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TPLF/Woyane's coziness with China & US interest in Djibouti are crossed with significant consequences

Post by Revelations » 07 Mar 2018, 18:53

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'Significant' consequences if China takes key port in Djibouti: U.S. general

Idrees Ali, Phil Stewart

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top U.S. general for Africa told lawmakers on Tuesday that the military could face “significant” consequences should China take a key port in Djibouti, as Beijing becomes increasingly muscular in Africa in an effort to expand its influence.

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Last month, Djibouti ended its contract with Dubai’s DP World, one of the world’s biggest port operators, to run the Doraleh Container Terminal, citing failure to resolve a dispute that began in 2012.

DP World called the move an illegal seizure of the terminal and said it had begun new arbitration proceedings before the London Court of International Arbitration.

During a U.S. congressional hearing on Tuesday, which was dominated by concerns about China’s role in Africa, lawmakers said they had seen reports that Djibouti seized control of the port to give it to China as a gift.

China has already built a military base in Djibouti, just miles from a critical U.S. military base.

“If this was an illegal seizure of that port, what is to say that government wouldn’t illegally terminate our lease before its term is up,” said Representative Bradley Byrne, a Republican.

In a letter to U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, Byrne said he was concerned about China’s influence in Djibouti and the impact it would have on U.S. military and intelligence assets.

Djibouti is strategically located at the southern entrance to the Red Sea on the route to the Suez Canal.

Marine General Thomas Waldhauser, the top U.S. military commander overseeing troops in Africa, said that if China placed restrictions on the port’s use, it could affect resupplying the U.S. base in Djibouti and the ability of Navy ships to refuel there.

“If the Chinese took over that port, then the consequences could be significant,” Waldhauser said during the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee hearing.

Djibouti hosts a U.S. military base that is home to about 4,000 personnel, including special operations forces, and is a launch pad for operations in Yemen and Somalia.

“There are some indications of (China) looking for additional facilities, specifically on the eastern coast ... So Djibouti happens to be the first - there will be more,” Waldhauser said.

Speaking in Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said he did not know anything about the port situation, but China’s cooperation with Africa was neither aimed at any third party nor aimed at excluding anyone.

“We hope that the U.S. side can objectively and fairly view China’s development and China-Africa cooperation,” he told a daily news briefing.

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China has sought to be visible in Africa, including through high-profile investment in public infrastructure projects, as it deepens its trade ties.

Waldhauser said that the United States would be unable to match the scale of that investment throughout the continent, noting Beijing’s construction of shopping malls, government buildings and even soccer stadiums.

“We’ll never outspend the Chinese in (Africa),” Waldhauser said, noting some of the Chinese investments in Djibouti.

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said on Tuesday the United States will give more than $533 million in humanitarian aid for victims of conflicts and drought in Ethiopia, Somalia, South Sudan and the West and Central African countries bordering Lake Chad.

But Tillerson contrasted the United States’ work on the African continent, which he said promoted “sustainable growth,” with that of China, which recently pledged $124 billion for its Silk Road plan to expand links between Asia, Africa, Europe and other places.

Tillerson said China’s investment in Africa “encouraged dependency.”

This year, the U.S. military put countering China, along with Russia, at the center of a new national defense strategy.

The Pentagon said China was a part of “revisionist powers” that “seek to create a world consistent with their authoritarian models.”

Waldhauser said he was in the process of rewriting U.S. military strategy in the region with China in mind.

“China has been on the African continent for quite some time, but we as a combatant command have not dealt with it in terms of a strategic interest,” Waldhauser said.

“We are taking baby steps in that regard,” he added.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1GI2V0

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Re: TPLF/Woyane's coziness with China & US interest in Djibouti are crossed with significant consequences

Post by Dawi » 07 Mar 2018, 19:12

Maybe Ethiopia should work on getting some % of ownership of Djibouti Port as it did on Berbera Port.


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Ethiopia Acquires 19% stake in DP World Berbera Port
3 March 2018


By Staff Reporter
Ethiopia will become a shareholder of the Port of Berbera following the signing of an agreement with DP World and the Somaliland Port Authority in Dubai on Thursday.
According to the agreement, DP World will hold a 51 percent stake in the project, Somaliland 30 percent and Ethiopia the remaining 19 percent. The Government of Ethiopia will also invest in infrastructure to develop the Berbera Corridor as a trade gateway.

There are also plans to construct an additional berth at the Port of Berbera, in line with the Berbera masterplan, which DP World has already started implementing, while adding new equipment to further improve efficiencies and productivity. The first cranes are scheduled to arrive later this year.

Expressing the importance of working with the governments of Somaliland and Ethiopia on the projects, which will fuel trade and employment opportunities in the region, DP World Group Chairman and CEO Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem said: “I am so excited about the prospects of working with the Ethiopian government. Ethiopia is home to approximately 110 million people. The ports of Berbera and Doraleh will provide significant capacity to the region. Both these ports and more capacity will be needed to serve the region’s growth potential in the future. Having the Government of Ethiopia as a partner will enable DP World to support the government in achieving its impressive development plans. This development and the strengthening of our partnership demonstrates our commitment to the people of Somaliland and Ethiopia and we look forward to working together.”

“The economies of the region are growing at a pace that needs the development of Berbera supplementing Djibouti and additional gateways in the future,” Bin Sulayem said.
Republic of Somaliland Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation Saad Al Shire (PhD), said: “This is a very important project that will address some of the problems facing Somaliland concerning employment and investment. It is a welcome development that will benefit the region as a whole. The economies of the region are growing at a pace that necessitates the development of multiple ports and outlets. The extension of the port will increase capacity of the region to accommodate the increase in trade.”

Ethiopian Transport Minister Ahmed Shide said: “After a year of serious negotiations, Ethiopia has concluded an agreement with the Somaliland Ports Authority and DP World that will give the Government of Ethiopia 19 percent stake in the joint venture developing the Port of Berbera. The agreement will help Ethiopia secure an additional logistical gateway for its ever increasing import and export trade driven by its growing population and economy. In addition, Ethiopian participation in the development of port of Berbera and the Berbera Corridor will help bring increased economic development and opportunity to the people of Somaliland. Ethiopia will continue to further invest in and develop the Djibouti corridor and further consolidate the use of existing ports in Djibouti. It will also look for other opportunities to develhttp://www.thereporterethiopia.com/article/eth ... era-portop additional ports and logistics corridors in the region.”

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Re: TPLF/Woyane's coziness with China & US interest in Djibouti are crossed with significant consequences

Post by Revelations » 07 Mar 2018, 21:36

Dawi wrote:Maybe Ethiopia should work on getting some % of ownership of Djibouti Port as it did on Berbera Port.
"ሰዶ ማሳደድ ሲምርህ ዶሮህ በቆቅ ለውጥ" ነው የናንተ የወያኔዎች ስራ::

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Radio Dalsan

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BREAKING Federal Government of #Somalia has officially protested to the Arab League over last week's tripartite agreement by #Somaliland, #Ethiopia and #UAE's DP World to lease the Berbera Port without consulting #Mogadishu.

https://twitter.com/DalsanFM/status/971473539504267264
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Re: TPLF/Woyane's coziness with China & US interest in Djibouti are crossed with significant consequences

Post by Dawi » 08 Mar 2018, 06:06

Rev,

Well, what else is the US going to do for you? Besides, Rex bringing the usual "food aid" worth "$533 million" this time around? Can the US provide some financing for us to invest in the PORT? That will be the day! Why not?

Don't get me wrong, "food aid" is good however, "Woyane" or not the economic development partnering with all, including China is what is going to get us out of poverty.

The PORT business has a track record of making money; from mainly what Ethiopia spends in PORT fees. We can sure pay a US "LOAN" back by owning 49% of the PORT. China don't have to get it all; Djibouti will feel secure Ethiopia investing because we are their main source of future income and guaranteed to stay put for generations to come. Further more, our kin in Djibouti can play DP World's game by upping the ante, offering more PORT shares to Ethiopia!

What is yours & the fractured opposition take?
Continue playing "the binary number system's two binary digits, 0 and 1" every time, for the rest of you freak'n lives? :oops:
By that, the poor country starting from scratch every twenty some years? No one should have time for that!

What about the "clans" in Somalia? It is like waiting Eritrea coming back? How long are you willing to wait?

It is ridiculous!

BTW, Woyane/EPRDF's weakness is not development per se.
Revelations wrote:
Dawi wrote:Maybe Ethiopia should work on getting some % of ownership of Djibouti Port as it did on Berbera Port.

"ሰዶ ማሳደድ ሲምርህ ዶሮህ በቆቅ ለውጥ" ነው የናንተ የወያኔዎች ስራ::

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Radio Dalsan

@DalsanFM

BREAKING Federal Government of #Somalia has officially protested to the Arab League over last week's tripartite agreement by #Somaliland, #Ethiopia and #UAE's DP World to lease the Berbera Port without consulting #Mogadishu.

https://twitter.com/DalsanFM/status/971473539504267264
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Re: TPLF/Woyane's coziness with China & US interest in Djibouti are crossed with significant consequences

Post by somali-prince » 08 Mar 2018, 08:55

dawi,

That agreement is null and void, period. I was watching somali television last night that brought about a panel of 10 somali lawyers and barristers from London. 3 were highly trained in international disputes and all agreed that somaliland does not exist as a country and such the agreement by the terror funding uae is null and void. Their sentiments are backed by the PM of djibouti who also said that berbera's fate can only be decided by the federal government in Mogadishu.

One of the key areas raised by the somali lawyers is that, 10 years ago the same terror funding uae applied to control UK and US ports. They were willing to spend billions but their offer despite being the best financially was refused technically due to threat to national security. Ethiopia has already lost 5 million dollars on feasibility study on a project that will certainly end up in federal government's favour.

Instead of worrying of what the us sec says about china, worry about ethiopia's future which is by any definition a failed and fragile state. The new puppet pm will not be able to bring the country together due to the deeply divided ethnic rivalry that currently exists. Once you pass that hurdle, we can discuss port issues.

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Re: TPLF/Woyane's coziness with China & US interest in Djibouti are crossed with significant consequences

Post by Dawi » 08 Mar 2018, 21:21

somali-prince wrote:That agreement is null and void, period. I was watching somali television last night that brought about a panel of 10 somali lawyers and barristers from London.
prince,

You might as well bring "bartenders" from London for all Somaliland care! :P

What difference would that make to the secessionists?

You think Asab doesn't belong to Ethiopia? or the Massawa Port? Think again.

As far as Ethiopia's future is concerned, I think Dr. Abiy shall bring the country together and then some more! Eritrea! Djibouti! :idea:

If only those hard liners in EPRDF let him. Now they are trying to smear him with idiotic things like "he doesn't read books".

I bet he probably read more books than Dr. Debresion (Engineer) & the others combined. Look at his PHD thesis online and be the judge. One can't write such type of thesis by doing "advanced calculus" alone!

Cheers!

አቶ አብይ አህመድ (ዶ/ር) በ23/6/2010 ዓ/ም የአስቸኳይ ግዜ አዋጅ ውሳኔ ለማስተላለፍ ፓርላማ በጠራው አስቸኳይ ስብሰባ ለምን አልተገኙም?

[..ሌላ አቶ አብይ ሃሳብ አመንጪና በጣም አንባቢ ተደርገው በተለያዩ ሚድያዎች ሲነገር ይሰማል መሆናቸው ባልከፋ ነበር ነገር ግን እሳቸው የሚገልፃቸው አለመሆኑን ነው፡፡ በተለይ ከቅርብ ግዜ ወዲህ የሳቸው ቃለ መጠይቅ ልብ ብሎ ለተመለከተ ከጀርባቸው በመፅሃፍት የተሞላ የመፅሃፍት መደርደሪያ በማካተት አንባቢ ለመምሰል የፈጠሩት ቲያትር ነው፡፡ ..] :roll: http://www.aigaforum.com/amharic-articl ... eeting.pdf

somali-prince wrote:dawi,

That agreement is null and void, period. I was watching somali television last night that brought about a panel of 10 somali lawyers and barristers from London. 3 were highly trained in international disputes and all agreed that somaliland does not exist as a country and such the agreement by the terror funding uae is null and void. Their sentiments are backed by the PM of djibouti who also said that berbera's fate can only be decided by the federal government in Mogadishu.

One of the key areas raised by the somali lawyers is that, 10 years ago the same terror funding uae applied to control UK and US ports. They were willing to spend billions but their offer despite being the best financially was refused technically due to threat to national security. Ethiopia has already lost 5 million dollars on feasibility study on a project that will certainly end up in federal government's favour.

Instead of worrying of what the us sec says about china, worry about ethiopia's future which is by any definition a failed and fragile state. The new puppet pm will not be able to bring the country together due to the deeply divided ethnic rivalry that currently exists. Once you pass that hurdle, we can discuss port issues.

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Re: TPLF/Woyane's coziness with China & US interest in Djibouti are crossed with significant consequences

Post by gadaa2 » 09 Mar 2018, 14:01

We live in 21 century, horn of Africa is even smaller if economic and peace development is coming to the mind of stubborn people currently ruling the region. Eritrean are our people minus the psychopath Isayas. Somali are our people minus the psychopath leaders crying about greater bl bla. I donot know what their greater happen to do, probably grazing camel. The people need economic development education and science to live as a human being. I am surprise the idea of some idiot expansionist wishing another dictators after dictators. I say no to them. The hell with u. The horn of African people are tired of poverty, ignorance, luck of rule of law. They need peace, development and dialogue of cooling ethnic conflict down. The Tigray TPLF people ruled for the last 27 years with all tricks, evil 666, just go and look what Tigray looks like, it is as poor as any region in Ethiopia. Such kind of mentality need to stop with TPLF.
Yes an integrated of horn of Africa based on mutual economic, peace and rule of law development is the only way forward. Ethiopia need to accept this and lead with principle for fulture development. We are tired of hunger and ignorance.

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Re: TPLF/Woyane's coziness with China & US interest in Djibouti are crossed with significant consequences

Post by Khysion » 09 Mar 2018, 14:46

gadaa2: Listen, Galla, what is wrong with Somalis wanting to unite and form their own independent nation? Anyone against that is an enemy who must be destroyed. Camel grazing? Are you trying to be funny? Most Somalis aren't nomads but we take pride in our rich nomadic culture which made us the most powerful African tribe and establish powerful civilizations. We are talking about Somali-lands here that is exclusively inhabited by native Somalis.

The only way the Horn will progress is for Greater Somalia to come forth which will not only change the Horn but the whole African continent. Remember, Africa is a Rhino and the Somali peninsula is the Horn who is in the lead. Do you understand?

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