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just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
HGDEF will ally with anyone and anything to survive.
That has nothing to do with people to people relation. Eritrea and Ethiopia people remain family. Same goes with people in Egypt, Somalia etc etc. We are all family.
Egypt current rulers are most hated in Egyptian history. I would be shocked if they add one more year to their rule. Eritreans are smart people who know their real enemy is in Adi Halo. Ethiopians are smart people who know their real enemy is in Arat Kilo.
Dear Ethiopians, Egypt is not the enemy, Somalia is not the enemy, Eritrea is not the enemy. The enemy of the people is Abiy. Keep your focus on the devil incarnate.
That has nothing to do with people to people relation. Eritrea and Ethiopia people remain family. Same goes with people in Egypt, Somalia etc etc. We are all family.
Egypt current rulers are most hated in Egyptian history. I would be shocked if they add one more year to their rule. Eritreans are smart people who know their real enemy is in Adi Halo. Ethiopians are smart people who know their real enemy is in Arat Kilo.
Dear Ethiopians, Egypt is not the enemy, Somalia is not the enemy, Eritrea is not the enemy. The enemy of the people is Abiy. Keep your focus on the devil incarnate.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
Agame eden, whose side are you on?
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
^^^^ እቺ ቅንቅናም አጋሜ ኤርትርዊ ነኝ እያለች ነው:: እፍረት ሚባል ቀረ እነ starvin Marvin አገር?
ሁሉም ንጹህ ኤርትራዊ the founding father aka ሻእቢያ ነው::
ሁሉም ንጹህ ኤርትራዊ the founding father aka ሻእቢያ ነው::
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
Eden your argument is half true. We know there is no animosity between Ethiopians and Eritreans. You are right on that. But your argument that Isayes was collaborating with Al Sisi because he is against Abiy, not Ethiopia, does make no sense.
In fact, it is a downright senseless argument.
To know whether Isayes is against the interest of Ethiopia or not, you start by questioning the interest of Egypt. Does Egypt want a weak, divided, and if possible, disintegrated Ethiopia along ethnic lines ? Yes. So a leader of a country who shuttles between Asmara and Cairo as a request of Cairo , it seems, every other week is a friend of Ethiopia ?
You do not need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Isayes lives in fantasy world. The Eritrea liberation movement has a long history. As the ancient liberation movement in the region, it had influenced movements which mushroomed in Ethiopia against the Ethiopian regime. Isayes was the so called king maker. He seemed to have missed that “glory.”
But the Ethiopia of today is way different than the Ethiopia of thirty five or so years ago. The Ethiopia of today does not have a room to accommodate Isayes’ exclusive interest.
He can make friendly good relationship with Ethiopia. But he cannot have the chance to interfere with the internal politics of Ethiopia. The more he is willing to be subservient to the Cairo’s wish, the number one enemy Ethiopia finds him to be. Ethiopians are divided regarding the politics of the current administration in Ethiopia. Don’t be fooled by that. When foreign countries are trying to sabotage, degrade, and attack the interest of Ethiopia politics takes a totally different tone. The sooner that sinks in, the better for the regional peace.
In fact, it is a downright senseless argument.
To know whether Isayes is against the interest of Ethiopia or not, you start by questioning the interest of Egypt. Does Egypt want a weak, divided, and if possible, disintegrated Ethiopia along ethnic lines ? Yes. So a leader of a country who shuttles between Asmara and Cairo as a request of Cairo , it seems, every other week is a friend of Ethiopia ?
You do not need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Isayes lives in fantasy world. The Eritrea liberation movement has a long history. As the ancient liberation movement in the region, it had influenced movements which mushroomed in Ethiopia against the Ethiopian regime. Isayes was the so called king maker. He seemed to have missed that “glory.”
But the Ethiopia of today is way different than the Ethiopia of thirty five or so years ago. The Ethiopia of today does not have a room to accommodate Isayes’ exclusive interest.
He can make friendly good relationship with Ethiopia. But he cannot have the chance to interfere with the internal politics of Ethiopia. The more he is willing to be subservient to the Cairo’s wish, the number one enemy Ethiopia finds him to be. Ethiopians are divided regarding the politics of the current administration in Ethiopia. Don’t be fooled by that. When foreign countries are trying to sabotage, degrade, and attack the interest of Ethiopia politics takes a totally different tone. The sooner that sinks in, the better for the regional peace.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
The people of Egypt do not think politics everyday, like the people of every other countries. It is the politicians. But when politicians turn to the politics of nationalism, they have the power to rally the majority of their people.
I do not think the Egypt posturing is that serious. It is a calculated diplomatic effort to refrain Ethiopia from following the same trend in the future. The way Egypt does her politics in that regard however is very amateurish, if not childish.
I do not think the Egypt posturing is that serious. It is a calculated diplomatic effort to refrain Ethiopia from following the same trend in the future. The way Egypt does her politics in that regard however is very amateurish, if not childish.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
Affable,
Are you myopic or something ? Why is the subservien feminine Abbiy was conspiring against Eritrea at the behest of his master, the UAE leader. Do you know, Isayas’ misguided policy, trying to save Abbiy’s behind placed Eritrea in this mess. Yes, glory to mighty Egypt any time. Egyptian good deeds to Eritreans goes back to 1961. Fu..ck you. Yes, Egypt is the Eritrean’s people best friend. A friend in deed is a friend in need. Despite Isayas, Eritrea will flourish and stay independent.
Are you myopic or something ? Why is the subservien feminine Abbiy was conspiring against Eritrea at the behest of his master, the UAE leader. Do you know, Isayas’ misguided policy, trying to save Abbiy’s behind placed Eritrea in this mess. Yes, glory to mighty Egypt any time. Egyptian good deeds to Eritreans goes back to 1961. Fu..ck you. Yes, Egypt is the Eritrean’s people best friend. A friend in deed is a friend in need. Despite Isayas, Eritrea will flourish and stay independent.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
The Dark Abid Jeberti Concubine of the Muslim Arabs have no shame. To this Arab Abid, the savage Arab Muslim Egyptian master is closer to him than the Christian Eritrean suffering in the hand of the Arabs.Dark Energy wrote: ↑10 Oct 2024, 22:34... Egypt is the Eritrean’s people best friend. A friend in deed is a friend in need. Despite Isayas, Eritrea will flourish and stay independent.
The opportunist Arab Muslims "love" for Eritreans is long known, it is branded on their backs in hot iron, like cattle driven to the slaughter house. An Arab only comes to your house to use you, abuse your daughters, burn your languages, desecrate your faith identity, take your land and take you to slave market in Arabia.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
Old man Agame adgi Mesob,
Take out the jeberti [deleted] out your smelly Agame mouth. Wediza Hiram.
Take out the jeberti [deleted] out your smelly Agame mouth. Wediza Hiram.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
The Arab Abid Concubines may come to Ethiopian Mereja one hundred times but there is nothing good news coming from Eritrea, while sleeping with their savage Arab masters. The Arabs could not even support the slaves and the destitute Sudanese who kiss stinky Arab azzz five times a day.
The opportunist Arab Muslims "love" for Eritreans is long known, it is branded on their backs in hot iron, like cattle driven to the slaughter house. An Arab only comes to your house to use you, abuse your daughters, burn your languages, desecrate your faith identity, take your land and take you to slave market in Arabia.
The Dark Abid Jeberti Concubine of the Muslim Arabs have no shame. To this Arab Abid, the savage Arab Muslim Egyptian master is closer to him than the Christian Eritrean suffering in the hand of the Arabs.Dark Energy wrote: ↑10 Oct 2024, 22:34... Egypt is the Eritrean’s people best friend. A friend in deed is a friend in need. Despite Isayas, Eritrea will flourish and stay independent.
The opportunist Arab Muslims "love" for Eritreans is long known, it is branded on their backs in hot iron, like cattle driven to the slaughter house. An Arab only comes to your house to use you, abuse your daughters, burn your languages, desecrate your faith identity, take your land and take you to slave market in Arabia.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
eden wrote: ↑10 Oct 2024, 20:47HGDEF will ally with anyone and anything to survive.
That has nothing to do with people to people relation. Eritrea and Ethiopia people remain family. Same goes with people in Egypt, Somalia etc etc. We are all family.
Egypt current rulers are most hated in Egyptian history. I would be shocked if they add one more year to their rule. Eritreans are smart people who know their real enemy is in Adi Halo. Ethiopians are smart people who know their real enemy is in Arat Kilo.
Dear Ethiopians, Egypt is not the enemy, Somalia is not the enemy, Eritrea is not the enemy. The enemy of the people is Abiy. Keep your focus on the devil incarnate.
That has nothing to do with people to people relation. Eritrea and Ethiopia people remain family. Same goes with people in Egypt, Somalia etc etc. We are all family.
You're dead wrong. Better speak only for your own arse and stop blabbering on for others.
Speaking only for my Somali people, I can assure you that we do not distinguish between Ethiopians, or between clown monkey Abiy and the rest of Ethiopians. For us, they're all the same fuc'kers. And saying that "We are all family" is an insult to us, as we Somalis are by no means any family with any Ethiopian. Ethiopians have perfected the art of playing this and, make no mistake, we're not fooled by this:
It wasn't Ethiopia or Ethiopians, it was God.
It wasn't Ethiopia or Ethiopians, it was Italians,
It wasn't Ethiopia or Ethiopians, it was Menelik.
It wasn't Ethiopia or Ethiopians, it was Haile Selassie.
It wasn't Ethiopia or Ethiopia, it was the DERG and Mengistu,
It wasn't Ethiopia or Ethiopians, it was the TPLF and Zenawi.
It's not Ethiopia or Ethiopians, it's the PP and clown Abiy.
Where have the fuc'king Ethiopian people been when all the above were happening?
How many Ethiopians, including those aboard, have protested, even with a pen, against Ethiopia's late unjust demonisation of Eritrea to the West, which led to severe sanctions being unfairly imposed on Eritrea? ZERO.
How many Ethiopians, including those abroad, have protested, even with a pen, against Ethiopia's invasion in Somalia and the indiscriminate killings of civilians by its troops in Mogadishu? ZERO.
How many Ethiopians, including those abroad, are protesting, even with a pen, against Ethiopia's illegal MoU with a region of Somalia? ZERO.
How many Ethiopians on this fuc'king forum alone are against Ethiopia's unlawful MoU with a region of Somalia? ZERO.
Therefore, give me a break and go wipe your ar'se with your stupid "we're all family rhetoric.
You're a fuc'king deluded ignorant idiot. You all call us a family, when even the often parroted fuc'king Horn of Africa is nothing more than a mere geographical region, where all the countries in this region share nothing more than disputed borders and conflicts. In fact, we share more with other countries outside the HoA, as we share peace and mutual respect with them. While, in the HoA, we don't even share basic peace and good neighbourship between us.
FYI, Ethiopians are the historical enemies of the Somali people and remain as such to date. We treat them as our enemies without distinguishing between them along their fuc'king ethnic backgrounds or who was in power when.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
Edu,eden wrote: ↑10 Oct 2024, 20:47HGDEF will ally with anyone and anything to survive.
That has nothing to do with people to people relation. Eritrea and Ethiopia people remain family. Same goes with people in Egypt, Somalia etc etc. We are all family.
Egypt current rulers are most hated in Egyptian history. I would be shocked if they add one more year to their rule. Eritreans are smart people who know their real enemy is in Adi Halo. Ethiopians are smart people who know their real enemy is in Arat Kilo.
Dear Ethiopians, Egypt is not the enemy, Somalia is not the enemy, Eritrea is not the enemy. The enemy of the people is Abiy. Keep your focus on the devil incarnate.
you wrote "we Eritreans" hmmm... I am dumbfounded are you really an Eritrean?
Please don't run away...answer my question.
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Somaliman,
your opinion is shared by 99 out of every 100 human beings in this world. That’s why the world is the way it is. Your views are forced on you by the historical forces. You are too weak to shake off the hold the past has on you. I know your type as you are typical human being. The fact remains we are family.
your opinion is shared by 99 out of every 100 human beings in this world. That’s why the world is the way it is. Your views are forced on you by the historical forces. You are too weak to shake off the hold the past has on you. I know your type as you are typical human being. The fact remains we are family.
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eden wrote: ↑11 Oct 2024, 20:52Somaliman,
your opinion is shared by 99 out of every 100 human beings in this world. That’s why the world is the way it is. Your views are forced on you by the historical forces. You are too weak to shake off the hold the past has on you. I know your type as you are typical human being. The fact remains we are family.
Eden,
Are you telling us that 99% of the "human beings in this world" have given their minds away and only the remaining 1% is right?
Would you mind demonstrating to us how "we are family"?
Guess what - Farmajo of Somalia offered Ethiopia a lasting peace in good faith and assured it that Somalia was prepared to turn the page and make a fresh start with Ethiopia. Following this, Abiy, PIA, and Farmajo forged a warm friendship between themselves and held tripartite summits, even though the practicalities and implications of such a tripartite had never been explicitly disclosed or stated. Needless to add that PIA took it from there and had started aspiring to regional integration ambitions.
During the Tigray conflict, PIA intervened in Ethiopia, committed the lives of thousands of Eritrean boys and girls in order to prevent Ethiopia from disintegrating and also spared the ar'se of Abiy from getting evicted from Menelik Palace, when Agames were threatening to march to Addis and smoke Abiy's ar'se out of the palace.
And the next thing we knew was the very same Abiy not only trying to outplay PIA in the Tigray conflict, but also embarking upon threatening the very same Eritrea and Somalia he was romanticising with a year or two earlier and making every effort in annexing a coastal land of Somalia by concocting an unlawful MoU with a region of Somalia, flagrantly violating Somalia's territorial integrity.
Yet you're telling us "we are family"!
Sadly, the reality is that the only things that we share between us in the HoA, which we do not share with other countries outside the HoA, are disputed borders, animosity, and conflicts.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
Idiotic hatable
Ethiopia’s best friend is Isayas Afewerqi. .That was Eritrean problem since the inception of EPLF out of the womb of ELF. If I was the President of Eritrea, no way would I try to save your behind. TPLF still would be in power. Egypt is Eritrean best friend. It has always been.
Ethiopia’s best friend is Isayas Afewerqi. .That was Eritrean problem since the inception of EPLF out of the womb of ELF. If I was the President of Eritrea, no way would I try to save your behind. TPLF still would be in power. Egypt is Eritrean best friend. It has always been.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
Eden,
There are two questions waiting for you to answer. Mine and also Kerenite's one. Therefore, stop ducking out of them.
There are two questions waiting for you to answer. Mine and also Kerenite's one. Therefore, stop ducking out of them.
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Re: just because HGDEF allied with the ruler of egypt against Abiy doesn’t mean we Eritreans are against Ethiopia
Hi Sam,Affable wrote: ↑10 Oct 2024, 21:40Isayes lives in fantasy world. The Eritrea liberation movement has a long history. As the ancient liberation movement in the region, it had influenced movements which mushroomed in Ethiopia against the Ethiopian regime. Isayes was the so called king maker. He seemed to have missed that “glory.”
But the Ethiopia of today is way different than the Ethiopia of thirty five or so years ago. The Ethiopia of today does not have a room to accommodate Isayes’ exclusive interest.
He can make friendly good relationship with Ethiopia. But he cannot have the chance to interfere with the internal politics of Ethiopia.
Have you been on coma over the past 4 years? You and I may not like it, but Isaias is still king maker in Ethiopia. Abiy is Ethiopia's PM today (some call him King, actually he probably thinks he is King) as a direct result of Isaias's interference in Ethiopian politics. If Isaias did not help him, Abiy would not be in 4 Killo tonight. He would probably be an exilee somewhere in Dubai or Jeddah. "ከኤርትራ ባንታረቅ ኖሮ ዛሬ እዚህ አን ኖርም ነበር" ነበር አቢይ ያለው ለፓርላማው? Check out my old thread "ኢትዮጵያ እጆችዋን ወደ ኤርትራ ትዘረጋለች"
Abiy has made Isaias's interference in Ethiopia's internal affairs halal when he created ጥምር ጦር with Isaias against Tigray. It would not be haram if Fano gets Isaias's support in removing Abiy. You might say me, "When it comes to removing your cousin's from getting to Arat Killo, everything is halal." Well, Fano could also say to you, "When it comes to removing your cousin from Arat Killo, everything is halal." You cannot make one thing halal for you and haram for others.
Your ESAT friends used to get millions of dollars from Egypt via Isaias. You were a cheer leader then. you cannot make ESAN TV getting support from Isaias haram now.