopian, that is his business but it is not only arrogant also stupid trying to tell us how we must identify ourselves !!

Ethiopia Lezelalem Tinur !!
Good point!

The following singers are AA University students I heard. 8) ቅጂው! ከፍቅር ላይ ቅጂው!! ፀበል እንዲሆነው "ዐቢሽ" ለችግሩ! ሃሃ! ተመችቶኛል!!




Horus wrote:
13 Jan 2019, 02:26
Yaballo,
This is why we need freedom and democracy. Ethiopians like everybody else are born of specific tribes but what is great and glorious about Ethiopia is not that she has 100 tribes but 110 million beautiful human being. Ethiopia has no problem with tribes and languages but Ethiopia greater, greater than the sum of 100 tribes. When the majority of these 110 million demand to be Ethiopians, no tribe can stop us from being human Ethiopians. Beqa.

If a musical artist wants to celebrate Ethiopia, he surely not accepted but praised. If he chooses not to be Ethiopian, that is his business but it is not only arrogant also stupid trying to tell us how we must identify ourselves !!

Ethiopia Lezelalem Tinur !!
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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Masud » 13 Jan 2019, 06:13

The Opportunist Dr. BirrAmtu knows how to milk stup!d individuals. He targeted the Epiphany holiday and organized this concer to milk stup!ds and be the boss on them.
Since this program is undermining the Christian Holiday of Epiphany, all Christian must boycott this concert.



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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Dawi » 13 Jan 2019, 06:54

Masud wrote:
13 Jan 2019, 06:13
The Opportunist Dr. BirrAmtu knows how to milk stup!d individuals. He targeted the Epiphany holiday and organized this concer to milk stup!ds and be the boss on them.
Since this program is undermining the Christian Holiday of Epiphany, all Christian must boycott this concert.


Masud - Stupid is as stupid does!

No wonder that what is stupid is defined by those who are stupid.

I don't mean it in a bad way. :P

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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by yaballo » 13 Jan 2019, 07:07

Horus: Ethiopia has no problem with tribes and languages but Ethiopia greater, greater than the sum of 100 tribes.
Horus,

Really? No! Ethiopia has had & still has SERIOUS problems with the way it ranks & mistreats its tribes & languages. This issue remains at the centre of the so called 'nationalities question' that led to never-ending wars & political crises that made Ethiopia one of the worst countries to live-in according to a recent UN report.

For example, Woyane-ism was a type of ethnic apartheid system of Ethiopia that puts the 'golden tribe' at the top of the ethnic heap in Ethiopia & the rest under their feet. Before that, we had an ethnic apartheid system of the Amhara kings+emperors that put the Amhara tribe & culture at the top of the ethnic heap & the rest as the tribes to serve their barefooted feudal lordships. Before that ... Hence, ethnic rankings & ethnic apartheid system has been the very foundation of the state, rather, empire of Ethiopia. :idea:

What songs one plays at a concert that ostensibly celebrates 'Ethiopianess' is a fundamental political question/issue in today's Ethiopia where issues of respecting tribal/ethnic identities are at the very centre of all political dramas - and wars.

The list of songs chosen for a concert that, in theory, celebrate a 'pan Ethiopian identity' must be something that the organisers should take seriously & try to lean from other multi-ethnic countries such as India, Belgium, Kenya, etc.
Dawi: The following singers are AA University students I heard. 8) ቅጂው! ከፍቅር ላይ ቅጂው!! ፀበል እንዲሆነው "ዐቢሽ" ለችግሩ! ሃሃ! ተመችቶኛል!!
Dawi,

I can see that the singer made an effort to include a TOKEN southern Ethiopian - a sole shankilla lady - among those gathered to celebrate his notion of 'Ethiopianess'.

But, he forgot one very important criteria in trying to depict an Ethiopia that is struggling to be inclusive of all its tribes, cultures, languages, etc. Can you guess what? ... Hint: note that the ceremonies/rituals shown in the clip give the impression that Ethiopia is very much a country of orthodox christians.

Now, what religion do 55%+ of Ethiopians follow today? ... Yes! Good boy! ISLAM & its followers are easily identifiable through their distinctive clothing, etc. Hence, the song & clip shows that, unfortunately, our habesha Ethiopian brothers have a long ... long way to go to develop a genuine sense of inclusiveness. 8)

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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Horus » 13 Jan 2019, 09:49

AG7 has no need for support of the likesof vmaxireveloyaballo jumble Jj!!


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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Ethoash » 13 Jan 2019, 11:17

Dawi wrote:
13 Jan 2019, 05:59
Horus wrote:
13 Jan 2019, 02:26
If a musical artist wants to celebrate Ethiopia, he surely not accepted but praised. If he chooses not to be Ethiopian, that is his business but it is not only arrogant also stupid trying to tell us how we must identify ourselves !!

Ethiopia Lezelalem Tinur !!
dawit,
u cant hoodwink 80 ethnic no more if u said Ethiopia then u have to include all tribe or give them equal time.. if u give 3 minute for each of them all u need is four hours. if u have only one hourse them the dancer will be mix from 8 ethnic in just ten song u would have shown all ethnic. not only that they call say greeting in 80 language ... this is the bast platform that ዝና የሚመሰረትበት እና ከሕዝብ ጋራ የምትተዋወቅበት መድረክ...those undermined ethnic see one of their own on tv they feel included, they feel they also can make it in Ethiopia fair system



The following singers are AA University students I heard. 8) ቅጂው! ከፍቅር ላይ ቅጂው!! ፀበል እንዲሆነው "ዐቢሽ" ለችግሩ! ሃሃ! ተመችቶኛል!!


my answer is those kid should not copy .. minority culture that is why they learn Cultural appropriation

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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by Dawi » 13 Jan 2019, 16:04

Ethoash wrote:
13 Jan 2019, 11:17
dawit,
u cant hoodwink 80 ethnic no more if u said Ethiopia then u have to include all tribe or give them equal time.. if u give 3 minute for each of them all u need is four hours. if u have only one hourse them the dancer will be mix from 8 ethnic in just ten song u would have shown all ethnic. not only that they call say greeting in 80 language ... this is the bast platform that ዝና የሚመሰረትበት እና ከሕዝብ ጋራ የምትተዋወቅበት መድረክ...those undermined ethnic see one of their own on tv they feel included, they feel they also can make it in Ethiopi
Ethoash/Masud,

You guys want some blurry stuff by "affirmative action" dictatorial music. Who want to listen/watch that?

Music maybe better to be left alone to the artist. Dictating will not bring quality in music, I don't think. Look at Black America leading in that area by creativity despite their being low in numbers. Other groups besides the ones I posted can introduce new to be embraced by all. Southern state is actually the new sensation taking and influencing the center stage in Ethiopia & some blending with Amharic.

Check the following out! Let the best man in music win the center stage & the rest preserved by cultural centers & museums of the country! በቃ!


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Re: AG7 & Ethiopianism

Post by yaballo » 13 Jan 2019, 17:47

Horu-huddu-uraa 8) ,

Oooh!... and we care what the same old loud-mouthed, exceedingly selfish but irrelevant ጉዳንጉድ ጉደላዎች/gudangud gudeelas say about us! Tisicha afaan shamaa.

video/music from the lovely Jimma Abba Jifar...




Horus wrote:
13 Jan 2019, 09:49
AG7 has no need for support of the likesof vmaxireveloyaballo jumble Jj!!


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