DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 05:15I think it is a dishonesty to try to avoid to answer the simple question saying it is about this one or the other. Now, let me take you to the same territory you are willingly putting yourself inside by your own volition.TGAA wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 02:49It is a confused question you are posing ? what do you mean legal provisioning? What are the per-request for legal provision to exist and draw legitimacy and adherence from the people. Evey gun-toting rebel redraws the territory and makes a decree to be the rule of the country which everybody has to follow--- wholla! there you have a Legal Provision . In the Welkaite Tegene case these territories were under then Begemede (during Haileselasser and Gonder,during Derg, administrations were firmly in the now Amhara region , weyanes didn't even waite their made up constituation to be ratified before they snatch the territory and started to depopulate the residences in the area and started resettle Tigrians into the area. The Welkite people protested but weyane used overwhelming force to crash it. But there was no time the question of welkite and Tegene and Raia wasn't raised . It is not an ivory tower intellectual exercise people are killed to the last min weyanes were removed from the land , the residence have been uprooted for decade and their land taken . weyanes were able and took welkite by force and commited all the crime , but when people retook the land that was taken supposed to be blamed. Once the injustice is address the people can vote what they want . Till then though that is thier land , and they shouldn't pushed around again . Weyane said "i saw and i conquered" and you are arguing that is a legal provision . we are talking 27 years history not 150 years or 400 years history.
If retaking the areas you mentioned in your response so far by the "rightful owners of the lands" there by means of force is to be justified, then you are also suggesting as a consequence those Oromo (and others, if any) farmers that were forcefully evicted from their ancestral lands around Addis Ababa (Finfinne) to expand the city and in the name of investment should be allowed to wield their guns and retake their lands back first and then after renegotiate about the rule of law.
There are many different areas where there are internal territorial disputes between the various kilils of the country and all of them should now start wielding their guns and retake what they consider theirs and there is no need to settle disputes by means of legal means, according to your reasoning here?
And still Ethiopia should be considered where rule of law should be upheld? And the government there could still be seen as a sovereign state where no entity considers itself to be above the rule of law?
Voila, we are now officially in a rule of fiefdom and there is no centralised rule of law and everybody can do what ever pleases it, according to your statement here.
I really can't help being transfixed by the hypocrisy of the call for the rule of law. Let me try to go point by point since you are claiming I am avoiding to answer the simple question. Let me declare it for everyone hearing that we all need to live under the rule of law. if that is the simple question that you want me to answer here is your answer. However, you can not have it both ways on one hand crying for the rule of law but on the other you can’t justify and accept while the rule of law broken by others as if it is something we have to live with. That tells me your call for the rule of law allies with your political view more than than purely a concern for jurisprudence Let us see your example :you are comparing things that are not comparable 1. The farmers around Addis Ababa was betrayed by their own OPDO. The way the farmers removed by the government was unjustifiable for sure they weren't given fair compensation for the land. All Ethiopinas agree these farmers need to be compensated fairly for their lose. Individual Ethiopans the government invited to invest were duped as well. The investors are not the invaders. They invested thier hard earned money thinking that were legitimately investing because of the government guaranteed it. How is this injustice was addressed by the new brushed up Weyanes, the orromumas. Without going through the court system Obo Takele Uman while Obo Abiy Mohomod looked on gave back apartments and lands for a few farmers but for a lot of Oromuma cadres thousands and thousands apartments and lands. Your rule of law seems to be very selective there is one rule of law for welkite or other places and another when your Oromo buddies violate it in the daylight,at the expense of the poor investors . We didn’t hear you raising the the rule of law , instead you agreed with it protecting Abo Takle full heartily . You didn't say O hold on this is a kind of wild west should not be allowed, instead you were attacking Eskender Nega as the worst Terrorist you encountered equal to Ayatola jawar.
Why we haven’t heard about the rule of law when Amharas were killed in shashmemenee . Do you know what the mayor of Shasemenne told to the court that when he called Shemels about the burning of the city by ethnic cleansers mob he told the court that Shemels told him to go back to his sleep, Well here you have it your rule of law in action .
We don’t here you stating loudly where you stand while the land of Metekel get socked with Amhara blood daily. But When the Amhara region states that if the federal government continue to abdicated its responsibly to protect Amhara Ethiopians in Metekle ,we will take action to protect them -- well the rule of law Amharapobs came out to protect the regions right to self-administrate but the citizens right to live is expandable --- Yea Abiy’s media tell us thousends of OLF shenne is being killed every day , but they will move out the EDF before they let in so called Shenee to go to finish them. Where is the cry then about the rule of law.
Welkite the land where the brute force of weyane has been used for more than any place in Ethiopia. Where 500000 of its people was forced to leave their land , and where depopulation of Amharas was practiced as a policy , and finally when Weyanes they know they are going to lose the place they committed Ethnic cleansing before they leave Mekadra killing 600 and still counting , your concern is the weyane law that make all these evil thing to take place . The Amharaphobs Abo Taye Denda and the son of Kitesa is scramming about rule of law to put the same people under the yoke of another weyane wane be murderous . That is going to be over Amharas dead body. Enough is enough. We don’t expect Amharaphobs to understand and protect Amharas, Amharas know they have to do it by themselves and they will do it. They don’t give that much of credence to the rule specifically designed to dehumanize theme. That is why while the federal government is good enough to galvanized and dismantle Weyane,they have a hard time controlling the daily killing in Oromia and Bensungle which wasn’t that much of a problem during Weyan years. No one is fooled by Rule of law cry… respect it first then you can teach us later.