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335 people PERISHED in the Mediterranean Sea

Postby YeSat-Nebelbal » 08 Apr 2011, 17:51


It's unthinkable. It's unimaginable. It's simply inconceivable to rationalize, as many as 335 people would die without any reason, in a single moment. Add the 20 bodies that were picked up just a few days ago 20 miles off Lampedusa island, it's a tragedy. These are people that took plenty of risks to get out of Eritrea and only to be dead in a sea they do not have any business crossing, it's a tragedy unparalleled by any definition. Even the uprising in Tunisia and Egypt did not consume these many people running for three months, yet at the end of the day those countries removed their dictators, and the death of these Eritreans (if true, most likely it is) will effect nothing other than for the rest watching and hearing to [deleted] our lips and shake our heads with sadness. As recent as two weeks ago, I heard some of them on VOA telling the reporter that they are not interested to go back to Eritrea, I guess in a way they got their wish, the did not want to go back alive.

The "opposing" forces achieved their objectives by ratcheting up and exciting the youth to "abandon the regime," but they failed with their goals, the regime is there, but the youth they pushed to abandon is dead. No one gave them any direction once they cross out of the Eritrean border, now what??? I just heard an "educated Eritrean," (Dr. Gaim Kibrab from London) adding his assessment, again blaming the regime's policy, he never mentioned all the voices cheering the youth to leave. Yes, the regimes where the youth originate have a lot to do with the problem, but it alone cannot be the sole responsible source.

The Dr. is saying the same thing the "opposing" forces are saying, lengthy national services, well the enemy is there financed by outside force, and Eritrea being a poor nation is unable to match the money to pay the youth to feel they are compensated. UK & US unemployed taxpayers is financing the enemy (Woyanne soldiers) to sit there and do nothing while Eritrea is using it's meager resources to thaw the fight. V.O.A. or they are properly known as an extension to Walta Information Center, a Woyanne controlled media are stirring the sad news as they wish for more Eritreans to abandon the regime, so they can venture into their death.

By blaming the Eritrean regime these people are essentially exonerating their daily raising of the stakes for the youth to flee to Ethiopia and Sudan. In the short term they get a nice sound bite, but they do nothing to help the youth once out of the country. A year or two after the youth hangs around a concentration camp in Tigray or in Sudan they feel the need to go somewhere better, maybe Israel or maybe Italy. The youth pushed by pressure to be somebody, begins the venture to their death in the sea or for captivity as hostage and become either [deleted] slave or be used for organ spare parts.

If you ask my opinion, those opening their mouth in the name of opposing the regime, while encuraging the youth to abandon are responsible for the lives lost.



Re: 335 people PERISHED in the Mediterranean Sea

Postby W'qaw » 08 Apr 2011, 18:21


YeSat-Nebelbal wrote:It's unthinkable. It's unimaginable. It's simply inconceivable to rationalize, as many as 335 people would die without any reason, in a single moment. Add the 20 bodies that were picked up just a few days ago 20 miles off Lampedusa island, it's a tragedy. These are people that took plenty of risks to get out of Eritrea and only to be dead in a sea they do not have any business crossing, it's a tragedy unparalleled by any definition. Even the uprising in Tunisia and Egypt did not consume these many people running for three months, yet at the end of the day those countries removed their dictators, and the death of these Eritreans (if true, most likely it is) will effect nothing other than for the rest watching and hearing to [deleted] our lips and shake our heads with sadness. As recent as two weeks ago, I heard some of them on VOA telling the reporter that they are not interested to go back to Eritrea, I guess in a way they got their wish, the did not want to go back alive.

The "opposing" forces achieved their objectives by ratcheting up and exciting the youth to "abandon the regime," but they failed with their goals, the regime is there, but the youth they pushed to abandon is dead. No one gave them any direction once they cross out of the Eritrean border, now what??? I just heard an "educated Eritrean," (Dr. Gaim Kibrab from London) adding his assessment, again blaming the regime's policy, he never mentioned all the voices cheering the youth to leave. Yes, the regimes where the youth originate have a lot to do with the problem, but it alone cannot be the sole responsible source.

The Dr. is saying the same thing the "opposing" forces are saying, lengthy national services, well the enemy is there financed by outside force, and Eritrea being a poor nation is unable to match the money to pay the youth to feel they are compensated. UK & US unemployed taxpayers is financing the enemy (Woyanne soldiers) to sit there and do nothing while Eritrea is using it's meager resources to thaw the fight. V.O.A. or they are properly known as an extension to Walta Information Center, a Woyanne controlled media are stirring the sad news as they wish for more Eritreans to abandon the regime, so they can venture into their death.

By blaming the Eritrean regime these people are essentially exonerating their daily raising of the stakes for the youth to flee to Ethiopia and Sudan. In the short term they get a nice sound bite, but they do nothing to help the youth once out of the country. A year or two after the youth hangs around a concentration camp in Tigray or in Sudan they feel the need to go somewhere better, maybe Israel or maybe Italy. The youth pushed by pressure to be somebody, begins the venture to their death in the sea or for captivity as hostage and become either [deleted] slave or be used for organ spare parts.

Yes indeed! If you ask my opinion, those opening their mouth in the name of opposing the regime, while encuraging the youth to abandon are responsible for the lives lost.



Re: 335 people PERISHED in the Mediterranean Sea

Postby Halafi Mengedi » 08 Apr 2011, 19:32


The death of innocent Eritreans lay on the followings:

1. Shaebia put so many brothers and sisters to death and imprisonment at ERAERO for many years with out charge or appearances in the court. The youth sensed that Eritrea is not there and they have to go out anywhere but Eritrea and Shaebia.

2. Shaebia is telling the youth of Eritreans how to eat, speak, walk, read and breath even the Italian fascist and British never done like the so called sons and daughters of Eritrea doing so much brutality to their own people.

3. Meles has some responsibility not to see the out come of the war when he halted it 10 years ago. Meles thought that he was helping his beloved people against Ethiopia and his vision materialized today. Had he finished Shaebia during the war as others were advocated, the youth of Eritrea could have been saved, there could not be Shimelba, Sinai raping and killing, Reshaida human trafficking, UN embargo, opposition groups, even there may not Kunama, Afar and others fighting Eritrea today. Once again the Meles visionary thinking does not go beyond just to get bribe as usual and failed very miserably and the consequence mainly the Eritreans are paying it today followed by Ethiopians for all the destruction by Shaebia recruiting human bombers to harm innocent Ethiopians every where in the country.



Re: 335 people PERISHED in the Mediterranean Sea

Postby Silk Da Shocker » 09 Apr 2011, 16:38


Attention Eritreans: 335 Eritreans did not die in the Mediterranean Sea! This is false information! Around 130 people are thought to be missing and presumed to have drowned and nearly all of them were not Eritreans! Here's the facts, as stated by the International Organization for Migration (IOM), an organization that's there on the scene:

"Mr. Carosia said the boat had sailed from Libya and likely been at sea for around two days. He added that about 200 people were believed to be on board, although the IOM and some survivors put the number of passengers at 300.

The IOM said the migrants and asylum seekers were from Bangladesh, Chad, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Somali and Sudan. Among them there were 5 children and 40 women, of whom only two survived."


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1972805/



Re: 335 people PERISHED in the Mediterranean Sea

Postby YeSat-Nebelbal » 09 Apr 2011, 17:49


Silk Da Shocker wrote:Attention Eritreans: 335 Eritreans did not die in the Mediterranean Sea! This is false information! Around 130 people are thought to be missing and presumed to have drowned and nearly all of them were not Eritreans! Here's the facts, as stated by the International Organization for Migration (IOM), an organization that's there on the scene:

"Mr. Carosia said the boat had sailed from Libya and likely been at sea for around two days. He added that about 200 people were believed to be on board, although the IOM and some survivors put the number of passengers at 300.

The IOM said the migrants and asylum seekers were from Bangladesh, Chad, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Somali and Sudan. Among them there were 5 children and 40 women, of whom only two survived."


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1972805/


Shocker,

They are talking about the second boat. Tow boats left Libya, one after another. One of the boats sunk with all its travelers, while the other had some survivors. The one without any survivors had 335 Eritreans, 10 Ethiopians, and 1 Egyptian. As a matter of fact, the one boat suspected to contain all those Eritreans is said to be lost in the sea with no survivors. There are several people that have the name list of the perished.

Those Eritreans leaving for a better life elsewhere should know that they have the best living standards in the region. Aiming for Europe or North America is a crazy idea, because neither of those continents have plenty of their citizens not working and living in the streets, whatever makes them think they have a chance to make it while the locals are unable? The regime in Eritrea should help them understand this fact, and make part of the government, when people have no stake in the way their country is run, then they will abandon it, I think that's what's going on at the moment. As far as making their country look good, they have to work harder. There is no country in the world that was a ready made, everyone had to work hard to make their country look good and have it attract others to aspire to live in it.



Re: 335 people PERISHED in the Mediterranean Sea

Postby Silk Da Shocker » 09 Apr 2011, 18:48


YeSat-Nebelbal wrote:
Silk Da Shocker wrote:Attention Eritreans: 335 Eritreans did not die in the Mediterranean Sea! This is false information! Around 130 people are thought to be missing and presumed to have drowned and nearly all of them were not Eritreans! Here's the facts, as stated by the International Organization for Migration (IOM), an organization that's there on the scene:

"Mr. Carosia said the boat had sailed from Libya and likely been at sea for around two days. He added that about 200 people were believed to be on board, although the IOM and some survivors put the number of passengers at 300.

The IOM said the migrants and asylum seekers were from Bangladesh, Chad, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, Somali and Sudan. Among them there were 5 children and 40 women, of whom only two survived."


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1972805/


Shocker,

They are talking about the second boat. Tow boats left Libya, one after another. One of the boats sunk with all its travelers, while the other had some survivors. The one without any survivors had 335 Eritreans, 10 Ethiopians, and 1 Egyptian. As a matter of fact, the one boat suspected to contain all those Eritreans is said to be lost in the sea with no survivors. There are several people that have the name list of the perished.

Those Eritreans leaving for a better life elsewhere should know that they have the best living standards in the region. Aiming for Europe or North America is a crazy idea, because neither of those continents have plenty of their citizens not working and living in the streets, whatever makes them think they have a chance to make it while the locals are unable? The regime in Eritrea should help them understand this fact, and make part of the government, when people have no stake in the way their country is run, then they will abandon it, I think that's what's going on at the moment. As far as making their country look good, they have to work harder. There is no country in the world that was a ready made, everyone had to work hard to make their country look good and have it attract others to aspire to live in it.


Lets do basic math, as you seem to fail at logic.

The IOM says a boat filled with a little bit less than 200 capsized.

Of those 200, 45 were rescued, and 15 were dead.

so out of 200 that capsized, 45 were rescued, 15 died.

That would leave around 140 missing.

So, it would be mathematically impossible for 335 to die, when at most, 200 capsized, and 45 of them were rescued. You get my drift?

The IOM, whom are the ones on the ground speaking to those rescued and assisting them has stated, nearly all of those reportedly missing (roughly 130 to 140), are from Bangladesh, Nigeria, Libya, Ivory Coast, Somalia and Sudan. Remember, half a million Sudanese call Libya home, so I know what they are stating is factual.

The truth is, nearly all those that drowned were NOT Eritreans. The people on the ground who have seen the survivors have spoken. The smoking gun is found. No need to argue any further. The Jihadist and [deleted] Tigrayans can go back to being depressed.



Re: 335 people PERISHED in the Mediterranean Sea

Postby Naga Tuma » 09 Apr 2011, 19:07


YeSat-Nebelbal wrote:It's unthinkable. It's unimaginable. It's simply inconceivable to rationalize, as many as 335 people would die without any reason, in a single moment. Add the 20 bodies that were picked up just a few days ago 20 miles off Lampedusa island, it's a tragedy. These are people that took plenty of risks to get out of Eritrea and only to be dead in a sea they do not have any business crossing, it's a tragedy unparalleled by any definition. Even the uprising in Tunisia and Egypt did not consume these many people running for three months, yet at the end of the day those countries removed their dictators, and the death of these Eritreans (if true, most likely it is) will effect nothing other than for the rest watching and hearing to [deleted] our lips and shake our heads with sadness. As recent as two weeks ago, I heard some of them on VOA telling the reporter that they are not interested to go back to Eritrea, I guess in a way they got their wish, the did not want to go back alive.

The "opposing" forces achieved their objectives by ratcheting up and exciting the youth to "abandon the regime," but they failed with their goals, the regime is there, but the youth they pushed to abandon is dead. No one gave them any direction once they cross out of the Eritrean border, now what??? I just heard an "educated Eritrean," (Dr. Gaim Kibrab from London) adding his assessment, again blaming the regime's policy, he never mentioned all the voices cheering the youth to leave. Yes, the regimes where the youth originate have a lot to do with the problem, but it alone cannot be the sole responsible source.

The Dr. is saying the same thing the "opposing" forces are saying, lengthy national services, well the enemy is there financed by outside force, and Eritrea being a poor nation is unable to match the money to pay the youth to feel they are compensated. UK & US unemployed taxpayers is financing the enemy (Woyanne soldiers) to sit there and do nothing while Eritrea is using it's meager resources to thaw the fight. V.O.A. or they are properly known as an extension to Walta Information Center, a Woyanne controlled media are stirring the sad news as they wish for more Eritreans to abandon the regime, so they can venture into their death.

By blaming the Eritrean regime these people are essentially exonerating their daily raising of the stakes for the youth to flee to Ethiopia and Sudan. In the short term they get a nice sound bite, but they do nothing to help the youth once out of the country. A year or two after the youth hangs around a concentration camp in Tigray or in Sudan they feel the need to go somewhere better, maybe Israel or maybe Italy. The youth pushed by pressure to be somebody, begins the venture to their death in the sea or for captivity as hostage and become either [deleted] slave or be used for organ spare parts.

If you ask my opinion, those opening their mouth in the name of opposing the regime, while encuraging the youth to abandon are responsible for the lives lost.

Why put yourself outside the circle? To escape from responsibility? Why don't tell those you accuse here your cowardice opinion right where it should be told?



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