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The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by TesfaNews » 10 May 2024, 13:24

The unique thing about the Amharic language is how many non Amharas speak amharic my estimination tells me 60 million Ethiopians can speak Amharic. Around 20 million non Amharas speak Amharic.

Amharic has become a prevalent language not only in the courts of the government but across all urban areas in the country. The Amharas have a unique trait where they can teach non Amharas their language not only in schools but in cities far away from Amhara region.

When an Oromo wants to move to Gambela or SNNPR that Oromo has to learn Amharic to interact with the other 30 tribes. Oromo for 200 years have failed to teach their language to the rest of Ethiopia. The Oromo language was spoken in rural areas but was not eliminated because the Amhara were more urbanistic. The Oromo language wasn't suppressed rather the Oromos themselves forgot how to be inclusive people like the Amara. Now in days Oromo women not only learn Amharic they also are learning English.

Tigrayans and Eritreans also speak and learn Amharic. I estimate around 10-20% of Eritreans can speak amharic even when Dictator Isaias tried to ban Amharic language in Eritrea

In fact Eritreans are naturally going to learn Amharic as they are incredibly interested in Ethiopia. They learn Amharic when they migrate to Ethiopia. They also teach their children Amharic

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by TesfaNews » 10 May 2024, 13:29

Don't forget the Tigrayans are cousins of Eritreans they will act all Tigrewityi and tell us how they aim to be independent country yet they still teach their children Amharic. Yet they still want to live in Addis Ababa and Gondar. They don't want to be evicted from the rest of Ethiopia.

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by TesfaNews » 10 May 2024, 13:39

30 years after Eritrea independence Eritrean children are still speaking amharic not only in Africa but in western nations. How many Eritreans visit this Ethiopian website everyday? Do you know they all speak amharic? . This reveals that Eritrea is a kilil of Ethiopia.

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by TesfaNews » 10 May 2024, 15:06

Amhara and Oromo are actually quite similar they are very good at accepting and adopting various tribes and individuals into their ethnicity through language, religion, teaching, politics and extra. Lets see you start playing Amharic music the Amhara will assume your their tribe. If you start playing Oromo music the Oromo will assume your their tribe. And they only get close to you through seeing that :lol:

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by DefendTheTruth » 10 May 2024, 15:57

They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by TesfaNews » 10 May 2024, 16:15

DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?
I pass the answer to Solomon Demele


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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by Agazi General » 10 May 2024, 16:18

IN OZER WORD, 1 DAY Z DREAMS OF YOHANNES AND ALULA WILL B REALIZED PEACEFULLY WHEN MIDRI BAHRI RETURNZ. WAW. ZAT IS Z SECRET REASON Y Z AGAZI AGAME KING ISAIAS SAID "I KNO ZAT U CALL ME AGAME BEHIND MY BACK. I WILL BEING Z COUNTRY DOWN Z SAME WAY I BROUGHT IT UP." MEMBER HE ALSO SAID WE ARE 1 PPL. ALL ZAT AND MORE INDICATE ZAT MIDRI BAHRI WILL REUNITED WITH ZER ADI ABO. INDEPENDENCE IS OVERRATED, THATS A LESSON 4 Z OROMO, SOMALIS, ETC

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by Abere » 10 May 2024, 16:30

-----ከአብርሃም ሃይማኖቶች የአንደኛው ( የክርስቲያን ወይም የእስልምና) አማኝ ከሆንክ ከአዳም እና ከሄዋን ወይም አደም እና ሀዋ ነው። ከባህር ድነግት ብቅ ብቅ ያለ ህዝብ አይደለም።

---- እምነተ-ዐልቦ (atheist) እና በዘገምተኛ ለውጥ ተከታይ ከሆንክ find the answer by yourself.

የአማራ ቀጥተኛ ስያሜ ከሆነ ( አም ሃራ ) ነጻ ህዝብ ማለት ነው። ማንም ነጻነቱን ሰብሮ ያልገዛው፤ ጠላቶቹን ሰብሮ ሰባብሮ ነጻ ነቱን ለበርካታ ሺ አመታት ጠብቆ ያለ ህዝብ ነው። በአፍሪካ ታላቅ ቁጥር ያለው ህዝብ አማራ ይባላል። የእራሱ ሆህያት፤የዘመን አቆጣጠር፤ ስርዐተ መንግስት፤ ህግ እና ስልጣኔ ያለው ቀደምት ህዝብ።

የአማርኛ ቋንቋ ለማወቅ የምታደርገውን ጥረት ከጊዜ ወደ ጊዜ ሳይ ሳላደንቅ ለማለፍ አልችልም። ኦፒዲኦ ብዙ ኦሮሞዎችን ለፓለቲካ ቁማር ሲል አማርኛ እንዳይማሩ በማድረግ ዱዳ አድርጎ የእራሱን ልጆች ግን በግል ትምህርት ቤት አማርኛ በደንብ ያስተምር ነበር። ወያኔዎች ግን ብልጥ ናቸው። ኦሮሞ አማርኛ እንዳያውቅ ዱዳ አድርገው እነርሱ አማርኛ ሰምና ወርቅ ሳይቀር ይማሩ ነበር። ለዛነው ትግሬዎች ለአብዛኛው ኢትዮጵያዊ ሀሳባቸውን በደንብ መግለጥ ይችላሉ። ኦሮሞዎች ግን በዚህ ረገድ ተጎድተዋል። ከብዙ ጎሳ ጋር እንዳይግባቡ በማድረግ። ይብስ ብሎ ኦንግ ብልጽግና በሚያደርገው አራዊት ባህርይ ኦሮምኛ ሰው ለማዳመጥ እና ለመማር ፍላጎቱን ዘግቶበታል። People lost appetite to learn Oromigna because of the OLF-PP inhumane character.ጥንት አካም ቡልተኒ ወዘተ እያለ ኦሮሞ ያልሆነ ሁሉ ለመማር ይፈልግ ነበር ዛሬ ግን ይሸሻል - ቄሮ ወይ ኦነግ መጣ ብሎ። The future of Oromigga is unsustainable because of the violent characteristics of Kegna herd, on to of the language being intrinsically inelastic to express many abstract and material events in the universe.




DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by DefendTheTruth » 10 May 2024, 16:37

TesfaNews wrote:
10 May 2024, 16:15
DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?
I pass the answer to Solomon Demele

The guy is singing for Ethiopia, not for Amhara, or Amhara's contribution in sustaining Ethiopia. Amhara is a good cohesive factor in the multitude of entities or identities that make up what we know as Ethiopia, because it has simply none of its own identity.

If you say it has, then bring it up please.

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by TesfaNews » 10 May 2024, 16:49

DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 16:37
TesfaNews wrote:
10 May 2024, 16:15
DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?
I pass the answer to Solomon Demele

The guy is singing for Ethiopia, not for Amhara, or Amhara's contribution in sustaining Ethiopia. Amhara is a good cohesive factor in the multitude of entities or identities that make up what we know as Ethiopia, because it has simply none of its own identity.

If you say it has, then bring it up please.
Dedeb!

He is singing about Gondar_Gojjam_Wolo_Showa and not about Arusi_Hadiya_Jimma etc what does that signify to you?

The Core of Amhara is Abysinnia if he was singing about Ethiopia where is Hadiya and Tulama, Macha, Ituu in this song?

Where is Ogadan, Adigrat, Assosa, Gambela, Moyale in the song? :P :mrgreen:

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by Abere » 10 May 2024, 17:00

In balancing, size matters the most.

a) Demographically, Amhara being the largest population in Ethiopia play a deterministic role. It keeps the country from falling off track

b) Amhara cultural traits intrinsically non-antagonistic with culture of other cultural segments in the Ethiopian universe. The traits are easily adaptable and proactively co-exist keeping the natural cultural balance.

If Amhara were not the largest population and cultural mesh were not positive, Ethiopia would have stopped from existence 3 decades ago when Woyane and OLF occupied 4 kilo. It is Amhara now paying the vicarious suffering to save Ethiopia. Had Amhara been smaller population, given the frequent genocide victim over 3 decades from Welqait-Raya to Wollega, Arusi, etc there would no be any Amhara to see now on the face of Earth. But Amhara is still in tens of millions all over Ethiopia serving as stabilizing people by taking the pain from savage woyane and OLF-PP.

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by Naga Tuma » 10 May 2024, 17:51

DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?
Welcome to the club of seekers of the truth of history.

የኦሮሞ ግንድ ቦረና ከሆነ የአማራ ግንድም መኖር ኣለበት እያልክ ነዉ?

ግንድ/ግንዲ ጄቻ ዌድስ መሌ ዉዳሴን ማል እያልክ። ማሎ ማሎ መል ማል እያልክ። ሴቄ ብለህ እየሳክ። ማል ቀባጠረ፣ ምን ይቀባጥራል እያልክ።

መቀባጠሩን ልተዉ እና ኣንድ ግዜ የኤርትራ ኣዛዉንት ያሉኝን ላካፍል። ከትግሬ ያልተወለደ አማራ አማራ ኣይዴለም ይባላል ኣሉኝ።

የኩኖ ኣምላክ ዘመን በፊት የኣማጽያን ወታደሮች ቋንቋ የተባለዉ አማርኛ ነበረ?

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by Naga Tuma » 10 May 2024, 17:55

Abere wrote:
10 May 2024, 17:00
In balancing, size matters the most.

If a part can balance, the whole can balance better. Right?

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by DefendTheTruth » 11 May 2024, 13:07

Abere wrote:
10 May 2024, 17:00
In balancing, size matters the most.

If Amhara were not the largest population and cultural mesh were not positive, Ethiopia would have stopped from existence 3 decades ago when Woyane and OLF occupied 4 kilo. It is Amhara now paying the vicarious suffering to save Ethiopia. Had Amhara been smaller population, given the frequent genocide victim over 3 decades from Welqait-Raya to Wollega, Arusi, etc there would no be any Amhara to see now on the face of Earth. But Amhara is still in tens of millions all over Ethiopia serving as stabilizing people by taking the pain from savage woyane and OLF-PP.
You never get tired in lecturing about Shabiya, Woyane and OLF determined to destabilize Ethiopia, why did you leave out Shabia in this case?

Why is the 3 - 1, all of the sudden?

If you try to make it 3 -1, then we make it 2 + 1 and restore the 3 (or even 4, if we don't discount the mother of the evils).

Here is how it gets back to 2+1 = 3:



Woyane and OLF went to Shabia and got adopted by it, then the late comer come from behind as a ከማን አንሼ and wanted to even excel in that business. Both OLF and Woyane are more care takers of the well-being of the nation than your ኮተታም ፋንዶ today!

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by DefendTheTruth » 11 May 2024, 13:13

Abere wrote:
10 May 2024, 16:30
-----ከአብርሃም ሃይማኖቶች የአንደኛው ( የክርስቲያን ወይም የእስልምና) አማኝ ከሆንክ ከአዳም እና ከሄዋን ወይም አደም እና ሀዋ ነው። ከባህር ድነግት ብቅ ብቅ ያለ ህዝብ አይደለም።

---- እምነተ-ዐልቦ (atheist) እና በዘገምተኛ ለውጥ ተከታይ ከሆንክ find the answer by yourself.

የአማራ ቀጥተኛ ስያሜ ከሆነ ( አም ሃራ ) ነጻ ህዝብ ማለት ነው። ማንም ነጻነቱን ሰብሮ ያልገዛው፤ ጠላቶቹን ሰብሮ ሰባብሮ ነጻ ነቱን ለበርካታ ሺ አመታት ጠብቆ ያለ ህዝብ ነው። በአፍሪካ ታላቅ ቁጥር ያለው ህዝብ አማራ ይባላል። የእራሱ ሆህያት፤የዘመን አቆጣጠር፤ ስርዐተ መንግስት፤ ህግ እና ስልጣኔ ያለው ቀደምት ህዝብ።

የአማርኛ ቋንቋ ለማወቅ የምታደርገውን ጥረት ከጊዜ ወደ ጊዜ ሳይ ሳላደንቅ ለማለፍ አልችልም። ኦፒዲኦ ብዙ ኦሮሞዎችን ለፓለቲካ ቁማር ሲል አማርኛ እንዳይማሩ በማድረግ ዱዳ አድርጎ የእራሱን ልጆች ግን በግል ትምህርት ቤት አማርኛ በደንብ ያስተምር ነበር። ወያኔዎች ግን ብልጥ ናቸው። ኦሮሞ አማርኛ እንዳያውቅ ዱዳ አድርገው እነርሱ አማርኛ ሰምና ወርቅ ሳይቀር ይማሩ ነበር። ለዛነው ትግሬዎች ለአብዛኛው ኢትዮጵያዊ ሀሳባቸውን በደንብ መግለጥ ይችላሉ። ኦሮሞዎች ግን በዚህ ረገድ ተጎድተዋል። ከብዙ ጎሳ ጋር እንዳይግባቡ በማድረግ። ይብስ ብሎ ኦንግ ብልጽግና በሚያደርገው አራዊት ባህርይ ኦሮምኛ ሰው ለማዳመጥ እና ለመማር ፍላጎቱን ዘግቶበታል። People lost appetite to learn Oromigna because of the OLF-PP inhumane character.ጥንት አካም ቡልተኒ ወዘተ እያለ ኦሮሞ ያልሆነ ሁሉ ለመማር ይፈልግ ነበር ዛሬ ግን ይሸሻል - ቄሮ ወይ ኦነግ መጣ ብሎ። The future of Oromigga is unsustainable because of the violent characteristics of Kegna herd, on to of the language being intrinsically inelastic to express many abstract and material events in the universe.




DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?
Where did you get that definition? I recently quoted Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin on this forum and posted the video where he defined the meaning of Amhara. Did you copy from there? If not, then where is your source?

If you copied from that source, then you are already twisting the meaning, not helpful for anybody, I think.

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by Abere » 11 May 2024, 14:16

What source did Artist L/ Tsegaye G/Medhin quote? You are asking the very obvious question, like how many suns does the earth have. :lol: አም ሃራ ( Amhara). ሃራ --- ነጻ ( ሐርነት + አም- ህዝብ (people). :mrgreen:



DefendTheTruth wrote:
11 May 2024, 13:13
Abere wrote:
10 May 2024, 16:30
-----ከአብርሃም ሃይማኖቶች የአንደኛው ( የክርስቲያን ወይም የእስልምና) አማኝ ከሆንክ ከአዳም እና ከሄዋን ወይም አደም እና ሀዋ ነው። ከባህር ድነግት ብቅ ብቅ ያለ ህዝብ አይደለም።

---- እምነተ-ዐልቦ (atheist) እና በዘገምተኛ ለውጥ ተከታይ ከሆንክ find the answer by yourself.

የአማራ ቀጥተኛ ስያሜ ከሆነ ( አም ሃራ ) ነጻ ህዝብ ማለት ነው። ማንም ነጻነቱን ሰብሮ ያልገዛው፤ ጠላቶቹን ሰብሮ ሰባብሮ ነጻ ነቱን ለበርካታ ሺ አመታት ጠብቆ ያለ ህዝብ ነው። በአፍሪካ ታላቅ ቁጥር ያለው ህዝብ አማራ ይባላል። የእራሱ ሆህያት፤የዘመን አቆጣጠር፤ ስርዐተ መንግስት፤ ህግ እና ስልጣኔ ያለው ቀደምት ህዝብ።

የአማርኛ ቋንቋ ለማወቅ የምታደርገውን ጥረት ከጊዜ ወደ ጊዜ ሳይ ሳላደንቅ ለማለፍ አልችልም። ኦፒዲኦ ብዙ ኦሮሞዎችን ለፓለቲካ ቁማር ሲል አማርኛ እንዳይማሩ በማድረግ ዱዳ አድርጎ የእራሱን ልጆች ግን በግል ትምህርት ቤት አማርኛ በደንብ ያስተምር ነበር። ወያኔዎች ግን ብልጥ ናቸው። ኦሮሞ አማርኛ እንዳያውቅ ዱዳ አድርገው እነርሱ አማርኛ ሰምና ወርቅ ሳይቀር ይማሩ ነበር። ለዛነው ትግሬዎች ለአብዛኛው ኢትዮጵያዊ ሀሳባቸውን በደንብ መግለጥ ይችላሉ። ኦሮሞዎች ግን በዚህ ረገድ ተጎድተዋል። ከብዙ ጎሳ ጋር እንዳይግባቡ በማድረግ። ይብስ ብሎ ኦንግ ብልጽግና በሚያደርገው አራዊት ባህርይ ኦሮምኛ ሰው ለማዳመጥ እና ለመማር ፍላጎቱን ዘግቶበታል። People lost appetite to learn Oromigna because of the OLF-PP inhumane character.ጥንት አካም ቡልተኒ ወዘተ እያለ ኦሮሞ ያልሆነ ሁሉ ለመማር ይፈልግ ነበር ዛሬ ግን ይሸሻል - ቄሮ ወይ ኦነግ መጣ ብሎ። The future of Oromigga is unsustainable because of the violent characteristics of Kegna herd, on to of the language being intrinsically inelastic to express many abstract and material events in the universe.




DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?
Where did you get that definition? I recently quoted Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin on this forum and posted the video where he defined the meaning of Amhara. Did you copy from there? If not, then where is your source?

If you copied from that source, then you are already twisting the meaning, not helpful for anybody, I think.

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by Horus » 11 May 2024, 16:07

ዲዲቲ/ናጋ ቱማ
How many times do I have to tell you that Laureate Tsegaye was a poet not a linguist - morphologist, philologist, or etymologist. The evidence for Haim -Hara (ሃማ ሃራ፣ አማራ) is a language question to be found in the source & root of words. The word Haim, Hama originates in the root [deleted] (human). Haima, Hama is same in Hebrew & Guragegna languages. My tribe is called Aymelel (Haimelel) አይመለል ፣ አመያ (አይመያ) የያያ ሕዝብ ማለት ነው ። አቡነ ተክለ ሓይማኖት በታደሰ ታምራት መጻፍ ውስጥ የሚጠቅሳቸው ..

ስለዚህ ሃማ (ሃይማ) ሕዝብ ማለት ለመሆን 100% ማስረጃ አለው ።

ሃራ ነጻ ማለት ነው። ይህ በኢትዮጵያ በመቶዎች የሚቆጠሩ ማስረጃዎች ያሉት ነው ። ቃሉ ሲጀመር ሃር (ሁር) ብርሃን ማለት ሲሆን እንደ ብርሃን የነጻ ከሚል ሜታፎር ነጻ፣ ንጹህ፣ ጽራይ፣ አርነት ፣ እያለ ይረባል ።

ስለዚህ እንደ ሕዝብ ከየት ተነሳ የሚለው የአንትሮፖሎጂ ትያቄ ሌላ ሆኖ አማራ የሚለው ቃል የቋንቋ መሰረት፣ ትርጉምና ማስረጃ ያለው ነው።

በሌላ በኩል ቦረና የኦሮሞ መነሻ ከሆነ ደሞ የጋላ መስፋፋትና ወረራ የተመዘገበውን ታሪክ ለምንድን ነው ኦሮሞች የሚክዱት?

ቦረና ከሆነ የኦሮሞ ትርክክለኛ ስም ጋላና ኦሮሞ ከየት መጣ? ለምን? ኦሮሞ የሚለው ቃል ምን የቋንቋ ማስረጃ አለው? የለውም ! ትርጉም አልባ ቃል ነው!

ኬንያ ባሉት የቦረና ሰዎች አፍ ኦርማ ማለት ጌጣ ጌጥ ማለት ነው ። ስለሆነ እነሱ ሲተሮጉሙት ኦሮማ ጌጣ ጌጥ የሚለብሱ ሰዎች ማለት ነው ብለዋል።

ስለዚህ ጋላ ወይም ኦሮሞ የተባሉት ሕዝቦች ትክክለኛ ስማቸው ቦረና ነው ። የቀረው ሁሉ አፈታሪክ ነው ።

እኔ ወደፊት እንደ ምሳየው ነጌሌ ፣ ገናሌ፣ ባሌ፣ ሸበሌ፣ ሻላ፣ ላንጋኖ፣ ዶሌ፣ ወዘተ በሙሉ የሴም ቃላት ሲሆኑ እነዚህን አገሮች፣ ወንዞች፣ ሃይቆችና ሸለቆችን የሰየሙት ከቦረና መስፋፋት ቀድመው የኖሩትና የነበሩት የሴም ሕዝቦች ናቸው ። ታሪክ ይስተካከ የምትሉ ከሆነ ማለቴ ነው ።

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by DefendTheTruth » 11 May 2024, 16:20

አያልቅበት፣

አማራ ኢትዮጵያን አጋምዶ አቆይቶዋል ማለት፣ ለዚህ የምበጅ ፖሊሲ አርቅቆ አበጅቶታል ማለት ሳይሆን በተፈጥሮዉ (እራሱ ቅይጥ በመሆኑ, involuntarily) እንድጋመዱ አድርጎታል ማለት ነዉ። አማራ ዉስጥ ተንኮለኛ አልነበረም ለማለት የምዳደዉ የለም። እንደ አንተ አይነቱ ፉዞ ከልሆነ በስተቀር።

Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin was not an (a sole) artist, he was a researcher, a poet, a historian, anthropologist, a linguist and many more.

Ham Hara came from an Oromo word. Ham new, the new Ham, is the meaning. Idiot!

ሃርነት ወደ ኤሪትሪያ ከሄዳችዉ ቦኋላ ነዉ የተማራችዉት!
Abere wrote:
11 May 2024, 14:16
What source did Artist L/ Tsegaye G/Medhin quote? You are asking the very obvious question, like how many suns does the earth have. :lol: አም ሃራ ( Amhara). ሃራ --- ነጻ ( ሐርነት + አም- ህዝብ (people). :mrgreen:



DefendTheTruth wrote:
11 May 2024, 13:13
Abere wrote:
10 May 2024, 16:30
-----ከአብርሃም ሃይማኖቶች የአንደኛው ( የክርስቲያን ወይም የእስልምና) አማኝ ከሆንክ ከአዳም እና ከሄዋን ወይም አደም እና ሀዋ ነው። ከባህር ድነግት ብቅ ብቅ ያለ ህዝብ አይደለም።

---- እምነተ-ዐልቦ (atheist) እና በዘገምተኛ ለውጥ ተከታይ ከሆንክ find the answer by yourself.

የአማራ ቀጥተኛ ስያሜ ከሆነ ( አም ሃራ ) ነጻ ህዝብ ማለት ነው። ማንም ነጻነቱን ሰብሮ ያልገዛው፤ ጠላቶቹን ሰብሮ ሰባብሮ ነጻ ነቱን ለበርካታ ሺ አመታት ጠብቆ ያለ ህዝብ ነው። በአፍሪካ ታላቅ ቁጥር ያለው ህዝብ አማራ ይባላል። የእራሱ ሆህያት፤የዘመን አቆጣጠር፤ ስርዐተ መንግስት፤ ህግ እና ስልጣኔ ያለው ቀደምት ህዝብ።

የአማርኛ ቋንቋ ለማወቅ የምታደርገውን ጥረት ከጊዜ ወደ ጊዜ ሳይ ሳላደንቅ ለማለፍ አልችልም። ኦፒዲኦ ብዙ ኦሮሞዎችን ለፓለቲካ ቁማር ሲል አማርኛ እንዳይማሩ በማድረግ ዱዳ አድርጎ የእራሱን ልጆች ግን በግል ትምህርት ቤት አማርኛ በደንብ ያስተምር ነበር። ወያኔዎች ግን ብልጥ ናቸው። ኦሮሞ አማርኛ እንዳያውቅ ዱዳ አድርገው እነርሱ አማርኛ ሰምና ወርቅ ሳይቀር ይማሩ ነበር። ለዛነው ትግሬዎች ለአብዛኛው ኢትዮጵያዊ ሀሳባቸውን በደንብ መግለጥ ይችላሉ። ኦሮሞዎች ግን በዚህ ረገድ ተጎድተዋል። ከብዙ ጎሳ ጋር እንዳይግባቡ በማድረግ። ይብስ ብሎ ኦንግ ብልጽግና በሚያደርገው አራዊት ባህርይ ኦሮምኛ ሰው ለማዳመጥ እና ለመማር ፍላጎቱን ዘግቶበታል። People lost appetite to learn Oromigna because of the OLF-PP inhumane character.ጥንት አካም ቡልተኒ ወዘተ እያለ ኦሮሞ ያልሆነ ሁሉ ለመማር ይፈልግ ነበር ዛሬ ግን ይሸሻል - ቄሮ ወይ ኦነግ መጣ ብሎ። The future of Oromigga is unsustainable because of the violent characteristics of Kegna herd, on to of the language being intrinsically inelastic to express many abstract and material events in the universe.




DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?
Where did you get that definition? I recently quoted Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin on this forum and posted the video where he defined the meaning of Amhara. Did you copy from there? If not, then where is your source?

If you copied from that source, then you are already twisting the meaning, not helpful for anybody, I think.

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by Abere » 11 May 2024, 17:33

DDT,
ምስጋና ለሆረስ፥ ከሚገባው በላይ አብራርቶ ነግሮሃል። የእራስህን የፈጠራ የውሸት ቅላጼ ለማዳመጥ ስለፈለግህ ጆሮህን እውነት እንዳያዳምጥ በደንብ ጥቅጥቅ እና የቡርቃ የጅረት ፏፏህን በዝምታ አድምጥ።

ታሪክ ለእናንተ የበታችነት ስሜት ማርከሻ የመንፈስ እርካት እንድሰጥ ተብሎ አይቀየርም። ብዙ ሺ ዓመታት ወደ ኋላ አልፈዋል - በዚያ ሁሉ ዘመን አም ሃራ ( አማራ ነበር) ለይሉኝታ ሲባል በ16ኛ ክፍለ ዘመን ወደ ኢትዮጵያ የከብት ጭራ ተከትሎ ለገባ ኦሮሞ እናንተ ቀድማችሁ የነበራችሁ ነው ማለት በታሪክ እና በእውነት ማፌዝ ነው።

ለመሆኑ መጽሀፍ ቅዱሳዊ ቃሉን የረሳኸው ይመስለኛል " ነብር ዥንጉርጉርነቱን ኢትዮጵያዊ መልኩን አይቀይርም" አማራ በፊትም አማራ ነበር ( አማራነቱን አልቀየርም" ወደፊትም አማራ ነው (መልኩን) አይቀይርም። ችግርህ ከምኑ ላይ ነው? አልገባኝም። በ16ኛው ክፈለ-ዘመን ከኋላ የመጣ ህዝብ ለነባር ህዝብ አዲስ ስም ያውጣለት ነው? በኋላ የመጣ ዐይን አወጣ ሆነ እኮ።

By the way, what does this benefit to Oromos?

DefendTheTruth wrote:
11 May 2024, 16:20
አያልቅበት፣

አማራ ኢትዮጵያን አጋምዶ አቆይቶዋል ማለት፣ ለዚህ የምበጅ ፖሊሲ አርቅቆ አበጅቶታል ማለት ሳይሆን በተፈጥሮዉ (እራሱ ቅይጥ በመሆኑ, involuntarily) እንድጋመዱ አድርጎታል ማለት ነዉ። አማራ ዉስጥ ተንኮለኛ አልነበረም ለማለት የምዳደዉ የለም። እንደ አንተ አይነቱ ፉዞ ከልሆነ በስተቀር።

Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin was not an (a sole) artist, he was a researcher, a poet, a historian, anthropologist, a linguist and many more.

Ham Hara came from an Oromo word. Ham new, the new Ham, is the meaning. Idiot!

ሃርነት ወደ ኤሪትሪያ ከሄዳችዉ ቦኋላ ነዉ የተማራችዉት!
Abere wrote:
11 May 2024, 14:16
What source did Artist L/ Tsegaye G/Medhin quote? You are asking the very obvious question, like how many suns does the earth have. :lol: አም ሃራ ( Amhara). ሃራ --- ነጻ ( ሐርነት + አም- ህዝብ (people). :mrgreen:



DefendTheTruth wrote:
11 May 2024, 13:13
Abere wrote:
10 May 2024, 16:30
-----ከአብርሃም ሃይማኖቶች የአንደኛው ( የክርስቲያን ወይም የእስልምና) አማኝ ከሆንክ ከአዳም እና ከሄዋን ወይም አደም እና ሀዋ ነው። ከባህር ድነግት ብቅ ብቅ ያለ ህዝብ አይደለም።

---- እምነተ-ዐልቦ (atheist) እና በዘገምተኛ ለውጥ ተከታይ ከሆንክ find the answer by yourself.

የአማራ ቀጥተኛ ስያሜ ከሆነ ( አም ሃራ ) ነጻ ህዝብ ማለት ነው። ማንም ነጻነቱን ሰብሮ ያልገዛው፤ ጠላቶቹን ሰብሮ ሰባብሮ ነጻ ነቱን ለበርካታ ሺ አመታት ጠብቆ ያለ ህዝብ ነው። በአፍሪካ ታላቅ ቁጥር ያለው ህዝብ አማራ ይባላል። የእራሱ ሆህያት፤የዘመን አቆጣጠር፤ ስርዐተ መንግስት፤ ህግ እና ስልጣኔ ያለው ቀደምት ህዝብ።

የአማርኛ ቋንቋ ለማወቅ የምታደርገውን ጥረት ከጊዜ ወደ ጊዜ ሳይ ሳላደንቅ ለማለፍ አልችልም። ኦፒዲኦ ብዙ ኦሮሞዎችን ለፓለቲካ ቁማር ሲል አማርኛ እንዳይማሩ በማድረግ ዱዳ አድርጎ የእራሱን ልጆች ግን በግል ትምህርት ቤት አማርኛ በደንብ ያስተምር ነበር። ወያኔዎች ግን ብልጥ ናቸው። ኦሮሞ አማርኛ እንዳያውቅ ዱዳ አድርገው እነርሱ አማርኛ ሰምና ወርቅ ሳይቀር ይማሩ ነበር። ለዛነው ትግሬዎች ለአብዛኛው ኢትዮጵያዊ ሀሳባቸውን በደንብ መግለጥ ይችላሉ። ኦሮሞዎች ግን በዚህ ረገድ ተጎድተዋል። ከብዙ ጎሳ ጋር እንዳይግባቡ በማድረግ። ይብስ ብሎ ኦንግ ብልጽግና በሚያደርገው አራዊት ባህርይ ኦሮምኛ ሰው ለማዳመጥ እና ለመማር ፍላጎቱን ዘግቶበታል። People lost appetite to learn Oromigna because of the OLF-PP inhumane character.ጥንት አካም ቡልተኒ ወዘተ እያለ ኦሮሞ ያልሆነ ሁሉ ለመማር ይፈልግ ነበር ዛሬ ግን ይሸሻል - ቄሮ ወይ ኦነግ መጣ ብሎ። The future of Oromigga is unsustainable because of the violent characteristics of Kegna herd, on to of the language being intrinsically inelastic to express many abstract and material events in the universe.




DefendTheTruth wrote:
10 May 2024, 15:57
They can teach their language or something else but the first question that has to be answered is who are the Amharas?

የአማራ ግንድ ማን ነዉ?

Do you have an answer?
Where did you get that definition? I recently quoted Laureate Tsegaye Gebremedhin on this forum and posted the video where he defined the meaning of Amhara. Did you copy from there? If not, then where is your source?

If you copied from that source, then you are already twisting the meaning, not helpful for anybody, I think.

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Re: The case of language in Ethiopia

Post by DefendTheTruth » 11 May 2024, 18:52

Abere wrote:
11 May 2024, 17:33
DDT,
ምስጋና ለሆረስ፥ ከሚገባው በላይ አብራርቶ ነግሮሃል። የእራስህን የፈጠራ የውሸት ቅላጼ ለማዳመጥ ስለፈለግህ ጆሮህን እውነት እንዳያዳምጥ በደንብ ጥቅጥቅ እና የቡርቃ የጅረት ፏፏህን በዝምታ አድምጥ።
አያልቅበት፣

በእዉር አገር አንድ አይን ያለዉ ብርቅ አሉ ስተርቱ። አሁን በላችሁበት ሁኔታ፣ የሆረስ መሰሎችን እንድ ሊቅ አድርጋቸዉ መቁጠር አይገርምም! ዳሩ ግን ሆረስ ያችኑን አንድ አይንም የለዉም እንጂ፣ እንደ አንተዉ እዉር እንጂ።

ኦሮሞ ወደ ኢትዮጵያ የመጠዉ በ16ኛዉ ክ/ዘመን ነዉ ብለህ ራስህን ኣፅናና፣ እርካታ ይሰጥህ ይሆናል።

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