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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Right » 04 Dec 2024, 12:01

NATO is a criminal organization. It is not a defensive alliance. Engaged in destroying Yugoslavia and Libya. And it is now an active party of the war in Ukraine, a non member state.

The argument that the invasion of Ukraine by Russia brought NATO a lot closer to Russian border is absurd. With or without the war on Ukraine, NATO will attempt to be a lot closer to Russia to harm Russia.

Nations like Finland and Sweden are acting stupid by not looking after their interests.

One has to look at THE MONROE DOCTRINE to understand Russia. Google it.

Ukraine will never be a viable country. Period.

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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Fed_Up » 04 Dec 2024, 12:28

Abere wrote:
04 Dec 2024, 10:44
በዋናኝነት የሚመሳስላቸው ነገር አለ

-- ኤርትራ የኢትዮጵያ ህጋዊ ይዞታ የሆነውን አሰብ ወደብ እና ባርህ በስርቆት በመያዝ በስጋት እና በጭንቀት ውስጥ ያለች ስትሆን ሩስያ የክሪምያ ክፍል የእራሴ ነው በስህተት ወደ ዩክሬን የተላለፈ በሚል ቀምታ ይዛለች። ኤርትራ ደግሞ ኡ!ኡ! ግብጥ እባክሽ አድኝኝ ላይ ነች።

--ኤርትራ በምዕራባዊያን እና አረብ አገራት እጅ ተጠፍጥፋ የተሰራች ንዑስ ክፍል ስትሆን (ይህም ማንነት የአገርነት ተክለ-ቁመና ይሆን ህይወት ያልሰጣት)፥ የዩክሬንም አደናጋሪ ቀውስ ይኸው ይመስላል - የምዕባዊ ነን እና የሩስያነን ባዮች የማንነት ቀውስ የጦርነት ፍጥጫ።

ግን አንድ ትልቅ ልዩነት አላቸው።

የኤርትራ ስድተኛ እና የዩክሬን ስደተኛ ስታነጻጽር የቀድሞ ህይወታቸው ልዩነት በገጻቸው ላይ ይታያል። የኤርትራ ስደተኛ ሻዕብያ አሰቃይቶ አሽቶ አሽቶ ስለጨረሳቸው ውሃ ገብታ የወጣች አይጥ መስለው ይታያሉ፤ የዩክሬን ግን ደላ መቸት እንዳላቸው ለብሰው ሙቀው ታያቸዋለህ - ምንም እንኳን ስደት ክፉ አጋጣሚ ቢሆንም። የሃብታም እና የድሃ ሀዘን ለየት ይላል።



Selam/ wrote:
03 Dec 2024, 23:53
የዩክሬንና ኤርትራን ክፍለ ሃገሮች የሚያመሳስላቸው ነገር የህዝብ ቁጥር ማሽቆልቆሉ ነው።

ዩክሬን የዛሬ አራት ዓመት 42 ሚሊዮን ህዝብ ነበራት ። ዛሬ ታዲያ ብዙዎች አልቀውና ሸሽተው ወደ 38 ሚሊዮን አሽቆልቁሏል። ይቺ የእኛ ሰፈር መናጢዋም ደግሞ ፉን ፉን አለችና ከ 6 ሚሊዮን ታጭዳና ተከርክማ ወደ 2 ሚሊዮን ወረደች። ይኸ ዕርግማን ነው።

ዮክሬን በጦርነቱ ምክንያት ወደ 500 ቢሊዮን ዶላር የሚገመት ንብረት ወድሞባታል። እስኪ ዩኔስኮ መጥቶ ይገነባልናል ብለው ዝንባቸውን እሽ እያሉ እንደሚቀላውጡት ሻቦዎች እነሱም የUncle Samን እርጥባን ይጠብቁ እንደሆነ እናያለን።

ዩክሬን በአንደኛነት ደረጃ ለብዙ ሃገራት ስንዴ ኤክስፖርት ታደርጋለች ፣ በሚያሳፍር ሁኔታ ለbread baskeቷ አፍሪካ ጨምሮ፣ በተለይም ለኤርትራ፣ ለግብፅ፣ ለታንዛንያ፣ ለዩጋንዳ፣ ለአልጀሪያ፣ ለጂቡቲ፣ ለሱዳን ለኢትዮጵያና ለቤኒን። በጦርነቱ ምክንያት ምርቱና ትራንስፖርቱ ሲታወክ ቱስ ቱስ ዓብዮት ስንዴ ሞልቶ እስኪ ተርፍ ድረስ አምርቼ ለዓለም ገበያ በቅርቡ አደርሳለሁ ብሎ የውሸት ሃክታውን አስታወከ።
https://ethiopianbusinessreview.net/the-wheat-irony/

ኢትዮጵያ ዛሬም ስንዴ ከዩክሬን፣ ከራሺያ፣ ከሩሜኒያ፣ ከቡልጌሪያ፣ ከአርጀንቲናና ከአሜሪካ ትገዛለች።

ሰገጤው
Said so the “we are the world” aka the "Starvin Marvin" of our planet earth Ethiopian :lol: :mrgreen: . ^^ብሎ አለ የረሃብ እና የድህነት መገለጫው ኢትዮጵያውያዊዉ ቅቅቅቅቅቅቅ

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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Selam/ » 04 Dec 2024, 19:56

ዩክሬንዬማ መሬቷን አስረክባ ቁስሏን እየላሰች ወደ ስንዴ ምርቷ ልትሰበሰብ ነው። የራሺያን ጋዝን በናፍቆት የምትጠባበቀዋ አናሳ አውሮፓም፣ ቧንቧዋን እያጠዳዳች በጉጉት እየተጠባበቀች ነው።

ለሻቡዬዎች ትምህርቱ እንጣጥ እንጣጥ አትበሉ፣ ፈሳችሁ ብቻ ሳይሆን የረገጣችሁትም መሬት ያመልጣችኋል፣ ይከዳችኋል ነው።

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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Fiyameta » 04 Dec 2024, 20:17



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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Selam/ » 05 Dec 2024, 05:11

Shabos should consider changing their eye color. Every country wants to deport them except North Korea:

Ethiopia: UN experts urge Ethiopia to halt mass deportation of Eritreans
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases ... -eritreans

Türkiye: Eritreans at imminent risk of forced return
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eu ... 3/2024/en/

Israel: Netanyahu wants immediate deportation of Eritreans after Tel Aviv violence
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66700307.amp

Libya: Amnesty International warns against deportation of Eritreans
https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/u ... 008eng.pdf

Egypt: Eritreans at imminent risk of deportation
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... portation/

Switzerland: Swiss parliament votes to send failed Eritrean refugees to another African nation
https://lenews.ch/2024/06/15/swiss-parl ... an-nation/


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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Meleket » 05 Dec 2024, 08:36

ሲጀመር፡ ሽኝቱ በጭብጨባ የታጀበ እንደነበር ቁምነገሩን ለመመዝገብ ያህል ነው!
Why did Ukraine leave the Soviet Union? Was Ukraine a part of the Soviet union?
Elena Gold



33 years ago, on December 1, 1991, Ukraine held a nation-wide referendum, in which 92% of voters supported Ukrainian independence — pro-independence voters scored the majority in every single region of the country.

• In Crimea, 54% of people voted for independence from the Soviet Union (57% in Sevastopol).
• 83% of people voted in support of Ukrainian independence in Donetsk and Luhansk regions.
• Voter turnout was 84%. (Normal for the USSR times: nearly everybody voted in the Soviet Union – they were selling cheap food at polling stations. Yes, really.)

A week later, the USSR officially ceased to exist, as presidents of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus signed a document in Belavezha (Belarus) that effectively dissolved the Soviet Union.



3 men who cancelled the Soviet Union (left to right): Leonid Kravchuk (Ukraine), Stanislav Shushkevich (Belarus) and Boris Yeltsin (Russia).

According to Kravchuk, he had the mandate for independence from the Ukrainians — but Russia’s freshly elected president Boris Yeltsin was a bit worried.

Kravchuk made a convincing argument: “If an American president visits Kyiv, he’d come to see me. If he visits Moscow, he’d come to see Gorbachev…”

This was the argument that convinced Yeltsin to dissolve the Soviet Union.

Small things can change history.

Remember this — and keep pushing.

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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Abere » 05 Dec 2024, 10:45

What a great resource of reference documenting the misery of people of Eritrea province. What is strikingly puzzling is those Eritrean who left their place of origin fleeing the inferno of hellish life 24/7 are parroting for Shabia and the irreparably delipidate Eritrea. Thise Shabia trolls in this forum fled on foot and raft are examples. We know Eritrea is a paralyzed but they paint a picture. :lol:

Selam/ wrote:
05 Dec 2024, 05:11
Shabos should consider changing their eye color. Every country wants to deport them except North Korea:

Ethiopia: UN experts urge Ethiopia to halt mass deportation of Eritreans
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases ... -eritreans

Türkiye: Eritreans at imminent risk of forced return
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eu ... 3/2024/en/

Israel: Netanyahu wants immediate deportation of Eritreans after Tel Aviv violence
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-66700307.amp

Libya: Amnesty International warns against deportation of Eritreans
https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/u ... 008eng.pdf

Egypt: Eritreans at imminent risk of deportation
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... portation/

Switzerland: Swiss parliament votes to send failed Eritrean refugees to another African nation
https://lenews.ch/2024/06/15/swiss-parl ... an-nation/


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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by sarcasm » 06 Dec 2024, 20:43

Right wrote:
04 Dec 2024, 12:01
The argument that the invasion of Ukraine by Russia brought NATO a lot closer to Russian border is absurd.
Numbers do not lie!




Map shows how Russia's border with NATO more than doubles with Finland as a member (Finland has an 830-mile border with Russia, meaning NATO reached to touch additional 830 miles border of Russia. Remember, the current post-Ukraine-War border of NATO and Russia is the old plus new border lines )

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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Right » 07 Dec 2024, 01:09

The argument that the invasion of Ukraine by Russia brought NATO a lot closer to Russian border is absurd. With or without the war on Ukraine, NATO will attempt to be a lot closer to Russia to harm Russia.
Sarc,
You are welcome to comment by quoting my remarks but put it in context.
NATO was stopped in Ukraine. NATO tried to expand into Georgia in 2008 but then stopped. They keep trying. That is why the suggestion of NATO expansion has grown because of the Russian invasion is stupid.
NATO can’t be appeased, it has to be resisted. Nuclear capability and Hypersonic will put them in check.

Oh those small countries like Finland who are allowing themselves to be used by the West are now at the front line of the fire. They didn’t look after their interests.
The US is protected by two oceans, yet the smaller countries in Europe who are neighbours to Russia are hosting a nuclear armament. Stupidity.

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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Selam/ » 08 Dec 2024, 13:03


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Re: Sad Reality of Ukraine - Worse than before the War Started

Post by Meleket » 09 Dec 2024, 10:38

እኛ ኤርትራዉያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች፡ ለጀግናው የዩክሬን ህዝብ ከነጀግናው መሪያቸዉ ትልቅ ክብር እንሰጣቸዋለን! :mrgreen:

ጀግናው ዘለንስኪ ባያነሳ ጋሻ፡
በቦረቀ ነበረ አውሮፓ ላይ ራሻ። :mrgreen:

ወራሪ ከሰሜን ይምጣ ከደቡብ ከምስራቅ ይምጣ ከምዕራብ ወራሪ ነው፡ በህዝብ ትግልም ይሸነፋል![ አራት ሚሊየን ነጥቦች]

ክሬሚያ ሆይ ብረሳሽ ቀኜ ትርሳኝ!” እያለ ነው የኣውሮፓው ሻዕብያ፡ ዘለንስኪ ጀግናው!
ምን ታረጊዋለሽ? . . . ። ምን ታረጊዋለሽ? . . . ምን ታረጊዋለሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽሽ!!!!




An opposition fighter steps on a broken bust of the late Syrian President Hafez al-Assad in Damascus, on December 8, 2024 [AP/Hussein Malla]



ሲጠቃለል
መለስ = ፑቲን = የማሌ (የማርክስና የሌኒን ግርፍ) ልዑላዊ ሃገሮችን የወረሩ ወፈፌ መሪዎች

የታላቋ ትግራይ ህልም = የታላቋ ሩስያ ህልም = የታላቋ ጦቢያ ህልም

ደደቢት ብቻ ኣይደለም ደደብ፤ ሩስያም (ክሬምሊንም) ጭምር ደደብ ነው!

ዘለንስኪ ጀግና ነው!

ድል ለሰፊው የዩክሬን ህዝብ!
:mrgreen:

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