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Maxi
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የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Maxi » 09 Jan 2019, 23:15

የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?


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Re: በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Revelations » 09 Jan 2019, 23:28

ዝምታ ወርቅ በሚሆንበት ሰአት ብዙ መቀባጠር ሌላ ተልእኮ መኖሩን ያጋልጣል:: የሆነውን በሚመለከት አስቸኳይ ምርመራ ያስፈልጋል:: መከላከያ የግል የሕወሃት ኩባንያ ጠባቂነቱ መቼ ነው የሚያቆመው?! ኢሳትም የፖለቲካ ሽርሙጥናው ሊተው ይችላል ወይ? "እናቲቱን አይተህ ልጅቷን አግባ" ይሏል አበው:: የ ኢሳት እናትም ግንቦት ሰባት ናት!

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Re: በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Maxi » 09 Jan 2019, 23:30

Revelations wrote:
09 Jan 2019, 23:28
ዝምታ ወርቅ በሚሆንበት ሰአት ብዙ መቀባጠር ሌላ ተልእኮ መኖሩን ያጋልጣል:: የሆነውን በሚመለከት አስቸኳይ ምርመራ ያስፈልጋል:: መከላከያ የግል የሕወሃት ኩባንያ ጠባቂነቱ መቼ ነው የሚያቆመው?! ኢሳትም የፖለቲካ ሽርሙጥናው ሊተው ይችላል ወይ? "እናቲቱን አይተህ ልጅቷን አግባ" ይሏል አበው:: የ ኢሳት እናትም ግንቦት ሰባት ናት!

እኔን እየገረመኝ ያለው የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛ በማያገባው ጉዳይ ገብቶ የመከላከያ ሚኒስቴር ቃል አቀባይ መሆኑ ነው!! አወቅሽ አወቅሽ ቢሏት .... ሆነ እኮ ነገሩ!!!!

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 09 Jan 2019, 23:59

The general is contradicting himself. He points out the blame to a different group and yet claimes to investigate to find the truth. General B...it is sad reality that you all still have that servitude attitude to TPLF and keep piling up the poor amhara corpses. I have no doubt that justice will eventually be served by the amharas themselves who still are at the receiving end if the brunt of the Tplf led governments brutality. Something has to be done very quick.

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Ethoash » 10 Jan 2019, 03:35

what ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጀላ saying is very simple and clean

in golden region ሕዝብ መከላክያ አይወጣብን በማለት መንግድ ዘጉ ። ይህ ማለት የፍቅር ነው መንገድ መዝጋቲ
የቡዳ ጎንደሬ ጉዳይ ደግሞ ካልዘረፍኩ ነው ። እንቢ ሲባሉ ደግሞ መከላከያ ከሀገር ይውጣልን ብለው መንገድ ዘግተው ጥላቻቸውን ነዙት፣ ታድያ ምን አርጉ ቱሉታላቹህ መከላያ በፍቅር ፤አትሂዱብን ለሚል ሕዝብ በፍቅር ወለታቸውን ለመመለሰ ነቀር ። በሌላ በኩል ክብር የማይወድላችውን ቡዳዎችን ልካችውን ቢይስገባቸው ምኑ ነወ ችግሩ።

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Dawi » 10 Jan 2019, 04:27

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
09 Jan 2019, 23:59
I have no doubt that justice will eventually be served by the amharas themselves who still are at the receiving end if the brunt of the Tplf led governments brutality. Something has to be done very quick.
SUR Construction established in 1992 under EFFORT Investment Center is the largest and leading local construction company in Ethiopia which has been massively involved in the construction of all kinds of Civil Engineering Construction works comprising but not limited to all types of Roads, Universities, Commercial and Social ...

The "amharas" that were killed have beef with SUR/EFFORT and were trying to nationalize SUR construction equipment from leaving. The military has been given the order to protect SUR movement as the General pointed out contrary to Messay/ESAT's opinion. Menalachew's/ESAT argument was proven right.

There has been complaints from Woyane & others in regards of the right of movements of people and their property through Amara state towards Tigray; they have been taking long routes or detained on the way. The complainers include EFFORT & its associated companies.

Having said that, it is public knowledge that EFFORT activities are questionable; just like METEC, the FED is going to investigate it sooner or later. Their shall be fall out.

Folks can only demand a speedy investigation of EFFORT by the government however, can not take justice in their own hands.

The bottom line is, Abiy's government have too many things in their hands; ADP understood that and are caught lips sealed.

What is ABN stand on this? G7 won't be different from ADP.

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Revelations » 10 Jan 2019, 06:11

Uninformed woyane cadres trying to appear intellectually competent always put their feet in their mouths. At least check the news from different sources before you open your mouth just so you can continue to pretend to be informed while still twisting the facts. And who cares about the dead g7 but you.
Dawi wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 04:27


SUR Construction established in 1992 under EFFORT Investment Center is the largest and leading local construction company in Ethiopia which has been massively involved in the construction of all kinds of Civil Engineering Construction works comprising but not limited to all types of Roads, Universities, Commercial and Social ...

The "amharas" that were killed have beef with SUR/EFFORT and were trying to nationalize SUR construction equipment from leaving. The military has been given the order to protect SUR movement as the General pointed out contrary to Messay/ESAT's opinion. Menalachew's/ESAT argument was proven right.

There has been complaints from Woyane & others in regards of the right of movements of people and their property through Amara state towards Tigray; they have been taking long routes or detained on the way. The complainers include EFFORT & its associated companies.

Having said that, it is public knowledge that EFFORT activities are questionable; just like METEC, the FED is going to investigate it sooner or later. Their shall be fall out.

Folks can only demand a speedy investigation of EFFORT by the government however, can not take justice in their own hands.

The bottom line is, Abiy's government have too many things in their hands; ADP understood that and are caught lips sealed.

What is ABN stand on this? G7 won't be different from ADP.

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Revelations » 10 Jan 2019, 06:32

በምዕራብ ጎንደር ዞን በተከሰተ የጸጥታ ችግር የሰዎች ህይዎት አልፋል፡፡


ችግሩ የተከሰተው በዞኑ ‹ገንደ ውኃ› እና ‹ኮኪት› በተባሉ ከተሞች ነው፡፡ ለሰዎች ሕይዎት ህልፈት እና ለአካል ጉዳት ምክንያት የሆነው በመከላከያ ሰራዊት አባላትና በአካባቢው ነዋሪዎች መካከል የተፈጠረ አለመግባባት መሆኑን የምዕራብ ጎንደር ዞን ምክትል አሥተዳዳሪና የማህበራዊ ልማት መምሪያ ኃላፊ አቶ አደባባይ ሙሉጌታ ለአብመድ ገልጸዋል፡፡

ግጭቱ የተከሰተው ደግሞ ‹‹ሱር ኮንስትራክሽን›› የተባለ የመንገድ ሥራ ድርጅት ‹ከአይከል -ዙፋን› ሲሰራው የነበረውን የመንገድ ሥራ አቋርጦ ምዕራብ አርማጭሆ ወረዳን ከመተማ ወረዳ ‹ኮኪት› ከተማ የሚያገናኘውን መንገድ ለመስራት ተሸከርካሪዎችንና የግንባታ ቁሳቁስ በማጓጓዝ ላይ እያለ ነው ብለዋል አቶ አደባባይ፡፡

ይህ የሆነውም ህብረተሰቡ ‹‹ሱር ኮንስትራክሽን›› የተባለው የመንገድ ሥራ ድርጅት ለአካባቢው ሰላም እጦት ምክንያት ነው ብሎ ስለሚያምንና ተገቢው ፍተሻ ሳይደረግ አከባቢውን ለቆ መውጣት እንደሌለበት ስለጠየቀ ነው፡፡ ‹ተሽከርካሪዎች እና የግንባታ ቁሳቁሱ እንዴት በሰላም ማለፍ እንደሚችሉ የመከላከያ ሰራዊት አባላት፣የዞኑ አመራሮችና የህብረተሰብ ተወካዮች በ30/04/2011 ዓ/ም ከረፋዱ 4፡00 አካባቢ ተወያይተው እንደነበረም ታውቋል፡፡

ተሽከርካሪዎቹ እየተፈተሹ በሰላም ወደ ሌላው የመንገድ ግንባታ ፕሮጀክት እንዲያልፉ የዞኑ የሥራ ኃላፊዎች እና የህብረተሰቡ ተወካዮች ህብረተሰቡን እንዲያወያዩም ኃላፊነት ወስደው ነበር፡፡ ይህ ስምምነት በሂደት ላይ እያለ በዕለቱ ከቀኑ 9፡00 አካባቢ ‹‹የሱር ኮንስትራክሽን›› ተሽከርካሪዎች ‹መቃ› ከተሰኘ ቦታ ተነስተው ገንደ ውኃ ከተማ ሲደርሱ ነው ግጭቱ የተፈጠረው ብለዋል ምክትል አስተዳዳሪው፡፡

ህብረተሰቡን ለማወያየት ኃላፊነት የወሰዱት አካላት ውይይቱን ሳያጠናቅቁ የመከላከያ ሰራዊት አባላት ተሽከርካሪዎቹን ለማሳለፍ መሞከራቸው ነው ግጭቱን ያስነሳው ተብሏል፡፡ በዚህም በመከላከያ ሰራዊት አባላት እና በነዋሪዎች መካከል የተኩስ ልዉዉጥ ተደርጎ ከአካባቢው ነዋሪዎችና ከመከላከያ ሰራዊት አባላት ሕይዎት አልፏል፤አካልም ጎድሏል፡፡

ዛሬ ምሽት ላይ ደግሞ ‹ኮኪት› ከተማ ላይ የነበሩ 43 ተሸከርካሪዎች ተፈትሸው ወደ ገንደ ውኃ ከተማ ተመልሰዋል፡፡

የአማራ ክልል የመንግስት ኮሚዩኒኬሽን ጉዳዮች ጽህፈት ቤት ዋና ዳይሬክተር አቶ አሰማኸኝ አስረስ ስለጉዳዩ በሰጡት መረጃ ጉዳዩን በውይይት መፍታት ተገቢ እንደነበር ነው የተናገሩት፡፡ መንግሥት አጥፊዎችን አጣርቶ ለህግ እንደሚቀርብም አስታውቀዋል፡፡ በሰዎች ህይዎት መጥፋትም የክልሉ መንግሥት የተሰማውን ሀዘን ገልጸዋል፡፡

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Ethoash » 10 Jan 2019, 15:03

reall bull,

u r incriminating uyself
read what ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጀላ saying ..‹ሱር ኮንስትራክሽን have right protected against unlawful search and seizure

Definition. An unreasonable search and seizure is a search and seizure by a law enforcement officer without a search warrant and without probable cause to believe that evidence of a crime is present.

Probable cause may be demonstrated by live, sworn testimony or by affidavit. More importantly,

Illegal search and seizure by the police in conflict with the 4th Amendment may give you the right to sue the police for damages. ... According to federal law, though, you can also receive money damages, and even have your attorney's fees paid, if you are the victim of an illegal search and seizure.

based on the above definition no hooligan have the right to do search and seizure ..only the police might do it..even then the police need warrant

now if the people have reasonable suspicion that ‹ሱር ኮንስትራክሽን smuggling guns.. that is fine those u brought the charge must give their name and give their own sworn testimony that means once ሱር ኮንስትራክሽን no guns found they should pay damage (the hooligan)

wise reabull, telling us already the hooligan did unreasonable search and seizure on 42 track they didnt find guns so why u think another gun ...

any how the hooligan might say ‹ሱር ኮንስትራክሽን running away without paying their ill or finishing what they start...this is civil cases police cant get involve go to court and sue ሱር ኮንስትራክሽን.

another thing why the hooligan had gun in the first place and killed fed ...those criminal must be hunted

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Dawi » 10 Jan 2019, 16:33

Rev,

At least this "Woyane cadre's" had put some facts together to arrive to a conclusion. I didn't just copy and paste. BTW, you didn't add anything spectacular since then, except some details of the incident describing the "hooligans" activity against order, that was what created the mess . My view still stands.

Why do we go in circles? Those armed groups want to punish Woyane/EFFORT and prefer to carry the law in their own hands. Vigilante justice is their preferred choice if allowed.

They put ADP/ODP in precarious situation. The patience of the government is running out as it did with OLF. Closing the road towards Tigray is something the FED can't look the other way indefinitely. There are citizens in Tigray who need legitimate access of roads. If that indicates to you being a Woyane cadre so be it.

BTW, G7 is a supporter of the government from their many announcements so, saying their stand won't be different from ADP is accurate. On the other hand, ABN, who knows? They may say something confusing and blame the poor reporter for repeating it; that was why I was curious.
Revelations wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 06:11
Uninformed woyane cadres trying to appear intellectually competent always put their feet in their mouths. At least check the news from different sources before you open your mouth just so you can continue to pretend to be informed while still twisting the facts. And who cares about the dead g7 but you.
Dawi wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 04:27


SUR Construction established in 1992 under EFFORT Investment Center is the largest and leading local construction company in Ethiopia which has been massively involved in the construction of all kinds of Civil Engineering Construction works comprising but not limited to all types of Roads, Universities, Commercial and Social ...

The "amharas" that were killed have beef with SUR/EFFORT and were trying to nationalize SUR construction equipment from leaving. The military has been given the order to protect SUR movement as the General pointed out contrary to Messay/ESAT's opinion. Menalachew's/ESAT argument was proven right.

There has been complaints from Woyane & others in regards of the right of movements of people and their property through Amara state towards Tigray; they have been taking long routes or detained on the way. The complainers include EFFORT & its associated companies.

Having said that, it is public knowledge that EFFORT activities are questionable; just like METEC, the FED is going to investigate it sooner or later. Their shall be fall out.

Folks can only demand a speedy investigation of EFFORT by the government however, can not take justice in their own hands.

The bottom line is, Abiy's government have too many things in their hands; ADP understood that and are caught lips sealed.

What is ABN stand on this? G7 won't be different from ADP.

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Maxi » 10 Jan 2019, 16:45

እነደ አብይ ምክትል ጠቅላይ የተማጆር ሹም ጀንራል ብርሃሉ ዱላ አባባል የጎንደር አማራ ህዝብ እና መካላከያ ሰራዊ የገደላቸው ሰዎች "የአማራ ህዝብ" ሳይሆኑ ሌላ ቡድኖች ናቸው!! ይህን ያክል ዘረኛ የጦር ጀንራል እንዴት የአገረ መከላከያ አዛዥ ሊሆን ቻለ??? አዳምጡት ይህ ጀንራል ተብዬ የሚለውን!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Post by Revelations » 10 Jan 2019, 16:45

You think? 😂 Writing too long of a blabber isn't a sign of intelligence at all. Make it short and to the point. And you can stand by or stand on whatever you want but the facts are coming out and your predictions have proved absolutely wrong. Sit back and watch for more revelations!
Dawi wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 16:33
Rev,

At least this "Woyane cadre's" had put some facts together to arrive to a conclusion. I didn't just copy and paste. BTW, you didn't add anything spectacular since then, except some details of the incident describing the "hooligans" activity against order, that was what created the mess . My view still stands.

Why do we go in circles? Those armed groups want to punish Woyane/EFFORT and prefer to carry the law in their own hands. Vigilante justice is their preferred choice if allowed.

They put ADP/ODP in precarious situation. The patience of the government is running out as it did with OLF. Closing the road towards Tigray is something the FED can't look the other way indefinitely. There are citizens in Tigray who need legitimate access of roads. If that indicates to you being a Woyane cadre so be it.

BTW, G7 is a supporter of the government from their many announcements so, saying their stand won't be different from ADP is accurate. On the other hand, ABN, who knows? They may say something confusing and blame the poor reporter for repeating it; that was why I was curious.
Revelations wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 06:11
Uninformed woyane cadres trying to appear intellectually competent always put their feet in their mouths. At least check the news from different sources before you open your mouth just so you can continue to pretend to be informed while still twisting the facts. And who cares about the dead g7 but you.
Dawi wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 04:27


SUR Construction established in 1992 under EFFORT Investment Center is the largest and leading local construction company in Ethiopia which has been massively involved in the construction of all kinds of Civil Engineering Construction works comprising but not limited to all types of Roads, Universities, Commercial and Social ...

The "amharas" that were killed have beef with SUR/EFFORT and were trying to nationalize SUR construction equipment from leaving. The military has been given the order to protect SUR movement as the General pointed out contrary to Messay/ESAT's opinion. Menalachew's/ESAT argument was proven right.

There has been complaints from Woyane & others in regards of the right of movements of people and their property through Amara state towards Tigray; they have been taking long routes or detained on the way. The complainers include EFFORT & its associated companies.

Having said that, it is public knowledge that EFFORT activities are questionable; just like METEC, the FED is going to investigate it sooner or later. Their shall be fall out.

Folks can only demand a speedy investigation of EFFORT by the government however, can not take justice in their own hands.

The bottom line is, Abiy's government have too many things in their hands; ADP understood that and are caught lips sealed.

What is ABN stand on this? G7 won't be different from ADP.

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Re: የኢሳት ጋዜጠኛና መሳይ መኮነንና ጀነራል ብርሃኑ ጁላ በጎንደር ገንደ ውሃና ኮኪት በአማራ ህዝብ ላይ ስለተፈጸመው ጭፍጨፋ የአማራ ህዝብ ምን እያሉ ነው?

Post by Ethoash » 10 Jan 2019, 19:30

Revelations wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 16:45
You think? 😂 Writing too long of a blabber isn't a sign of intelligence at all. Make it short and to the point. And you can stand by or stand on whatever you want but the facts are coming out and your predictions have proved absolutely wrong. Sit back and watch for more revelations!
Dawi wrote:
10 Jan 2019, 16:33
Rev,

I, Make it short and to the point.

unreasonable search and seizure

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