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Re: IMF Economic Reports, Another Way For Ethiopia To Attack Eritrea.

Post by Dawi » 31 Dec 2017, 16:26

Zmeselo wrote:Dawi the liar,

If all those questions had come from someone who wholeheartedly believed in 'ethiopianism'- whatever that is- all your questions would've been gladly answered and your false assertions debunked.

Now stop pointing at us, to give the impression that you're an ethiopian. You chose not to be, when you opted for a Tgray Republic and sacrificed untold numbers of non- tegaru to achieve and failed. Wearing the Ethiopian garb at this late hour, makes you look ridiculous.

Now, Eritreans and Ethiopians, - collectively- are telling you to take a hike.

Hypocrite- snake and waste of oxygen!

This is not personal, it is a fact that Ethiopians warmly embraced Eritreans as lost brothers & sisters after the Second World War and welcomed them with open arms.

The weakness of Haile Selassie was his tenderness towards Eritrean Ethiopians who were close to him as advisers. Not to mention, those who defected from the fascist army of Mussolini and fought alongside Ethiopian patriots as well.

He just didn't realize the magnitude of 100,000 fascist askaris trained by the fascists. Their capacity of destroying him and breaking up Ethiopia.

This post-war regime of Ethiopia that lasted till 1974 tried to cover up the heinous records of the Eritrean collaborators (whose heinous records against Ethiopia exceeded all other collaborators, including the records of Ethiopian collaborators in its magnitude) something that no self-respecting nation would do.

In war-torn Europe, those who fought alongside the Nazi’s and fascists did not go scot-free, they were rather made to face justice for collaborating with Nazis and Fascists. The children of Nazi and Fascist collaborators were not allowed to be proud of the mercenary role of their parents.

Eritreans, such as the flip flop, Bereketab Habteselassie was attorney general of Ethiopia during the imperial regime; he also wrote the secessionist Eritrea's "constitution". Now no he is back to square one. What is up with that?

I won't be surprised if Isaias does what Prof. Bereket did but, the suspense is killing us in the mean time. I for one don't know what Isaias is going to do. Do you?

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Re: IMF Economic Reports, Another Way For Ethiopia To Attack Eritrea.

Post by Dawi » 31 Dec 2017, 18:08


I enjoyed your last response.

The thing about GERD is, it's something most Ethiopians will be proud of. It doesn't look good for Eritrean Government to oppose it. I have no doubt most Eritreans would choose to support it.
For god sake, Sudan is standing with Ethiopia for building that monster of a Power.

Off course, the chauvinists don't want to be equals with us; so they want to deny our national right to develop our resources; they don't want the perception of Ethiopia/Ethiopians being in charge of the Nile even though it benefits them as well.

Let me tell you something, when we went to see the "Mystery of the Nile" documentary about 10 years ago, in the IMAX theater, met the makers of the documentary, signing books, can't tell you how proud we were.

Even though I new Ethiopia is the source and have visited lake Tana, the documentary was still exciting.

What was most amazing is, at the end of the documentary 100s of people in the theater looked as if some thing hit them, when they realized that the source of the Nile was Ethiopia. You can just read the reactions in the deafening silence of the audience when that was announced in the documentary. 8)

Off course I was looking around so uplifted, carrying my head high in the air & eventually going forward to get my book signed. That was one exciting experience as an Ethiopian in this country for me. I am sure all red blooded Ethiopians would feel the same way. I like my children and their children to feel that same way when GERD finished. Meles will be remembered forever just for putting a corner stone to create that exhilarating feeling in our life time alone; that Ethiopian Renaissance indeed!

Please don't be mocking the GERD; that is my problem with you and Prof. Al. Most Ethiopian intellectuals in the opposition support GERD even though they have differences with EPRDF probably for a good reason.

After GERD is finished Ethiopians not only generate millions as income to fight poverty but, will have the largest lake with fish, tourism & what have you. The perception of Ethiopia will change for ever; that has multiplier effect in other areas. Off course Sudan shall be an Oasis & Egypt will have sustainable source of water. Ethiopia as a regional power and a middle income country shall take care of the source on her own, by making it green more than ever for generations to come.

Think about it, the Egyptians using our left over run, harnessed the power of the Nile by building the Aswan High Dam. This massive structure, almost 4 kilometers long, provides enough electricity to power half of Egypt. It also increased the cultivable land of Egypt by 30%.

GERD will do much, much better than Aswan Dam. Envision that!


Nice talking with you as always!

Abdisa wrote:
Dawi wrote:
Looking how conflicted & pained Prof. Bereket is today, a man who HIM raised as his own, that served under HIM Admn. and Isaias's administration later on, shows the delima of Eritreans towards Ethiopia. You can't live with Ethiopia and can't live without Ethiopia & vise versa for that matter.
Dawi the Tigrawi

When you start seeing Eritreans through the clouded prism of Professor Bereket Habte Selassie's identity crisis emanating from having children from an Ethiopian wife, you're committing the cardinal sin of painting Eritrea, a country of more than 7 million people, with a broad brush and branding them as if their lives are still irrevocably bound to a tragic past. As far as the Eritreans are concerned, they have moved on with their lives keeping their heads up high, never succumbing to the urge for vengeance, nor falling victims to past historical injustices. 8)

The aging professor, who's now in the seventh and final stage of Alzheimer's disease, and with his one leg in the grave and the other on a banana peel, he has openly declared war on Eritrea to give his half-Eritrean & half-Ethiopian children one national identity before he kicks the bucket. His children, who are US citizens, consider their father's hallucinations to be directly related to his advanced stage of Alzheimer's disease, but how do you explain that to the weyane sewer flies swarming his face to feed on his tears and mucus? As the saying goes: ያረጀ አንበሳ የወያኔ መጫወቻ ይሆናል።
Dawi wrote:
Today Eritrea is opposed to one of our tickets out of poverty, the GERD, siding with Egyptian chauvinists!
I have a theory (mind you this is only a theory,) and my theory is that .. about 10 years ago, President Isaias Afewerki was holding a cabinet level meeting to discuss on what to do with the incessant barking of the Weyane regime. The cabinet members offered different suggestions, from taking direct military measures, to clandestine operations....etc. :?:

Then the President stood up from his chair and said, "we are done with the weyane! They are as dead as a door nail! They're not worth a drop of Eritrean blood. Its time to feed their corpses to the Egyptian dogs!" :shock:

When a cabinet member asked the President on how they would go about that, he explained, "let's start building dams-- hundreds of small to mid size dams across this great country of ours, and when the green-eyed weyane see that, not to be outdone, they will one-up the competition by building a MONSTER dam along the Nile River which is guaranteed to ignite anger in Egypt and the Arab world, triggering a massive military response, the likes of which the world has never seen before." :idea:

Sure enough, a few years later the cabinet members started watching the tiny seed President Isaias had planted in weyane's mind started to grow to fruition, and they couldn't contain their laughter when in 2011 Meles Zenawi announced the plan to build the monster dam. :lol:

In a sense, someone with a higher IQ has planted the seed of GERD in your small mind and made you to believe that it was your own idea. So the GERD can be said its your Tigray's Frankenstein monster-- which means that you gave life to an idea that someone had planted in your mind without knowing that the monster you have created will eventually spell your own demise. IQ matters.

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Re: IMF Economic Reports, Another Way For Ethiopia To Attack Eritrea.

Post by neiseha beraki » 31 Dec 2017, 21:10

OH , what an embarrassing and degrading scene !!!!People like awash and others must be cringing after they watch this sad footage.

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Re: IMF Economic Reports, Another Way For Ethiopia To Attack Eritrea.

Post by Abdisa » 31 Dec 2017, 21:17

Dawi wrote:

The thing about GERD is, it's something most Ethiopians will be proud of.

Most Ethiopian intellectuals in the opposition support GERD even though they have differences with EPRDF probably for a good reason.
'The truth is like a lion; you don't have to defend it. Let it loose; it will defend itself.' 8)


ህወሃት ጉሮሮውን ሳይታነቅ የበላውን በ30 ቀን “እተፋለሁ” አለ
“ህወሃት ሲፈጠርም ጀምሮ ዓለምአቀፋዊ ወሮበላ ነው”


ህወሃት በቦንድ ስም ህግ ጥሶ ሲሰበስብ የነበረውን ገንዘብ ክስ ተመስርቶበት ጉሮሮው ሳይታነቅ ወዶ ለመትፋት መስማማቱ ታወቀ። ድርጊቱ ኢትዮጵያን መሳቂያ፣ የምትተዳደረው በህገ አራዊት መሆኑን የሚያረጋግጥ መሆኑንና የህወሃትን የወሮበላነት ባህሪ እርቃን ያወጣ ነው ተባለ።


ራሱን “የትግራይ ሕዝብ ነጻ አውጪ” የሚለው አገዛዝ ከቦንድ ሽያጭ ጋር በተያያዘ ሰሞኑንን ይፋ የሆነበት ዜና “ነጻ አውጪው ሃይል” አሁንም ከጫካ አስተሳሰብ አለመላቀቁን የሚያመለክት እንደሆነ ተጠቆመ። በፍርድቤት ተከስሶ እና ጉሮሮውን ታንቆ ከውርደት ጋር በርካታ የገንዘብ ክፍያ ውስጥ ከመግባቱ በፊት “ጥፋተኛ ነኝ፤ ፍርድቤት አትውሰዱኝ፤ ያላችሁኝን አደርጋለሁ” በማለት ተስማምቶ ራሱን ለክፍያ አዘጋጅቷል፡፡

በእንግሊዝኛው ምህጻረ ቃል (SEC) Securities and Exchange Commission (የዋስትናዎችና ልውውጥ ኮሚሲዮን) ተብሎ የሚጠራው የአሜሪካ ፌዴራል መንግሥት መሥሪያቤት ከተቋቋም 80ዓመታት ያለፉት ሲሆን ሶስቱ መሠረታዊ ተልዕኮዎቹ ባለሃብቶችን መከላከል፤ የፋይናንስ ገበያው በሥርዓት፣ በብቃትና በእኩልነት እንዲካሄድ ማድረግና የካፒታል ምስረታን ማበረታታት ናቸው፡፡


ኮሚሽኑ ሰኔ 1፤2008ዓም (June 8, 2016) ባወጣው አስቸኳይ መግለጫ ላይ የኢትዮጵያ መንግሥት በማለት የጠራው ህወሃት/ኢህአዴግ የሚቆጣጠረው የኢትዮጵያ ኤሌክትሪክ ኃይል (በቀድሞ ስሙ የኤሌክትሪክ ኃይል ኮርፖሬሽን) በአሜሪካ ውስጥ ያልተመዘገቡ ቦንዶችን በመሸጥ ለፈጸመው ወንጀል 6.5 ሚሊዮን ዶላር (በግምት 150ሚሊዮን ብር) ለመክፈል መስማማቱን ገልጾዋል፡፡ :mrgreen:

በተለምዶ “የአባይ ቦንድ” ተብሎ የሚጠራውን አሜሪካ ውስጥ ለሚገኙ ኢትዮጵያውያን ያለ አሜሪካ መንግሥትና ያለ ኮሚሽኑ ፍቃድ መሸጡ በማስረጃ ሲረጋገጥ ጉዳዩ ወደ ፍርድ ቤት ከማምራቱ በፊት ህወሃት 6.5 ሚሊዮን ዶላር ለኮሚሽኑ ለመክፈል መስማማቱን ለማወቅ ተችሏል፡፡ አንዳንድ ወገኖች ጉዳዩ ወደ ፍርድ ቤት ቢመራ ኖሮ ከሚያስከትለው ከፍተኛ የፖለቲካ ኪሣራ በተጨማሪ የቅጣቱ መጠን ከዚህ በእጅጉ እንደሚልቅ ያስረዳሉ፡፡ ሁኔታው ያላማረው ህወሃት ከጠበቆች በተሰጠው ሙያዊ አስተያየት በመነሳት ጥፋቱን አምኖ ክሱን በስምምነት ለመዝጋት መወሰኑን ስለ ጉዳዩ በቅርበት የሚያውቁ ለጎልጉል በሰጡት አስተያየት ጠቁመዋል፡፡

ጉዳዩ በሕግ የሚታይ በመሆኑ ኮሚሽኑ ይፋ ያደረገው የክስ ማመልከቻ ላይ በግልጽ እንዳመለከተው ኮርፖሬሽኑ እኤአ ከ2011 እስከ 2014 ድረስ ያለ አንዳች ፈቃድ በአሜሪካ በተለያዩ ዋና ዋና ከተሞች ሕገወጥ ቦንድ ሲሸጥ ቆይቷል፡፡ ይህንንም ለማድረግ ዋሽንግተን ዲሲ በሚገኘው “ኤምባሲ” (የኢህአዴግ ጽ/ቤት) ድረገጽ፤ እንዲሁም የተለያዩ የሬዲዮና የቲቪ ማስታወቂያዎችን መጠቀሙን ገልጾዋል፡፡ (ኮሚሽኑ ያወጣው ባለሰባት ገጽ የክስ መረጃ እዚህ ላይ ይገኛል፡፡) ... iopia2.pdf

ከሚያዚያ 2011 ጀምሮ በተለያዩ የአሜሪካ ከተሞች በተሸጠው የአባይ ቦንድ አማካኝነት የተሰበሰበው የገንዘብ መጠን ለምሳሌ ያህል ከዚህ የሚከተለው እንደነበር የክሱ ማመልከቻ በግልጽ ያስረዳል፡፡ (የገንዘብ መጠኑ በአሜሪካ ዶላር ነው)

ነሐሴ 2011፤ በዴንቨር ኮሎራዶ፤ $130,000.00
ሰኔ 2012፤ በዋሽንግተን ዲሲ፤ $1,500,000.00
ሰኔ 2012፤ በሺካጎ ኤሌኖይ፤ $110,000
ሚያዚያ 2013፤ ሳን ዲያጎ ካሊፎርኒያ፤ $43,000
ሚያዚያ 2013፤ ሒውስተን ቴክሳስ፤ $50,000
ግንቦት 2013፤ ኒው ዮርክ ከተማ ኒው ዮርክ፤ $100,000

ይህ እንደ አመላካች ሆኖ የተሠራ መዘርዝር የቦንዱ ሽያጭ በኤምባሲው ስፖንሰር አድራጊነት በሕዝባዊ አዳራሾች የተሰበሰበውን ለማሳየት የቀረበ ነው፡፡ በአሜሪካ የሚኖሩ ኢትዮጵያውያንን ትኩረት ያደረገው ሽያጭ በሬዲዮና በቲቪ እንዲሁም በኤምባሲውና በሌሎች መንገዶች መቅረቡን የክሱ ማስረጃ ያመለክታል፡፡


ቦንዱ የሚወልድበት ዓመት ከደረሰ በኋላ በየስድስት ወሩ ወለድ የሚከፈል መሆኑን ገዢዎች ለኢትዮጵያ ንግድ ባንክ በሚያስገቡት የማስታወቂያ መመሪያ ላይ የተመለከተ ሲሆን ክፍያው በቀጥታ ወደ ባንክ ሒሳባቸው ወይም ባንክ ቤቱ ድረስ በመቅረብ መቀበል ከሚለው አንዱን በመምረጥ ከ3,100 (ሶስት ሺህ አንድ መቶ) በላይ የሚሆኑ በአሜሪካ የሚኖሩ ትውልደ ኢትዮጵያውያን ከ$5 እስከ $10,000 (ከአምስት እስከ አስር ሺህ ዶላር) ዋጋ ያለውን ቦንድ መግዛታቸውን የኮሚሽኑ የክስ መረጃ ያመለክታል፡፡ ከዚሁ ጋር አያይዞ እነዚሁ ገዢዎች ያወጡት አጠቃላይ ገንዘብ $5,800,000.00 (አምስት ሚሊዮን ስምንት መቶ ሺህ ዶላር) እንደሆነና ከገዢዎቹ መካከል 64 በመቶው የአሜሪካ ዜግነት ያላቸው ኢትዮጵያውያን መሆናቸውን ያስረዳል፡፡

አገር በዘፈቀደ የሚመራው ህወሃት/ኢህአዴግ ይህንን ሕገወጥ ቦንድ ሉዓላዊነቷ በተከበረ አገር ላይ ሲሸጥ በአገር ውስጥ እንደሚያደርገው በአሜሪካም ማንአለብኝነቱን ለማሳየት መሞከሩ ድንበር ዘለል ሕገወጥነቱን እና ወራዳነቱን ያመለክታል የሚሉ ወገኖች ይህ እንደ አገር “አሳፋሪ” ነው ይላሉ፡፡ ቢያንስ “የተማሩ” የሚላቸው “ሚኒስትሮቹና ዴኤታዎቹ” እንዲሁም ከአምባሳደሩ ጀምሮ degree millበተዋረድ ያሉ የኤምባሲው ሹማምንት ይህንን አስቀድመው ለማስቆም ወይም ህጋዊ እንዲሆን ለማድረግ አለመቻላቸው “የዲግሪ ወፍጮቤት ምሩቃን” መሆናቸውን በገሃድ የሚመሰክር፤ ህወሃት/ኢህአዴግም እስካሁን በሕገ አራዊት የሚመራ ዋልጌ መሆኑን ያለተጨማሪ ማስረጃ ገሃድ ያወጣ ተግባር ነው በማለት እነዚሁ ወገኖች ምሬታቸውን ይናገራሉ፡፡

ኮሚሽኑ ባቀረበው ማመልከቻና ህወሃት በፍርድ ቤት ከመከሰሱ በፊት በተስማማው መሠረት የክሱ ትዕዛዝ ከወጣበት ሰኔ 1፤2008ዓም (June 8, 2016) ጀምሮ ባሉት 30 ቀናት ውስጥ “የበላውኸውን ትፋ” ተብሏል፡፡ በዚህም መሠረት ህወሃት/ኢህአዴግ $6,448,854.87 (በዶላር ስድስት ሚሊዮን አራት መቶ አርባ አራት ሺህ ስምንት መቶ አምሳ አራት ከሰማኒያ ሰባት ሳንቲም) አንዳች ሳይቀንስ በኮሚሽኑ የባንክ ሂሳብ ውስጥ ገቢ እንዲያደርግ ታዝዟል፡፡ ይህ ሳይሆን ቀርቶ ህወሃት ከቀነ ገደቡ ቢያልፍ በኮሚሽኑ ሕገ ደንብ መሠረት ከነወለዱ እንዲከፍል የሚገደድ መሆኑን የክሱ ማስረጃ ጨምሮ ያብራራል፡፡ ይህ ከተጠናቀቀ በኋላ በሚቀርበው ማስረጃ መሠረት ቦንዱን የገዙ ግለሰቦች ገንዘባቸው (ተገቢም ከሆነ ከነወለዱ) እንዲመለስ የሚደረግበት ሂደት እንደሚቀጥል መረጃው ጨምሮ ያስረዳል፡፡ የሁኔታውን ግዝፈትና የሚያደርሰውን ኪሣራ ጫና የተመለከቱ ወገኖች “ህወሃት ሰኔና ሰኞ ሳያስበው ገጥመውበታል” ሲሉ ተደምጠዋል፡፡

ውሳኔውን ያስቆጨው አይጋፎረም “ጽንፈኛው ዳያስፖራ (በዚህ ክስ) ያሸነፈ ሊመስለው ይችል ይሆናል፤ ነገርግን ያሸነፈችው ኢትዮጵያ ነች” በማለት ድንቁርና በለገሰው ድፍረት የህወሃትን መንበርከክ እንደ ሽንፈትን አልቀበልም ብሏል፡፡ ከዚህም አልፎ በዚሁ ድንቁርና በመነዳት “አሁን በሕጋዊ መልኩ ኢትዮጵያ በሚሊዮን የሚቆጠር ዶላር ትሰበስባለች” በማለት ፍቅረ ህወሃት ህልሙን በኢትዮጵያ ስም በማስታወቅ ሰዎችን እንደገና ወደገደል የሚመራ ዕቅዱን ይፋ አድርጓል፡፡ አገሪቱ በከፍተኛ የውጭ ምንዛሪ ቀውስ ውስጥ ባለችበትና የዱቤ ደብዳቤ (ኤል.ሲ.) ለመፍቀድ እጅግ በርካታ ወራትን ማስቆጠሩ ነጋዴውን ፍጹም እያስመረረና እያከሰረ ባለበት ሁኔታ ህወሃት ሰብስቦ የበላውን እንዲተፋ መገደዱ የሚያስከትለው የፋይናንስና የገንዘብ ኪሣራ አፍቃሪ ህወሃቶችን እምብዛም ያስጨነቀ አይመስልም፡፡ የጉዳቱን መጠን የሚያውቁት ግን የጠገገ ቁስሉን እንደገና ሲያደሙበት የጣዕር ሲቃ እንደሚያሰማ ስስ ብልታቸው ላይ መመታታቸውን የተረዱ ጩኸታቸው ከሩቅ ይሰማል፡፡ :lol:

የዛሬ አምስት ዓመት የቦንዱ ሽያጭ ይፋ በሆነ ጊዜ በወቅቱ የንግድ ባንክ ማመልከቻዎችንና የቦንድ ግዢ መመሪያዎችን አባሪ በማድረግ በጉዳዩ ላይ ባለሙያ ለሆነ ጠበቃ የማስተላለፍ ሥራቸውን የሰሩ ይህ ዓይነቱ ጉዳይ ተጠናክሮ መቀጠል ቢችል ህወሃትን ያለብዙ ችግር ማንበርከክ የሚቻል እንደሆነ አስረግጠው ይናገራሉ፡፡ ቀላሉ መንገድ የዶላሩን መስመር መከተል ብቻ ነው፤ እዚያ መስመር ላይ ህወሃትን ማግኘት ብዙም አይከብድም በማለት ሰሚ ባያገኙም አሁንም ይመክራሉ፡፡ ክቡር ከሆነው የሰው ህይወት ይልቅ ገንዘብ አምላኩ የሆነው ህወሃት የአገርን ክብር ያዋረደውና ዜጎችን በእብሪት እየረገጠ ያለው በገንዘብ ኃይል ነው፡፡ በገንዘብ መከታ ዜጎችን ድሃ ያደርጋል፤ ተቃዋሚዎቹን ሁሉ ያፈርሳል፤ ታማኝ ተቃዋሚ ይመሠርታል፤ ያደኸየውን “ያጠግብና” ተገዢ ያደርጋል፤ ሕገወጥ ዳኞችን ይሾማል፤ ሕግ ያወጣል፤ ሕግን በፍትህ ስም ያረክሳል፤ ፍትህንም በሕግ አንቀጽ ያዋርዳል፤ እስከ ዓለምአቀፍ ቦታዎች ድረስ በገንዘብ ኃይል አሽቃባጮቹንና ተላላኪዎቹን ያስሾማል፤ …፡፡ ህወሃት ለጌቶቹ በገንዘብ የተገዛና አንዳች ክብር የሌለው ወራዳ ስለሆነ የገንዘብን ጥቅም ከማንም በላይ ያውቀዋል፡፡ ይህንን በውል የሚረዱ ወገኖች ደግሞ የህወሃትን የገንዘብ ምንጭ በተቻለው ሁሉ ለማድረቅ ሙከራው ቢቀጥል በገንዘብ ከገዛቸው ተራ ካድሬዎች ጀምሮ እርስበርስ መበላላት መጀመራቸው አይቀሬ ይሆናል ይላሉ፡፡

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Re: IMF Economic Reports, Another Way For Ethiopia To Attack Eritrea.

Post by Dawi » 01 Jan 2018, 02:20

“the pot calling the kettle black.”! :P

Abdisa you're very funny - Do you really think this will challenge my view of:

"The thing about GERD is, it's something most Ethiopians will be proud of".

Not at all! If anything Woyane should be blamed for not learning from the mistakes of the "master" of lies, who helped create it as a liberation movement, Shaebia that is!

Such illegal transactions are second to nature to Eritrean government, that is why it is on UN sanctions for life.

At least not normal for Woyane; so it is good they negotiated to avoid embarassment.

Look at that face of the Eritrean Diplomat? Imagine that old man being dragged to court and get kicked out of Canada! It happened. :oops:

In the following, Canada expelled an Eritrean diplomat after he was caught using his consulate in Toronto as a fundraising front for the repressive African regime and its military in violation of international sanctions.


The following is another one:

Concerns that the Eritrean embassy in London is using coercion or illicit means to collect the tax – such as refusing diaspora members basic consular services if they fail to pay it – have led the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) to raise the matter with the Eritrean authorities on at least four occasions over the past four years.

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