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Only A Radical National Uprising Can Force Woyane Tigray Military Dictatorship to Exit --- All Else Is Political Foolishness !! EPRDF Cannot Be Reformed !!

Post by Horus » 18 Feb 2018, 00:55

OPDO, ANDM, the Zoombie SPNPDO and all other dreamers of TPLF and EPRDF turning democratic by means of miracle will wake up to very very rude reality. When all the drama settles down, it will be the revolutionary uprisings of the Ethiopian people can remove Woyane and bring democracy to Ethiopia. This is not a bad news. This is the real news.

If all of the anti-tplf forces within OPDO, ANDM and South must call for a Transitional regime and demand the disbanding of EPRDF as it exist now. Or else they will all lose the battle ...

Now listen to these facts.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjibRZZVckI

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Post by MRed » 18 Feb 2018, 13:20

EPRDF can't reformed off-course but you're an idiot Horus. EPRDF is a party made up of four parties, it isn't one party. OPDO can be reformed and has been reformed but the other 2 garbage parties can't. SEPDM will never be reformed and ANMD will never be reformed.


In other words, EPRDF can never be reformed but I have no problem. I don't care about SEPDM or ANDM.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Dawi » 18 Feb 2018, 13:45

Horus,

Just think of what happened in Chile a long time ago. What about Egypt?

A national uprising took place in both places and forced "democracy" just like you're suggesting.

Egypt's Mohamed Mursi and Chile's Salvador Allende made a military coup after the "democratic election" and the rest is history.

I think what you call "Political Foolishness" is the only way to go. A short cut is going to bring you a ready made bonafide dictatorship that parallels Egypt.
Horus wrote:OPDO, ANDM, the Zoombie SPNPDO and all other dreamers of TPLF and EPRDF turning democratic by means of miracle will wake up to very very rude reality. When all the drama settles down, it will be the revolutionary uprisings of the Ethiopian people can remove Woyane and bring democracy to Ethiopia. This is not a bad news. This is the real news.

If all of the anti-tplf forces within OPDO, ANDM and South must call for a Transitional regime and demand the disbanding of EPRDF as it exist now. Or else they will all lose the battle ...

Now listen to these facts.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjibRZZVckI

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Post by Horus » 18 Feb 2018, 13:48

MRed,

Save the insult and tell us exactly what was reformed from what? You can't defend your desire by anger!

I said EPRDF can not be reformed because all the tribal organizations you listed are nothing but tribal organizations. From what OPDO reforms to what?

Ethiopia needs a multiethnic Ethiopian party with an Ethiopian non-tribal vision. What you have now is power struggle among various tribal outfits.

The only reform that makes sense and that is not stupid is one that moves Ethiopia out of tribal politics and get rid of TRIBAL FEDERALISM.

Remember, power means the ability to do or the ability to refuse.

EPRDF can't be both the oppressor and the liberator at the same time.

If OPDO want to reform, it must demand the dissolution of EPRDF and lead the opposition (ability to refuse).

OPDO will not have the power to do as long as Tigrays hold military power.

Lemma should put all of his effort on opposing TPLF and Refusing to be ruled rather than trying to become PM and turn into a contradiction by being both oppressor and liberator.

Power struggle amongst tribal power seekers is a game the people are not going to die for because it is the motive, stupid!!!

Dawi,

Popular uprising is not a short cut, it is a long journey. It is the only school the people have for democratic education when they are denied freedom by dictators and oppressors. The lesson of Chile is that people should have defended their revolution from military take over. The same way Ethiopia needs leaders who arouse the people in action against the Tigray military dictatorship. Only fools will sit wait for a democratic miracle woyane oppressors.
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Post by BigBreak » 18 Feb 2018, 13:56

the eprdf, its allies and ethnic federalism needs to be thrown out. ethiopia needs to become an indivisible country that forbids secession and also become a liberal, secular democracy that bans mixing ethnicity and politics

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Post by Kara » 18 Feb 2018, 14:04

BigBreak wrote:the eprdf, its allies and ethnic federalism needs to be thrown out. ethiopia needs to become an indivisible country that forbids secession and also become a liberal, secular democracy that bans mixing ethnicity and politics
Amen! that is what the youth must fight for...

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Post by Amara Sayint » 18 Feb 2018, 14:09

The question remains, however, how can you convince people like OPFist, who wants to transform mama Ethiopia "to de facto Great Oromia of Leencoo Lataa" ?

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Post by Degnet » 18 Feb 2018, 14:14

Yes,this is the question,are other Ethiopians free in those areas,can you learn Afan Oromo in a year time?Is is easy to bring it back to the pre Haileslassie time.Why is it imposible to improve it that way?There must come reconsulaition/erq,who is going to make this happen unless the youth?

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 18 Feb 2018, 14:21

Amara Sayint wrote:The question remains, however, how can you convince people like OPFist, who wants to transform mama Ethiopia "to de facto Great Oromia of Leencoo Lataa" ?
Leencoo Lataa (Luuchee Leta) has said that his organisation is flexibile as far as he would get a little bit of the left-over from the share of the power-cake, in reaction to the recent announcement from OPDO stating that they would work also with the opposition from within and without.

He was the first in replying to the call and accepting the offer, hope they will process his case in the first round of evaluation of the enterants.

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Post by sun » 18 Feb 2018, 14:49

BigBreak wrote:the eprdf, its allies and ethnic federalism needs to be thrown out. ethiopia needs to become an indivisible country that forbids secession and also become a liberal, secular democracy that bans mixing ethnicity and politics
Really? :P

You mean, Unless the hedonist noisy chatter box gurage elites who come from the 2.5% gurage ethnic base and deeply ashamed of their nice and natural minority status but hiding and ashamed of their true identity for whom only the great money is their great god try to cheat and rob the state power in the name of Ethiopia and shove the country in to the bottomless drain even more than that of the tplf hedonist tyrants. NO THANKS!

Just leave the issue to the 45% majority egalitarian and democratic Oromos and their friends for shaping equality and justice for all as they are currently showing the right directions and the right activities by releasing large numbers of prisoners, closing down torture chambers, removing ethnicity identity badges and much more.

You better jump on the bandwagon and do the right and positive things and through that practically improve the lives and livings of the ordinary Ethiopians on the ground rather than sitting in BIG cheeseburger restaurants internet cafe day dreaming and scribbling useless blabbering just to kill time. Okay? Okay!! :lol:

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Post by sun » 18 Feb 2018, 15:12

Amara Sayint wrote:The question remains, however, how can you convince people like OPFist, who wants to transform mama Ethiopia "to de facto Great Oromia of Leencoo Lataa" ?
Don't be afraid of OPFist and or Leenco Lataa simply because he is more Ethiopian than yourself if it comes to that. Also in reality No Oromo in his right mind wants the whole of Ethiopia to become "defacto Great Oromia" because Oromia is already enough for the great and egalitarian generous Oromos who prefer to give rather than taking, even to those who always think and behave, "What is mine is mine, what is yours is also mine."

The bottom line in the past and the current Ethiopian conflicts and endless chaos increasingly putting mamma Ethiopia on its death bed emanates from the bottomless greed and the politics of, "WHAT IS MINE IS MINE AS WELL AS WHAT IS YOURS IS ALSO MINE" sick mindset. We have to stop that sickness by all means possible if we want to build a healthy wealthy sustainable state with equality and justice for all. In this effort the Great Oromos need to man-up, unit and lead towards that egalitarian well-being and welfare for all. :P

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Post by MRed » 18 Feb 2018, 15:19

OPDO will never leave EPRDF, if TPLF wants to leave then they can leave. Only cowards run but not OPDO it will continue and very soon it just needs a PM. When OPDO has the PM position then they can appoint more Oromo generals and intelligence then it can wage any war it wants against Zoomali or Agame. It's so, funny you can't take it Horus, the only reason TPLF is crashing is because of OPDO not AG7.


SEPDM doesn't concern me nor do ANDMs. They can rule Amhara or the south as puppets but only OPDO concerns me. SEPDM or ANDM being free is up to Amharas and debub to make that sacrifice. Oromos sacrificed enough for OPDO...


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Post by Horus » 18 Feb 2018, 15:42

MRed,

I am not even sure if I am talking to an OPDO or TPLF here. In other words, you could be OPDO in which case you are not making sense. Real OPDO is not talking about ANDM and Debub like you are doing. IF you are TPLF, it makes sense, in that your mission is to trap OPDO and isolate OPDO. TPLF is perfectly fine with a puppet Oromo PM to present to US congress and we will have two useless Oromos with zero power - a President and a PM getting orders from TPLF. Is what Qeerroo is fighting for?

By the way, this whole drama will end as soon as the US congress votes on the Bill which might not even pass.

Ethiopia will be back on the streets burning down Tigray buses and suks. Live and witness.

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Post by Degnet » 18 Feb 2018, 15:49

ande neger gen yetaweke new,be Amaraw ena be Tigrayu yetenakachehu mesakia endehonachihu,dedeb gurage asedabi,ye ahyaneteh ahya,be Egziabher almamenh new.Yemwedew merkato enkuan endtelaw adregehal.
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Post by MRed » 18 Feb 2018, 15:50

Horus wrote:MRed,

I am not even sure if I am talking to an OPDO or TPLF here. In other words, you could be OPDO in which case you are not making sense. Real OPDO is not talking about ANDM and Debub like you are doing. IF you are TPLF, it makes sense, in that your mission is to trap OPDO and isolate OPDO. TPLF is perfectly fine with a puppet Oromo PM to present to US congress and we will have two useless Oromos with zero power - a President and a PM getting orders from TPLF. Is what Qeerroo is fighting for?

By the way, this whole drama will end as soon as the US congress votes on the Bill which might not even pass.

Ethiopia will be back on the streets burning down Tigray buses and suks. Live and witness.
ANDM and SEPDM don't concern Oromos. The Oromos should only pay attention to their party which is OPDO. The greatest mistake CUD and OLF made was leave, that's when TPLF started full war on them. OPDO needs only one more thing, it needs the PM position.


The PM is the only one who has the power to change Ethiopia. Stop dreaming Horus, the Oromos have two enemies. The Agames and chavunists like yourself. We want to weaken TPLF but not destroy it. We want a weak TPLF just like we want a weak AG7.


TPLF has one use for Oromos and we will use them for that. Currently OPDO and TPLF are talking about a deal to put Dr. Abiy as PM. That's what we care about, we want an Oromo PM. When we have an Oromo PM then Abdi Illey will pay with his life. I hope Dr. Abiy sends ENDF to invade Zoomali region.


I don't trust debub and ANDM. ANDM are useless to us Oromos since they betrayed Gedu and Lemma. No Oromo should trust these ANDM idiots and expecially those at federal level.
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Post by Kara » 18 Feb 2018, 15:55

Degnet wrote:ande neger gen yetaweke new,be Amaraw ena be Tigrayu yetenakachehu mesakia endehonachihu,dedeb gurage asedabi,ye ahyaneteh ahya,be Egziabher almamenh new.Yemwedew merkato enkuan endtelaw adregehal.
degnet,

Ante Ambeta leqami lemagn -remember the saying 'zim yale af zimb ayigebabetim' ... ante fake pente lair!!1

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Post by Degnet » 18 Feb 2018, 16:05

Ye listro poletikegna,leminagerew metfo negeger new mels yesetehut,enant ahyoch tigre hulu wejane new,dedeb.ye hagere balager yeteshale yasebal

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Post by Amara Sayint » 18 Feb 2018, 16:19

You know?, leaders Inspire everyone, leaders have vision, leaders embrace diversity, leaders listen and leaders lead.

I do not think our Oromo tribal leaders in Ethiopia as well as in the diaspora have the aforementioned leadership qualities. Sorry !

In order to develop effective leadership skills and qualities, I recommend to all Oromo leaders General Colin L. Powell's new memoir, It Worked for Me: In Life and Leadership.

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Post by Degnet » 18 Feb 2018, 16:30

This is the way we were brought up,love people for their quality,I have respect for Teddy afro ,he is doing his part as an Ethiopian but I have my own quality too,these Godless people are not to preach for us.ere Amarochin Egziabher yebarek,be enezih mekniat hager aykatel

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