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Re: Secretive lives for [deleted] in conservative Ethiopia

Postby Ghirmawi » 19 May 2009, 04:41


"This is something very strange in Ethiopia, the land of the Bible that condemns this very strongly," said Abune Paolos, the patriarch of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church, the nation's largest religious denomination.

"For people to act in this manner they have to be dumb, stupid like animals," he said. "We strongly condemn this behaviour. They have to be disciplined and their acts discriminated, they have to be given a lesson."


How can a religous leader advocate for punishment? Didn't Jesus said “Do not judge, or you too will be judged” (Matthew 7:1). But even if homesexuality is an act of an "evil", Jesus also said “But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” Matthew 5:39.
This priest wannabe undercover Weyane stoog is nothing but an ignornat politician with no religous credentials what so ever to become the head of one of the oldest religions of the great nation of Ethiopia.



Re: Secretive lives for [deleted] in conservative Ethiopia

Postby Obamajr. » 19 May 2009, 04:54


Ghirmawi wrote:
"This is something very strange in Ethiopia, the land of the Bible that condemns this very strongly," said Abune Paolos, the patriarch of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church, the nation's largest religious denomination.

"For people to act in this manner they have to be dumb, stupid like animals," he said. "We strongly condemn this behaviour. They have to be disciplined and their acts discriminated, they have to be given a lesson."


How can a religous leader advocate for punishment? Didn't Jesus said “Do not judge, or you too will be judged” (Matthew 7:1). But even if homesexuality is an act of an "evil", Jesus also said “But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also” Matthew 5:39.
This priest wannabe undercover Weyane stoog is nothing but an ignornat politician with no religous credentials what so ever to become the head of one of the oldest religions of the great nation of Ethiopia.

Grimawi,
I am not a religious person but I am wondering, did Jesus said any thing in his life time about [deleted] and [deleted] people in general? I am just hungry for truth. thanks



Re: Secretive lives for [deleted] in conservative Ethiopia

Postby Ghirmawi » 19 May 2009, 05:58


Grimawi,
I am not a religious person but I am wondering, did Jesus said any thing in his life time about [deleted] and [deleted] people in general? I am just hungry for truth. thanks


Obama,
There are some verses in the Bible which condemn [deleted] in general. For instance, in Leviticus 18:22 it is stated that: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Similarly Romans 1:26-27 states : "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet“, while in Jude 1:7 you find: "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

Nonetheless, Jesus said nothing specifically. He did, however, have much to say about issues of the heart, and about morality (depending how you define that). The closest thing ever Jesus said regarding the issue of guy people can be found in St. Luke in chapter 17 verse 34 where he said “"I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left." Again, this can be interpreted in various ways.
But what is imperative here is that Jesus did not condemn sinners at all, for he said "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God sent the Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him. He who believes in him is not condemned; he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." (John 3:16-19).



Re: Secretive lives for [deleted] in conservative Ethiopia

Postby Hawi » 19 May 2009, 06:51


For once in his life time...Tegadalay Paulos is right on the spot in reference to the statement he made about [deleted].

Those morally corrupted so called NGO are not only corrupting the tradition and the social fabric of the people but also the basic moral value and culture of the country.



Re: Secretive lives for [deleted] in conservative Ethiopia

Postby Ghirmawi » 19 May 2009, 07:37


For once in his life time...Tegadalay Paulos is right on the spot in reference to the statement he made about [deleted].


Hawi, it seems to me that you are confusing consensual [deleted] with rape. There is nothing wrong with [deleted] practice between consenting adults. And I think Tegadalay Paulos, as you put it, is not referring to the NGO stuff, but rather to innocent individuals whose sexual orientation happen to differ from what we call “normal”. I believe you know much better than me that Weyane stooges like Tegadalay Paulos have no guts to even criticize NGOs let alone advocating for their punishment. If that was the case, why did Paulos fail to say anything about the practice of excessive preaching by Jesus messengers wanna be white men who are constantly abusing harmless kids in the name of religion in rural Ethiopia?



Re: Secretive lives for [deleted] in conservative Ethiopia

Postby Obamajr. » 20 May 2009, 05:50


Ghirmawi,
please take your time and read the following link and tell me what you think? Thanks
http://www.y-jesus.com/jesuscomplex_3.php



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