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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 18 Jan 2023, 10:56


The dilemma of using nuclear weapons in combat:
no such thing as a limited nuclear war. If Russia launches an identifiable nuclear weapon it will lead to unpredictable results and a guaranteed response in kind. As a child of the sixties, Let me introduced you to the math of nukes as it was described to me decades ago:

The moment Russia fires, NATO will have a problem with only one reasonable response. Unlike the US, British and French nuclear weapons, it does not know the real status of Russian weapons. Thanks to the evasion, obfuscation, and disinformation on the part of the Russian Federation, NATO might not know clearly the effectiveness of Russian nukes. Unlike Soviet times, It is also likely that Putin himself, thanks to epidemic corruption, does not know.

Russias maintenance issue:

The fact is that Russia is spending 1/10 of what the US armed forces spends on nuclear weapons maintenance ( the US spends $60 billion a year, Russia $6). Even Battlefield (or tactical nuclear weapons) require constant maintenance included a recharge with a very expensive element called tritium. If not done on a regular schedule, the weapon quickly becomes nothing more than a dirty bomb with a fraction of the yield.

For instance, let’s say that the full yield of a tactical warhead (a fission device) is about 100 kilotons as designed and deployed. But if the tritium fades or is removed from the fission stage, then the yield drops to only 0.3 kt. City killing Hydrogen bombs are similarly expensive to maintain. Unlike the Soviet’s, the rump Russian empire of today would need to divert most of its military budget to maintain its nukes. As Russia has not done this, the number of reliable weapons in its arsenal may only be 1/10th of what it claims, if that. Add in the factor of corruption and it is likely that Russia has only a fraction of the working nukes it claims and doesn’t know which weapons will work.

The maintenance issue is compounded by the delivery challenge.


Let’s assume that 1 in 10 Russia nukes will work. Assuming western air defenses are at least as good as Ukrainian air defenses ( now shooting down 80 to 90 % of cruise and tactical missiles launched ). Russia would need to launch 100 missiles to get one assured nuke hit. The moment NATO early warning radar sees 100 missiles in the air coming at the USA, the only reasonable response is a full counter strike.

If Russia tries to split the alliance by targeting either the British or French it would make not difference. If the Brits see 100 missiles coming at london it is a launch everything moment, a full scale retaliation. The British have 40 launch ready nukes, (out of 250 in total) and unlike the Russians ones these are 100% going to go off with a high percentage chance of hitting the 40 targets they are aimed at.

Once Britain launches, America has only one course of action that makes sense, hit every nuke Russian has left before they launch. While this will kill at least at least 100 million People, it is the only assurance of victory. Attacks could be both nuclear and conventional, the speed of response is key.

NATO planners have spent decades planning and gaming out how to decapitate Russian command and control and its nuclear forces. NATO military leaders have overwhelming confidence that they can win any nuclear or conventional conflict with Russia.

Russias way out:

Russia is loosing in Ukraine. It is impossible for it to win a war against a fanatical Ukrainian army that is backed by the economic and military strength of NATO. The only question remaining is how many people will die and what parts of Russia will glow in the dark afterwards.

If Russian soldiers want the nation they claim to love to have a future, they need to get out of #Ukraine before someone does something stupid.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Abere » 18 Jan 2023, 11:46

Thanks for the explanation! It is always wise to live in peace with a neighbor. This a great commandment in the Bible: "Love your neighbor as yourself." Mark 12:31

We saw how violence cost people in our region. I think most war historically probably made by the choice of some abnormal or greedy individuals not by the choice of the people. Once war started, people will not have choice. The reality is it will affect the people than those lit the fire. My prayer is for ordinary people going through this and for the world to be spared from destructive war.




Dark Energy wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 16:30
Abere,

Ukraine was known as the bread basket of the Soviet Union during second World War. Actually, when Hitler invaded Russia, the Ukrainians received the German soldiers with open arms. However, the German Racist and hateful organization the SS, arrived after the soldiers and started killing the Ukrainian citizens with atrocities unknown to the world ever before. Ukraine is very rich. The Russians do not see any bright future without Ukraine on their side. They don't want to destroy Ukraine for good. That would be the end of Russia as well. Hence, it is a much softer war with heavy global interest at stake. The Ukranian leader is trying to gain friendly countries alignment from the third World. BTW, Ukraine has a huge Jewish population. Hence, it is not going back to the Russian way of life.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Dark Energy » 18 Jan 2023, 17:31

Meleket,

Let me explain the nuclear technology and its destructive capability. Some thirty years ago, the US possessed some 20,000 thermo nuclear warheads. The Soviet Union had 10,000 thermocnuclear. China, England, and France had some 300 warheads. A single thermo nuclear warhead can destroy 400 square miles. Now, the US possesses a bit 5000 warheads. The Russians have close to 6000 warhead. Surprise surprise, India and pakistan each have over a hundred warheads. The problem with that is, if India and Pakistan go to war with nuclear armaments, in the aftermath, Earth would covered with so much dust, it would be very hard to grow anything edible for a long time. Now, the US has the capability of the star wars program in which it can fire the warheads directly from space. Israel may have some 300 too. Earth will stay in tact but life less. To obliterate Earth into dust, you need 3 trillion T.N.T's. :lol: :lol:
This guy knows all about it.


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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Dark Energy » 19 Jan 2023, 13:47

Cold Fusion, hopefully is back permanently. Free Energy to help us travel thousands of light years, some day into the future. Italian science right there.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by kerenite » 19 Jan 2023, 15:50

Hallo meleket,

We in the third world hail whites. We say the Ukrainian zilinsky is my hero no the russian putin is my hero. We fail to comprehend how politics is played in the white land.

For instance yesterday the Ukrainian interior minister along with high ranking officials died due to the helicopter crash.

Most western intelligence agents disagree that it was a common accident. According to them the french made modern helicopter cannot easily crash because of fog.

Here comes the conspiracy theory, the Ukrainian interior minister was always anti the war and he believed in negotiations with the russians. He has a lot of followers and that is why zilinsky was unable to fire him. So he got rid of him with this premeditated plot. Hence, he is a victim of such plot according to the secret agents.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Right » 19 Jan 2023, 17:49

People are eating too much Western propaganda.

One like it or not, Ukraine will remain the neighbour of Russia. It is in the best interest of Ukraine to remain neutral and maintain a neighbourly and friendly relations with Russia. The first mistake of Ukraine was taking the bait of the US in overthrowing the Yankovich presidency. And the 2nd mistake is that Ukraine didn’t handle this crisis smartly. Well, Putin and Russia they over reacted and acted stupid.

A US who openly sided and supplied weapons for Israel didn’t care about the suffering and brutal suppression of the Palestinian people. So this nonsense of standing up for the human rights of Ukrainians has to be thrown out of the window.

The world has one important and vital interest. We don’t care who is the superpower and who has the smartest weapons. A nuclear war has to be avoided at any cost. We had a glimpse of the destruction power of an atomic bomb in 1945 in Hiroshima & Nagasaki. This planet is home not only to humans but to numerous animals and plants and because of an egomaniac and greedy group of people we don’t want to squander life for living creatures on earth.

Let Ukraine and Russia find a way of resolving their problems. It would be wise for America to stay out.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 20 Jan 2023, 09:07

ኣዬ የፑቲን ኣመራር. . . :mrgreen:
President Putin even communicates with ministers on TV.

The dictator has not met with anyone in person for a long time because of total fear. Putin is afraid of covid, flu, assassination attempts and the evil eye. Even the incredibly long table separating him from trusted, searched and dependent interlocutors is already in the past. Putin does not really understand, but rather feels like an animal that he is hindering the lives of an increasing number of people, which is why even his inner circle becomes unreliable... No trust in anyone...


Putin's fear is also growing because he knows many ways to secretly kill, and may have given orders to kill more than once. This knowledge reinforces Putin's cowardice. He erects between himself and his interlocutor, no matter how reliable, a television screen as an impenetrable defense.
by Vladyslav Khmarsky

Russia is losing USD 1 billion daily because of its invasion of Ukraine
By Elena Gold

Russia is losing 1 billion US dollars daily because of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russian economist Abel Aganbegyan revealed.
According to Aganbegyan, Russia isn’t just in the state of crisis but stagnation, on the way to recession.

The crisis of the Russian economy caused by the pandemic could have stabilized in 2022.
But the invasion of Ukraine, instigated by Putin in February 2022, and the Western sanctions that followed it, colossal losses, capital outflow, plummeting income levels, and rising death rates have further exacerbated an already critical situation.


Abel Aganbegyan is a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and an honorary doctor of business administration of Kingston University, the founder and first editor of the journal EKO.

Aganbegyan calls the current regime in Russia “inefficient and socially backward state-oligarchic capitalism” and predicts that Russians will face serious difficulties and economic stagnation ahead.

According to the Aganbegyan, this is much worse than a crisis, ‘After all, a crisis has a built-in “rebound from the bottom” - a post-crisis rise.

Stagnation, on the contrary, does not contain a mechanism for the transition to growth, but pulls the economy down into recession.’

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by kerenite » 20 Jan 2023, 14:49

Meleket wrote:
20 Jan 2023, 09:07
ኣዬ የፑቲን ኣመራር. . . :mrgreen:
President Putin even communicates with ministers on TV.

The dictator has not met with anyone in person for a long time because of total fear. Putin is afraid of covid, flu, assassination attempts and the evil eye. Even the incredibly long table separating him from trusted, searched and dependent interlocutors is already in the past. Putin does not really understand, but rather feels like an animal that he is hindering the lives of an increasing number of people, which is why even his inner circle becomes unreliable... No trust in anyone...


Putin's fear is also growing because he knows many ways to secretly kill, and may have given orders to kill more than once. This knowledge reinforces Putin's cowardice. He erects between himself and his interlocutor, no matter how reliable, a television screen as an impenetrable defense.
by Vladyslav Khmarsky

Russia is losing USD 1 billion daily because of its invasion of Ukraine
By Elena Gold

Russia is losing 1 billion US dollars daily because of its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russian economist Abel Aganbegyan revealed.
According to Aganbegyan, Russia isn’t just in the state of crisis but stagnation, on the way to recession.

The crisis of the Russian economy caused by the pandemic could have stabilized in 2022.
But the invasion of Ukraine, instigated by Putin in February 2022, and the Western sanctions that followed it, colossal losses, capital outflow, plummeting income levels, and rising death rates have further exacerbated an already critical situation.


Abel Aganbegyan is a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and an honorary doctor of business administration of Kingston University, the founder and first editor of the journal EKO.

Aganbegyan calls the current regime in Russia “inefficient and socially backward state-oligarchic capitalism” and predicts that Russians will face serious difficulties and economic stagnation ahead.

According to the Aganbegyan, this is much worse than a crisis, ‘After all, a crisis has a built-in “rebound from the bottom” - a post-crisis rise.

Stagnation, on the contrary, does not contain a mechanism for the transition to growth, but pulls the economy down into recession.’
Meleket,

You revere zielensky, the Ukrainian president but I doubt if he knows who meleket is. For him you are just a sheer niggger.

A year or so ago, we have seen his policemen preventing africans from crossing the border to Poland because of their skin color. The whites were allowed to cross the border highy respected and accommodated.

This reminds me of a story which I read somewhere and it goes as follows:

This happened in London, UK. An ethiopian was telling a brit how ethiopians love and follow british premier league in various bars in addis ababa. Some even become hostile and punch others because of a penalty. They claim Arsenal or Chelsea were disfavored. Manu and liverpool are favored here so the penalty was wrong. They even pull knives to defend their favorite teams.

So the brit guy was listning attentively to what the ethio guy was saying.

Later his question:

His question was DO YOU HAVE TELEVISION IN YOUR COUNTRY?

So ato meleket, do not trust the ferenjees. For them you are just created by god to serve them and that is what their priests teach them at childhood.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by ethiopianunity » 20 Jan 2023, 23:09

Abere wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 13:34
In my view, Ukraine is hurt more than Tigray province of Ethiopia. The reasons I am saying this

1) Millions of Ukrainians are scattered throughout the West. Their lives are changed forever. The likelihood they will return home once they become immigrants to another country is very little. On the other hand, the Tigre-TPLF did not migrate or flee anywhere. They are where they were and are still remains as a province. Only the criminal thugs ( such as Samri genocidal thugs escaped to Sudan) and these are nothing in number.

2) Ukrainians are fighting with another country and the fight is brutal whereas in the case of Tigray province, a rebel (TPLF) fought its own country. The government of Ethiopia as such showed kind heart and hesitate doing lethal destructions. Leniency doubled with governmental conspiracy has not make the rebel war in Tigray as such worthy. Luckily Tigre-TPLF got a soft enemy, unlikely the jaw of Ukraine's enemy is very tough and one of the most powerful in the planet The Tigre-TPLF easily surrendered anyways in the end. Now, the world is shipping wheat and oil to boost them nutritionally. I pray no destructive weapon is not smuggled within the bags of the wheat being shipped.

May God save humanity from a devastating 3rd world war as the war in Ukraine may draw many actors.

Abere,

Keep making mistake Tplf attacking its own country? Does Tplf consider Ethiopia as its own country while it was established by your master Eplf to destroy Ethiopia? You must be delusional. Tplf sees only as its own entity working as mercinary for Eritrea and foreigners to disintegrate Ethiopia.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by ethiopianunity » 20 Jan 2023, 23:44

Many thinks for some reason West/U.S will lose. Really? When did they ever lose wars around the world? Never. That is because they are realistic and pragmatic. They want power in the world and continue to be powerful and that is the only alternative otherwise they will be a third world bullied by everybody just like the way they do it. They will win this war because they are not fighting in their backyard, Russia is. Russia lost since the dissolution of Soviet Union. It is easy now to break it apart unless they have true alliance that will fight next to them: I don't think China is honest ally and the rest are afraid to join russia because of the West. Where as, Nato has more allies. In fact, former Eastern Europeans that used to be part or pro Russia have now joined West saying good bye to Russia. Russia is by itself in this war. No matter of sophisticated military it has, it is not able to deter nuclear flying from Europe, U.S, Australia from different directions at the same time. The West will never dare challenge unless it is sure it will win wars.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 21 Jan 2023, 05:52

እኛ ኤርትራዉያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች፡ ለጀግናው የዩክሬን ህዝብ ከነጀግናው መሪያቸዉ ትልቅ ክብር እንሰጣቸዋለን! :mrgreen:

ጀግናው ዘለንስኪ ባያነሳ ጋሻ፡
በቦረቀ ነበረ አውሮፓ ላይ ራሻ። :mrgreen:

ወራሪ ከሰሜን ይምጣ ከደቡብ ከምስራቅ ይምጣ ከምዕራብ ወራሪ ነው፡ በህዝብ ትግልም ይሸነፋል![ አራት ሚሊየን ነጥቦች]

ክሬሚያ ሆይ ብረሳሽ ቀኜ ትርሳኝ!” ቀኜ ትርሳኝ” እያለ ነው የኣውሮፓው ሻዕብያ፡ ዘለንስኪ ጀግናው!

kerenite wrote:
20 Jan 2023, 14:49
. . .
So ato meleket, do not trust the ferenjees. For them you are just created by god to serve them and that is what their priests teach them at childhood.


ወዳጃችን kerenite 'ምክርህ' ደርሶናል፡ ኣይዞህ ብዙም ኣታስብ የምናምነውን እናውቃለን. . . አሁን በካርቱኒስቶች ጥበብ እስቲ እንዝናና! :mrgreen:




ሲጠቃለል
መለስ = ፑቲን = የማሌ (የማርክስና የሌኒን ግርፍ) ልዑላዊ ሃገሮችን የወረሩ ወፈፌ መሪዎች

የታላቋ ትግራይ ህልም = የታላቋ ሩስያ ህልም = የታላቋ ጦቢያ ህልም

ደደቢት ብቻ ኣይደለም ደደብ፤ ሩስያም (ክሬምሊንም) ጭምር ደደብ ነው!

ዘለንስኪ ጀግና ነው!

ድል ለሰፊው የዩክሬን ህዝብ!
:mrgreen:

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 25 Jan 2023, 06:22

እኛ ኤርትራዉያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች፡ ለጀግናው የዩክሬን ህዝብ ከነጀግናው መሪያቸዉ ትልቅ ክብር እንሰጣቸዋለን! :mrgreen:

ጀግናው ዘለንስኪ ባያነሳ ጋሻ፡
በቦረቀ ነበረ አውሮፓ ላይ ራሻ። :mrgreen:

ወራሪ ከሰሜን ይምጣ ከደቡብ ከምስራቅ ይምጣ ከምዕራብ ወራሪ ነው፡ በህዝብ ትግልም ይሸነፋል![ አራት ሚሊየን ነጥቦች]

ክሬሚያ ሆይ ብረሳሽ ቀኜ ትርሳኝ!” ቀኜ ትርሳኝ” እያለ ነው የኣውሮፓው ሻዕብያ፡ ዘለንስኪ ጀግናው!

የራሻ ጦ.ጥ (የጦርነት ጥቅመኞች) ማለትም ሰ.ፍ.ረ. (ሰብ ፍሉይ ረብሓ) መሆናቸው ነው! ኣዬ ካርቶኒስቶች! :mrgreen:


ሲጠቃለል
መለስ = ፑቲን = የማሌ (የማርክስና የሌኒን ግርፍ) ልዑላዊ ሃገሮችን የወረሩ ወፈፌ መሪዎች

የታላቋ ትግራይ ህልም = የታላቋ ሩስያ ህልም = የታላቋ ጦቢያ ህልም

ደደቢት ብቻ ኣይደለም ደደብ፤ ሩስያም (ክሬምሊንም) ጭምር ደደብ ነው!

ዘለንስኪ ጀግና ነው!

ድል ለሰፊው የዩክሬን ህዝብ!
:mrgreen:

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 13 Feb 2023, 11:04

እኛ ኤርትራዉያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች፡ ለጀግናው የዩክሬን ህዝብ ከነጀግናው መሪያቸዉ ትልቅ ክብር እንሰጣቸዋለን! :mrgreen:

ጀግናው ዘለንስኪ ባያነሳ ጋሻ፡
በቦረቀ ነበረ አውሮፓ ላይ ራሻ። :mrgreen:

ወራሪ ከሰሜን ይምጣ ከደቡብ ከምስራቅ ይምጣ ከምዕራብ ወራሪ ነው፡ በህዝብ ትግልም ይሸነፋል![ አራት ሚሊየን ነጥቦች]

ክሬሚያ ሆይ ብረሳሽ ቀኜ ትርሳኝ!” ቀኜ ትርሳኝ” እያለ ነው የኣውሮፓው ሻዕብያ፡ ዘለንስኪ ጀግናው!

Fedorov: 1,765 UAVs purchased for Drone Army


As part of the Drone Army project, 1,765 drones have been purchased for a total sum of $3.4 billion, and 3,500 military personnel have been trained to operate them.

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Digital Transformation Mykhailo Fedorov said this in an interview with RBC, Ukrinform reports.

"This is a technological war, it is necessary to use UAVs more effectively and save the lives of our soldiers. That is why the Drone Army project was launched as part of the fundraising platform UNITED24. Over eight months of work, it has already contracted 1,765 ‘birds’ for a total sum of $3.4 billion. We also train drone pilots. More than 3,500 soldiers have already undergone such training," Fedorov noted.

He emphasized that Ukraine needs even more UAVs, in particular those that can “see” up to 50 kilometers away. This will help save the lives of Ukrainian soldiers, as well as repel enemy attacks more effectively.

As reported, Drone Army is a project initiated by the General Staff of the Armed Forces and the Ministry of Digital Transformation. This is a comprehensive program, which includes the systematic purchase of drones, their repair, as well as training courses for relevant specialists. The project was launched on July 1, 2022.

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ሲጠቃለል
መለስ = ፑቲን = የማሌ (የማርክስና የሌኒን ግርፍ) ልዑላዊ ሃገሮችን የወረሩ ወፈፌ መሪዎች

የታላቋ ትግራይ ህልም = የታላቋ ሩስያ ህልም = የታላቋ ጦቢያ ህልም

ደደቢት ብቻ ኣይደለም ደደብ፤ ሩስያም (ክሬምሊንም) ጭምር ደደብ ነው!

ዘለንስኪ ጀግና ነው!

ድል ለሰፊው የዩክሬን ህዝብ!
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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 15 Feb 2023, 10:22

Can Russia's nuclear weapons reach the United States?
Mats Andersson

Have you ever heard of the Sputnik?

One October day in 1958, USA woke up to the news that the Soviets had put a satellite in orbit.

Except for the American generals. They woke up to the news that the Soviets could drop nukes absolutely anywhere in the US at their leisure. That shook them quite badly, because they didn’t have the same capacity.

Seriously, why do you think the Space Race happened in the first place? ICBMs were the goal, not some sort of by-product. It was the Moon landings that were the by-products.

And the Soviets were ahead for quite a long time.

As a topical side note, the Soviet rockets were developed by arguably the best rocket scientist in history, Sergei Korolev—who was not Russian at all, but Ukrainian.

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 16 Feb 2023, 10:40

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Kuleba Announced Unpleasant "surprises" for the russian Federation on the Anniversary of the Invasion.
by Neil Hawker

"There will be many important political signals, there will be decisions on sanctions, weapons, there will be symbols of unity, and this will happen at all levels. russia will remember how the world will mark the anniversary of its full-scale aggression against Ukraine".



And we hope that there will be surprises from the ZSU, GUR, who certainly know how to send "gifts" to the orcs.
How does Vladimir Putin make money?
Sylvain Saurel's
Are you wondering how Vladimir Putin makes money?


Well, it's pretty simple.

Like all dictators around the world, Putin steals what belongs to the people. Russia is full of all kinds of natural resources that it can sell to the rest of the world. This generates billions of dollars in revenue every year for Russia.

Needless to say, Putin takes a lot of money in the process.

For a long time, it was whispered that he was the richest man in the world. A fortune estimated at more than 200 billion dollars.

A politician who would like to serve his people could not have such a fortune, you will agree, even if you are an absolute fan of the Kremlin propaganda.

Something is wrong in Russia and Putin is at the root of all the country's ills. He is squandering Russia's future for generations just to preserve his absolute power as long as possible.

Something terrible that even a defeat of Russia in Ukraine will not be able to correct. The Russian people have no hope for a better tomorrow anymore. And the fault lies with the dictator Putin.
እስቲ በካርቱኒስቶች ፈጠራ እንዝናና


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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Assegid S. » 16 Feb 2023, 14:06

ወንድም መለከት ሰላምታዬ ይድረስህ ብያለሁ።

ትንሽ ጊዜ ሳገኝ ሃሳቤን ሰፋ አድርጌ ለመፃፍ እሞክራለሁ ብዬ ባስብም ለአሁኑ ግን ከጥያቄህ ርዕስ ጋር ያለኝን ልዩነት ልግለፅ ። እኔ የክሬሚያ ጊዜም ሆነ በኣሁኑ ጦርነት ተፋላሚ ሀይሎቹ ራሺያና ዩክሬን ናቸው ብዬ አላስብም። ስለዚህም the "Ukraine/Russia war" በሚለው ርዕስ ላይ ልዩነት አለኝ። እንደ እኔ እምነት ይህ ጦርነት በኣንድ በኩል የአሜሪካን እና ኣውሮፓ (NATO) በሌላ በኩል ደግሞ የራሺያ ጦርነት እንጂ የዩክሬን እና የራሺያ አይደለም።

ይህን ጦርነት በተመለከት ኣንድ ምሳሌያዊ ስዕል አስቀምጥ ብባል እንዲህ እላለሁ ... አሜሪካን እና አውሮፓን እንደ ኣንድ አሳ አጥማጅ ሰው እመስላቸዋለሁ። አሳው ራሺያ ስትሆን ዩክሬን ደግሞ በአሳ ማጥመጃው ሽቦ (ገመድ) በስተመጨረሻ ላይ የተንጠለጠለችው፣ አሳውን ማማለያ የምት ሆን ትንሽ ስጋ ወይም ነፍሳት ናት። እናም ... የአሳ አጥማጆቹ እሳቤ ... አሳው (ራሺያ) ማማለያውን ስጋ ሲውጥ መንጠቆውን አንገቱ ላይ ቀርቅረን ከባህሩ እናወጣዋለን የሚል ነበር። ነገር ግን ያልጠበቁት ነው የሆነው (እየሆነ) ያለው። አሳው ማማለያውን ስጋ በብልሀት እና በቅፅበት ነጥቆ አምልጧል። ቂላቂሏ ዩክሬን ያልገባት እውነት ግን ምንግዜም ... ሁሌም ቢሆን ለማማለያ አሳ ማጥመጃው ላይ የሚቀመጠው ስጋም ይሁን ሌላ አካል VICTIM (DEAD) እንደሆነ ወይም እንደሚሆን ነው። ስለዚህ በባህሩ ዳርቻ የምንመለከተው ግብግብ በአሳ አጥማጁና በአሳው መካከል እንጂ በማማለያው አካልና በአሳው መካከል አይደለም ባይ ነኝ። ግብግቡም ሰፊ ጊዜ የሚያስፈልገው ፓለቲካዊ፣ ኢኮኖሚያዊና ማህበራዊ ምክንያት (መነሾ) አለው። ነገሬን ካበዛሁ ይቅርታ እየጠየኩ በዚሁ ላጠቃል።

ሰላም ሁን ወንድም መለከት 8)

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 17 Feb 2023, 09:06

ወንድም Assegid S. ሰላምህ ይብዛ!

ምልከታህና ምሳሌህ ግሩም ነው፡ ወድጄዋለሁ። እዪታህንም በጭዋነትና በስልጡን መንገድ ስለምታቀርብ ምስጋናዬም ይድረስህ። ወደ ምልከታህ ስንሄድ፡ በዩክሬኖች ዓይን ሲታይ ይህ ምልከታህ ቅቡል ኣይደለም። ኣስበው እስቲ 'ኢትዮጵያዉያን ኣርበኞች' ከፋሽስቱ ጣልያን ጋር ሲፋለሙ፡ የቃልኪዳኑ ሰራዊት ደግሞ ኢትዮጵያንና ኣርበኞቿን ኣግዞ መሪዋንም ከለንደን ሱዳን፡ ከሱዳን በኦሜድላ በኩል ወደ ኣዲስ አበባ ሲያስገባቸው፡ ፋሽስቱን ጣልያንን በያገኘበት ሲያደባይ፤ ይህን ክስተት ኣንዱ ተነስቶ “ይህ ጉዳይ የጣልያንና የኢትዮጵያ ሳይሆን፡ የጣልያንና የእንግሊዝ ጉዳዪ ነው፡ ኢትዮጵያ ኣዳማቂ ናት” ቢል፤ “እንግሊዝ ኣሳ ኣጥማጅ፡ ጣልያን ዓሳ፡ ኢትዮጵያውያን ኣርበኞች ደግሞ ኣሳ ማስገሪያው ላይ የተንጠለጠሉ አሳውን ማማለያ ነፍሳት ናቸው” ቢል፡ ማን ሊያምነው ይችላል? ጉዳዩ የልዑላዊነትና የህግ የበላይነት ጉዳይ መሆኑን ኣብዛኛው ህዝብ ስለሚያውቅ፡ ማንም ኣያምነውም።

ደርጉ በራሻ ግዙፍ ወታደራዊና ዲፕሎማሲያዊ ድጋፍ የኤርትራ የነጻነት ታጋዮችን ሊደፈጥጥና ሊደመስስ ተነስቶ በነበረበት ወቅት፡ ኤርትራውያን የነጻነት ታጋዮችን “የኢምፔሪያሊስት ሃይሎች ቅጥረኞች” ይላቸው ነበር። ታዲያ ያኔም “ጨዋታው የኮሚኒስት ሃይሎች (ራሻና ደርግ) እና የኢምፔሪያሊስ ሃይሎች ጉዳይ ነው፡ ኤርትራውያን ታጋዮች ደግሞ መቋመሪያ ነው የነበሩት” ሊባል ይቻላልን? . . . በኛ በኤርትራውያን ስሌት “ኣይቻልም” ነው መልሱ። እላዪ በተቀመጠው ምሳሌ መሰረትም “ዓሳው ደርጉ፡ ዓሳ ኣስጋሪው ኢምፔሪያሊስቱ ኃይል፡ የኤርትራ ዬነጻነት ታጋዮች ደግሞ ኣሳ ማስገሪያው ላይ የተንጠለጠሉ ዓሳውን ማማለያ ነፍሳት ናቸው” ወይም በተቃራኒው ማለት ይቻላልን? በኛ በኤርትራውያን ምልከታ “ኣይቻልም” ነው መልሱ፤ ምክንያቱም ኣሁንም ጉዳዩ የልዑላዊነትና የህግ የበላይነት ጉዳይ ነውና።

በመሆኑም የዩክሬን ጉዳይ ከምንም ነገር በፊት የልዑላዊነት እና የህግ የበላይነት ጉዳዪ ነው። ዩክሬን ስትመሰረትና በዩኤን ውስጥ ስፍራ ስታገኝ፡ ይህ ነው ዬተባለ ደንበር ያላትና እውቅና የተሰጠች ሃገር ነች። በሃገሯ ድንበር ውስጥ እንዳሻት የመሆን ሙሉ የማይገረሰስ መብት አላት። የራሻው ፑቲን፡ ኃይልና ጡንቻ ኣለኝ በማለት፡ ይህንን መብቷን ደፍጥጦ ሊቆጣጠራትና፡ ታላቋን ሶቭዬት ህብረት ዳግም ለመገንባት ባለው ህልም መሰረት ሊደፈጥጣት እየተሟሟተ ነው። የዘመናችን የቃል ኪዳኑ ሃገሮችም “ነውር” ነው፡ በማለት ራሻን እንደልቡ ወታደራዊ ድልን እንዳይጎናጸፍ፡ ለዓለም ሰላም ከማን ኣለብኝነትና ኣደፍራሽ ሚናው እንዲታገስ፡ ወረራውም እንዲቀለበስ፡ የዩክሬንን ህዝብና መንግስት ደግፈው ይገኛሉ። ይህ የህግ የበላይነትና የልዑላዊነት ጉዳይ በመሆኑም፡ ኣብዛኛው የዓለም ህዝብና መንግስታት፡ በሞራልም በማቴሪያልም በዲፕሎማሲም በወዘተም ከዩክሬን ህዝብና መንግስት ጎን ቆሞ ይገኛል። ባጠቅላዪ እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች፡ ይህን ጉዳይ ከሉዓላዊነትና ከህግ የበላይነት ኣኳያ ነው የምናዬው፤ ለዚያም ነው ከዩክሬን ህዝብ ጎን በመቆም ወራሪውን ፑቲን የምናወግዘው።

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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Wedi » 17 Feb 2023, 09:15

ሰላም Meleket የአብይ አህመድ እርካብና መንበር መጽሀፉ አለህ? መጻሀፉ ካለህ እስኪ እነዚህን 2 ገጾች /74 and 75/ ፎቶኮፒ አድርገ ላክልኝ/ወይም የሆነ ቦታ አፕሎድ አድርገህ ከዚህ ፖስትልኝ፡፡
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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Meleket » 17 Feb 2023, 09:46

ወዳጄ Wedi ያልከው መጸሓፍ ዬለንም፡ ይቺን ጥያቄህን ወደ የብልጽግና ካድሬዎች ብታቀናት፡ ተሟሙተውም ቢሆን ባልከው መጸሓፍ ያሉትን የሁለቱ ገጾች ይዘት ሊያጋሩህ ይችላሉ። :mrgreen:
Wedi wrote:
17 Feb 2023, 09:15
ሰላም Meleket የአብይ አህመድ እርካብና መንበር መጽሀፉ አለህ? መጻሀፉ ካለህ እስኪ እነዚህን 2 ገጾች /74 and 75/ ፎቶኮፒ አድርገ ላክልኝ/ወይም የሆነ ቦታ አፕሎድ አድርገህ ከዚህ ፖስትልኝ፡፡
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Re: What is the real truth behind the Ukraine/Russia war? ሰዉየው ምን እያለ ነው?

Post by Wedi » 17 Feb 2023, 09:54

Meleket wrote:
17 Feb 2023, 09:46
ወዳጄ Wedi ያልከው መጸሓፍ ዬለንም፡ ይቺን ጥያቄህን ወደ የብልጽግና ካድሬዎች ብታቀናት፡ ተሟሙተውም ቢሆን ባልከው መጸሓፍ ያሉትን የሁለቱ ገጾች ይዘት ሊያጋሩህ ይችላሉ። :mrgreen:
Wedi wrote:
17 Feb 2023, 09:15
ሰላም Meleket የአብይ አህመድ እርካብና መንበር መጽሀፉ አለህ? መጻሀፉ ካለህ እስኪ እነዚህን 2 ገጾች /74 and 75/ ፎቶኮፒ አድርገ ላክልኝ/ወይም የሆነ ቦታ አፕሎድ አድርገህ ከዚህ ፖስትልኝ፡፡
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Meleket ለመልሱ አመሰግናለሁ!! ወደ የብልጽግና ካድሬዎች ሂዶ ገጾቹን ላኩልኝ ከማለት አብይ አህመድ ራሱን ፌስክ ገጹ ላይ ሂጀ ላክልኝ ለማለት ወስኛለሁ፡፡ ከለመኑ አይቀር ከዋናው ከባለቤት መጠየቅ ሳይሻል አይቀርም!! 8) :lol:

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