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Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by Odie » 07 Dec 2024, 23:44

Is Fano ready to storm in on Addis and oust the ethnofascist “God chosens”? :mrgreen:
How long should be the waiting?

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by Misraq » 08 Dec 2024, 00:03

FANO will definitely enter Addis. The Syrian battle is ongoing for over 12 years now. Plus Syrian rebels get massive outside help. FANO with zero outside help performed heroic deeds and is positioning itself for the next final step.

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by Agazi General » 08 Dec 2024, 01:06

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by Educator » 08 Dec 2024, 02:48

No, Fano is yet to end its internal power struggle. The Fano elites are fighting amongst themselves since they ever realized the satan Mamo Killo adminstration is so weakened that it can be overthrown with just stones. You can even see how they act on this forum. Little they know they are tearing themselves and the hope of the Ethiopian people.
Odie wrote:
07 Dec 2024, 23:44
Is Fano ready to storm in on Addis and oust the ethnofascist “God chosens”? :mrgreen:
How long should be the waiting?

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by Odie » 08 Dec 2024, 05:27

Misraq wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 00:03
FANO will definitely enter Addis. The Syrian battle is ongoing for over 12 years now. Plus Syrian rebels get massive outside help. FANO with zero outside help performed heroic deeds and is positioning itself for the next final step.
The syrian rebels were riding on the back of tanks. Amazing. It appears, they are armed to teeth. For sure either the Turks or some one has charged them enough. Fano is doing all current damage to julias ወንበር ጠባቂ ቄሮ without drones and tanks and may be artilery. When Fano gets some of this gadgets, the “God chosens” shall be history. That is our intellectual prophesy-not fetched from waqa or the devil :lol: In the mean time Fano has to be increasingly smart to appease international society and helpers to get the job done. ጣያስፖራ ነብስህ አይማር!!

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 08 Dec 2024, 09:39

Odie wrote:
07 Dec 2024, 23:44
Is Fano ready to storm in on Addis and oust the ethnofascist “God chosens”? :mrgreen:
How long should be the waiting?
If anything is certain so far, then it is the certain fall of Syria into the club of the likes of Iraq, Libya, Somalia and more. And you are quick in wishing the same for Ethiopia, exposing yourself thereby one more time.

The time of toppling a established administration by means of violence and hoping for stability is the thing of the past, we can list many examples in the region and around the world.

Those who came by the power of the gun can only go by another power of the gun, case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia, Eritrea's EPLF is still in the waiting room.

The problem is not what you are scribbling under multiple nicks every single day while there are also many who will willingly subscribe to your diatribe, the core problem is rather something different, you can have a look at it here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=354457

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by Odie » 08 Dec 2024, 11:06

DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 09:39
Odie wrote:
07 Dec 2024, 23:44
Is Fano ready to storm in on Addis and oust the ethnofascist “God chosens”? :mrgreen:
How long should be the waiting?
If anything is certain so far, then it is the certain fall of Syria into the club of the likes of Iraq, Libya, Somalia and more. And you are quick in wishing the same for Ethiopia, exposing yourself thereby one more time.

The time of toppling a established administration by means of violence and hoping for stability is the thing of the past, we can list many examples in the region and around the world.

Those who came by the power of the gun can only go by another power of the gun, case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia, Eritrea's EPLF is still in the waiting room.

The problem is not what you are scribbling under multiple nicks every single day while there are also many who will willingly subscribe to your diatribe, the core problem is rather something different, you can have a look at it here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=354457
Shut up "ጉሊቻ". Anything is better than you :lol:
As for me what Oromuma says does not count at all except the following:
1. If you accept this is your government which is a fascist, sooner or later expect to be thrown out. This system is nothing less than oromo gangs and their cronies.

2. The next choice you have is just to organize yourself to work with others to get your share but the lion’s share, the robbery, crime and ransacking will be taken away from you.
Until then continue soiling the forum :lol: :lol:

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by Dejach Aklilu » 08 Dec 2024, 11:49

Rural areas of amhara are surprisingly full of fanos, Times reports fano is casually setting up checkpoints, ask coach passengers for funds, passengers asking for selfies..abiy has lost amhara for good. Military power can only hold urban areas, even Italy never managed to conquer rural amhara. BUT fano isn't a mature organisation yet still suffering from growing problems like infighting and regionalism. It also doesn't have a grand strategy and steps to implement it. Conquering addis- my city is not hard for fano, but then what.. I would like fano activists to answer that question. How will you deal with the mother of uprisings that will engulf oromia from wollega to dire dawa chanting finfinee kegna.. fano and its activists need to understand Oromos of this generation are completely independent of ethiopia both in mind and spirit. Only a once a millenia type of shrewd operator that can save ethiopia from the circle of violence, we will see if that operator can come out of the factions of fano. I wish them well.

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by sarcasm » 08 Dec 2024, 12:15

Mutually exclusive statements cannot be both true

DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 09:39

Those who came by the power of the gun can only go by another power of the gun, case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia
If TPLF has gone by 'power of the gun' as you stated, then whoever came after them MUST have come by power of the gun. Toppling an established administration by means of violence and hoping for stability wouldn't be a thing of the past. Your capacity to believe in two contradictory propositions to be both true in the same time amazes me.

Also, it would be also be natural for those who came after TPLF to go by power of the gun as per your logic. (Remember you stated TPLF went by by power of the gun).
DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 09:39

The time of toppling a established administration by means of violence and hoping for stability is the thing of the past

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by fasil1235 » 08 Dec 2024, 14:05

Fano is essentially divided into provincial warlords that are disorganized and unable to hold cities for days

Fano doesn't have drones like the Syrian rebels

Fano doesn't have tanks

Fano doesn't have artillery

Fano is not in a position to head to Addis

Shewa oromos can block fano

Fano and Shene rely heavily on ground support as they lack the weaponry and organization to hold enemy grounds

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 08 Dec 2024, 14:09

sarcasm,

even if we disagree on any of the political views of our country, I think of you as someone that doesn't believe in a blind denial of the facts on the ground.

TPLF came to power by a means of gun violence, toppling the preceding government of the Derg. Then it stayed on for over 3 decades. After it was forced out by means of public revolt, mind you this was not a violent usurpation of power but peaceful, still didn't want to come into terms with it and opened a war of insurrection against the state to topple this one too, in the year 2020. You forgot that? It was defeated by the means its own choice.

Did I add anything?

The clique in Eritrea is still in the waiting to face the same fate to that of TPLF.

Are you telling me means of violence can stabilize a state after grab of state power? In that case you could be the most sought after advisor for many places in the world, like in Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Syria and many more to lend your thoughts on that. You could be paid in millions if you can help them achieve a stable government.


sarcasm wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 12:15
Mutually exclusive statements cannot be both true

DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 09:39

Those who came by the power of the gun can only go by another power of the gun, case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia
If TPLF has gone by 'power of the gun' as you stated, then whoever came after them MUST have come by power of the gun. Toppling an established administration by means of violence and hoping for stability wouldn't be a thing of the past. Your capacity to believe in two contradictory propositions to be both true in the same time amazes me.

Also, it would be also be natural for those who came after TPLF to go by power of the gun as per your logic. (Remember you stated TPLF went by by power of the gun).
DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 09:39

The time of toppling a established administration by means of violence and hoping for stability is the thing of the past

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by sarcasm » 09 Dec 2024, 06:02

DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 14:09
sarcasm,

even if we disagree on any of the political views of our country, I think of you as someone that doesn't believe in a blind denial of the facts on the ground.

TPLF came to power by a means of gun violence, toppling the preceding government of the Derg. Then it stayed on for over 3 decades. After it was forced out by means of public revolt, mind you this was not a violent usurpation of power but peaceful, still didn't want to come into terms with it and opened a war of insurrection against the state to topple this one too, in the year 2020. You forgot that? It was defeated by the means its own choice.

Did I add anything?

The clique in Eritrea is still in the waiting to face the same fate to that of TPLF.

Are you telling me means of violence can stabilize a state after grab of state power? In that case you could be the most sought after advisor for many places in the world, like in Libya, Iraq, Yemen, Syria and many more to lend your thoughts on that. You could be paid in millions if you can help them achieve a stable government.


sarcasm wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 12:15
Mutually exclusive statements cannot be both true

DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 09:39

Those who came by the power of the gun can only go by another power of the gun, case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia
If TPLF has gone by 'power of the gun' as you stated, then whoever came after them MUST have come by power of the gun. Toppling an established administration by means of violence and hoping for stability wouldn't be a thing of the past. Your capacity to believe in two contradictory propositions to be both true in the same time amazes me.

Also, it would be also be natural for those who came after TPLF to go by power of the gun as per your logic. (Remember you stated TPLF went by by power of the gun).
DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Dec 2024, 09:39

The time of toppling a established administration by means of violence and hoping for stability is the thing of the past
Hi Defend,

If you are talking about ruling Tigray, then the statement "Those who came by the power of the gun can only go by another power of the gun case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia" is false as TPLF is still ruling Tigray staring from 1980s.

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Dec 2024, 06:46

sarcasm wrote:
09 Dec 2024, 06:02

Hi Defend,

If you are talking about ruling Tigray, then the statement "Those who came by the power of the gun can only go by another power of the gun case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia" is false as TPLF is still ruling Tigray staring from 1980s.
Hi sarcasm,

well, you have successfully deviated the issue at hand, likely consciously.

Well, I am not so dead sure, if TPLF is indeed ruling Tigray itself effectively now. It has lost its grip on power there too, but I was not talking about a country called Tigray.

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by sarcasm » 09 Dec 2024, 09:21

DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Dec 2024, 06:46
I was not talking about a country called Tigray.
Hi Defend,

Ok. In regards to power in federal government:

Has the TPLF lost power by the power of gun?

If Yes, then whoever came after TPLF "can only go by another power of the gun" per your logic.

If No, then then the statement "case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia" is false.

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 09 Dec 2024, 10:19

Hi sarcasm,

ዙሪያ ጥምጥም አትህድ እባክህ! ደብረብርሃን ደርሶ ነበር እኮ እንድመለሱ የተደረጉት፣ ምነው እንደዚህ ቶሎ ትረሳለህ?

You were posting an article from the year 2021 and I thought you have got stuck to a time in the past. What else did they forget in Addis to march all the way upto 100 KM before the gates of Addis? And don't forget the price that was paid for the adventure!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
sarcasm wrote:
09 Dec 2024, 09:21
DefendTheTruth wrote:
09 Dec 2024, 06:46
I was not talking about a country called Tigray.
Hi Defend,

Ok. In regards to power in federal government:

Has the TPLF lost power by the power of gun?

If Yes, then whoever came after TPLF "can only go by another power of the gun" per your logic.

If No, then then the statement "case in point in our own vicinity are the likes of TPLF of Ethiopia" is false.

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Re: Can Fano learning something from the advancement of syrian rebels to the capital demascus?

Post by Abere » 09 Dec 2024, 10:51

Of course there are certain things Fano can learn from Syrian rebels.

--- First and Foremost, persevering and keeping the fight alive. The Syrian rebels fought almost 14 years. Thus, Fano should be strategic to keep the fight for freedom (no matter what) alive.

--- Second, Fano should learn how to take an opportune moment. That strike when the iron is hot. For instance, at the start of the real fight, Fano took over most major Amhara cities, chased ገረድ Be'Aden entirely out of Amhara region. Capitalize on every victory gained.

--- Third, Fano should be careful about some sold out Diaspora. The vulture diaspora are more loyal to Abiy Ahmed -Orommuma than to the cause of Fano. Vulture diaspora are only after a prize for condominiums, plot of land, free airline ticket , free hotel accommodation and may positions for cheap fames. Diaspora is the chronic disease for Fano and Amhara people well being. If one watched the Syrian diaspora all over the world - they share common sentiment and devotion and patriotism. The Ethiopian diaspora is prostituting for money and other tips from dictators. Who forgets what Washington DC diaspora did , k!ssing the dirty feet of the dirty monster; and of course so-called diaspora opposition leaders who packed and flew overnight without asking any preconditions -only an OPDO from EPRDF replaced TPLF from EPRDF.

--- Fano should have its own dedicated Media of communication - a standard voice where its stance and statements are formally communicated. Ordinary citizens without any ambiguity will have valid information about Fano. Fano's struggle is exploited by cash collector YouTubers (most of whom are double agents of OLF/PP ) and Abiy Ahmed also is exploiting their weakness to spread falsehood about them. The Syrian rebels have dedicated leader and communication.

---- Fano should try to procure less expensive sophostciated weapons. Drones are one of the areas where Fano can easily obtain.

******There are areas where Fano is even much better than Syrian Rebels.
--- Fano is believed to be a unifier than a force of division and hatred. The enemy of Fano very well knows from the bottom of their hearts Fano stands for united Ethiopia. The way it treats captive OLF armies is a proof.

--- The Syrian rebels are tools for foreign elements and they owe them credit and gratitude. That will likely cost Syrian interest in the long term. Fano will not short sale Ethiopian interest. The very reason OLF, TPLF and Shabia created was because these are trusted weapons against Ethiopia. It is very hard to enlist support from any foreign force, because these forces are entirely against what Fano is fighting for. The silence about Amhara genocide by the world is a clear evidence. But when Fano build the momentum and keep the fight, the diehard enemies start to lose hop.

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